11-15-2015, 07:11 AM | #241 |
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I don't understand why they would turn Ambrose or Cesaro when they have momentum and are so over as fan favourites.
If they want to guarantee Reigns a prominent role, surely he is the one that has to turn, as he is the one they want on top the most, and is the one who has the most difficulty connectinh with the audience. They need all the natural fan favourites they can get at the moment! |
11-15-2015, 07:05 PM | #242 |
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11-15-2015, 08:37 PM | #243 |
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They should give Rollins more days as champion to match up with Survivor Series.
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11-15-2015, 09:20 PM | #244 |
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They should retroactively give whoever wins the tournament some of Rollins' days so we can pretend that horrible reign didn't last as long.
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11-15-2015, 09:25 PM | #245 |
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If it's Owens I'm okay with that. He's been the MVP. Rollins had been the MVP months before he was the champion though so you have to add him some of Brock's time for being an absentee champion.
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11-16-2015, 09:54 AM | #246 |
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The truth is, this tourney has the ability to be something much bigger than "wow this guy got far, a small push" with Roman ultimately winning, and turning heel.
Sadly, it'll probably be just that. Cesaro winning. Owens winning. Hell, anyone but Roman winning would be a nice swerve. But I doubt it. |
11-16-2015, 10:17 AM | #247 |
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If Roman turns heel, joins the authority and gives the shaft to Ambrose, it's instantly far more interesting than anything Roman's done post Shield.
It sets up an easy and new feud with Ambrose, which could lead to Ambrose v Hunter while Reigns goes into Mania as champion against whoever wins the Rumble, with my choice being Lesnar. Heel Roman gets the benefit of getting the Authority to do his talking and can cut heel promos, which may come more naturally for him. |
11-16-2015, 10:27 AM | #248 |
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I support Roman winning if he turns heel. Total zzz storyline if he wins and doesn't turn.
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11-16-2015, 06:40 PM | #249 |
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I'd like for it to happen, but I bet the WWE is too stubborn.
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11-16-2015, 07:23 PM | #250 | |
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A lot of people on here criticize WWE for planning things out long term, but when they do, it seems like people still crap on it. Roman was probably pushed too quickly heading into 31, but they pumped the brakes, and have allowed him to simmer for the past 6 months or so. He had a long program with Wyatt, and he came off real strong in the blowoff at HIAC. So to me, just speaking as a fan of the TV show, I feel like it's his time. I'm not trying to say Roman is the perfect guy to carry the company, but at the same time, he does have a lot of attributes you want in a world champion. He's unfortunately also lacking in one key one (talking), which may ultimately cripple him. But I still think its worth the chance to payoff this storyline. I also think there's a lot of business in having the Finals come down to Ambrose and Reigns, because it allows WWE to really sell how strong The Shield was. Very similar to Evolution in that all three guys in the group became/were World Champions. And even better for The Shield because they came in fresh and now have all reached great heights. Will be interested to see how they handle Rollins coming back. I think they have an opportunity to reunite The Shield if Triple H has a new gang of guys in The Authority. |
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11-16-2015, 07:26 PM | #251 |
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Simmering doesn't matter if they put Reigns back into the oven and turn it all the way up at Survivor Series.
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11-16-2015, 07:27 PM | #252 | |
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The problem is when they go on the road, he gets cheered like crazy. If I were WWE, and they had the plan to have a babyface Roman head into Mania, I would stick to that. Dont worry about the vocal minority in the audience. |
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11-16-2015, 07:27 PM | #253 |
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I feel like Roman was ready to get the title as well, and I would have had him beat Rollins. However, I am unsure now if that is the best move now... sucks for Reigns that he won't get that "rub" from beating Rollins.... now if he does win it via the tournament it will feel a bit "anti-climactic" for his journey...
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11-16-2015, 07:28 PM | #254 |
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11-16-2015, 07:30 PM | #255 |
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I would suggest that a Reigns babyface run at top would be a turkey, yes.
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11-16-2015, 07:31 PM | #256 | |
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11-16-2015, 07:32 PM | #257 |
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The problem isn't with Reigns -- it's with his presentation and him being jammed down the audience's throat. It doesn't matter that the heat is dying down and that they didn't put the title on him at WrestleMania -- if you put the belt on him now, all that negativity just pops right back up.
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11-16-2015, 07:32 PM | #258 |
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11-16-2015, 07:33 PM | #259 |
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The BEST reaction you are going to get for him is general apathy and a few girls/children popping.
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11-16-2015, 07:34 PM | #260 |
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What does Reigns have that no one else in the WWE has that warrants him getting the belt right now? There's not really one thing.
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11-16-2015, 07:39 PM | #261 |
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11-16-2015, 08:51 PM | #262 |
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11-17-2015, 02:26 AM | #263 |
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"A lot of people criticize WWE for not thinking long term but if they have a shitty idea and then wait 7 months to go through with that same shitty idea without taking any real steps creatively toward making the idea better, that's long term planning, right!?"
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11-17-2015, 02:42 AM | #264 |
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I mean, he came out of a feud with Bray Wyatt looking strong! Which NO ONE does! SUPER impressive! IT'S TIME, GUYS!
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11-17-2015, 03:45 AM | #265 |
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Rollins was all I was enjoying so sucks.
I hope Ambrose takes it. |
11-17-2015, 09:33 AM | #266 |
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11-17-2015, 09:35 AM | #267 | |
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11-17-2015, 12:25 PM | #268 |
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Jeeeeeeeesus...
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11-17-2015, 12:38 PM | #269 |
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You are just proving his point that EVERYONE comes out of a Wyatt feud looking strong. Sarcasm, flat words on a screen, titties, etc.
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11-17-2015, 12:55 PM | #270 | |
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11-17-2015, 01:17 PM | #271 |
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I know this is too much to ask for, but a finish that doesn't centre TV around The Authority for the next year would be welcome. Very welcome, in fact.
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11-17-2015, 01:43 PM | #272 |
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So Cena, Taker, and now Reigns. You guys are right, there's no reason anyone should be taking Reigns seriously when he's in the company of guys like that. And what a jobber Wyatt had turned into. Imagine losing to the face of the franchise, the guy who has been on top for 25 years and the up and coming top babyface. Burrrrrrried. Amirite?
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11-17-2015, 01:46 PM | #273 | |
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11-17-2015, 03:21 PM | #274 |
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Disagree, only having 5 or 6 moves is weak in my opinion. Especially the moves Reigns uses. He's a big guy that hardly ever uses power moves. I mean beating Big Show with a spear is dumb. He needs to open up his move set but he won't because WWE isn't wrestling so he just needs moves that will make people say wow until they get sick of seeing the same shot over and over. I understand how you love the product so much because its the only wrestling you watch and you don't know anything else.
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11-17-2015, 03:55 PM | #275 |
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I only watch the NFL, I don't watch the CFL or the AFL or any other small time organization. Same applies to my sports entertainment. What would I get from watching another product? How to be less successful?
Regardless, I've been watching this game long enough to know a top guy, especially a babyface really just needs a handful of moves. You just need to know when to use them in the context of a match to hype the crowd. Look at most of the all time greats, when they hit it big they stuck to a handful of moves. If you don't believe me, ask Austin. I'm not saying Reigns couldn't benefit from a couple extra moves, but it's not critical. And he will develop more moves as he starts having longer matches on a more consistent basis and needs that series of moves when he's making a comeback. |
11-17-2015, 04:08 PM | #276 |
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Can't wait until Reign pulls out the spring board stunner.
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11-17-2015, 04:16 PM | #277 |
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11-17-2015, 04:18 PM | #278 |
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I didn't suggest you to watch another product was just pointing out that you enjoy the WWE product so much because its the only source of the wrestling you watch. Your not a wresting fan your a sports entertainment fan. A WWE sheep as you would say.
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11-17-2015, 04:27 PM | #279 |
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Were talking about sports entertainment though. Does anyone still do wrestling these days?
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11-17-2015, 04:36 PM | #280 |
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Why do people always talk about the number of moves a guy has as his detractor. I bet the same people who put down Cena or Reigns for his low number of moves, love Ric Flair and Chris Benoit whose matches were 95% knife edge chops.
You can just say you don't enjoy them. Suggesting they don't do enough moves seems stupid. |