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Old 07-24-2010, 01:47 AM   #1
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The Dark Knight Rises

There's no thread on it, right? Let's do this.

Anyways, release date is July 20, 2012. Filming is supposed to begin next April.

Anyways, what spurred me to make the thread now is this article, in which Joseph Gordon-Levitt is rumoured as the Riddler.

Yes, it's just a rumour, but I am utterly in love with that casting.

Anyways, begin wild speculation.............now.


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Old 07-24-2010, 02:54 AM   #2
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I hope that casting happens

doubt it though
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Old 07-24-2010, 04:24 AM   #3
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Carrie Anne Moss as Selina Kyle please.
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Old 07-24-2010, 05:26 AM   #4
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I'm interested in seeing how they portray The Riddler in this new film. He's very similar to The Joker, especially as cerebral as The Joker was in the last movie, so writing him as an original character could be tricky. However, he does have the potential to be a very intelligent character and is probably the perfect villian to have in these Chrisopher Nolan films. They probably should ditch the green jumpsuit though. A green suit with question marks all over it would be acceptable.
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Old 07-24-2010, 05:55 AM   #5
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I also read that The Joker isn't going to be in this one at all, which I think would be the right thing to do even if Heath Ledger was still alive. His story was already told well. Any "closure" would feel forced.
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Old 07-24-2010, 06:19 AM   #6
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A simple line about Joker inspiring a new generation of crazies (just as Batman did in a way) would be closure enough. Joker left his mark on Gotham.
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Old 07-24-2010, 06:36 PM   #7
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If this is going to be Nolan's last one. Let's go all Arkham Asylum on us please.

Oh and David Tennant for the Riddler would be lovely
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Old 07-24-2010, 06:43 PM   #8
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Know that this was supposedly a closed case but bring back Harvey Dent!
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Old 07-24-2010, 08:12 PM   #9
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I would accept only one person if they ever did The Joker again and that person is Johnny Depp.

Having said that, I dont see it happening and its said nto to happen.

Please for the love of christ, dont cast a Robin or Batgirl.
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Old 07-24-2010, 08:23 PM   #10
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Robin I could fathom but where the Hell would a Batgirl come from?
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Old 07-24-2010, 08:26 PM   #11
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I hope they bring in a Robin for two more Batman movies. Of course, in the second movie with Robin they need to recast the Joker for him to kill off Jason Todd.
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I was walking around the underground tunnels in Chicago where the Joker demolition derby takes place today.
Was just walking somwhere and crossed through it and instantly recognized it, so we hung around for a bit. Twas awesome.

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Old 07-24-2010, 08:32 PM   #13
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Riddler for sure though. I would bet just about anything on Catwoman, or at least Selina Kyle being in it. I feel even more sure about that than the Riddler.
Mainly because Rachel died in TDK and there's no way they will make the movie without a female lead/love interest. Even though Nolan makes them brilliantly, they're still blockbusters. Selina Kyle/Catwoman is the obvious choice to fill that slot
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Old 07-24-2010, 09:35 PM   #14
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Barbara Gordon isn't possible, but Cassandra Cain could be. (They won't though)
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I'd like for Hush to be the villain

just a big fan of Hush
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Old 07-25-2010, 06:41 AM   #16
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I dunno, there really wasn't much room in Bruce's childhood flashbacks in Begins to incorporate Thomas Elliot, and since an integral part of Hush's backstory was that he and Bruce were childhood friends, it kind of robs Hush of most of his character. Plus I can't imagine the studio going with a lesser-known villain like that to follow up the Joker.

Maybe if they did like in the original Hush graphic novel, where it looked like he was behind it all but in fact Riddler was pulling the strings.
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Old 07-25-2010, 07:39 AM   #17
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I'm interested in seeing how they portray The Riddler in this new film. He's very similar to The Joker, especially as cerebral as The Joker was in the last movie, so writing him as an original character could be tricky. However, he does have the potential to be a very intelligent character and is probably the perfect villian to have in these Chrisopher Nolan films. They probably should ditch the green jumpsuit though. A green suit with question marks all over it would be acceptable.
jumpsuit hasn't been riddler's main costume since the late 80s. he mostly wears a dark green suit now, but i am a big fan of his depiction in alex ross' justice:



it's basically his green suit costume with a dark green trench over it, lookin' badass. it would work perfectly in the nolan-verse. plus, they paint him as an obsessive-compulsive who can't help but leave clues for batman about his crimes because of an underlying trauma from his childhood when his father used to beat him for lying. so even though he's this brilliant criminal mind, he's compelled to tell the truth about his actions to appease the demonic torment of his father's influence.

so yeah, riddler and joker can be construed as very similar characters, especially in their surface-level depictions with all their jokes and riddles; but once you move past that into the meat of the character they're actually considerably different both in method and madness.

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I hope they bring in a Robin for two more Batman movies. Of course, in the second movie with Robin they need to recast the Joker for him to kill off Jason Todd.
so what, we're covering the whole story of dick grayson becoming robin, growing dissatisfied with his treatment by batman, leaving and becoming nightwing, bruce then finding and training jason to become the second robin in time for him to already be robin in your hypothetical second film here so we can kill him off?

lame. don't write films.
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I know that Nolan intentionally left the narrows out of The Dark Knight because they were left in total chaos.
I wouldn't mind, or be suprised, to see that revisited and incorporated into the main conflict somehow
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I'm not really big on The Riddler.
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Old 07-25-2010, 06:09 PM   #20
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I heard Johnny Depp was being The Joker :S
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As long as they dont put nipples on his suit again. I think I could watch any of them.
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I would like to see the riddler in the role of a rival vigilante detective, like he recently was in the comics. Ending of dark knight actually sets that scenario up perfectly.
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yea, love Riddler.

I would only want to see the Joker in one scene in the movie if he's going to be in it. Just a couple lines to Batman while he's in his cell.
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If they did a movie very similar to "Under The Red Hood" it would be amazing.
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Old 07-28-2010, 06:43 AM   #25
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If they did a movie very similar to "Under The Red Hood" it would be amazing.
I kinda envisioned Joker as a Hannibal Lecter type that Batman would have to go to in order to understand The Riddler. I once mentioned the idea of having Depp play both. You could shoot Joker from behind in his cell. I think it would have an incredible duality to it.
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I don't really get why so many people are mentioning Johnny Depp.
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Old 07-28-2010, 07:25 AM   #27
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Old 07-28-2010, 07:39 AM   #28
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Old 07-28-2010, 07:39 AM   #29
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Nah, he really is a great actor.
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Yeah there's no denying his acting talent but I really wouldn't want to see him in these Batman films.
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That's where you and a few of us differ, I guess.
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Old 07-28-2010, 08:56 AM   #33
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Hope they just go with one antagonist. It's the last film Nolan said he would do, dunno if it would be a good idea to introduce two key characters in the last, seems like it would turn into a big mess having to explain the beginning, middle and end of more than one new character in one last film.
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Each of the movies had multiple villains.
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Joker appearing a la Hannibal Lecter was an idea I wanted before Ledger had died. Now that he's dead, I think the character should be retired in this trilogy or series.
Re-casting him is piss poor in concept, regardless of how talented or fitting the actor chosen is. I just don't think it's worth it.
I think there were still avenues to explore with him, but his story was wrapped up pretty well and there are no loose ends so there's no need to mess with something that just about everyone agrees was magic.
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Nolan has said the Joker will not make an appearance
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Joker appearing a la Hannibal Lecter was an idea I wanted before Ledger had died. Now that he's dead, I think the character should be retired in this trilogy or series.
Re-casting him is piss poor in concept, regardless of how talented or fitting the actor chosen is. I just don't think it's worth it.
I think there were still avenues to explore with him, but his story was wrapped up pretty well and there are no loose ends so there's no need to mess with something that just about everyone agrees was magic.
Completely agree, sad though since he is Batmans best known enemy.

In response to what was previously stated "Why Johnny Depp?"

Edward Scissorhands, Morten Rainey, Jack Sparrow, The Mad Hatter

Those characters seem real when Johnny did them, to the extent that you are watching these characters and not Johnny Depp portraying them. He distances himself from being Johnny Depp and becomes the character in the movie and I cant name a single actor that can do that as well as he can.
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^ He also played Hunter Thompson/Raoul Duke really well.
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