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Old 07-03-2011, 05:50 PM   #161
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lol what are you yapping on about? Are you just typing random words and posting them? Because the fact you're still referencing the very first post I made in this thread just tells me that you have absolutely nothing else of value to say (how surprising)

And of course Rashad could very well beat Phil Davis, I'd pick him to win. And whatever you say buddy. You still seem to think this is something to do with myself and others hating on Rashad. Which couldn't be further from the truth, it's simply a case of finding your "factual" posts and arguments with no variety of actual evidence in this thread to be ridiculous.
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Old 07-03-2011, 11:58 PM   #162
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Krimzon, this thread is a bit silly. Jon Bones is quickly becoming one of the most feared guys in the sport. He isn't going to duck anybody.
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Old 07-04-2011, 11:55 PM   #163
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CSL, The fact that I'm referencing your first response is a testament that you've literally added nothing of value since before that post.

Narc, if you took the time to read the thread which I: A)seriously doubt, and B) would admonish the shit out of you for doing, then you would know that I'm being utterly assinine in responding to CSL. Do I think Bones is a phenom? Yes. Do I think Rashad Can beat him? YES. Do I think Jones would duck him? no. Do I think Rashad could expose a weakness in JJ's game that nobody else has? YES. Do I think Dana White would rather have anyone else fight for a belt than Evans? yup. Was the chain of events fishy, questionable, and simply an example of MMA angents not evolving as fast as the sport whom fighters they represent? EXACTLY. Can I have fun with it? FUCKING RIGHT I CAN. Can CSL have his opinion? yup Do I have a right to fuck with him if he is a ridiculous enough cunt to follow me down the rabbit hole? yup. Can he fuck off? damn right.
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This thread has officially come full circle now. I think we've killed this topic, buried it, dug it back up, fucked it and buried it again.
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Pretty much, this may be thread of the year...circa 2005. It jest won't die!
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Old 08-07-2011, 10:33 AM   #168
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But Rashad beat a washed up Tito....that most of you all picked to win!

That fact alone validates that most of you guys don't know what the hell is going on in a fight.
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unbelievably disrespectful that so many here picked Tito to win. (would they have put money on it? that is another story.) but that is just par for the course. people are just gonna hate on Rashad no matter what. so fuck it.
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Old 08-07-2011, 12:42 PM   #171
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I see Tito getting out wrestled and prolly ktfo..
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I see Tito getting out wrestled and prolly ktfo..
Out wrestled, out struck, out jiu jitsed(just made this up), then KTFO.
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Yeah most people did but not all. I could see Rashad winning, I picked him to win, I just picked the wrong method based on how he usually fights. I didn't anticipate that knee to the sternum before the end of round 2.

Rashad is immensely talented no doubt. But one of the reasons for the hate on Rashad is the nut huggers that see him doing no wrong. Yeah Rashad wins fights. Some of them he wins in a very impressive fashion. But when you have people riding him constantly as if he is just the perfect gift to MMA... thats when things go awry. And then there is also his mouth, his antics, and disrespect for people. Tito changed, somewhat, and that got some people looking at him differently. Tito became humble, again somewhat, and that changed perspectives. Rashad? Doesn't seem to have much of that at all.

But when the fans go on and on about him... that hurts. Just like the Fedor nut huggers. Am I a fan of Fedor? Yeah. But I'm not gonna dedicate threads to his greatness and how some guy is ducking him cause of one fight being cancelled.

Nut hugging fans cause hate on fighters. But when those fighters don't show much respect, that in itself goes a long way towards that hate despite how talented they maybe.
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But Rashad beat a washed up Tito....that most of you all picked to win!

That fact alone validates that most of you guys don't know what the hell is going on in a fight.
lol bless, how many people do you think had Tito because they were pulling for him to win as opposed to actually believing with any kind of certainty that he would?
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lol bless, how many people do you think had Tito because they were pulling for him to win as opposed to actually believing with any kind of certainty that he would?
Is this your way of escaping the fact that you were wrong? Fuck semantics. Just own it, with out any of your daft maneuverings to escape this reality.
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lol it's tipsters, be it wrestling or MMA, it happens plenty because (for me personally) quite often I go with what I want to happen or "the unpopular choice" especially in the big fights because if it pays off, I score and nobody else does. But yeah, I'm trying to escape being wrong in this hugely important competition, not like I was retweeting 'my heart says Tito, my head says Rashad' hours before the fight or anything
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...right, more justification...
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Yeah most people did but not all. I could see Rashad winning, I picked him to win, I just picked the wrong method based on how he usually fights. I didn't anticipate that knee to the sternum before the end of round 2.

Rashad is immensely talented no doubt. But one of the reasons for the hate on Rashad is the nut huggers that see him doing no wrong. Yeah Rashad wins fights. Some of them he wins in a very impressive fashion. But when you have people riding him constantly as if he is just the perfect gift to MMA... thats when things go awry. And then there is also his mouth, his antics, and disrespect for people. Tito changed, somewhat, and that got some people looking at him differently. Tito became humble, again somewhat, and that changed perspectives. Rashad? Doesn't seem to have much of that at all.

But when the fans go on and on about him... that hurts. Just like the Fedor nut huggers. Am I a fan of Fedor? Yeah. But I'm not gonna dedicate threads to his greatness and how some guy is ducking him cause of one fight being cancelled.

Nut hugging fans cause hate on fighters. But when those fighters don't show much respect, that in itself goes a long way towards that hate despite how talented they maybe.
i dont mean no disrespect, and i'm not looking to take you to task here, but your post (your rationale) doesnt hold water. the hate came way before the "nut-huggers." most pro-Rashad or what you may consider "nut-hugger" threads or thoughts, are IMO, a backlash against the mostly unwarranted hate.

consistantly, people state a beleif (whether it be emotional or genuine) that Rashad Evans will lose most of his fights - and he's only ever lost one. you would have to think that at some point [in the past] Rashad would have stopped being the underdog in every single fight - especially against a guy like Tito - especially considering who Rashad has beaten and how.

then, people say that Rashad talks too much shit. i honestly dont do twitter and stuff, but from what i've seen on UFC productions, the guy doesnt really talk any more shit than the next guy - apart from the whole...manufactured black on black fued or whatever with Rampage. generally, everybody says that they're going to beat up their opponent.

antics? please. it's not like he pretends to bury his opponent after he wins. and the "monkey-dance cage entrance"...fucking rules.

please consider that you dont have to be a fanatic [nut hugger] to recognize a flaw in popular thinking and speak up on it. most fans that i know who dislike Rashad, have disliked him since day one (i.e. the day that Matt Hughes said he acted like a jackass. this was when Matt Hughes was at the top of the sport, btw. and for a lot of people, that was all it took. and then they dont even consider for a second how he has improved and evolved or the unbelievable amount of hard work and commitment.

now i can see people not liking Rashad's style. there are plenty of [popular] fighters who i dont get excited for based on the typical dynamics of their fights - Randy Couture, for example. with Rashad, for some reason, the hate seems to be deep-seeded and unshakable.

anyway, you couldnt have really asked for more from him in last nights fight against Tito, other than a top tier opponent, yet, remarkably, a lot of people still picked Rashad to lose.
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lol it's tipsters, be it wrestling or MMA, it happens plenty because (for me personally) quite often I go with what I want to happen or "the unpopular choice" especially in the big fights because if it pays off, I score and nobody else does. But yeah, I'm trying to escape being wrong in this hugely important competition, not like I was retweeting 'my heart says Tito, my head says Rashad' hours before the fight or anything
Don't you dare talk down about Tipsters. Leave Tipsters out of this.
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Dude he's grasping for excuses!
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lol I'm fully down with the tipsters, it's one of those "community" events that have been good across various forums, it's just unfortunate Krimzon7 see's it as an indication of his own imaginary superiority/that everybody else puts as much stock into it as he appears to

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Oh absolutely! I've got a UFC 133 tipsters belt being made right now. I take this so seriously!

I just can't wait to see what unfolds over the fall...this sets up some serious hype!
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i dont mean no disrespect, and i'm not looking to take you to task here, but your post (your rationale) doesnt hold water. the hate came way before the "nut-huggers." most pro-Rashad or what you may consider "nut-hugger" threads or thoughts, are IMO, a backlash against the mostly unwarranted hate.

consistantly, people state a beleif (whether it be emotional or genuine) that Rashad Evans will lose most of his fights - and he's only ever lost one. you would have to think that at some point [in the past] Rashad would have stopped being the underdog in every single fight - especially against a guy like Tito - especially considering who Rashad has beaten and how.

then, people say that Rashad talks too much shit. i honestly dont do twitter and stuff, but from what i've seen on UFC productions, the guy doesnt really talk any more shit than the next guy - apart from the whole...manufactured black on black fued or whatever with Rampage. generally, everybody says that they're going to beat up their opponent.

antics? please. it's not like he pretends to bury his opponent after he wins. and the "monkey-dance cage entrance"...fucking rules.

please consider that you dont have to be a fanatic [nut hugger] to recognize a flaw in popular thinking and speak up on it. most fans that i know who dislike Rashad, have disliked him since day one (i.e. the day that Matt Hughes said he acted like a jackass. this was when Matt Hughes was at the top of the sport, btw. and for a lot of people, that was all it took. and then they dont even consider for a second how he has improved and evolved or the unbelievable amount of hard work and commitment.

now i can see people not liking Rashad's style. there are plenty of [popular] fighters who i dont get excited for based on the typical dynamics of their fights - Randy Couture, for example. with Rashad, for some reason, the hate seems to be deep-seeded and unshakable.

anyway, you couldnt have really asked for more from him in last nights fight against Tito, other than a top tier opponent, yet, remarkably, a lot of people still picked Rashad to lose.
In my defense I was talking in brash generalizations and nothing really too specific. Cause I'm more of the kind of watcher that appreciates talent and won't hate on a fighter cause some other fighter says he is a jackass or other people don't like him.

People are gonna hate for whatever reason there is and there are plenty of reasons people are going to come up with to hate on a fighter. Even if they have to make them up and the "nut huggers" are part of the reasons for some. I mean look at college football... although those you would call "diehard fans" instead of "nut huggers" but that's where I was getting at with that description.

So yeah... no harm done.
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I'm just glad this thread has reached a conclusion.
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Old 09-25-2011, 12:22 AM   #185
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The fun here has only just begun. Wait till they set a date for the match. Wonder what big time scandal Jon Jones's agent is going to cause for this fight.
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Old 09-25-2011, 01:49 PM   #187
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I can not wait for this fight.
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who was it agreed to my $100 bet vs rashad? i feel like it was instant classic or someone else beginning with i like impact or something. can't find the post now.
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Rashad has been working with Tyrone Spong, I wonder if his strategy for the Jones fight will be to kick the shit out of Jon's skinny ass legs the first few rounds. I don't see Rashad trying to stand and trade with Jones, and I don't see Jones trying to go to the ground with Rashad. Seems like peppering him with kicks to the legs might be the most effective way to beat him.
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Rashad is gonna be made to look silly when the fight happens. Jones has a nack of doing this to fighters people think are good.

and i was not impressed with Jones win over rampage. Rampage should of hung up his gloves couple years back. All he has now is punching power and in his last couple of losses its shows that just having punching power is not gonna cut it against the elite. have to be well rounded and show different things or you will just get picked apart like he did. Only thing he can do now is hype a fight and sell some ppv's .. but that will go away soon too with his career.
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Well, he was a sitting duck for Jon jones. That prowling shit jones pulled to start the fight looked too much like Evans. One of the only people at LHW who can match JJ's athletic ability is Evans.
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Actually agree with Krimson. Rashad Evans is lighting quick and he's only getting better. I'm not going to sit here and go on a tangent about how Evans is going to beat Jones and Jones ducked Evans because I don't think he did, I think he just has poor PR himself and has bad PR people (Malki Kawa is a fucking idiot). At the end of the day, Rampage is slow and plodding, and aside from that big punch which is nullified by reach, offered nothing to beat Jones. Whereas when we last saw Rashad albeit against Tito, he was a fucking mauler. He was lean and mean and moved like fucking lighting. We can say it was Tito, but in all his losses aside from being k.o.ed by Chuck, he did not get dominated like he did against Rashad. IMO his speed could allow him to shoot on Jones, and also get inside that gangly reach and land some of that hard strinking we know he's capable of landing.

I still think Bones should win, but to count Rashad out at this point of all of us keeping up with MMA would be absolutely ridiciulous.
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Bones looked like he had the beginnings of a pretty fucking solid clinch in that Rampage fight. That's scary when added to all of his other attributes. I learned a long time ago not to bet against Rashad but I might actually do it this time around. Jones is a genetic freak, has a fighter's mind, is unorthodox as shit, is extremely athletic, can learn complex ideas very quickly, can hit like a truck, can mitigate damage efficiently, and is very hard to get away from in the octagon.

I'm taking Jones by KO in round 3.
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Bones looked like he had the beginnings of a pretty fucking solid clinch in that Rampage fight. That's scary when added to all of his other attributes. I learned a long time ago not to bet against Rashad but I might actually do it this time around. Jones is a genetic freak, has a fighter's mind, is unorthodox as shit, is extremely athletic, can learn complex ideas very quickly, can hit like a truck, can mitigate damage efficiently, and is very hard to get away from in the octagon.

I'm taking Jones by KO in round 3.
The only time I ever bet against 'Shad was the Machida fight. People jumped on me when I said he was gonna die, in the metaphorical sense. Then, when I explained the reason, it made sense.

Now, for this fight, I expect to count the footprints from where Bones walks over him.
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Actually agree with Krimson. Rashad Evans is lighting quick and he's only getting better. I'm not going to sit here and go on a tangent about how Evans is going to beat Jones and Jones ducked Evans because I don't think he did, I think he just has poor PR himself and has bad PR people (Malki Kawa is a fucking idiot). At the end of the day, Rampage is slow and plodding, and aside from that big punch which is nullified by reach, offered nothing to beat Jones. Whereas when we last saw Rashad albeit against Tito, he was a fucking mauler. He was lean and mean and moved like fucking lighting. We can say it was Tito, but in all his losses aside from being k.o.ed by Chuck, he did not get dominated like he did against Rashad. IMO his speed could allow him to shoot on Jones, and also get inside that gangly reach and land some of that hard strinking we know he's capable of landing.

I still think Bones should win, but to count Rashad out at this point of all of us keeping up with MMA would be absolutely ridiciulous.
Thank you for your opinion...I'm not going to go back into the CSL shit, but my last post was serious. Not discounting any of jones' talents, but we saw a different Rashad Evans in his last fight. I am amped for this fight, I want to see how Jon jones looks defending, off his back, countering, instead of dictating range, pace, and location of a fight. Nobody has attempted to blitz him. Perhaps because nobody can close distance. Let's see how the kid reacts and let's enjoy this fight!
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The fun here has only just begun. Wait till they set a date for the match. Wonder what big time scandal Jon Jones's agent is going to cause for this fight.
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And the fight is delayed again. Evans' hand is still injured from the Ortiz fight, so Jones will be fighting Machida in Toronto.
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Gonna be an interesting fight. My brother is convinced that the only guy who "has a key for that lame ass riddle" is Machida, what with the timing and his own trickiness. I'm sure it'll be a great fight, nonetheless.
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Way better fight than Cuba Jr.
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