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Old 05-25-2016, 11:54 AM   #41
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Should let one of the shows be the "workrate" brand for my fellow neckbeards and I. Would be plzd as punch tbh
Workrate Wednesday right after NXT!
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Old 05-25-2016, 12:14 PM   #42
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Why not live in Thursday? Seems dumb to have it live on Tuesday.
Because then the wrestlers don't have to travel 2 separate times a week?
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Old 05-25-2016, 12:15 PM   #43
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All champions should be on both shows.
They should have the WHC, the Tag Titles, and the Women's title float between shows. Make the US and IC exclusive to a brand.
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Old 05-25-2016, 12:17 PM   #44
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So would tag teams and women float between shows too?
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Old 05-25-2016, 12:18 PM   #45
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Yes! I love when they do drafts!
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Old 05-25-2016, 12:49 PM   #46
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They should have the WHC, the Tag Titles, and the Women's title float between shows. Make the US and IC exclusive to a brand.
With them announcing the Cruiserweight Classic is for a title I could see them binging back the Cruiserweight Championship and have it be a Smackdown title.
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Old 05-25-2016, 01:24 PM   #47
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Yes! I love when they do drafts!
Recently watched all the old drafts (excluding the month long 2006 draft after the inintial Cena move), great stuff.

Whilst I have reservations over the split, I'm looking forward to the actual draft.
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Old 05-25-2016, 01:27 PM   #48
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they will have 1 title... for now.... and then in a couple years they will split them up, like before,
LOL it only took a few months last time.

The IC title should be the crown jewel of Smackdown. The current spoilers show how this can be done.
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Old 05-25-2016, 03:23 PM   #49
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AJ Styles vs Randy Orton for the Smackdown title by the end of the year.
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Old 05-25-2016, 03:58 PM   #50
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Oh my lord. 3 hours on Monday and 2 on Tuesday. That is a TON of wrestling.
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Old 05-25-2016, 03:58 PM   #51
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I wish that WWE would make the US and IC titles a permanent fixture of Raw or Smackdown, and then float the Tag, Women's, and World Heavyweight every week.
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Old 05-25-2016, 04:26 PM   #52
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Oh my lord. 3 hours on Monday and 2 on Tuesday. That is a TON of wrestling.
It really is. PPV weekends will give me three hours to watch on a Monday, around 2 hours 15 minutes for Tuesday, and a further 1.5 hours on Wednesday. Plus NXT on Thursday.

To be fair, I haven't watched SD for months, the fact that SmackDown is going live, and featuring exclusive guys has piqued my interest, so kudos to WWE for that.
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Old 05-25-2016, 04:32 PM   #53
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I am so fucking psyched for this.
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Old 05-25-2016, 04:38 PM   #54
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I just hope that both rosters have their separate belts. There is no way a wrestler like Dean Ambrose or Dolph Ziggler will have the chance to become champion on RAW.
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Old 05-25-2016, 04:47 PM   #55
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Problem with 2 belts is one gets deluded and labeled as a second tier title. That's what happened last time.
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Old 05-25-2016, 04:50 PM   #56
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It happened after the brand extension rules were relaxed. I distinctly remember many PPV main events with the championship associated with Smackdown on the line.
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Old 05-25-2016, 05:51 PM   #57
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I hope they don't try to do seperate PPVs at least until they've established strong and deep rosters. They've got a lot of work to do to revive a bunch of people. The solo PPVs "back in the day" often felt really lightweight at times.
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Old 05-25-2016, 05:59 PM   #58
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Feels like Smackdown is going to end up being treated the same as usual after a while except now its going to cost the WWE more money to do the shows since it would be live. Wouldn't be surprised if the USA Network is helping covering costs or threw in some incentives to make this happen now.

Injury crisis or not, the roster is deep enough in quality to make a brand split work and in theory more people should benefit but don't see the WWE being that committed in the long term for Samckdown's benefit.
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Old 05-25-2016, 06:13 PM   #59
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My initial reaction is to be very much against this idea.

We are only just beginning to rebuild the WWE roster and solidify characters as "superstars." But it's going to take more time before we have the kind of roster depth of quality that we had when the first brand split occurred. By separating the roster, I fear that the product as a whole will lose the momentum that they were just starting to rebuild.

My point I guess is just this: the WWE struggles on a weekly basis to put out one quality product per week, with a mediocre step-child being produced as a far second. I don't have faith in them to be able to properly produce TWO quality products per week.


On the other hand, I also have a strong feeling that there is more to this sudden announcement and idea than meets the eye. If the rumors of dissension backstage are true, perhaps Shane McMahon will be given one show, and Stephanie/Triple H will be given the other show, in the ultimate battle to see who will take over the WWE when Vince dies. That, and he probably just gets off on watching his kids fight over his legacy.
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Old 05-25-2016, 06:35 PM   #60
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I'm sure there's lots to the decision.

I'm already infinitely more interested in SD than I have in months. Same for a bunch of people I would imagine.

Whilst the rosters aren't all that deep right now they do have Cena, Orton, Wyatt, Harper, Rowan, Strowman, Neville, Alicia Fox, Emma, Naomi, Nikki Bella, Sasha, Tamina, Big Show, Henry, Kane, Konnor, and Ryback (maybe) waiting in the wings.

Plus there are over 40 superstars on the NXT roster currently, and the "development brand" is becoming increasingly "top heavy", especially with guys on contracts better than the usual development rate; at some point WWE will want to cash-in on the likes of Finn Balor, Samoa Joe, Shinsuke Nakamura, Austin Aries, etc.
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This sounds intriguing, but like everyone else, I'm concerned that they'll just botch it, based on past results.


They can't even handle however many storylines they currently have across RAW and SD. Now they have to double that. Unless they're hiring more writers, I feel like they'll just have more filler and nowhere near double the storylines.
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Hope they don't have separate PPVs. Feel like the PPvs should be more of a super show with both rosters.
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Old 05-25-2016, 07:28 PM   #63
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They could have a network special for the show that doesn't get a PPV that month to make it all relevant. There was nothing worse than having nothing doing for a month on either Raw and Smackdown when the other brand had a PPV on the way.

It could go either way. They aren't in the era of 40 dollar per ppvs. Separate PPVs was a tough sell in that sense.
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I actually like them having their own ppvs. It gives feuds a longer time to burn and the big 4 can be the Superbowl shows.

Imagine Cena avid Owens having the same feud but spreading the 3 matches out over 6 months instead of 3 due to having to wait an extra month.

I agree that it'll take time to build up the shows to that point so maybe you don't have brand exclusive shows until after the Rumble or even Mania.
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I have waited for this moment for a long time.

I think Vince & Co. have learned from their mistakes from the brand split's dying days and have decided to give the brand split another shot. It's been said before but this has already gained my interest in SmackDown, with it being live and having it's own roster soon.

So many guys will get a chance to at least be on TV with a brand split in place and they'll be so much more variety for us to watch, which I'm really looking forward to, as even though I've just started getting back into everything after a nine month absence, there's already a few guys of sick of seeing.
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According to the Observer, TNA is going to end up as the biggest loser with this decision since Impact will end up going head-to-head against Smackdown for at least 1 hour on Tuesdays.

They have no leverage to move while every other day possible in the week won't really improve things or already has tough competition guaranteed.
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Old 05-25-2016, 10:11 PM   #67
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Also according to the Observer, WWE is currently preparing another major talent raid to help fill out the rosters, NXT itself might be ending as a unique brand due to the mass callups planned to be happening, World (Big Gold Belt) is likely coming back, and a safe bet Reigns and Cena will be the main stars of each brand.

In terms of wrestlers possibly getting more time off now that the rosters would be split, Observer hinted the opposite might happen with more house shows being planned to happen.
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Old 05-25-2016, 10:14 PM   #68
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I can see Cena being the main guy on SmackDown, as his in-ring career slowly dwindles down.
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Old 05-25-2016, 11:11 PM   #69
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Excited for the return of the WWE Draft.

I'd be more than happy, if live coverage on TV isn't done, to provide such here in up-to-the-second updates, or just throw up something for those who don't catch it on TV, and if there's a supplemental online bit, I could include that as well, if demand for such merits it.
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Will go down exactly the same as before.
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Old 05-26-2016, 01:42 AM   #71
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Interesting, might actually start watching Smackdown again. There should only be one Heavyweight title though.
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make smackdown into WCW NITRO - have bischoff run it. HE could feud with flair for power then the NWO can do a run in...er....walk in...er..limp in..erm...phone it in like they used to do
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Old 05-26-2016, 03:06 AM   #73
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I do agree with Simple Fan, but at the same time, there's so many talented guys that never get used, or flounder, or come and go so often it's hard to care. A roster split might give them all a chance to actually get some TV time again.
That was the initial idea behind the initial brand split the first time... the problem became the idea of "we need to feature the popular people everywhere!" instead of getting exposure to the underexposed, so it just became the same as it ever was and defeated the purpose of splitting the roster.

Same idea as having what is now 3 hours of RAW as opposed to the one hour it started at a couple decades ago. You'd think there'd be whole matches of underutilized talent, but instead, it is 8 segments of the main featured storyline instead of only 5 from a 2 hour RAW, and a shit ton of commercials to finish padding the time.

Basically, this is a great idea until it eventually and inevitably breaks down again. The question is how soon.
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You had me until you started with the stuff that was all done leading up to the original split.
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I'm pretty excited for this. If Smackdown is getting more of a focus and a more prominent position on TV I hope that makes enough money to be able to cut Raw down to two hours.

I'd like Raw to have a focus on the US & Women's championship, with Smackdown being the place for the tag titles, a returning Cruiserweight division and led by the Intercontinental championship. I'd also like to see the Royal Rumble, Summerslam and Wrestlemania as the only cross-brand mega shows, with the other PPV's being for a particular brand and more network exclusives.

I've got a feeling Bray Wyatt will benefit massively from this.
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Old 05-26-2016, 07:28 AM   #76
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I'm all for the WHC returning on Smackdown. Roman Reigns can hog the WWE Title on Raw, and now finally guys like AJ Styles, Cesaro etc can be World Champions as it should be.
No no no no. We are finally getting back into a position where everyone is not a forner WWE or World champ. Keep it to 1 title where it actually means something if you won it at some point.
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Old 05-26-2016, 09:02 AM   #77
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Ugh.. Don't kill NXT for this.
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Also according to the Observer, WWE is currently preparing another major talent raid to help fill out the rosters, NXT itself might be ending as a unique brand due to the mass callups planned to be happening, World (Big Gold Belt) is likely coming back, and a safe bet Reigns and Cena will be the main stars of each brand.

In terms of wrestlers possibly getting more time off now that the rosters would be split, Observer hinted the opposite might happen with more house shows being planned to happen.
What does that mean!?
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No no no no. We are finally getting back into a position where everyone is not a forner WWE or World champ. Keep it to 1 title where it actually means something if you won it at some point.
This, 1000x this. Not everyone is world champion material. In fact, there should only be maybe 10-12 guys max (probably less actually) at that main event world champ level. Just enough guys to have varying world title feuds, #1 contender feuds and upper card "blood" main event feuds of guys who can easily move from upper card semi-main to main event.
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Old 05-26-2016, 09:39 AM   #80
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They can't even handle however many storylines they currently have across RAW and SD. Now they have to double that. Unless they're hiring more writers, I feel like they'll just have more filler and nowhere near double the storylines.
This is also true. The idea that the brand split will improve or make the writing and under performing talent better is an illogical fallacy.
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