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Old 09-16-2014, 04:51 PM   #41
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I think lol TNA gets over used and not used properly. Are people really laughing out loud at total non-stop action?
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Old 09-16-2014, 05:10 PM   #42
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Old 09-16-2014, 05:24 PM   #43
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I feel like a lot of times people use the word "shoot" to mean "speak disparagingly about." As in "recently released WWE wrestler shoots on Vince and Triple H!" This isn't incorrectly used in this case, but the tendency seems to be to charge the word to expect the reader to expect something juicy and inflammatory. You never see something labeled as "Some guy shoots on Vince McMahon!" and find that the meat of his statement was "Vince is a great guy, he totally did right by me and I love him like a dad." "To shoot" simply means "to act as one's true self as opposed to one's wrestling character."
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Old 09-16-2014, 06:15 PM   #44
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I feel like a lot of times people use the word "shoot" to mean "speak disparagingly about." As in "recently released WWE wrestler shoots on Vince and Triple H!" This isn't incorrectly used in this case, but the tendency seems to be to charge the word to expect the reader to expect something juicy and inflammatory. You never see something labeled as "Some guy shoots on Vince McMahon!" and find that the meat of his statement was "Vince is a great guy, he totally did right by me and I love him like a dad." "To shoot" simply means "to act as one's true self as opposed to one's wrestling character."
I will say among one another shoot does mean "make inflammatory comments" but also if some comes to me and asks me if they can ask me a question i will respond with "shoot" meaning "speak truth." so it works both ways.
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Old 09-16-2014, 06:47 PM   #45
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How many people have used "Over" the wrong way. Based on 1 or 2 crowd reactions and nothing more.
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Old 09-16-2014, 11:06 PM   #46
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Main Eventer.

The IWC thinks anyone who can wrestle a 4 star match should.be main eventing. Cody Rhodes for example. He's a mid to upper mid card guy. Not a main eventer and there's nothing wrong with that. Everybody has a role. Having a solid undercard only makes the product better.
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Old 09-17-2014, 01:55 PM   #47
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One other thing just to be clear since I keep seeing it come up, losing to Cena even multiple times does not equate to a burial.
Losing does not equal being buried in and of itself; it's all about the nature in which occurs. Anything gratuitous is seen as being "buried".

So, a former multi-time champion like Chavi losing to a midget would easily be seen as him being buried.

Meanwhile, the entire Wyatt Family having their asses handed to them by Cena can also be seen as a burial. Not so much the fact that they lost, but the way in which they lost.
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Old 09-20-2014, 11:21 AM   #48
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TNA Impact Spoiler.

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Samoa Joe vacated the TNA X-Division Championship at the iMPACT! Wrestling television taping Friday night in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania because he was reportedly not medically cleared to compete. As a result, a fatal four way was held later on in the taping to crown a new X-Division Champion, which Low Ki won.
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Old 09-20-2014, 12:38 PM   #49
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Old 09-20-2014, 12:41 PM   #50
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Samoa Joe vacated the TNA X-Division Championship at the iMPACT! Wrestling television taping Friday night in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania because he was reportedly not medically cleared to compete. As a result, a fatal four way was held later on in the taping to crown a new X-Division Champion, which Low Ki won.
Dude if you don't think WWE was burrying Kaval you are insane.
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Old 09-20-2014, 02:37 PM   #51
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Losing does not equal being buried in and of itself; it's all about the nature in which occurs. Anything gratuitous is seen as being "buried".

So, a former multi-time champion like Chavi losing to a midget would easily be seen as him being buried.

Meanwhile, the entire Wyatt Family having their asses handed to them by Cena can also be seen as a burial. Not so much the fact that they lost, but the way in which they lost.
So then, Kane buried Daniel Bryan right?
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Old 09-20-2014, 02:47 PM   #52
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Dude if you don't think WWE was burrying Kaval you are insane.
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I'll start with the worst offender: Burried

If someone is burried they are used in such a way that they are dead. PERMANENTLY. They will never be able to make money again. Being used to get someone over =/= burial. Being in a midcard program =/= burial.
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Old 09-20-2014, 02:49 PM   #53
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And he could still go back to WWE one day and make money if they booked him right.
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Old 09-21-2014, 12:32 AM   #54
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I feel like a lot of times people use the word "shoot" to mean "speak disparagingly about." As in "recently released WWE wrestler shoots on Vince and Triple H!" This isn't incorrectly used in this case, but the tendency seems to be to charge the word to expect the reader to expect something juicy and inflammatory. You never see something labeled as "Some guy shoots on Vince McMahon!" and find that the meat of his statement was "Vince is a great guy, he totally did right by me and I love him like a dad." "To shoot" simply means "to act as one's true self as opposed to one's wrestling character."
In the same vein, "speaks out" is used in the same way under the same false pretenses. Instead of referring to someone breaking silence about a particular subject OR emerging from total media silence, it is taken to imply they're going to say something scandalous or scathing, even if that isn't the case. Hell, sometimes, the person is already vocal about the topic, for good or ill. For example, if CM Punk actually publicly addressed his WWE departure after the time that has passed without deflecting sarcasm or completely ignoring the subject, in detail, warts and all, he would actually be speaking out.

But that's less of a wrestling thing and more a garbage journalism thing. Not pointing any fingers at any specific easy target on the front page ( but, hey, if the shoe fits...) as I've seen and heard this done since forever ago, like when Hard Copy was household name TMZ is now, not to mention actual tabloids at supermarket checkouts worldwide.
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Old 09-21-2014, 01:04 AM   #55
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X Pac heat. If a heel gets over that the IWC doesn'twant to get over (Vickie Guerrero when she started) then they have X Pac heat
Honestly, there is a better word for X-Pac heat... apathy. It wasn't that Syxx sucked. At all. Its just that pretty much after his DX return, he kept doing the same shit. Same music. Same entrance. Same whiny promos. Spin kick, crotch chop, bronco buster, X-factor, by-the-numbers matches most of the time. After awhile, it stopped being "cool" and just became boring goofy shit. Yet instead of using the growing backlash to freshen up (like The Rock), he just kept on doing the same thing night in and night out to the point where he wasn't getting "We hate you because you're a heel" heat, he was getting "Uuugh, again! ? We don't want to see this shit anymore, go away!" heat.
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Old 09-21-2014, 05:13 AM   #56
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"go away" heat is what you dont want. the kind of heat that makes people not buy tickets.
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Old 09-21-2014, 06:04 PM   #57
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Burial/Bury
The worked lowering (relegation) of a popular wrestler's status in the eyes of the fans. It is the act of a promoter or booker causing a wrestler to lose popularity by forcing him to lose in squash matches, continuously, and/or participate in unentertaining or degrading storylines. It can be a form of punishment for real-life backstage disagreements or feuds between the wrestler and the booker, the wrestler falling out of favor with the company, or the wrestler receiving an unpopular gimmick that causes him to lose credibility regardless of win-loss record.
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Old 09-21-2014, 10:34 PM   #59
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Old 09-22-2014, 02:34 AM   #60
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Burial/Bury
The worked lowering (relegation) of a popular wrestler's status in the eyes of the fans. It is the act of a promoter or booker causing a wrestler to lose popularity by forcing him to lose in squash matches, continuously, and/or participate in unentertaining or degrading storylines. It can be a form of punishment for real-life backstage disagreements or feuds between the wrestler and the booker, the wrestler falling out of favor with the company, or the wrestler receiving an unpopular gimmick that causes him to lose credibility regardless of win-loss record.
incorect, that is the IWCs interpretation...who also wrote that on the WIKI to begin with.
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Old 09-22-2014, 12:44 PM   #61
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Main Eventer.

The IWC thinks anyone who can wrestle a 4 star match should.be main eventing. Cody Rhodes for example. He's a mid to upper mid card guy. Not a main eventer and there's nothing wrong with that. Everybody has a role. Having a solid undercard only makes the product better.
Cody Rhodes doesn't have a main event shine if you will, but in an actual developed mid card he would be tremendous along with Cesaro and Sheamus as well as Ziggler etc. The problem is there's no god damned focus on the mid card and the story lines are non existent so people want a little more shine on certain guys to make it seem like their favourite wrasslers aren't just there to fill space and time on a 3 hour over booked raw. Thus, they want them in the main event so there can at least be a bit more emphasis on someone they care about. I blame the company more than the fans for this.
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Old 09-22-2014, 02:28 PM   #62
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incorect, that is the IWCs interpretation...who also wrote that on the WIKI to begin with.
You can't even spell "burried"
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Old 09-22-2014, 04:35 PM   #63
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