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Old 05-15-2011, 07:20 PM   #41
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Tito Ortiz was a much bigger draw, and held much more bargaining power than Jones ever will. Ortiz is still probably a bigger draw.
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Old 05-15-2011, 07:23 PM   #42
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Also, Ortiz and Chuck did fight, didnt they? This is more a coincidence then anything, now if there were more facts to base this on more than the one fight, I think it's just outlandish to say he's ducking him. Rashad probably doesn't believe it, or maybe he does, but I'm guessing this is more him playing mind games then anything.
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Old 05-15-2011, 07:23 PM   #43
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Talk about "ducking fights" and Tito Ortiz's name is sure to come up..
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I knew he had a fight lined up but couldn't remember who it was with..

Prolly give Machida a gay ass "rubber match" with Shogun before they do a Page/Shogun rematch..

Would be immense though..

Let's all hope not. But in a title elimiator, that makes sense...I would much rather see Rua Dismantle Griffin then the Rampage Rematch.

Holy shit, that would be awesome.
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Also, Ortiz and Chuck did fight, didnt they? This is more a coincidence then anything, now if there were more facts to base this on more than the one fight, I think it's just outlandish to say he's ducking him. Rashad probably doesn't believe it, or maybe he does, but I'm guessing this is more him playing mind games then anything.
Coincidence? After I have carefully researched and presented to you a body of facts? :foc:


Seriously, this is PURELY COINCIDENCE. I GET IT!!! I mean, who would schedule an optional surgery, only to back out and not need it right after the opponent signs a replacement fight? Niggas wouldn't do that just to avoid fighting somebody who knows all the tricks in my arsenal...
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From what I read, he was told by several doctors he needed surgery, and then before he was to have said surgery the surgeon, or a doctor decided that surgery wasn't nessicery.
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Again, when he ducks him two or three more times, then it's not just a crazy conspiracy.
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And I'm pretty sure this is the same guy who has no problem with Nick Diaz ducking wrestlers, though I could be wrong.
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Again, when he ducks him two or three more times, then it's not just a crazy conspiracy.
Seriously. By the 'evidence' presented, Brock's ducking JDS and ducked Carwin, Velasquez is currently ducking everybody, Rashad ducked Shogun, Mark Coleman ducked Tito, Forrest ducked Little Nog and so on. I did enjoy putting 2 and 2 together and coming up with sausages based on reading an article/some MMA news being described as a 'carefully researched body of facts' though.
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And before you mention the surgery and then not having it, it's irrelevant. One injury, one postponed fight is what your entire argument is based on. Professional athletes back out of scheduled surgery, take on 2nd opinions etc all the time, in plenty of sports. If Jones had avoided fighting him over and over, or even if he had some kind of questionable character/past, then maybe. But this is merely fanboy-ism taken to the extreme.
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Well now you're just going and trying to be logical...
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Krimzon probably thinks Sonny Liston is still ducking George Chuvalo.
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that would be an amazing story though

LISTON LIVES!
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And before you mention the surgery and then not having it, it's irrelevant. One injury, one postponed fight is what your entire argument is based on. Professional athletes back out of scheduled surgery, take on 2nd opinions etc all the time, in plenty of sports. If Jones had avoided fighting him over and over, or even if he had some kind of questionable character/past, then maybe. But this is merely fanboy-ism taken to the extreme.
You are so quick to dismiss what I'm saying as fan boy logic. Cain had surgery. lesnar had a disease. JON JONES HAS A HAND...WHATEVER....THAT HE HAS HAD SINCE COLLEGE. HE SAID HIMSELF, HE DIDN'T NEED SURGERY BUT HE WAS CHOOSING TO GET IT FIXED. When this came out...cool, whatever. But as soon as the fight with Evans/Davis is inked, this guy pops up and is ok? It is a miracle! He doesn't need to have the elective surgery. But whatever, this is the second 'questionable' thing that has come up against Jones. I'm sure we could go another 3 pages with you asses defending him breaking Team Jackson's code too...
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I'm not defending Jones, so much as I am being rational. I actually hope Evans wins. I'm not a some Jones fanboy or anything.
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You are so quick to dismiss what I'm saying as fan boy logic. Cain had surgery. lesnar had a disease. JON JONES HAS A HAND...WHATEVER....THAT HE HAS HAD SINCE COLLEGE. HE SAID HIMSELF, HE DIDN'T NEED SURGERY BUT HE WAS CHOOSING TO GET IT FIXED. When this came out...cool, whatever. But as soon as the fight with Evans/Davis is inked, this guy pops up and is ok? It is a miracle! He doesn't need to have the elective surgery. But whatever, this is the second 'questionable' thing that has come up against Jones. I'm sure we could go another 3 pages with you asses defending him breaking Team Jackson's code too...
I wasn't 'quick to' at all. I've read everything you've had to say. And you've done nothing but repeat the same thing over and over. And it still defies logic and rationale. Everything you say is based strictly on your own speculation, wishful thinking and probably Rashad's yapping on Twitter/social media.
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So, when Jones camp says he will fight again in 2011, but he won't fight Evans, what is that?
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I wasn't 'quick to' at all. I've read everything you've had to say. And you've done nothing but repeat the same thing over and over. And it still defies logic and rationale. Everything you say is based strictly on your own speculation, wishful thinking and probably Rashad's yapping on Twitter/social media.
Well, you have certainly told me. So, to dismiss recognizing a pattern of events as speculation is rationality and logic?
Lol, whatever man...Again, when Jon jones steps up, and says bring Rashad Evans head to me...
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You're still talking about a 'pattern of events'. And it is still only one instance. When it happens again and again and actually becomes something resembling a pattern, head to me (and everybody else in this thread)
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Jesus, so now that jones is back and able to fight, why is his publicist saying he won't fight Evans? Or, does this not register on you radar as an instance?
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And not once have I refrenced rashad Evans twitter, or statements that he made. I have mentioned events and suspicious actions that Jon Jones have made
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Well for a start Rashad already has another fight lined up. If I was Jones, I'd be taunting Rashad and winding him up already about the fact he could very well lose to Phil Davis. And Jones isn't cleared to train/fight until June 8th or 11th or something. Why would he rush through an 8 week camp having just won a title in a fight in which he rushed through another camp to set up a fight with somebody that knows a bit about him in potentially the biggest and definitely the most personally involved fight of his career? That would be an utterly stupid thing to do and he would be doing himself a disservice. And Jones has already said himself that as soon as he gets back training, it'll be for Rashad. It is as if you are ignoring common sense and sprinting between launch pads so you can keep jumping to conclusions.
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I think Bones' manager just handled this very badly. Jones did say some conflicting things about the injury and Kawa's tweets and interviews didn't really clear up anything. If Matt Mitrione fires your manager on national television, you should probably find better representation. I can see why Shad would be pissed.

At the same time, I don't think anyone can question Jon Jones' heart. I'm a Rashad Evans fan too, but Jones took a fight with Shogun on the spot and I don't think he even thought he'd run through him the way he did. I don't think Jones is ducking Suga.
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For sure conflicting stuff doesn't help matters but that stuff happens in all forms of sports and entertainment with how easy it is for people to have a voice nowadays and report 'facts'. I doubt Rashad even believes himself that Jones is ducking him, my guess is he's hyping the fight, trying to wind Jones up or both of the above.
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Definitely agree with that. It's just with so many people having a voice, you'd think his manager would be the voice of reason. This guy just keeps fucking up. His twitter page is him talking about "Haters" and going back and forth with 15 year olds. You'd never see legit sports agents like Scott Boras or Drew Rosenhaus doing crap like that.
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if rashad even could get near jones in a fight i would be amazed. i will bet any of you good money jones beats rashad when that fight happens.
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if rashad even could get near jones in a fight i would be amazed. i will bet any of you good money jones beats rashad when that fight happens.
I wont be, Rashad has very good wrestling, and excellent takedowns, and changes levels about as well as anyone. Not to mention his boxing is very good, and is better than Jones', and Evans footwork has also been improving.
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Old 05-16-2011, 02:41 PM   #68
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On paper Evans has alot of advantages over Jones, now it's up to how he overcomes the size and reach disadvantage.
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Old 05-16-2011, 04:22 PM   #69
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He also hasn't fought in a long fucking time. The Davis fight serves as good prep for him.
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I think seeing Jones and Evans as coaches on TUF would be intriguing in so many ways.
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Old 05-16-2011, 05:27 PM   #71
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I hope he doesn't sleep on Davis cause that guy's wrestling is beast mode activated..
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Speaking of Rashad Evans, I met him at a club in Toronto back in August/September. I saw him get rejected by like 6-7 different girls he tried to dance with. It was funny. I thought UFC fighters could get any chick they wanted.
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Old 05-16-2011, 07:14 PM   #73
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This article is a pretty good read. I really don't think Jones is "ducking him" anyway. Makes no sense.

http://mmajunkie.com/news/23598/ufc-...-years-end.mma
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Old 05-16-2011, 08:53 PM   #74
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Is Jon Jones ducking John Jones?
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Krimzon7's gone awfully quiet.
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Old 05-18-2011, 07:05 PM   #76
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Kinda hard to type while coddling Rashad's testicles..
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What else is there to say? I see what I see, you see (or dont) see whatever you believe. I am still looking for another jumping pad, whatever the fuck that is.

Jones/Evans TUF could be cool, but that would only further delay the fight, that I still believe Jones doesnt want. We will allow this dramedy to play out and WHEN Jones further displays his yellow streak, I will start the official I told u jones was ducking shad now get in line to suck my dick thread
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lol ur a clown. Be a real MMA fan and stop hugging nuts so god damned hard.
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Krimzon, look man. You're entitled to your opinion and all, but you just need to dial down the fanaticism a bit because you're approaching this territory right here:
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I AM a real MMA fan, I've got my tap out t shirts, and I train UFC everyday. Anyhow, I guess I can put Shad's nuts down long enough to say that it boggles me how Machida can go from potentially cut from the UFC, to crane kicking his way to a 50/50 (w/rampage) for an October title fight. Thiago Silva is somewhere pissed that he couldn't get a better fake pee sample!
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