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Old 05-30-2016, 11:06 PM   #321
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More or less when people ignore things just to make their points. Then again, by the MLB thread this isn't suprising. Either way, thanks for the discussion.
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Old 05-30-2016, 11:06 PM   #322
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Damien the issue with your cyclops "lack of motive" is it is the inly motive he ever had. He had uncontrollable powers that needed to be controlled so goes to the only people who can help him. Hes a natural leader and when shit hits the fan he dives in to help others. What more is there to Scott Summers?
But he wasn't a natural leader here when shit hit the fan. He just tagged along. He definitely dove in. But I just wanted more from him. Like they gave us with Jean and Peter.
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Old 05-30-2016, 11:09 PM   #323
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More or less when people ignore things just to make their points. Then again, by the MLB thread this isn't suprising. Either way, thanks for the discussion.
What point am I ignoring here? You claimed he wanted revenge. Your backup to this is because his brother died. But you present nothing else? He didn't even know Apocalypse or that he was responsible for his death. Never mentioned or acknowledged. So I'm curious as to what part I'm skipping over here.

Perhaps you enjoyed the movie so you're willing to ignore things that have been commonly cited by the majority of reviews that have deemed the film mediocre? That's fine, you know.
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Old 05-31-2016, 09:47 AM   #324
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But he wasn't a natural leader here when shit hit the fan. He just tagged along. He definitely dove in. But I just wanted more from him. Like they gave us with Jean and Peter.
He's my fav X-man so I will always want more from him
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Old 05-31-2016, 09:58 AM   #325
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He's my fav X-man so I will always want more from him
I always considered him absolutely boring. Until he turned all mutant terrorist, loved that and just couldn't get enough of him. It was a fantastic idea turning the biggest boyscout into the biggest enemy of humans.
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I always considered him absolutely boring. Until he turned all mutant terrorist, loved that and just couldn't get enough of him. It was a fantastic idea turning the biggest boyscout into the biggest enemy of humans.
I always gravitate to the leader types. Cyclops, Leonardo, Captian America, etc. I do love the darker take on him in recent decades though, it feels liek a logical progression after decades of racism.
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Also random pet peev: people out running his optic blasts. or more accurately people strafing past his optic blasts. Completely illogical. If he can see you he can hit you. you arent going to dodge his blasts with out super speed.
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Old 06-04-2016, 01:31 AM   #328
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Had a great time. L8ved everything about the final battle and how it ended.

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those fucking uniforms at the end....classic mystique and nightcrawler, jim lee cyclops. So fucking hype
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Just seen it. I thought it was ok but nothing great. 6/10
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I fucking loved this movie. It's the most 'X-Men' movie of the series.

Not dismissing issues with how hollow it is compared to the contemplative tone of the past films as per Singers pedigree, but fancy this:

A major theme of this film is letting loose/full potential. It's a theme shared between the heroes and villains. I believe it is the goal of this very movie.

For over 15yrs Singer and this series has told mostly quiet, introspective stories of mutants with your requisite action sequences. This is the first film, at least by Singer himself, to go balls out. This was celebration of the FoX-Men verse in a way that nods to literally all previous films while effortlessly apologizing for X3 and Origins Wolverine in two of the three standout sequences.

The third show stealer? Holy fuck, Quicksilver.

I'd like to highlight the new Storm especially. Halle Barry wasn't an 'RDJ/Stark' kinda match to begin with, but this girl with the little she got to do IS Storm. I want more of her.

Apocalypse was great. A living god who didn't get beaten by some lame ex machina; knowing who was involved the answer was clear. But hell if he wasn't just an epic presence. "Undefined powers" whatever: The fact that we don't know what he gathered over thousands of years is a part of the horror. What, he's supposed to list his abilities off?

I dunno, I'm not gonna say this was Civil War good and I probably still rate X2 and Days over this, but thus was a fun, epic, X-Men movie with both a sense of closure and a promising future.
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The explanation of his abiguous power set was fine by me don't see the beef some people had with it.

I'm also glad they didn't beat apocalypse through some loophole, but by pouring everything they had and more, into him.
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Guys,

I had a question about when X-Men I took place? (storyline wise). I realize that the movie took place in 2000 but if I recall correctly, the movie said something to the effect of, "in the not-so-distant future," (meaning, that perhaps the 'story' of X-Men may have taken place sometime between 2010-2015?).

Anyone know?

The reason why I ask is this: The next X-men movie (non-Wolverine Swan Song) is slated to take place in the 1990's. However - if the new 'cast' still looks noticeably younger than the cast that acted in the original X-Men, I think it will just make the whole thing look unrealistic?

However - if the next movie (storylines) takes place in say....1990, while X-Men I's storyline took place circa 2010-2015, then it makes things a bit more realistic in terms of how the characters looked/aged.
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The explanation of his abiguous power set was fine by me don't see the beef some people had with it.

I'm also glad they didn't beat apocalypse through some loophole, but by pouring everything they had and more, into him.
I think the Apocalypse job may have been used to highlight just how powerful Jean Grey really is. While it took all of the other X-Men combined just to hold Apocalypse at Bay, Jean Grey made relatively quick work of Apocalypse. I think there are major things in store for Jean Grey's character in future movies.

p.s.___________For the record, I absolutely loved the movie.
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Guys,

I had a question about when X-Men I took place? (storyline wise). I realize that the movie took place in 2000 but if I recall correctly, the movie said something to the effect of, "in the not-so-distant future," (meaning, that perhaps the 'story' of X-Men may have taken place sometime between 2010-2015?).

Anyone know?

The reason why I ask is this: The next X-men movie (non-Wolverine Swan Song) is slated to take place in the 1990's. However - if the new 'cast' still looks noticeably younger than the cast that acted in the original X-Men, I think it will just make the whole thing look unrealistic?

However - if the next movie (storylines) takes place in say....1990, while X-Men I's storyline took place circa 2010-2015, then it makes things a bit more realistic in terms of how the characters looked/aged.
You're worried about the X-Men franchise looking realistic!?

Anywho, I believe the general rule is after the events of DOFP, we now have 2 timelines; one which has continued with Apocolpyse, the other is the original trilogy. So the Storm/Jean/Cyclops/etc. in the latest movie doesn't become the Equivalent from the original X-Men movie, i.e. Storm was born later/earlier in one time time compared to the other.

Doesn't explain how Havoc can be 20 years older than his brother and not appeared to have aged since the 1960s.
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You're worried about the X-Men franchise looking realistic!?

Anywho, I believe the general rule is after the events of DOFP, we now have 2 timelines; one which has continued with Apocolpyse, the other is the original trilogy. So the Storm/Jean/Cyclops/etc. in the latest movie doesn't become the Equivalent from the original X-Men movie, i.e. Storm was born later/earlier in one time time compared to the other.

Doesn't explain how Havoc can be 20 years older than his brother and not appeared to have aged since the 1960s.
Fair enough.

"Realistic" may not have been the right term to use, but still. Guys like Magneto and Charles were born at the same time in both timelines (i.e. new Charles in the 1980's would have been the same age as the original Charles in the 80's in the original timeline).

That's why I ask - approximately what year did the Original X-Men take place (i.e. 'filmed in 2000 but with the disclaimer, "In the not-so-distant future."). Are we talking 2010? 2015?

It's a minor issue, but it will just be slightly weird to me if the "new" Magneto and Charles still look fairly young in the next movie (1990's), relative to how the original Charles and Magneto looked in the original X-Men (circa 2010-2015?).

It's a minor detail, but whatever. I think the entire series is awesome regardless.
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Do you want silly ass age make-up on Havok and such? No we don't.
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True, but I don't want new Charles and new Magneto looking almost the exact same way in the 1990's, as they did in X-Men: First Class (1960's)........or significantly younger than the Charles/Magneto of the original X-Men circa 2010-2015.

It's a minor detail, but I won't be too upset if the issue isn't addressed.
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I think the Apocalypse job may have been used to highlight just how powerful Jean Grey really is. While it took all of the other X-Men combined just to hold Apocalypse at Bay, Jean Grey made relatively quick work of Apocalypse. I think there are major things in store for Jean Grey's character in future movies.

p.s.___________For the record, I absolutely loved the movie.
In the comics, the x-men go to space every other weekend. We haven't seen that yet in the movies, so perhaps the phoenix plot leads us there in the next film.

Apocalypse gets his tech from the celestials in the books, but perhaps here its from the Shiar, and the phoenix destroying their evolutionary caretaker gets their attention and brings the story to the cosmos. Shiar are also closely tied to the phoenix in the books.
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In the comics, the x-men go to space every other weekend. We haven't seen that yet in the movies, so perhaps the phoenix plot leads us there in the next film.

Apocalypse gets his tech from the celestials in the books, but perhaps here its from the Shiar, and the phoenix destroying their evolutionary caretaker gets their attention and brings the story to the cosmos. Shiar are also closely tied to the phoenix in the books.
kk.

I'm very excited about the next X-Men movies (Wolverine's swan song, and the 1990's movie). Will be interesting to see Weapon X/heel Wolverine go up against everyone (if I understand the post-credits scene correctly, I think that's how they'll play it? Stryker and Essex Corp unleashes Weapon X?).
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If I had to guess, I'd say it's going to be X-23 that mr sinister creates with the blood.

It's been all but confirmed that the story is based on Old Man Logan. Go read it. Doesn't matter if you don't typically read comics. It's one of those books that trancends the usual fanfase and can be enjoyed by everyone.
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@Heyman I think the problem is that you're overthinking the whole 'in the not-to-distant future' thing. The film was released in 2000, but seeing as how they only had all the same technology of the day, I'd have guessed that that movie is set in 2001 or 2002 or something.

It's not really something I'd have thought anyone would concern themselves over.
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@Heyman I think the problem is that you're overthinking the whole 'in the not-to-distant future' thing. The film was released in 2000, but seeing as how they only had all the same technology of the day, I'd have guessed that that movie is set in 2001 or 2002 or something.

It's not really something I'd have thought anyone would concern themselves over.
Yeah, like I said, it's not too big a deal. I just think it will be a bit odd to see Magneto and Xavier looking "so young" in this new 1990's, and yet extremely geriatric looking in the original 2001-2002 timeline.

The only person in the world that I've seen age that much in a 12 year time span, is David Flair.
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Old 06-17-2016, 01:37 AM   #343
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If I had to guess, I'd say it's going to be X-23 that mr sinister creates with the blood.

It's been all but confirmed that the story is based on Old Man Logan. Go read it. Doesn't matter if you don't typically read comics. It's one of those books that trancends the usual fanfase and can be enjoyed by everyone.
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Finally saw this movie.... Like most of the X-Men films it was "alright" but nothing great.

I like how Magneto kills probably millions of people worldwide, but then at the end seems to be "let free" because Moira told the gov't how he helped stop Apocalypse. I mean, that's all well and good, but when it comes down to it, Magneto murdered a whole lot more people than Apocalypse did in this movie.....

Again was "disappointed" at them "sampling" the music from the original X-Men Trilogy and not "sampling" the music from First Class, which had an amazing score.... but I completely understand why they do that....
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On the subject of giving the X-Men "character development", I like how they did it First Class.... felt like each member of that team had development and whatnot via a couple of quick scenes of them just hanging out, and also via training montage.....

First Class still the best film of the franchise..... In my opinion......
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Old 09-01-2016, 11:39 PM   #346
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rewatched this 7 times already. can't fucking believe how cool quicksilver is in those movies. he kinda sucks in the books, but here he always steals the show.
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Old 09-10-2016, 05:57 PM   #347
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I thought this was trash, I was shocked by how stupid it was, especially seeing as Days of Future Past was a really good movie. But I guess this is more "comic booky", so I could see enjoying this if you are into that stuff.
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Old 09-10-2016, 09:59 PM   #348
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I found it very mediocre. DoFP might be one of my top 5 comic movies. Love it every time I see it.
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I just re-watched this movie again the other day.

Initially after watching at the drive-in I was a bit let down. I still thought it was good but I felt that it was odd this is the movie they made to follow up on Days of Future's Past.

I think it may have been more benefitial to pickup where Days of Future Past left off with Wolverine snapping back to a new reality where the original cast of actors/characters (using the original Professor X, Cyclops, Jean Grey, Storm, Wolverine) are still alive and to then give them all a better send off than "The Last Stand". Even to put a final nail in that coffin and have Apocalypse defeat them and then set up another timeline shift that brings us back to the 80's with the new X-Men cast (McAvoy, Fassbender, Lawrence, Cyc, Jean Grey) to stop Apocalypse before he rises/has time to amass too much power.

Could even fix some timeline issues with bringing certain characters back to the past (Archangel), or sending IceMan to the past to correspond to the comics more and giving a couple more years for some of the new cast to age appropriately.

I just thought it was weird how at Days of Future's Past they teased a return of the old cast but then went in an entirely new direction for the sequel.

also Apocalypse should have had a better costume design and look.
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You basically pitched an AoA movie that we will never ever get to see outside of a full reboot which we technically already got.
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As much as I loved this movie, it would have been awesome if they did one more movie with the original cast.
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As much as I loved this movie, it would have been awesome if they did one more movie with the original cast.
Definitely, I am wondering if that is possibly why this movie got mixed reviews because it was not quite what people wanted at the time.

The second time I re-watched it and understood there would be no original cast of characters to further establish that new reality of DOFP I enjoyed this movie a hell of a lot more.
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You basically pitched an AoA movie that we will never ever get to see outside of a full reboot which we technically already got.
I still have hope.
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Old 09-27-2016, 02:12 AM   #356
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Honestly, the whole thing would have worked much better as a two-parter.
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