Official RAW Thread for 03/01/10 - Bret Farewell 3: With a Vengeance

[MrMyc]

Bats almost let out a "It doesn't matter what you think" there.

[Volchok]

This is awesome.

[Loose Cannon]

fuckin A

[Favre4Ever]

Man that was good.

[CSL]

I'm guessing not so many of you will mind now when they go on last @ Mania

[Emperor Smeat]

Amazing promo.

[Nark Order]

What a program this has the potential to be. Mother of god.

[Sixx]

Cena working the stick...

Hehe.

[DaVe]

Nice.

[screech]

That was a terrific promo.

[Johnny Vegas]

Thats a smooth ass vest to that Bats had on :y:

[ClockShot]

Cena silenced. When was the last time that happened?

Damn fine promo.

[Corndad]

That was a hell of a promo.

[Emperor Smeat]

I'm late to this party why is Batista now Mad Max?

Maybe he mistook Arizona for Australia :shifty:

[Loose Cannon]

I'm guessing not so many of you will mind now when they go on last @ Mania

like I said, if Taker is peciled in to beat Shawn, then I have no problem

[KIRA]

did they dig up the chris warren band to re-remix the dx theme

[CSL]

What I love about this promo is how true/legit it is in some sense, and it's such a black/white good guy/bad guy clear cut line...without it being 80s cheesy.

That's as simple as wrestling ever has to be.

[Loose Cannon]

Mad Max is awesome as well

[Juan]

did they dig up the chris warren band to re-remix the dx theme

Yeah they did.

[Providence Peep]

I know I said this before, but I really hope The Moondogs are inducted into the Hall of Fame.

As far as the Cena/Batista promo, no one can honestly deny that Cena doesn't give 200% to the world of Sports Entertainment.

[Nark Order]

What I love about this promo is how true/legit it is in some sense, and it's such a black/white good guy/bad guy clear cut line...without it being 80s cheesy.

But like most well developed bad guys, you can kind of see where Bats is coming from. Everyone can relate to working your ass off and not being noticed enough at a job or team of some sort.

[KIRA]

Chavo!

[Loose Cannon]

hey, did they announce the new HOF guy yet?

[ClockShot]

That's the best they can do for Katie Lea.

She should just cut and run.

[Nark Order]

What?

[CSL]

I guess Vince really does love cocks

[Juan]

Zack Ryder!!

[RGWhat316]

Yes! Lets get Ryder in MITB!

[Poit]

Crunchy tuna roll?

[RawRocks]

Between Justin Bieber and this guy named Jake... this has been a strange day on twitter.

[Nark Order]

Zach Rider is jobbing.

[screech]

That's the best they can do for Katie Lea.

She should just cut and run.

Seriously

[Poit]

OH RADIO

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Dammit :( Ryder's gonna job.</font>

[RGWhat316]

Poor Katie. Another real wrestler forced to do stupid crap.

[Juan]

Zach Rider is jobbing.

They can't both win

[KIRA]

Think MVP is going over Ryder....still nice to see Zack on RAW

[Nark Order]

I've lost all the interest I once had in MVP.

[Juan]

Dammit Narc

[RGWhat316]

Really?

[theexample]

Another MITB squash?

[CSL]

Who did Zach Ryder annoy?

[Favre4Ever]

these MITB qualifier matches have been fucking squashes.

[parkmania]

So neither of the MitB qualifiers were competitive matches? Ridic.

[Poit]

Not only did Ryder lose, he lost to the Playmaker. :nono:

[CSL]

I've lost all the interest I once had in MVP.

Yeah he has this uncanny ability to vary from crock of shit to passable every week

[Nark Order]

Gail Kim is horrifically ugly.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>The second I saw Ryder was going to "sign" with Raw, I groaned. Knew he was gonna be relegated big time, much like 90% of the midcarders on Raw.</font>

[theexample]

Have those qualifiers lasted a minute combined?

[parkmania]

Boo to the PG era. Pillow fights should be REQUIRED BY LAW to be lingerie only.

[RGWhat316]

Nearly everyone that comes over from ECW in the past year have for the most part been buried, so I shouldnt be surpised.

[KIRA]

Does the fact that I'd rather see more wrestling than this pillowfight mean I should be questioning my sexual orientation

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>There has been even less wrestling on Raw this week than last week.</font> :o

[Favre4Ever]

Yeah he has this uncanny ability to vary from crock of shit to passable every week

It's the fallacy of face MVP. Someone has to make it stop.

[KIRA]

Gail Kim is horrifically ugly.
blasphemy!

[Nark Order]

Like unthinkably ugly to me. Dunno.

[CSL]

<font color=goldenrod>There has been even less wrestling on Raw this week than last week.</font> :o

Providing no swerves etc, the tag match should get some time. Wouldn't bank on it though.

[RawRocks]

what is it with Divas, the Guest Host and these weird time wasters every week. :nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono:

Jerry Springer: No comment :wtf:
Ty Murray: Bull-Riding Contest
Cheech and Chong: Pillow fight

[Favre4Ever]

theme song is so bad for 'Mania.

[Nark Order]

Like for every time I accidentally look at her face, I feel I need to punish myself by punching my own face in the... face.

[parkmania]

At least the segments have been shorter than the Jerry Springer episode.

[KIRA]

I cant decide what I hate more the NXT theme the RAW theme or The current WM theme

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>CM Punk needs to SAVE THIS SEGMENT!</font>

[Favre4Ever]

He looks like Super Mario.

[Poit]

<font color=goldenrod>CM Punk needs to SAVE THIS SEGMENT!</font>

We can only hope.

[Nark Order]

CM Punk needs to SAVE THIS SEGMENT!

LOL. That would be amazing.

[RGWhat316]

Yeah where is Punk for this? And "Welcome to the World" sounded better than this other WM song.

[jettson80]

80% of the crowd has no idea who these guys are, i bet

[CSL]

Maryse Maryse Maryse Maryse Maryse Maryse Maryse Maryse Maryse Maryse Maryse Maryse Maryse Maryse Maryse Maryse Maryse Maryse Maryse Maryse Maryse Maryse Maryse Maryse Maryse Maryse Maryse Maryse Maryse Maryse Maryse Maryse Maryse Maryse Maryse Maryse Maryse Maryse Maryse Maryse Maryse Maryse Maryse Maryse Maryse Maryse Maryse Maryse Maryse Maryse Maryse Maryse Maryse Maryse Maryse Maryse Maryse Maryse Maryse Maryse Maryse Maryse Maryse Maryse Maryse Maryse Maryse Maryse Maryse

[parkmania]

Hello Kitty!

[Juan]

"here come the other ones!"

[Favre4Ever]

god Maryse:love:.

[Innovator]

Holy crap Maryse

[CSL]

scoreeee

[Nark Order]

They would be ridiculous not to bring Punk out for this.

And then Mysterio can save his fellow Mexicans.

Perfect. COME ON.

[ClockShot]

How'd this segment get on this late?

[RGWhat316]

Damn, go Jillian.

[jerichoholicninja]

No reaction and the crowd is sitting down. Please take the hint Vince.

[ClockShot]

Throw some rocks and bricks and those pillow cases and this would be 100x more enjoyable.

[Innovator]

oh come on Maryse

[CSL]

This has already had more time and nearfalls than MVP/Ryder and Santino/Swagger. Combined even.

[Innovator]

putting your hands up for a fucking pillow

[TheFallenOneX]

I wanna see Awesome Kong come out and destory them all

[RawRocks]

Throw some rocks and bricks and those pillow cases and this would be 100x more enjoyable.

:lol::lol::lol:

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>lol @ Maryse rolling off the cover on her own when Gail didn't break the pin in time</font>

[parkmania]

So Gail Kim is the only one wearing actual shoes?

[RGWhat316]

This actually looks kind of dangerous with some of them not wearing shoes.

[Nark Order]

Eve. What a huge bitch.

[Favre4Ever]

BAH GAWD SWOG

[theexample]

No Michael Cole. That WASN'T an awesome match.

[Loose Cannon]

who's this Eve? very hot

[Innovator]

The cereal is magical...yet upoened

[RawRocks]

cereal fight

[Loose Cannon]

HERE WE GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[CSL]

Hearing Michael Cole say 'Will you stop' makes me wanna cry

[Poit]

... are they seriously throwing cereal at the crowd?

[Juan]

So Gail Kim is the only one wearing actual shoes?

Makes sense since she's the only one in that group who can actually wrestle.

[Innovator]

YES

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>MAD DOG</font>

[parkmania]

I thought when you were high you got the munchies, not that when you fed the munchies you got high.

[KIRA]

gail selling shots from a pillow.....A PILLOW!

god I want her to go back to TNA

and Cole just earned his "complete tool" badge back by calling this an awesome match

[CSL]

Maaaaaaaddddddddd Dogggggggggggggggggggggggggg

[Loose Cannon]

MAD DOG. I thought he was in. haha

[Nark Order]

MAD DOG

[Innovator]

Maddog Vachon

[ClockShot]

Mad Dog Vachon. Oh man.

Wonder how Luna's doing these days?

[parkmania]

Luna to induct her dad?

EDIT: Guess not.

[Loose Cannon]

his voice is ridiculous

[jerichoholicninja]

The actual physical part of wrestling used to be so terrible.

[theexample]

Luna to induct him?

[Innovator]

Pat Patterson inducting, no Luna?

[Nark Order]

Is Mad Dog Luna's father?

[CSL]

The crowd are gonna go nut for it

[ClockShot]

Pat Patterson with the induct?

Stumped on that one. :?:

[KIRA]

She has to induct her dad its only right


oops Uncle

[Providence Peep]

Why isn't Paul "The Butcher" Vachon going in with him?
Besides, I wanted The Moondogs, not the Mad Dog.

[CSL]

They need Nash to show up at the HOF and steal his leg again

[theexample]

Ah, that classic violence in relationships advice commercial here in the UK. Now I know NOT to hit my gf....

[KIRA]

They need Nash to show up at the HOF and steal his leg again

think Lawler did it once too lol

[DaVe]

I want a power chair.

[Favre4Ever]

I'm gonna have to be really high to go see Hot Tub Time Machine.

[CSL]

Why isn't Paul "The Butcher" Vachon going in with him?
Besides, I wanted The Moondogs, not the Mad Dog.

Because just about nobody gives a fuck about Paul Vachon

[Loose Cannon]

no, Mad Dog is not Luna's father Narc. Paul is

[Innovator]

we are wiiiiiiiild and youuuuuung

[Providence Peep]

Because just about nobody gives a fuck about Paul Vachon

Why is that? Is there some bad blood between him and McMahon?

[CSL]

Ah, that classic violence in relationships advice commercial here in the UK. Now I know NOT to hit my gf....

lol the one with the bird and guy with the tarty voice? The thought of any bird doing anything but laugh when he gets aggressive cracks me up

[Sixx]

Why don't all the divas cut the fucking crap and just move to porn already.

I bet all can perform a blowjob better than a DDT.

[CSL]

Why is that? Is there some bad blood between him and McMahon?

Nah he's just not close to the level/name value of Mad Dog

[parkmania]

I'm gonna have to be really high to go see Hot Tub Time Machine.

Nah, it looks so tounge-in-cheek to actually be good. Decent amount of 4th-wall breaking.

[RawRocks]

when will the WWE get a clue and get rid of Michael Cole.. I'd rather have Jim Ross back as the voice of Raw.

[Loose Cannon]

Paul wasn't nearly as successful as Mad Dog. It's like asking to throw in Marty Jannety when HBK gets in

[CSL]

I :heart: Vince McMahon

[theexample]

lol the one with the bird and guy with the tarty voice? The thought of any bird doing anything but laugh when he gets aggressive cracks me up

That's the one. His clone is banging the window telling him to stop hurting her. :rofl:

[screech]

I loved Roberts' reaction there.

[Nark Order]

Embarrassed to watch wrestling when Vince does his walk.

[Innovator]

I still mark out for the guitar riff

[jerichoholicninja]

apparently Bret doesn't know how to use a crutch.

[CSL]

Embarrassed to watch wrestling when Vince does his walk.

lol what? It's beautiful.

[theexample]

He's walking on his broken leg......

[PullMyFinger]

I'm sorry, they really screwed Bret's return storyline. Not having the new Hart Foundation with him and in a feud really killed it for me. I figured great rub for them, and turned too much into the usual McMahon vs. Legend storyline.

[Innovator]

I really can't wait for Austin to get involved with Bret and Vince

[Sixx]

Embarrassed to watch wrestling when Vince does his walk.

Yeah, seriously. I was once watching RAW at friend's house and he was like "Dude, what the fuck is wrong with this old man?".

[Stealth-Icon]

That crutch is about a foot too long for Bret

[DaVe]

haha nice, bret

[CSL]

lolll Vince

[ClockShot]

So will Bret use the crutch? Or will Vince kick it out from under him?

[Stealth-Icon]

Come on Vince, kick out his crutch

[theexample]

Vince accepts the match, Bret was faking?

[Poit]

OK, that's a pretty good shot, seeing Vince in Bret's glasses.

[ClockShot]

Bret must have used half a bottle of Windex to get that shine on those glasses and get Vince's reflection on them.

[Stealth-Icon]

I wish that the crowd yelled HELL NO to answer Vince's question of having the match at WM

[theexample]

Lmao.

[The Franchise]

I really can't wait for Austin to get involved with Bret and Vince

[PullMyFinger]

OMG this is retarded, sorry.

[Stealth-Icon]

Kick him while he is down....do it do it

[Favre4Ever]

saw that coming.

[ClockShot]

And Vince kicks out the crutch wins.

Collect your winnings.

[KIRA]

I love when vinces voice gets all phlegmy like that

[DaVe]

lol coward bret hart

[PullMyFinger]

Bret looks like geriatric out there. And it pains me to say that because he's my fav wrestler of all time.

[Loose Cannon]

god, who wrote this crap?

[PullMyFinger]

John Cena, his best friend? SHOOT ME.

[Favre4Ever]

come on.

[DaVe]

haha my god, vince is the best wanker in the world

[Innovator]

impact vs. vince and cena

[Nark Order]

rofl. Perfect animated gif material from Vince right now.

[Blue Demon]

i wanna hear how Lucky Charms sales do tomorrow

[PullMyFinger]

god, who wrote this crap?
Thank you. Glad to know its not just me. This whole Bret return storyline has been beyond horrible. For years I used to go nuts at the idea of Bret returning, and all the possible things they could do with his return. And it seems like they somehow managed to just flat out kill any steam.

[parkmania]

It's a good thing they DID put a cast on Bret's "broken" leg, or else he'd have forgotten which one it was there when climbing out of the ring.

[Providence Peep]

Nah he's just not close to the level/name value of Mad Dog

But, Koko B. Ware has name value?

[Stealth-Icon]

This is a big let down. Last weeks show was pretty good. Tonight simply sucks.

[Innovator]

I'm getting that DVD

[Triple A]

lol @ Bret Hart putting tons of pressure walking on his broken leg

[Loose Cannon]

no way the same person/team behind Cena/Batista earlier wrote this segment. come on. so forced

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Yeah, pretty obvious that Bret's gonna walk out at WM with the crutch, then throw it away and show he's healed to the surprise of Vince. Bret has to get in pretty much all the offense, cause he can't take much.</font> :o

[Emperor Smeat]

It's a good thing they DID put a cast on Bret's "broken" leg, or else he'd have forgotten which one it was there when climbing out of the ring.

:lol:

[CSL]

But, Koko B. Ware has name value?

A shit ton more than Paul Vachon

[DaVe]

This is a big let down. Last weeks show was pretty good. Tonight simply sucks.

Nah, tonight's been good, from what I've seen.

[parkmania]

10-minute tag team match after the replays and introductions.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Sheamus is prolly gonna get DX DQ'ed...because DQ endings are the new norm in wrestling.</font>

[theexample]

Bats/Cena and HHH/HBK have been the only saving graces so far.

[Innovator]

Orton vs. Legacy...what the fuck are they doing at Mania then?

[ClockShot]

Criss Angel hosts next week.

Should be hit or miss.

[PullMyFinger]

Triple H heel turn here???

[Innovator]

Tuck that shirt in HHH

[Favre4Ever]

Next week: Vince struts around ring with Cena, Batista comes from behind and beats him down, Vince gets some beat down in as well, been done ten million times.

[Providence Peep]

I'm surprised Bret agreed to come back and work this storyline.
I guess money talks.

[Stealth-Icon]

Criss Angel hosting next week. Show already sucks. Unless he can make half of the show disappear

[KIRA]

I wonder if somewhere in the world a seizure prone child ever watched the dx entrance vid

[RawRocks]

who is this Jake fella people keep talking about?

[Favre4Ever]

I'm surprised Bret agreed to come back and work this storyline.
I guess money talks.

You have to guess there will be a much DIFFERENT sort of payoff in the end, something like Vince in the sharpshooter for five minutes.

[Providence Peep]

How has Smackdown been lately?
I bought a ticket this past weekend to go see it in Connecticut on April 20, but I don't have access to MyTV.

[KIRA]

You have to guess there will be a much DIFFERENT sort of payoff in the end, something like Vince in the sharpshooter for five minutes.

That would almost make all this worth it

[Sixx]

Criss Angel vs David Copperfield for the main event.

[RGWhat316]

<font color=goldenrod>Yeah, pretty obvious that Bret's gonna walk out at WM with the crutch, then throw it away and show he's healed to the surprise of Vince. Bret has to get in pretty much all the offense, cause he can't take much.</font> :o

They really didnt need to add this to the storyline anyways. It looks like Bret can barely walk on 2 legs as it is.

[Providence Peep]

You have to guess there will be a much DIFFERENT sort of payoff in the end, something like Vince in the sharpshooter for five minutes.

True.... but still, the two of them put aside their differences just so Bret could pretend to hurt Vince at WM?

[CSL]

Me rikey Miz's kickpads

[RGWhat316]

Since I havent seen him, Im almost expecting a Sheamus run-in on this match.

[PullMyFinger]

What is the likelihood of a Triple H heel turn here???

[CSL]

What is the likelihood of a Triple H heel turn here???

0.00%

[theexample]

Since I havent seen him, Im almost expecting a Sheamus run-in on this match.

Could set up the HHH feud.

[Favre4Ever]

THE STARE OF THE DEAD MAN BAH GAWD.

[screech]

Nice count lol

[ClockShot]

Lame.

[Sixx]

So who's fighting now?

[Stealth-Icon]

That was about the gayest finish I have seen in a long time

[CSL]

Looks like Michelle McCool was just off screen in that Taker shot

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>No Sheamus for 2 weeks in a row? Must have been a bad concussion.</font>

[RawRocks]

Undertaker on the Tron.. brilliant

[Poit]

That seemed like a pretty fast count.

[RGWhat316]

Wow, was that even a 5 minute match?

[Favre4Ever]

did HBK just drop an F bomb?

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>WOOOO THERE HE IS</font>

[KIRA]

theeerre he is

tis the white whale

[ClockShot]

There he is.

[RGWhat316]

Ok, prediction was off until after the match.

[theexample]

There's the sundodger!

[RawRocks]

speaking of the bright white feller

[CSL]

I have zero desire to see Triple H pin Sheamus at WrestleMania

[CSL]

lol the black guys in the front row

[KIRA]

This match still seems shoehorned into WM but whatever

[RGWhat316]

Out comes Lame-us and the crowd goes mild.

[parkmania]

Once again we have an orange-off - Sheamus's hair vs. HHH's skin.

[DaVe]

pretty meh ending

[RawRocks]

i have zero interest in seeing Sheamus at WM period

[theexample]

Can't believe I stayed awake til 4.15 for about 4 mins of wrestling.

[jettson80]

Out comes Lame-us and the crowd goes mild.

:lol:

[Sixx]

Can't believe I stayed awake til 4.15 for about 4 mins of wrestling.

Tell me about it. I'm not even watching, just reading about it. I think I need a job or something.

[el bobbo]

Sheamus never got his rematch. I wonder if he will get it...

[Wishbone]

I have lost all faith in the WWE this was the worst RAW in history

[Mr. C]

Randy Orton vs. Ted DiBiase was good.

Glad Jack Swagger and MVP are in Money In The Bank.

Bret Hart vs. Vince McMahon has to become a Street Fight or No Disqualification. Can’t wait to see Hart back in the ring one more time.

I hope Shawn Michaels loses to The Undertaker, then on RAW, leaves. Triple-H comes out. They hug. Pedigree.

Batista and John Cena were awesome. How could anyone not like that? I loved every second of that promo and thought it should‘ve closed the show instead of the Tag Team Championship Match. That match must main event WrestleMania 26.

6.5/10

[Hitmanfan84]

I really digging this Batista/Cena rivalry. And it's true, they're the first supertars since the attitude era to make it big as they are and headline Wrestlemania. And they made it personal and real as it gets, none of that who's the better fan favorite crap but who is the better superstar. Not to mention it's a championship match.

[dronepool]

Cheech and Chong were awesome.

[The Jayman]

I want some Lucky Charms

[thejamminone]

I thought Raw was'nt too bad and the Cena/Batista promo was good too I thought. And I'm thinking maybe Bret will interfere in the Cena/Vince match.

[el bobbo]

I thought the Diva Pillow Fight was one of the most degrading things I have ever seen. And I watch enough internet pornography to make a sex addict squeamish.

[moonface]

I am glad I have hardly seen any of beets return by the sounds of it. Gonna have to watch mania hope this doesn't ruin my image of bret the hitman hart.

[#1-norm-fan]

The only way Sheamus vs. Triple H can garner any interest for me is if they go with a promo between the two next week where Sheamus brings up Triple H holding all the young guys down because he's banging the bosses daughter and can do whatever he wants and now, just when an up and comer like himself has the chance to main event WM, surprise, HHH is the one who costs him that opportunity.

[Inadequacy]

Isn't this like the second pinfal victory the Miz has over Shawn Michaels?

[Juan]

Isn't this like the second pinfal victory the Miz has over Shawn Michaels?

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[Inadequacy]

That didn't seem right

[StingerSplash4Lyf]

was bret in the nwo??

[Juan]

It was actually a pretty darn good match

[Anybody Thrilla]

I think The Miz has officially pinned Shawn Michaels three times now.

[Inadequacy]

Awesome

[#1-norm-fan]

I think The Miz has officially pinned Shawn Michaels three times now.

The two title matches with Big Show against DX...

When was the other time?

[Anybody Thrilla]

The two title matches with Big Show against DX...

When was the other time?

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[Anybody Thrilla]

Oh wow, that was a different match. Hold up one second, let me find it...

[Anybody Thrilla]

Oh, there it is in that video around the :36 mark. It shows the replay from the week before that match where Miz pinned Michaels.