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Old 05-27-2011, 05:27 PM   #121
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lol 'don't change the subject'. My god.

And yes, Shogun is very much the calibre of Rashad Evans, you have no basis whatsoever to claim otherwise outside of the fact that it's Rashad Evans and anything outside of people calling him the greatest fighter in the history of hand to hand combat just will not do for you. And lol you attempting to make out I'm any variety of fanboy for Jones when all I've done in here is speculate who I think will win the fight and counter every ridiculous Rashad fanboy 'point' you've made. There isn't anything else to say here, people will point out that you are talking out of your arse, you will respond vaguely, ignoring the points that people have you bang to rights on and spouting something else before somebody replies, you do the same rinse, repeat etc. Until you stop dick-riding Rashad such an abhorrent amount, gain a little perspective and not keep jumping to ridiculous conclusions because they fit your crazy 'argument', this is whole thing is an utterly redundant exercise.
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Amazing, absolutely amazing CSL... you manage to get to a fourth page and NOW you're trying to call this pointless. FUCKING BRILLIANT deduction. I was running out of straws. In any case, the simple and only fact is that opinions are like assholes....everybody has one. I've got mine, and you got yours. On this matter, they differ. Honestly, like I already stated, I agree that the majority of this is pure bad spin by a novice manager...but the coincidences are odd. The only conclusion I jumped to is that you are an amazing cock sucker for jones....and I'm realizing that you're really just a cock sucker.

And Shogun is an amazing FIGHTER, perhaps one of my fav all time strikers. But I would feel confident in saying that rashad may be a better athlete. Even if I wanted to argue that rashad is a better fighter, there would be a case laid out in wins, losses, and caliber of opponents. You have every right to argue against my opinion. You don't see me calling you out for you swallowing the Jon jones jizz. But, unlike you, I welcome that opinion, asshole. And since we won't get to see this fight, let's see how bones does against rampage, common opponent...

I bet jones will be clamoring for a title eliminator early 2012.
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Old 05-27-2011, 09:56 PM   #123
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lol good lord, whatever you say buddy.
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This thread was alot better than I thought it would be...
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Ditto for me too brah...
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Old 06-16-2011, 07:40 AM   #126
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http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f2/put...ments-1687593/

Too lazy to type out on iPad. But interesting read for all who still doubt the validity of the inconsistencies that spew outta Jon Jones mouth
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Old 06-16-2011, 10:26 AM   #127
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lol I enjoyed how you tried to take some variety of high-road, like this was all so pointless and you weren't the one repeating the same redundant points over and over again but then come running back in here as soon as you have something that you think helps your argument

Which it doesn't. That guy has said nothing you haven't already said in this thread which in turn has been responded to by me or somebody else, only he presented his argument in a more concise, educated and easier to read manner. Only real difference is the majority at Sherdog appear to "think" like you, stating "facts" based on their own assumptions and ignoring a bit of logic when convenient. Not to mention it's a post on an internet message board, just like this here internet message board. Nothing written in there is any more valid than anything in here. But thanks for posting that, never really seen what everybody means when talking about Sherdog and the rabid clowns that post there (admittedly I didn't look very hard) but I get it now.
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Why would Bones duck Rashad when he'd destroy him
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Anyone else think Rampage might be a punching/kicking bag for Bones?
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lol I enjoyed how you tried to take some variety of high-road, like this was all so pointless and you weren't the one repeating the same redundant points over and over again but then come running back in here as soon as you have something that you think helps your argument

Which it doesn't. That guy has said nothing you haven't already said in this thread which in turn has been responded to by me or somebody else, only he presented his argument in a more concise, educated and easier to read manner. Only real difference is the majority at Sherdog appear to "think" like you, stating "facts" based on their own assumptions and ignoring a bit of logic when convenient. Not to mention it's a post on an internet message board, just like this here internet message board. Nothing written in there is any more valid than anything in here. But thanks for posting that, never really seen what everybody means when talking about Sherdog and the rabid clowns that post there (admittedly I didn't look very hard) but I get it now.

No, CSL, I GET IT NOW... Instead of admitting that there are inconstancies, and very questionable actions, you chose to a) post some 10 odd photos of rash ads face, and b) try to counterpoint as if you fucking know the deal. Whatever, guy.

At the end of the day, there is evidence in the form of JON JONES own words, and a slew of poor public relations from his manager. At the end of the day, this info has been submitted for those who want to read the articles supplied in that link.


AND, AT THE END OF THE DAY, I understand that there are two trains of thought in this matter. You feel like you've disproven what ive posted, and you truly are a moron. How can you deny actual events? You can call this entire matter a 'weird turn of events' or whatever you wanna call it. I couldn't give a fuck, sir. I will call it ducking.
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Rashad could have waited for Jones, just saying.
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Why would Bones duck Rashad when he'd destroy him
Sir, this statement is opinion, and you're welcome to it. The fact is, the two have trained together, and Shad presents an opponent with a clear understanding of how to beat Jon jones. Shad could be to Jones what Carwin was to Brock.

I'm not sure Rampage is the jobber you make him out to be either. Jones struggled against Bonnar, who pushed the pace and stayed in JJ's face. I think rampage can get inside that reach, and make shit tough for JJ
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Rashad could have waited for Jones, just saying.
let's remember that Jon Jones said he'd be out for six months before the Jon jones healing factor kicked in
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Sir, this statement is opinion, and you're welcome to it. The fact is, the two have trained together, and Shad presents an opponent with a clear understanding of how to beat Jon jones. Shad could be to Jones what Carwin was to Brock.
That kind of goes both ways though doesn't it?
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Sir, this statement is opinion, and you're welcome to it. The fact is, the two have trained together, and Shad presents an opponent with a clear understanding of how to beat Jon jones. Shad could be to Jones what Carwin was to Brock.
Brock beat Carwin..so yes Bones will beat Rashad
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Brock beat Carwin..so yes Bones will beat Rashad
Possible outcome. Win or lose, people had a clear blueprint for beating Brock after Carwin fought him
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That kind of goes both ways though doesn't it?
Absolutely it does! But people already assume to have rashad's number. It's still a riddle to beat Jon jones.
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Rashad could have waited for Jones, just saying.
No he couldn't have. Their fight had been announced for UFC 133 when Jones pulled out. At that point there was no way in hell Dana would have let Evans pull out of the main event to wait again.

I still don't think Bones is ducking Rashad. Him and his manager just have sorry excuses. That's all.

As far as Rampage v. Bones, I feel like the athleticism of Jones will be a problem for Rampage.
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let's remember that Jon Jones said he'd be out for six months before the Jon jones healing factor kicked in
Still could have waited, and should have waited before saying Jones was ducking him, whether he is or not.
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Rashad had the option of fighting, or waiting for Jones to get healthy, he chose to fight.
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Come on man. Dana's been bitching and moaning about Rashad sitting out to wait for Shogun for the last year.

Do you really think he was going to let Rashad back out of the main event and wait for Jon Jones. Especially when he was under the assumption at the time that Jones would be out for 6 months?
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I didn't say anything about backing out of his fight with David, I said he could have waited for Jones instead of taking another fight. It's not that hard to understand, regardless of whether or not he should have waited, that wasn't the point.
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Jones vs. Evans was booked for UFC 133. Jones pulled out and Davis replaced him literally the next day. How could Evans have waited for Jones without backing out of a main event he was already booked for?
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Don't say someone is ducking you when you had the option to wait and fight them, if he was already sidelined for a year that was his fault, and yes it made sense to take the David fight, but then don't turn around and say Jones is ducking you.
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Jones vs. Evans was booked for UFC 133. Jones pulled out and Davis replaced him literally the next day. How could Evans have waited for Jones without backing out of a main event he was already booked for?
He was given the option of waiting for Jones, or fighting in the meantime, he chose to fight, jesus it's not understand.
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The point is, Rashad most likely didn't have a choice in whether or not he could take the Davis fight or wait to fight Jones and for Jones to suddenly and miraculously turn up healthy after Rashad is locked into a matchup with Davis opens up the door for Rashad to say Jones is ducking him.

It's not like Rashad deliberated for a week and then said fuck it I'll fight Davis. Almost as soon as it was announced Jones was hurt, Davis was put in his place. So what option to wait and fight was he given?

I personally don't believe anyone who fights for a living would duck anyone else, but when you read the excuses that Jones and his manager give it leaves openings.
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He was given the option of waiting for Jones, or fighting in the meantime, he chose to fight, jesus it's not understand.
Show me an article that says Rashad had the option to wait and I'll believe you.

Without that all I can go on is the shit Dana's given Rashad in the past about sitting out and believe that Rashad didn't really have a choice.
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Old 06-17-2011, 11:32 AM   #148
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No, Rashad had a choice, and he said he didn't want to wait. I will find the interview for you.
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I did see a video where Dana was shit talking about Rashad taking too much time off and him not wanting to fight his training partners .

The ladder being a seperate issue Rashad probably felt as if he had no choice but to accept any fight he got put into.
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I didn't say anything about backing out of his fight with David, I said he could have waited for Jones instead of taking another fight. It's not that hard to understand, regardless of whether or not he should have waited, that wasn't the point.
To acknowledgevyour point, YES HE COULD HAVE WAITED. With Brock out, Maynard/Edgar succumbing to injury, Ortiz backing out of a fight with 22 plus stitches, and three main events being screwed....
NOT TO MENTION, being in the dog house because rashad towed the Jackson Camps line and deciding that his title shot was more important than making Dana money....
Shad wasn't gonna back out the fight. although it's popular to shit on him, shad is loyal to a fault. It got him burned into looking like a bitch initially with JJ, and it burned him outta a title match in this immediate future
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The point is, Rashad most likely didn't have a choice in whether or not he could take the Davis fight or wait to fight Jones and for Jones to suddenly and miraculously turn up healthy after Rashad is locked into a matchup with Davis opens up the door for Rashad to say Jones is ducking him.

It's not like Rashad deliberated for a week and then said fuck it I'll fight Davis. Almost as soon as it was announced Jones was hurt, Davis was put in his place. So what option to wait and fight was he given?

I personally don't believe anyone who fights for a living would duck anyone else, but when you read the excuses that Jones and his manager give it leaves openings.
This is all I'm saying...so what I did it in character? So what I'm choosing to connect the dots and draw(not jump, doofus) the conclusion that Jones isn't ready to have some gaping holes exposed by a former teammate?
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Show me an article that says Rashad had the option to wait and I'll believe you.

Without that all I can go on is the shit Dana's given Rashad in the past about sitting out and believe that Rashad didn't really have a choice.
A lil harder to find than I thought, I think you went and deleted it...
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A lil harder to find than I thought, I think you went and deleted it...
Ha! I sent an email to Google to see if they would help me out. Apparently they listened.... or he never said it (sorry couldn't resist that last jab). I'm telling you man, Dana wasn't letting him out of that main event and with Dana owning MMA now, being on his shit list really isn't a good idea.

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This is all I'm saying...so what I did it in character? So what I'm choosing to connect the dots and draw(not jump, doofus) the conclusion that Jones isn't ready to have some gaping holes exposed by a former teammate?
I'm on your side man (minus the ducking part, but I know that was more joking than serious). Why the hostility?






No matter what side any of us falls on this, I think we can all thank God that this isn't like the Sherdog forums... or even the TPWW wrestling forums for that matter.
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No hostility bro... Just mini ranting. And you're right! Viva MMA FORUM
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lol @ this whole thread. Rashad didn't want to fight his "friend" and teammate and Jon Jones said he'd be open to fighting anybody, even Rashad or anybody else from that camp. Rashad got mad and started throwing low blows @ Jones and left the camp. Jones isn't ducking anybody, the injuries were real, and Rashad was put into another fight because that's what they always do when somebody is unable to fight. Dana White gave the title shot to Rampage because Rashad apparently was taking too long procrastinating the fight. So if anything it was Rashad ducking moreso than Jon Jones. Don't believe anything that douche agent says, unless you hear it from the Champ himself, Jon "Bones" Jones.
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lol @ this whole thread. Rashad didn't want to fight his "friend" and teammate and Jon Jones said he'd be open to fighting anybody, even Rashad or anybody else from that camp. Rashad got mad and started throwing low blows @ Jones and left the camp. Jones isn't ducking anybody, the injuries were real, and Rashad was put into another fight because that's what they always do when somebody is unable to fight. Dana White gave the title shot to Rampage because Rashad apparently was taking too long procrastinating the fight. So if anything it was Rashad ducking moreso than Jon Jones. Don't believe anything that douche agent says, unless you hear it from the Champ himself, Jon "Bones" Jones.
Lol@this post
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although naturally if he'd have agreed with you, you'd be thanking him and singing his praises
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although naturally if he'd have agreed with you, you'd be thanking him and singing his praises
And NATURALLY, you add nothing of value to the thread. Its been three pages since you put some dumb pictures up, why not try your luck on google?
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the gall you have to claim that somebody else is adding nothing of value to the thread after your 'performance' in here is truly astounding.
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