11-26-2015, 07:18 PM | #281 |
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My opinion Os that Barry hrowitz is better than the rock
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11-26-2015, 09:11 PM | #282 | |
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First Booker T isn't the right guy now Sting FREAKING STING isn't the right guy. |
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11-26-2015, 11:46 PM | #283 |
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11-26-2015, 11:47 PM | #284 |
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11-26-2015, 11:54 PM | #285 | |
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However, HHH has worked near or at the top of the card for call it 10+ Wrestlemanias, many of those were 60k+ fans in attendance. Sting headlined ONE PPV that did massive business, without looking I would say HHH probably was a key draw in 10+ PPVs that did way more than that, many doing in the million range. HHH headlined with Austin and Rock on house show runs. I dont know what those did in terms of dollars, but no way Sting had a better run than that. Business wise, I dont even think its close to be honest. |
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11-26-2015, 11:55 PM | #286 |
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11-26-2015, 11:57 PM | #287 | |
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11-27-2015, 12:21 AM | #288 |
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Do you have actual numbers to back up these claims? I'm not debating with whether or not they're true. Just curious if there's factual evidence to support this.
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11-27-2015, 12:24 AM | #289 |
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Overall career quality. I guess you've never considered that Sting EARNED the right to be called "The Icon".
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11-27-2015, 12:54 AM | #290 |
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I've said it before and I'll say it again It does not matter how many times Triple H has been champ and as bad as the WWE would love for us to think so no matter how many DVDs they put out proclaimng how great he is, HHH is NOT ON THE SAME LEVEL as Taker,Austin,Rock,HBK or Sting. there is a reason no one was clamoring to see Taker V Triple H at mania there is a reason People regarded Sting v Taker as a dream match.
I know it hurts but its true He's second banana at best 3rd tier support character at worst. |
11-27-2015, 01:14 AM | #291 | |
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11-27-2015, 01:21 AM | #292 | |
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Shit there's a video of a special needs child who requested to meet Taker. |
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11-27-2015, 08:50 AM | #293 | |
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11-27-2015, 08:52 AM | #294 | |
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11-27-2015, 12:02 PM | #295 | |
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Sting sold tickets on his name alone across quite a wide generation, people of all ages came to see Sting. I think that is the difference. In saying that, I wouldn't use him at all now because I feel his time has passed and totally agree with you on that point. Triple H drawing a lot more than Sting is dubious though. |
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11-27-2015, 12:28 PM | #296 | ||
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11-27-2015, 12:52 PM | #297 | |
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For myself I discovered I liked Piper as a kid I knew nothing of his previous work before showed up to challenge Hollywood hogan and by then Piper was no where near the worker he was. You really think kids have to have an extensive knowledge of a wrestlers body of work in order to like them? |
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11-27-2015, 01:16 PM | #298 |
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I have paid to see Triple H.
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11-27-2015, 03:10 PM | #299 |
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11-27-2015, 03:10 PM | #300 |
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There's a shocker
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11-27-2015, 03:13 PM | #301 | |
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People who were fans of Sting want to see him win because of his legacy, but when you factor in his age and how little he will work, I don't see who on the roster you put him against that would have a big match feel and be willing to put him over. Maybe a guy like Jericho as a one off, but putting him over multiple guys makes no sense to me. |
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11-27-2015, 03:17 PM | #302 | |
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Sting's real drawing period was the height of the NWO. So at best he would be sharing those numbers with them. And compared to Hunter's run on top, it was a short period of time. Figuring out a star's drawing ability is murky at best, but like I said, I just don't see it as being close. |
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11-27-2015, 04:40 PM | #303 | |
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11-27-2015, 04:44 PM | #304 | |
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I get it now. |
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11-27-2015, 08:45 PM | #305 |
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lol oh stuff it. Does Hunter really need it? He's the frigging COO of the company. Come on. Sting with a BIG win over HHH could put over a big talent. If Sting had beaten HHH and lost to Rollins, the win has about a bajillion times more meaning, as opposed to a win in a filler ppv nobody will remember.
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11-27-2015, 09:28 PM | #306 | |
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Also, inferiority complex can easily explain the XFL, WBF, WWE studios, etc. He is ashamed to be in the business, and tries to prove himself the head of a media empire. Also, inferiority complex can why he frames the Monday Night Wars as Vince vs. Turner, when in reality it was Vince vs. Bischoff. Turner didn't even have Vince on his radar. He couldn't see himself getting upstaged by Verne Gagne's coffee go-fer. Hell, look up the McMyth's podcast HB2K (iirc) posted that was filled with his delusions. |
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11-27-2015, 09:42 PM | #307 | |
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They had a larger story they were telling that was more important than Sting. That was HHH being the over achieving father figure to Rollins, who sets the bar really high. If you notice, Seth was starting to pass all the "tests". Then when he failed against Roman, you would have had HHH rip into Seth, and Seth would have stood up to HHH to prove he's the man. You cant play out that story if HHH loses to a 50 year old man who has no history in the company. |
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11-27-2015, 09:49 PM | #308 | |
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LOL. He's tried on multiple occasions to EXPAND his business to other forms of entertainment. Admittedly those were failures, but it doesn't mean he's ashamed of the sports entertainment indutry, hell, he invented it as we know it. If it wasnt Turner vs Vince, why did Turner call Vince to tell him he was in the "wrasslin" business? Saying it was Eric vs Vince is an insult to Vince, because Eric didnt own WCW. I dont know if you have ever owned a company, but when you are putting everything on the line, its different than some guy who is just drawing a paycheque. Now, on Ted's side, WCW was a small portion of his overall empire, whereas for Vince it was his everything. Which is probably why Vince ultimately won. Sorry, Mcmyths? I have no idea who that is, and I certainly have no idea what type of connection they have to Vince to know if they are just another parrot of the Dirt Sheets or actually have some useful information to share. |
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11-27-2015, 09:51 PM | #309 |
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11-27-2015, 10:07 PM | #311 | |
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McMyth#1) DX "invading" WCW some how was the apex of the Monday Night Wars. Watch it. Nothing happened. Nobody gave a shit. It was a silly crappy angle. And yet, they perpetuate this nonsense in every fucking video about DX. That's not dirtsheet reporting, that's just people using their brains. If you wish to be an actual contributor to this forum and not have people disparage you, maybe interact like less of a twat, and be smart like you're capable of being. For now, I am retiring from CyNick world because you talk at me, not to me. Wanted to give you the benefit of the doubt, but you're being too much of a knob. Keep in mind I remember your initial run on the forum where you were being a troll then too, just on exactly the opposite end with pretty much the polar opposite bullshit arguments which made no sense then. So pretty much, you're parodying yourself, and it's getting to the point of silliness. |
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11-27-2015, 10:08 PM | #312 |
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Its about damn time. The money is not in Sting/HHH if your just going to have Sting job. There is more money in jobbing Sting to Taker, Cena, or even Wyatt. HHH could have jobbed to Sting then had Rollins beat Sting to start that tension between the 2. The point is Vince has left money off the table with Sting and you can't deny that. I don't know if he does it on purpose or he has just lost touch but he has a trend of burying WCW guys. Before you spout off about WM20 think about when Eddie, Benoit, Jericho, and Big Show all jumped ship to WWF.
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11-27-2015, 10:09 PM | #313 |
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11-27-2015, 10:16 PM | #314 | |
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Or WM3 was the most heavily attended WWF event of all time. It was actually Summerslam '92 in Wembly. |
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11-27-2015, 10:17 PM | #315 |
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That is simply nonsense perpetuated by the dirtsheets.
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11-27-2015, 10:25 PM | #316 |
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Don't forget the mom and pop shop gimmick that was poached of talent by the evil Ted Turner, even though Vince was buying out territories and poaching talent while loading up for and supporting his new global vision of a wrestling company.
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11-27-2015, 10:26 PM | #317 |
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What are you talking about? That just sounds like more malarky put forth by that hack David Q. Meltzer.
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11-28-2015, 06:10 PM | #318 | |
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11-28-2015, 06:19 PM | #319 |
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I could be and have been wrong before, but I have often heard claims that WM3 attendance numbers were overinflated.
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11-28-2015, 08:55 PM | #320 | |
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