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Old 11-25-2014, 03:47 PM   #121
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Really no one better for Sting to face than HHH on the current roster
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Old 11-25-2014, 03:51 PM   #122
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there really isn't, especially not 50+ in his first WWE/potentially last ever match on their biggest show of the year Sting.
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Old 11-25-2014, 04:31 PM   #123
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I agree that he's the best option. That's just kind of sad, is all.
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Old 11-25-2014, 04:53 PM   #124
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It's not that sad. Like I said, I agree that he's not on the level of Rock/Austin/Hogan (No one in their right mind would argue that). He's not THAT big of a deal. But I think you also underrate how big of a deal he is. While he wasn't on the level of those guys, he was a guy who was always in the thick of things while Sting was the man in WCW and he's stayed very relevant in WWE for the decade plus since. Not only is he the most perpetually over full time guy not named John Cena right now but there's also some subtle history they can play off of. He was the guy who sat in the front of the tank and drove to the arena Nitro was being held at to "fire the first shot" in the war between WWF and WCW. While he may not represent the attitude era against the face of WCW like Rock or Austin, it's not like he's a complete default option. If they want that WCW vs WWF nostalgia match, this works really well.
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Old 11-25-2014, 05:22 PM   #125
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I don't see how it's sad at all but to each their own. I'd put him in or very close to the top 5 guys that would have made a good opponent for Sting's first WWE match at any point over the last 15 years.
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Old 11-26-2014, 03:52 PM   #126
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People talk about Rock's mic work, Stone Cold's charisma etc... but tbh Triple H is 8/10 in every single aspect of the business. He doesn't have a weakness really and was THE heel to the very biggest stars in the 2000's.

The only top, top face of that era who has not had to encounter Triple H....is Sting. If they tell that story and do their, as always, incredible video packages, I think this will become a must see match. It's like the two last cowboys standing, ready to duel it out. Show Austin, Rock, Undertaker, Micheals etc.. all walking out after their last match/ Highlights from Triple H's biggest wins in WWE and Sting's in WCW. Could be epic.

Also, people do complain about Triple H not putting over certain guys, but don't honestly believe people like Booker could have been the guy, and RVD went on to show that he couldn't be relied upon anyway.
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Old 11-26-2014, 04:12 PM   #127
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I don't understand how you can make "he's isn't as good as the 4-5 other greatest superstars of all time" an insult. Being the 6th greatest of all time is still really really fucking good. As others have said, he is great at everything just not the greatest in any area. I would argue that only Ric Flair performed at as high of a level for such long period of time as Triple H.

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Old 11-26-2014, 04:32 PM   #128
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They push HHH as THE GUY from the Attitude Era because he is the only one they have.

They don't have Taker, they don't have Rock, they don't have Austin. They don't even have Foley. Kane, Show, Henry, Christian were never top guys and have been so mishandled over the last decade.

They go with HHH through lack of option.
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Old 11-26-2014, 04:38 PM   #129
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I don't understand how you can make "he's isn't as good as the 4-5 other greatest superstars of all time" an insult. Being the 6th greatest of all time is still really really fucking good. As others have said, he is great at everything just not the greatest in any area. I would argue that only Ric Flair performed at as high of a level for such long period of time as Triple H.
things Triple H could be considered/nominated for as greatest in the industry at:

greatest hairline
greatest punch
greatest usage of water
greatest usage of Motorhead
greatest flipbump for a 250lb+ guy
greatest "oh shit" facial
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Old 11-26-2014, 04:39 PM   #130
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actually fuck that, it's arguable in a roundabout way that Triple H has had the most successful career of any professional wrestler in the history of the business
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Old 11-26-2014, 04:42 PM   #131
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They push HHH as THE GUY from the Attitude Era because he is the only one they have.

They don't have Taker, they don't have Rock, they don't have Austin. They don't even have Foley. Kane, Show, Henry, Christian were never top guys and have been so mishandled over the last decade.

They go with HHH through lack of option.
When have they ever pushed him as THE FACE of the attitude era. They acknowledge his role and the role/popularity of DX during the Attitude Era, but they have never claimed be was on the level of Stone Cold or The Rock. People like to undervalue the importance of DX in the attitude era just because of the blind disdain of Paul Levesque and the seemingly die hard obsession to undermine his legacy at any cost. HHH as a heel kept WWE at an EXTRMELY high level when Austin was out. Babyfaces aren't as over and don't draw as well without a heel to go against and nobody was a better heel over the past 20 years than Triple H. Would Rock vs Heel Big Show have been as good or as sustainable as HHH/Rock? What other heel in WWF at that point was there that could have carried their half of the feud with The Rock and look like a legitimate equal?
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Old 11-26-2014, 05:17 PM   #132
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I think you've taken what I said as a knock on HHH, it wasn't intended that way.

The wrestling business is built on hyperbole, I've no issue with them over selling HHH. I'm basically excusing them.

Remember the whole "End Of An Era" deal with Taker? That's when they tried to sell HHH as THE GUY from the Attitude Era.
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Old 11-26-2014, 05:43 PM   #133
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things Triple H could be considered/nominated for as greatest in the industry at:

greatest hairline
greatest punch
greatest usage of water
greatest usage of Motorhead
greatest flipbump for a 250lb+ guy
greatest "oh shit" facial
Also the "God damnit!" face like @ 2:44 below

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Old 11-26-2014, 05:45 PM   #134
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I think you've taken what I said as a knock on HHH, it wasn't intended that way.

The wrestling business is built on hyperbole, I've no issue with them over selling HHH. I'm basically excusing them.

Remember the whole "End Of An Era" deal with Taker? That's when they tried to sell HHH as THE GUY from the Attitude Era.
No, they sd it as the last battle from the last 2 survivors of the "golden era"...hence "end of an era"
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Old 11-26-2014, 08:40 PM   #135
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I don't understand how you can make "he's isn't as good as the 4-5 other greatest superstars of all time" an insult. Being the 6th greatest of all time is still really really fucking good.
lol Well at least you only pushed it to 6th.
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Old 11-28-2014, 10:33 AM   #136
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why does every assume that Sing only has one more match left ? Seems to me he could go for the entire year at least.
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Really no one better for Sting to face than HHH on the current roster
i want kev nash to be involved telling trips not to get sting pissed off he poked the bear in wcw.
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Old 11-28-2014, 11:03 AM   #138
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why does every assume that Sing only has one more match left ? Seems to me he could go for the entire year at least.
Supposedly he has a Brock Lesnar-esque deal. He'll work limited dates and a few matches a year.

I would imagine his first official match is WM 31, where he can get a big win against Triple H. Then he'll wrestle at SummerSlam and a couple of other shows before wrapping up at WM 32. HOF induction by WM 33.
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Really limited dates I hope, the nostalgia factor will wear thin really quickly given he's past it in the ring now.
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Old 11-28-2014, 01:17 PM   #140
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His debut match will be at WM 31 that's for sure to fit in with the hype and build-up and he will almost likely get the win over Triple H.

After that as JR said in his blog, he should be used sparingly. Maybe a singles match at the odd PPV etc, or a tag match on RAW etc. As much as the Sting fans out there would have loved to see him wrestle week in week out, be in the hunt for the title, do the rumble, etc etc. the reality is he is 55 and absolutely no way could handle that. I think most have accepted that.

You want to be able to enjoy Sting's run in the WWE and his final run as an in-ring competitor for all the right reason, memorable matches, performances rather than watch decompose into a mess in the ring almost how Taker did at WM 30 despite being much younger than the Stinger.

The impression I get with this deal is that the ball is completely in Sting's court as to when he wants to wrestle and his involvement.
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Sting/Hogan WM32.
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