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Old 09-23-2010, 05:15 PM   #6521
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Old 09-23-2010, 05:27 PM   #6522
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Old 09-23-2010, 05:28 PM   #6523
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Old 09-23-2010, 05:33 PM   #6524
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Nothing has really been said about getting rid of NXT just yet but this all Diva show might have given it the death blow. I haven't watched but between all the talk on here and all the reviews on the internet. Things aren't looking good. I mean the only time I thought about watching it was when they had the Huge bitch.
 
Old 09-23-2010, 05:35 PM   #6525
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Old 09-23-2010, 05:36 PM   #6526
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I don't think NXT is ending tbh. I think somebody genuinely thought an All-Divas NXT was a good idea, but once Aloisia got pulled they realized it wouldn't really work. The first show was also slightly more "serious" than Weeks 2 and 3 were. After the first week, they decided to make it a joke because it would never be credible.

Word is it's going to be a WWE.com exclusive. They wouldn't bother doing that if they didn't want to keep the show going for the future.
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Old 09-23-2010, 05:42 PM   #6527
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I think it's too much pumping in a new NXT rookie every few months, not to mention all of the others who don't win that get on the roster.

They should do NXT as a season, once a year. Maybe then they will have an easier time finding a channel to carry it too.
If it ran as a summer series it would probably have a home, rather than being year round.

It's just a bit of a stretch. Wade Barret hasn't even used his title shot yet and we're on Season 3.

Plus you can only go so long with the quality of Barret, Danielson and Kaval.
Eventually they'll reach the bottom of the barrel.
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Old 09-23-2010, 05:44 PM   #6528
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So yea, like CSL said. The old fashioned way.

I'd rather see guys who are ready brought up through individual means, like Alberto Del Rio and Sheamus.

NXT having one winner a year would also make it mean way more.
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Old 09-23-2010, 05:51 PM   #6529
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I think it's too much pumping in a new NXT rookie every few months, not to mention all of the others who don't win that get on the roster.

They should do NXT as a season, once a year. Maybe then they will have an easier time finding a channel to carry it too.
If it ran as a summer series it would probably have a home, rather than being year round.

It's just a bit of a stretch. Wade Barret hasn't even used his title shot yet and we're on Season 3.

Plus you can only go so long with the quality of Barret, Danielson and Kaval.
Eventually they'll reach the bottom of the barrel.
That has been a big problem with the WWE ever since they started with Tough Enough in the fact they just hire the majority of people or they rush through multiple seasons instead of spacing them out.

It makes the whole idea of making it a contest or the goal of 1 person gets a dream job in the WWE a bit moot if everyone else gets hired.
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WWE never sticks to their guns on stuff like that, and it really defeats gimmicks. They also just run things into the ground.
I really think NXT was gold when it started but 3+ "seasons" a year is ridiculous. Seems like they can never discipline themselves to do things in moderation and preserve for the better in the long run.
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Old 09-23-2010, 06:01 PM   #6531
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Somehow I see this as not being too great of news. When WWE was focusing on RAW and forgetting about Smackdown, the writers for Smackdown realized the show needed to be wrestling-focused and less on skits or main event feuds.

They also realized the need to push more people since Smackdown was always going to lack amount of big name wrestlers in both quality and numbers.

Smackdown ended up developing really well into the wrestling-focused brand while also developing and pushing a lot more wrestlers in the mid-card and main event than RAW focusing just on a few wrestlers in the main event.
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Old 09-23-2010, 06:03 PM   #6532
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I think it is high time WWE should resurrect the Cruiserweight division and its championship from the ashes, like a phoenix. Raise the weight limit to 235 lbs. (the original Junior Heavyweight weight limit), and you'll have a credible division that will thrive and excite the masses.

Look back at the past champions like Brian Pillman, Jushin Thunder Liger, Scotty Flamingo, Brad Armstrong, Shinjiro Otani, Dean Malenko, Rey Mysterio, Chris Jericho, Eddie Guerrero, Ultimo Dragon, Juventud Guerrera...I can name all the titleholders between 1991 and 2008 (except Hornswoggle), they made the Cruiserweight division mean a lot and can be a mix of various wrestling styles, so it cannot be stereotyped to being listed as one style.
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Old 09-23-2010, 06:06 PM   #6533
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Think Mysterio is being utilized just fine with or without the Cruiserweight division. He was World Champion a couple months ago.
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Old 09-23-2010, 06:17 PM   #6534
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I think you guys are missing the fact that Colin Delaney has his own wrestling action figure
Apparently WWE wanted to cancel it before it went to stores, but since Jakks had to create a special "no muscles" body mould just to make Colin's figure they would have lost a shit ton of money.
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Old 09-23-2010, 06:24 PM   #6536
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Old 09-23-2010, 06:31 PM   #6537
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The WWE are not capable of having a Cruiserweight Division and treating the guys in it as anything other than jobbers. It's sad, but Evan Bourne is going to be treated much better outside of being officially labelled a "small guy."
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Old 09-23-2010, 06:31 PM   #6538
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Old 09-23-2010, 06:37 PM   #6539
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Apparently WWE wanted to cancel it before it went to stores, but since Jakks had to create a special "no muscles" body mould just to make Colin's figure they would have lost a shit ton of money.
I seriously doubt they made it up in sales. Who wants a Colin Delaney figure?
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Old 09-23-2010, 06:37 PM   #6540
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The problem with creating a cruiserweight division is a lot of more talented guys, especially Mysterio, will view it as being relegated to midcard hell.
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Old 09-23-2010, 06:38 PM   #6541
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Old 09-23-2010, 06:48 PM   #6542
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I seriously doubt they made it up in sales. Who wants a Colin Delaney figure?
Yeah theres no way they would have, but they would have lost even more money if they hadn't sold any to hardcore collectors or Colin Delaney.
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Old 09-23-2010, 06:59 PM   #6543
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Old 09-23-2010, 07:04 PM   #6544
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Given viewing figures for NXT and ECW (and even SmackDown! to some degree) I don't see there being much difference. Whilst some of us on here appreciated Jack Swagger (for example) on ECW and knew who he was, I guarantee there were was a much higher % of people that had no idea who he was the first time he popped up on Raw.
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Old 09-23-2010, 07:30 PM   #6549
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They always "push" a brand when they move networks by packing it with "Big Name" talent (wasn't that the original reason HHH moved to SD! with the move rto MyNetwork?) pretty sure they will lose interest after a couple months.
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I think it's too much pumping in a new NXT rookie every few months, not to mention all of the others who don't win that get on the roster.
I think Season One was really just an exception because they decided to do the Nexus storyline...and even then I could see several of them going right back to FCW if this angle ends. From Season Two you only have Kaval and Riley on the main roster. I don't really see anybody else from Season Two being up anytime soon.

Granted, they MAY have been planning on doing a Nexus-type stable with them, but their beatdown during the Season Two finale was so horrible that the plans were squashed. I honestly think McGillicutty might be on one of the main rosters right now if he hadn't cut one of the worst promos of all time.

From Season Three, most of the girls aren't ready so I doubt many of them are brought right up. And the ones that DO get the call will likely just wind up being valets for now except for AJ.

If each NXT season gets 2-3 new additions to the main roster while the ones that are clearly not ready go back to FCW, I have no problem with it.
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I also don't think there's enough FCW guys to keep doing NXT seasons. Eventually, they'll have to have people being on multiple NXT seasons.
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Love that every time they switch networks they have to have a meeting to say "Hey guys we're gonna try to make the show good now."
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Love that every time they switch networks they have to have a meeting to say "Hey guys we're gonna try to make the show good now."
And we end up with HHH vs. Great Khali for the WWE title at Summer Slam.
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Love that every time they switch networks they have to have a meeting to say "Hey guys we're gonna try to make the show good now."
Which is kind of funny because when they don't put their "better" writers' focus on SmackDown!, it tends to be worse off, as RatedG alluded to.

Honestly, it doesn't matter what netowrk SD! is on, I've always felt it's been the better show. Every now and then, Raw will do something great like the Orton/HHH build, or the rise of the Miz. But SmackDown! is the truley better wrestling show.
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Who the fuck is Adam Evans?
Some no name schmuck, who, if I'm not mistaken, the originator of this thread comapred to Randy Orton at one point.
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Think Mysterio is being utilized just fine with or without the Cruiserweight division. He was World Champion a couple months ago.
You call watching Mysterio face guys double his size, on roids, utilized just fine?

You musn't have watched Mysterio in his days in WCW.

I'm talking about real wrestling, or as real as you can get in the ENTERTAINMENT business.

Wrestlers who are dramatically mismatched produce an uneven match up and an even worse amount of manuevers (with exception for people who can't wrestle at all, like Cena/ Big Show/ Kane/ Undertaker/ Khali/ etc...


And I disagree that you'd be minimizing their talent by putting them in such a division.

You give them a title, and a lot of hype, but not just on Smackdown, but on Raw too.

I'm tired of seeing RAW set up with a promo for the main event, a womens bout, and then the main event. What happened to the juice?

I'm talking about some solid match ups, youtube Kidman/ Eddie/ Chavo/ Rey in the WCW days and you'll see what I'm getting at.

If you want to build young, smaller guys, or even current stars like Rey, then put them in a spot where they can shine, not where it looks like a shoot and fake.

Max the wrestler to his potential, in his division. Look at Gregory Helms, Matt Hardy, Jeff Hardy, Charlie Haas, Shelton Benjamin, Rob Van Dam...

Although I'm an avid fan of these guys, I don't see them as World Champions, but as Crusierweight champs. I see them as the guys who run through the crowd, or jump off buildings for the people. I see them as flexible and capable of ACTUALLY WRESTLING.

Maybe that's part of the reason why they are gone, they are smaller mid card but with big fan bases, and they got stuck on Smackdown or ECW with no real push because WWE doesn't care about their size. TNA (WCW) is more prone to use guys like them.

If you're stuck on a show with Vickie Guerrero, YOU'RE BEING UNDERUTILIZED.

Leave the Main Event for people like Orton, Sheamus, Miz, etc..
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