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Old 05-27-2016, 08:12 PM   #121
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Given how great Cena was during the US Title invitational and how he started to grow on the smarks I think they could make Smackdown the "wrestling" brand like it was back in the day and still have Cena as "the man". Cena on the same roster as all the workrate guys is just five star match after five star match waiting to happen.
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Old 05-27-2016, 08:27 PM   #122
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I might actually watch Smackdown instead of copying and pasting spoilers (not counting going to smackdown in a week and a half)
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Haven't watched Smackdown since they moved to USA. Think the channel change messed with the DVR and it doesn't record any more.
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Old 05-27-2016, 08:53 PM   #124
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Smackdown! just needs to feature Owen White and they will succeed.
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Old 05-27-2016, 11:13 PM   #125
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I might actually watch Smackdown instead of copying and pasting spoilers (not counting going to smackdown in a week and a half)
exactly... live smackdown can only help it as a brand that isn't looked down upon as 2nd tier.

I read spoilers and then I don't need to watch.... well i don't really watch that often now... but yeah live is definitely a HUGE positive
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Old 05-27-2016, 11:16 PM   #126
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exactly... live smackdown can only help it as a brand that isn't looked down upon as 2nd tier.

I read spoilers and then I don't need to watch.... well i don't really watch that often now... but yeah live is definitely a HUGE positive
And yet none of that will matter when the biggest stars like Rock, Lesnar, Taker only show up and have feuds on Raw. Raw is treated as the flagship show now, it has been treated as the flagship show for the last 14+ years and it will continue to be treated as such because the same folks are still going to be in charge. Maybe not right away, but left with the same folks in charge now, it's only a matter of time.
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i just mean it helps... doesn't turn it around overnight, but it does improve it immensely
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Old 05-28-2016, 11:57 AM   #129
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And yet none of that will matter when the biggest stars like Rock, Lesnar, Taker only show up and have feuds on Raw. Raw is treated as the flagship show now, it has been treated as the flagship show for the last 14+ years and it will continue to be treated as such because the same folks are still going to be in charge. Maybe not right away, but left with the same folks in charge now, it's only a matter of time.
The live aspect could help with that though. A Taker return on a Tuesday will be live and not spoiled on the net.
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WWE is planning to have dual-brand episodes of RAW just for the two big PPVs of the year. The dual-branded Monday shows will be for the night after SummerSlam and the night after WrestleMania.

WWE plans to have double announce teams at PPVs, with the RAW and SmackDown announcers calling their own brand’s matches similar to how it worked during the original brand extension.
Wouldn't it make more sense to have both shows be dual branded before big PPVs. That's just going to make Raw feel like the superior show.
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Old 05-28-2016, 06:44 PM   #131
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PWTorch had some new details regarding plans for the Brand Split with the biggest being Kevin Owens as a possible top heel for one of the brands.

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Del Rio wants a heel push, but the big obstacle there is Triple H who holds the firing/rehiring against him.

AJ Styles has really impressed Vince and Triple H.

At the moment, the word internally is that Vince and Dunn will play a heavy role in Smackdown - USA want Dunn there running a show close to the one that's currently working. Ward's input is valued, but his big involvement will come from his familiarity with the brand's NXT talent.
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Old 05-28-2016, 09:50 PM   #132
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John Cena & Cesaro as buddies that have no problem scrapping with one another is goodness waiting to happen.
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Old 05-28-2016, 10:37 PM   #133
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If they have a World Title on each show, it doesn't really make sense to have the Tag Titles or Women's Title floating. I could see them bringing back the World Tag Team Titles and their history to SmackDown, and probably giving them to Enzo & Cass, giving them the big win over The Dudleys, and having The Vaudevillains there to feud with them. Cena has gone on the record saying that he sees big things for Enzo, Cass & The Vaudevillains, so making them a part of the "Cena Show" seems logical enough to me. You can also call up American Alpha and The Revival to that brand and have them have a series of matches to introduce them to people. They'd probably still work NXT at the same time while TM61 get built up and a new heel team is established to go against them, but I guess you could always send The Ascension back too.

As a retort to RAW getting Charlotte and the "WWE Women's Championship", I could see SmackDown responding by introducing a "Women's World Championship." I don't know if you'd do some sort of visual likeness to the World Heavyweight Title, or something along the lines of the classic Women's Title belt, but I could see that being the belt Bayley, Sasha and Asuka fight over.
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Old 05-28-2016, 10:41 PM   #134
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I'd be fine with something like this for SmackDown:



Replace the "Ladies" with "Women's." Or is the term "Ladies" fine? That would make it easier to distinguish between the two champs.
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Old 05-28-2016, 10:46 PM   #135
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I actually originally wanted the WWE Women's Championship to be one without a traditional strap. It'd sort of be metal the whole way around and clip together. Not sure how doable that would be though.

Maybe they could base a new one on the IWGP Heavyweight Title? That would be pretty sick.
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I think Ladies would be fine but feel like all the women should be on Raw due to the extra hour.
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I see your reasoning, but I see matches being better protected if you spread the girls out. The WWE has never done depth well. I'd put Asuka, Sasha Banks, Bayley, Naomi, Tamina, Summer Rae and maybe Paige or Natalya on SmackDown. Charlotte, Dana, Becky, Paige or Nattie, Nikki Bella, Alicia Fox and Emma can have RAW.
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Worst case scenario: You might have to call up Peyton Royce and her Poison Ivy gimmick quicker or hire a veteran or two. Sign Saraya and have her go against Paige on whatever show that is on, and bring Victoria and Molly Holly as a heel alliance to go against some younger girls on the other show, feeling that they don't get the credit they deserve for being revolutionary women.
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Some may not say she's ready, but Carmella provides another face for the SmackDown side of things, cornering Enzo & Cass and providing an occasional partner for Bayley.
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Oh, and I guess you could always put Maryse in the ring too. I'd have her on the SmackDown side as well.
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Replace the "Ladies" with "Women's." Or is the term "Ladies" fine? That would make it easier to distinguish between the two champs.
I do like this idea though. Belt looks similar to the WHC and with a little bit of modernization it could look pretty cool. I'd redo the US title and have it look like the old WCW one to. Also hope the Tag Team titles get a redesign out of this.
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Old 05-29-2016, 12:43 PM   #142
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I'd rather they not introduce new dual titles. I hated that back in the day and wouldn't care for it now. I'd prefer the champs either work both shows or one title is exclusive to one brand.
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Old 05-29-2016, 02:37 PM   #143
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The World Title and the Women's Championship should be co-brand with a "traveling NWA champion" motif.
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I agree along with the Tag titles. Should redesign them to look more like the WWE WHC and Women's titles so they all look like the WWE's most highly regarded titles.
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If they redesigned the US title to look similar tho this it would match the classic look of the IC title. I like the idea of the US and IC titles being the top titles restricted to one show and believe the US title is due for a redesign.
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I actually originally wanted the WWE Women's Championship to be one without a traditional strap. It'd sort of be metal the whole way around and clip together. Not sure how doable that would be though.

Maybe they could base a new one on the IWGP Heavyweight Title? That would be pretty sick.
Don't think it would be doable because you might have had this in mind



This is what would be seen...
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If they redesigned the US title to look similar tho this it would match the classic look of the IC title. I like the idea of the US and IC titles being the top titles restricted to one show and believe the US title is due for a redesign.
If they were to redesign the title, now would be a good time to with Rusev being champion.

After the split, Rusev could destroy the current US Title in a fit of rage after losing it, or something along those lines. Doing that would give him some good heat and add to the whole "evil foreigner/anti-American" thing, but also that it would give a reason for the GM of the brand to introduce a new design.
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That could work. Have Curtis Axel beat Rusev with the help of The Social Outcast. Rusev being humiliated tips the title in half like a phonebook. New title is given to Axel that looks like the old WCW US title that his dad won. Fathers day is next month so they could mimic what they did with his IC title win.
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The Social Outcasts are all away filming a movie.
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Changing a belt design doesn't mean they change how they book it either. It's usually just done to distract how they are booking it.
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Miz is IC champ, might as well put the US title on Axel.
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Changing a belt design doesn't mean they change how they book it either. It's usually just done to distract how they are booking it.
It should be booked better without being on the same show as the IC title seeing as they have the same contenders and it seemed if you list the IC title match you tried for the US title.
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My ideal scenario

Titles on both shows
WWE World Heavyweight Champion
WWE Women's Champion
WWE World Tag Team Champions

I'd redesign the WWE World Tag Team title to look like the WWE and Women's titles.

Raw
WWE Intercontinental Champion
WWE European Champion

Smackdown!
WWE United States Champion
WWE Cruiserweight Champion

Redesign the US title like I mentioned before. Have the US and IC titles be the most coveted titles on each show. Put the Cruiserweight Title on Smackdown again and have the European Title on Raw as secondary titles.
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I'd change the US and Tag Titles too, but I think they like the idea of each belt being so very different to the others for merchandising reasons, which I think is silly, but what are you going to do? I definitely think you could do some sort of re-design with the tag belts and it'll be fine though.

For some reason, I want to see Jack Swagger win the US Title from Rusev, then Darren Young challenges Swagger with Backlund in his corner, but Backlund turns on Young and reveals that he has been a Swagger man all along, and he's going to make Jack Swagger great again. Swagger can start doing the Crossface Chickenwing and and re-design the US Title to be "great again."
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I like it, Swagger as the US champ just writes itself. Could also continue the We the People gimmick. Backlund with him would be so much better than Darren Young to.
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How Swagger has not won the US Title yet is beyond me.
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He was US champion for like a month in 2012. Beat Zach Ryder to win it and lost it the next month to Justin Gabriel.
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He lost it to Santino Marella.
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Oh, of course he did. My bad. I'm usually really good with title histories. I got it cross-wired with the IC Title.
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My ideal scenario

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World Tag Team Champions

Smackdown!
WWE Champion
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