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Old 02-12-2012, 02:21 PM   #1
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Am I the only one who listens to Black Metal here?

It seems so...I dont really see anyone else discuss BM bands here...

So, is it only me?

If not, lets discuss BM in this thread




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Old 02-12-2012, 02:40 PM   #2
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Old 02-12-2012, 02:47 PM   #3
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I don't mind the heavy stuff but I have no idea what would be considered black metal.

If it's all growly and they don't enunciate I'll pass.
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Old 02-12-2012, 02:50 PM   #4
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Old 02-12-2012, 04:29 PM   #5
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I love wolves in the throne room and galoch an many other black metal.
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Old 02-12-2012, 04:50 PM   #6
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Is black metal like that time Korn got a bunch of rappers to portray them in one of their videos?
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Old 02-12-2012, 05:05 PM   #7
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By "black metal" you mean like Body Count right??
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Old 02-12-2012, 05:16 PM   #8
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Old 02-12-2012, 05:44 PM   #9
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Old 02-12-2012, 06:05 PM   #10
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depends how kvlt it is.
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Old 02-12-2012, 06:22 PM   #11
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Wikipedia has it defined pretty well,

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Black metal is an extreme subgenre of heavy metal music. Common traits include fast tempos, shrieked vocals, highly distorted guitars played with tremolo picking, blast beat drumming, raw recording, and unconventional song structure.

During the 1980s, several thrash metal bands formed a prototype for black metal. This so-called "first wave" included bands such as Venom, Bathory, Hellhammer and Celtic Frost.[1] A "second wave" arose in the early 1990s, spearheaded by Norwegian bands such as Mayhem, Burzum, Darkthrone, Immortal and Emperor. The music of the early Norwegian black metal scene became a distinct genre.

Black metal has often been met with hostility from mainstream culture, mainly due to the misanthropic and anti-Christian standpoint of many artists. Moreover, several of the genre's pioneers have been linked with church burnings and murder. For these reasons and others, black metal is usually seen as an underground form of music. Additionally some have been linked to neo-Nazism, however most black metal fans and most prominent black metal musicians reject Nazi ideology and oppose its influence on the black metal subculture
Usually the lyrics are either pagan/about nature/misanthropy or satanic.

Dimmu Borgir would qualify for Black Metal, but their later stuff has become more mainstream and therefore less creative...but I still like them.

Some of my favorite are Gehenna, Emperor, Immortal, Mistur, and Windir.

All the best bands in this genre, imo, are scandinavian, so it recieves little to no exposure in the US.

Some examples (cant seem to get the embed code to work)

http://youtu.be/EBh2-oqtXoo

http://youtu.be/U4G0mFGWssQ

http://youtu.be/wCA0ZCeuLvM

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Old 02-12-2012, 06:21 PM   #12
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I listen to plenty of it, but you make me uncomfortable, so I won't be discussing it with you.
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Old 02-12-2012, 10:41 PM   #13
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I like Bathory, Suidakra, Celtic Frost, Morbid Angel and others...
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Old 02-13-2012, 01:03 AM   #14
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Old 02-13-2012, 01:30 AM   #15
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I like some black metal, but not a whole bunch. I like 1349, Kovenant, Thorns, some Emperor, Death (they're death metal but I love them) and the black metal influenced bands like Dimmu and Cradle.

I dig some Bathory, Dissection and a few others but not enough that I'd know albums I could always listen to.
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Old 02-13-2012, 01:50 AM   #16
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Use to be really into the scene years ago.
Not so much anymore. Most bands are just clones. Still listen to a handful of bands. Mostly the classics.
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Old 02-13-2012, 02:01 AM   #17
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bits and pieces. might be the most self-righteous/up it's own arse genre in music tho, even more than the full-on indie clowns
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Old 02-13-2012, 04:51 AM   #18
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Could someone explain the differences between Death Metal and Black Metal, using examples that actually make sense.
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Old 02-13-2012, 04:52 AM   #19
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Also, Progressive Metal > Black Metal.
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Old 02-13-2012, 04:57 AM   #20
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Depends on your definition of black metal

we talking Darkthrone or cradle of filth
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Old 02-13-2012, 08:35 AM   #21
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Distorted guitars? In Metal? Why, I've never heard such a thing!
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Old 02-14-2012, 07:13 AM   #23
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Started enjoying black metal only a couple of years back, and i think a lot of that had to do with watching Satyricon live. The chills and the abnormal vibe i experienced when they played "Mother North" had me rooted at the spot, scared shitless, and still wanting more and more of it.

That being said, i enjoy the drony-ness and the constant pummel of true Black Metal the most, although the new wave of post-black metal bands have also made the genre highly accessible, and dare i say it, a bit catchy and trendy as well.

Bands that i dig include Satyricon, 1349, Insomnium, Agalloch, Behemoth, Dornenreich, Fen, Drudkh, Enslaved, Gorgoroth, Ihsahn, Inquisition, Marduk, Mayhem, Melechesh, Nachymystium, Negura Bunget, Rotting Christ, Wolves In The Throne Room
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"Mushroomhead" is not Black Metal, it's "Nu-Metal", or pop metal or whatever.

Listening to a new CD I found online recently, Foudre Noure - The Dark Gods. Really cool stuff, its a sort of "space-rock black metal". Very atmospheric.
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"Mushroomhead" is not Black Metal, it's "Nu-Metal", or pop metal or whatever.

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What the fuck is 'Post-Black Metal'?
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Just gonna add that every metal band can be placed in one of six subgenres: Traditional Heavy Metal, Progressive Metal, Power Metal, Thrash Metal, Death Metal and Alternative Metal.

Everything else overcomplicates the fuck out of it. As far as I'm concerned Black, 'Post-Black' and any other 'true Norweigen' nonsense etc would all go under 'Death Metal'.
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Just gonna add that every metal band can be placed in one of six subgenres: Traditional Heavy Metal, Progressive Metal, Power Metal, Thrash Metal, Death Metal and Alternative Metal.

Everything else overcomplicates the fuck out of it. As far as I'm concerned Black, 'Post-Black' and any other 'true Norweigen' nonsense etc would all go under 'Death Metal'.
But you're not a pretentious douche, which is why you see needless complication as bad.
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But you're not a pretentious douche, which is why you see needless complication as bad.
Fucking hate your posts. Can never tell if this is some kinda sarcastic shot at me, or legit. Tell me, and know that your answer will determine the outcome of whether or not you will get a green rep dot or a red one. :foc:
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Fucking hate your posts. Can never tell if this is some kinda sarcastic shot at me, or legit. Tell me, and know that your answer will determine the outcome of whether or not you will get a green rep dot or a red one. :foc:
Once again, if you actually listened to the genres, as opposed to hearing bits and pieces here and there, you would see that the difference is very clear. Can you honestly say that these sound like the same genre?

(Death Metal)


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Once again, if you actually listened to the genres, as opposed to hearing bits and pieces here and there, you would see that the difference is very clear. Can you honestly say that these sound like the same genre?

(Death Metal)


(Black Metal)


(Death Metal)


(Black Metal)


You should re-read my post you marooon. I wasn't talking to you, in fact I even quoted Kane Knight, whom I was talking to.

But in response anyway, I only heard snippets and honestly, I don't care. They sound the same with the exception of Amon Amarth, but for all I know you've gone and picked out two songs from certain bands that are completely different and classed them as different genres.

It's like if I played a song by Shadow Gallery and Opeth. Neither sound anything like each other, but both could easily be classed as Progressive Metal. And then I could go into the whole overcomplicated bullshit like 'Shadow Gallery are traditional Prog Metal whilst Opeth are more of a Death-Prog-Core band' or some bollocks like that.
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Old 03-10-2012, 08:02 AM   #33
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Old 02-19-2012, 06:31 PM   #34
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Just gonna add that every metal band can be placed in one of six subgenres: Traditional Heavy Metal, Progressive Metal, Power Metal, Thrash Metal, Death Metal and Alternative Metal.

Everything else overcomplicates the fuck out of it. As far as I'm concerned Black, 'Post-Black' and any other 'true Norweigen' nonsense etc would all go under 'Death Metal'.

I disagree. There is a very big difference between Black and Death metal, Death is more distorted, and fast paced, basically, like Thrash only with growls, while Black is more melodic, slower paced, usually with a different vocal style. While Death metal has low, bass heavy growls, Black metal tends to have very "high" screams.

A more simplified analogy is to say that Death Metal is a heavier Thrash metal with distorted/growl vocals, while Black Metal is a depressive reflection of power metal.

I would say the genres are, Trash, Power, Death, Black and Doom. I see "nu- metal" as more relevant to pop music, than to any genre of metal.
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Old 02-20-2012, 02:43 PM   #35
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I disagree. There is a very big difference between Black and Death metal, Death is more distorted, and fast paced, basically, like Thrash only with growls, while Black is more melodic, slower paced, usually with a different vocal style. While Death metal has low, bass heavy growls, Black metal tends to have very "high" screams.

A more simplified analogy is to say that Death Metal is a heavier Thrash metal with distorted/growl vocals, while Black Metal is a depressive reflection of power metal.

I would say the genres are, Trash, Power, Death, Black and Doom. I see "nu- metal" as more relevant to pop music, than to any genre of metal.
The fuck you talking aboot? Both of those genres sound exactly the same.
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When I was in Sweden last year I popped into a "rock" music store. My God there were so many abstract genres, pretty sure 99% of them were made up.

Bunch of ridiculous nonsense like "Screamgore" and "Doomstep".
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