Final Fantasy 13.... [Archive]

dronepool

03-08-2010, 12:07 AM

Why am I not excited?

It looks nice graphics wise, but that's about it. Nothing really makes me interested in the story or characters. The game play looks pretty fun, but I hate that you don't get to do some of the things from the older games. I enjoyed FF games not because of the stories but because of the many things you can do. That's what made them fun- for me.

I sorta regret pre-ordering it because God Of War 3 is coming out next week and if I get God Of War 3 next week, I'll put this game a side for a while. But I haven't pre-ordered God Of War 3 yet, so I might end up getting it a few weeks later. It depends how much extra cash I have.

I did enjoy FF 7-9 and 12- so hopefully I'll like this. I just don't see myself getting that into it.

LoDownM

03-08-2010, 12:50 AM

I haven't played a FF since 10, do they use an open world map like 7/8 or do they have that stupid point, click, go shit they had in 10?

dronepool

03-08-2010, 01:14 AM

I heard it's more like 10.... just with no towns to explore... you go through towns but you don't really interact- which blows. There are side quests, but I think it's mostly killing monsters.

All I know is what I saw from a few videos and I just can't get excited about it. I loved exploring and getting super strong and shit. It looks alright, but not as fun as it should be. I guess I'll see. Supposedly it gets better after 25 hours...:wtf:

Splaya

03-08-2010, 02:36 AM

Been watching some peeps play on justin.tv this past weekend. Def picking this up now for sure

Splaya

03-08-2010, 02:43 AM

I guess no matter what boss battle you are in, (not enemy battle, but boss battle) you only get 20 minutes to beat it. After that you die

Big Fat Mike

03-08-2010, 01:35 PM

I don't really have an extra 25 hours to decide whether or not I like a game.

DAMN iNATOR

03-09-2010, 12:01 AM

I don't really have an extra 25 hours to decide whether or not I like a game.

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Maybe that'll help...

#BROKEN Hasney

03-09-2010, 01:34 AM

Played through a bit of it and got sick of it really quick. Doubt I'll pick it back up.

#BROKEN Hasney

03-09-2010, 03:26 AM

Anyway, you control one member of your party, then click auto-battle, auto-battle.....

There is an abilities menu but it's pointless, auto-battle will sort out the right thing for you.

El Fangel

03-09-2010, 03:28 AM

FFX killed the franchise for me, I have not played one since.

FF6, FF7, FF8, FF9

Best run of games in a series, ever.

dronepool

03-09-2010, 03:33 AM

I still don't know if I should end up getting it... it sounds like I could wait until it's 40 bucks or something.

#BROKEN Hasney

03-09-2010, 03:47 AM

FFX killed the franchise for me, I have not played one since.

FF6, FF7, FF8, FF9

Best run of games in a series, ever.

HATED 8 so hard. Agree with the other 3 though.

#BROKEN Hasney

03-09-2010, 03:48 AM

I still don't know if I should end up getting it... it sounds like I could wait until it's 40 bucks or something.

I'm about 4 hours in and haven't messed around, haven't had a fight under 5 star rating yet and still no fucking magic. And controlling one member of your party in battle is fucking bullshit.

Also, there's these aerosols you can spray to give you stealth and things. IN A FINAL FANTASY GAME.

And Vanille's voice.... UGHHHHHHHH. When she said her name it sounded like she said venereal.

I do like the production quality and the fact that battles are still not random from FFXII though.

Fignuts

03-09-2010, 03:50 AM

FFX killed the franchise for me, I have not played one since.

FF6, FF7, FF8, FF9

Best run of games in a series, ever.

You forgot FF4 and FF5.

El Fangel

03-09-2010, 05:41 AM

HATED 8 so hard. Agree with the other 3 though.

The story from 8, I tend to forgive as the battle system, gf's and magic system was one of my favorites

You forgot FF4 and FF5.

Never played them, so I cant commentate on them but I will take your word that they were good.

Shaggy

03-09-2010, 05:52 AM

The only reason I will even be picking up this game is because I am able to get it for $9.99.

My friends xbox got the Red Ring and he decided to give up on xbox and gave me his games. Two of the games he gave me were on a list at Blockbuster where if you trade 2 in you get Final Fantasy for $9.99.

#BROKEN Hasney

03-09-2010, 09:36 AM

Oh, and for those still wanting to pick this up, but have both consoles. The PS3 has nicer looking cutscenes but the 360 can keep a steady framerate in the bigger battles *shrug*

Big Fat Mike

03-09-2010, 10:53 AM

03-09-2010, 11:02 AM

is this turn based

OssMan

03-09-2010, 12:57 PM

KINDA. You have an active battle gauge and you sorta queue up your "abilities." Items don't reset your gauge. And you only control the leader of your party. Battles move pretty fast. You get rated on them based on how fast you complete them.

Splaya

03-09-2010, 03:53 PM

Rented this from Blockbuster today. Going to go home and play it when I get home. Going to play it with an open mind. Final fantasy 13 versus is where its going to be at

alvarado52

03-09-2010, 04:19 PM

last FF i played was 10 (unless you count the FFIII DS game). So, lets see how it goes.

OssMan

03-09-2010, 08:29 PM

A lot like 10 stylistically. Blatant holocaust reference so far

Big Fat Mike

03-09-2010, 09:49 PM

Wait, a videogame that references the holocaust? Tell me more, Sir Man of Ass

OssMan

03-09-2010, 10:01 PM

The government purging an entire city because they are deemed a threat to the rest of the world so they promise to deport them all to this underworld thing and the rest of the world agrees, and then the army slaughters them all

dronepool

03-09-2010, 10:33 PM

What will make Final Fantasy 13 Versus different from this? I assume it takes place in the same 13 universe, but I haven't really looked into the articles.

OssMan

03-09-2010, 10:34 PM

I'm pretty sure it's in a different "world"

Big Fat Mike

03-09-2010, 10:38 PM

I'm suddenly interested

dronepool

03-09-2010, 10:38 PM

I just hope you could actually explore and level up with experience points in FF13:Versus... because that was usually more fun than the actual story lines in FF games.

Getting wasted and just mindlessly leveling up to powerful levels is fun.

Khuntry

03-10-2010, 12:47 AM

The battle system in FF13 Versus will be a lot like Kingdom Hearts. Same team workin' on Versus anyways.

Extreme Angle

03-10-2010, 03:09 AM

I'm loving it so far, (2 hours in)

OssMan

03-10-2010, 10:38 AM

The annoying happy chick suddenly turns British like an hour in

#BROKEN Hasney

03-10-2010, 10:39 AM

Yeah, I noticed that.

Was she like Aussie before that? I still want to punch her with that voice.

OssMan

03-10-2010, 10:41 AM

I dunno I think it was fine. "American" if you will. Fucking hate characters like her though. Keep calling her Rikku.

El Fangel

03-10-2010, 11:09 AM

Nothing ANYONE has said in this thread is leading me to believe the franchise has gotten a single bit better since FFX.

Nark Order

03-10-2010, 11:21 AM

Bout an hour in. Loving it so far. Definitely noticed the British change though as well.

Nark Order

03-10-2010, 11:24 AM

Nothing ANYONE has said in this thread is leading me to believe the franchise has gotten a single bit better since FFX.

Except that everyone has loved it so far that has played it? Most of us are only a couple hours in so far as well, sorry that us playing through the exposition of the story couldn't be more exciting for you.

#BROKEN Hasney

03-10-2010, 11:24 AM

Nothing ANYONE has said in this thread is leading me to believe the franchise has gotten a single bit better since FFX.

I liked XII. This is a turd though.

El Fangel

03-10-2010, 11:25 AM

What I am hearing about it, does not in fact, excite me in any way shape or form.

Why they couldnt revert to the much loved world maps,ATB systems and such is beyond me.

Nark Order

03-10-2010, 11:29 AM

Moms are tough.

Inadequacy

03-10-2010, 02:37 PM

Hoping to get this for my birthday on friday

dronepool

03-10-2010, 02:49 PM

Meh, fuck my reservation. I'll wait a few months until this gets cheaper and probably get it then. I'm just not that excited about it.

Outsider

03-10-2010, 02:54 PM

I haven't had much chance to play Mass Effect 2 yet, so I'm gonna finish that before I pick this up.

Although I hated 12 and no-one seems to suggest this is any better.

#BROKEN Hasney

03-10-2010, 03:59 PM

I haven't had much chance to play Mass Effect 2 yet, so I'm gonna finish that before I pick this up.

Although I hated 12 and no-one seems to suggest this is any better.

The battle system is even more simplified from 12. It feels like it was designed for a 3 year old.

OssMan

03-10-2010, 05:13 PM

12 is awesome... took away the monotony of mindlessing hitting attack in every fight and let you control the way you wanted to. The battle system in 13 is cool but it's back to slightly turn based and hitting attack a bunch, and you only control the party leader, and you get game over if that person dies. Feels like Chrono Trigger sorta.

OssMan

03-12-2010, 06:11 PM

Anyone encounter the Flandragora yet? So awesome

Splaya

03-12-2010, 06:39 PM

FourFifty

03-12-2010, 07:09 PM

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10240371-1.html

Fuck Square. I still haven't forgiven them for this.

OssMan

03-12-2010, 09:00 PM

assman, since you are usually an expert of final fantasy games and we usually share opinions about which ones are good and which ones are not, what is your overall take on htis game so far based on music, storyline and the battles
Well I hated 10 but this one looks a lot like it, except every level looks amazing. They started the game right by starting it in the middle of things, and they take a long time to explain everything. The music is good too, especially the battle music and I like the "main theme" that they have a bunch of different variations of. Also the battle system is crazy, it's like really fast paced Chrono Trigger and you have to complete them as fast as you can by using "paradigm shifts" to get items to upgrade your stuff with. They sorta brought back the sphere grid thing which I didn't like, and I still don't understand that completely. But this game is good. Worthy of the hype I guess.

OssMan

03-12-2010, 09:00 PM

Thanks for your take

What Would Kevin Do?

03-12-2010, 09:46 PM

I like it better than 12 and 10 thus far.

Khuntry

03-12-2010, 11:09 PM

The Sphere Grid is probably the one of the best features in the Final Fantasy series.

OssMan

03-12-2010, 11:11 PM

Nah it is stupid. It halts you when you get too far. Regular leveling up is way better.

Khuntry

03-12-2010, 11:13 PM

A bit disappointed that the Crystarium system isn't like the Sphere Grid in the sense that all the characters share one board or grid

Khuntry

03-12-2010, 11:17 PM

Nah it is stupid. It halts you when you get too far. Regular leveling up is way better.

I must disagree. I find the fact that you have freedom to decide how every character develop is way better than just plain leveling up.

dronepool

03-12-2010, 11:18 PM

The Grid was one of the reasons I wasn't that into FFX. I actually liked the game, but hated the water grid thingy.

Khuntry

03-12-2010, 11:22 PM

The Sphere grid was ahead of its time

OssMan

03-12-2010, 11:22 PM

I must disagree. I find the fact that you have freedom to decide how every character develop is way better than just plain leveling up.
If you want a good way to decide how each character develops then play Final Fantasy 5 (or Tactics) because the job system is the ultimate way to do that. The Sphere Grid or "crystarium" is filled with a bunch of strength, magic, and HP nodes and you are pretty much forced to complete it a certain way.

Khuntry

03-12-2010, 11:35 PM

I'm not too familiar with those titles, but correct me if I'm wrong. I don't think you can switch in between jobs during battle (again not sure) but even if you could that it still wouldn't matter because the grid does away with that concept. Each job probably has a limited set of abilities and tech. and there must be others you can't learn because that certain job won't allow it. that is simply not the case with the grid. (hope that made sense)

OssMan

03-12-2010, 11:41 PM

Nah because you assign your character a job and he learns the abilities for it, then when they master it they get to keep the secondary ability that comes with it while they learn another job. So you can have a samurai casting black magic or some archer using geomancy or anything. Way more customizable.

Khuntry

03-12-2010, 11:49 PM

Ah i see. But its still kind of the same don't you think? How did you get the jobs btw?

Kalyx triaD

03-12-2010, 11:56 PM

If I may interject, and I have not played the game, I have read many accounts of how this game was deliberately linear and streamlined. A more focused and to-the-point ability system may be there intention. From what I know it seems FF13 has a straightened way to the top of a certain 'class', but multiple ways to get there - while other games have many classes but one way to maximize them.

I have found FFX's system elegant, but I loved FF8's Junction system much better (call me a stat nazi).

Khuntry

03-13-2010, 12:17 AM

The crystarium system is pretty linear... kind of a bummer for me

LoDownM

03-13-2010, 01:14 AM

Going by looks, I like the Crystarium system better than the Sphere grid. Not gonna be able to rent it till next weekend, stupid car needing gas.

alvarado52

03-13-2010, 01:28 AM

The crystarium system is pretty linear... kind of a bummer for me

EDIT: Agree'd

Indifferent Clox

03-14-2010, 05:14 PM

love this game.

OssMan

03-14-2010, 05:26 PM

They put lyrics to the chocobo song

Requiem

03-14-2010, 05:35 PM

After having watched a friend play this for a while, I can safely say my interest in the game is nill.

Seems hugely overrated and very linear.

#BROKEN Hasney

03-14-2010, 05:43 PM

Linear isn't a problem at all for a story driven game like this, in fact all the other non-linear parts of old FF's were just smoke and mirrors.

However; a shocking story and battle system do totally ruin the game.

Kalyx triaD

03-14-2010, 06:18 PM

I had no idea people had such issue with linearity. It's one of those 'damned if you do...' cases, I guess.

Requiem

03-14-2010, 06:42 PM

Idk. I was never a fan of how in old FF games, you just had to run around killing things for hours to level up. I liked FF12's battle system though, and places generally seemed 'open' and able to be explored.

This game though, there doesn't seem to be anything to explore. Just places to -go-. Point A to Point B. Same with the character advancement. You have 'classes' which aren't really classes, with really only one way to advance them.. they just get 'better'.. they don't really behave differently.

Seems like they made the combat the way they did just so players would feel like they have some input over what they're doing.. If all your characters do is get better, and you only go from Point A to Point B over and over again... are you really even experiencing a game, or are you just watching a series of cut-scenes as you walk through maps that look pretty?

Also, the ming-numbingly slow story got old after watching two dozen cutscenes and still having no idea what was going on.

Whatever. I'm not the one playing it, and I've certainly got no urge to play it after seeing all that it has to offer.

Kalyx triaD

03-14-2010, 07:02 PM

Square-Enix commented on how town exploration slowed the game down, and it was a point of reference for many 'critics' when they talked about 'pace' in JRPGs (many of which I've read through personally through the years). So I was very interested in the reaction to this FF's development style. I mean, I never heard people say how much they loved talking to NPC's and exploring world maps in FF before - although these were traditional mechanics, they were never hailed as popular 'mainstays'. Everything I remember attributed to FF most is exactly what Square-Enix focused on, and stubbornly so. Story, CGI cutscenes, streamlined battles (with less number crunching), and straight forward level up system. Now these are points of issue for people.

Personally, in terms of how JRPGs work, FF13 is kinda wild - and closer to an action adventure game of sorts. I suppose we can call it moderate. In this way I can see why people reacted this way. Moderate ideas don't polarize people as much, they are safe ideas. This is why traditional JRPGs have love it or hate it reactions. Even in threads here, people seem to get (and love it) or don't (and hate it) - very little in between. SquEnix taking the safe route came at a smart time, with the game being available for another console. People won't hate it, but will people love it? And it puts anybody in either camp in vicarious positions... I'd say it's harder to explain loving a game like this, with it being un-JRPG. But it would also be harder to explain hating it, with the old JRPG complaints are nearly gone.

tl;dr: Gamers are a finicky bunch, who never know what they want.

alvarado52

03-14-2010, 07:09 PM

i like it, i mean yes its linear, but by no means is that bad. And its not even the story or exploration that i have a problem with, its the lack of strategy in the development of the character. In older FFs, you had to decide WHEN and HOW to develop...do you save up XP for that powerful spell? Or split it up for some bits and pieces of strength and magic.

Requiem

03-14-2010, 07:23 PM

Taking those things away and streamlining a game too much makes the world feel less like a world, and simply like a series of levels, IMO.

Kalyx triaD

03-14-2010, 07:32 PM

Tough no less a game. IMO.

Requiem

03-14-2010, 07:52 PM

Huh?

Johnny Vegas

03-14-2010, 07:53 PM

Exploring the towns were the best. If it doesn't have that, then no-go for me.

dronepool

03-14-2010, 08:12 PM

Exploring the towns were the best. If it doesn't have that, then no-go for me.

Agreed. I liked exploring more than following the story. If I wanted to kill a few hours, I'd have fun by leveling up and exploring, finding cool stuff... The world map with the airship was always my most anticipated part of any FF game.

The reason I put 120+ hours into Fallout 3 is...(and it was one of the only very few games that I started over and wasn't bored) EXPLORATION and variety!

OssMan

03-14-2010, 09:07 PM

Exploring the towns were the best. If it doesn't have that, then no-go for me.
i stopped reading at "stereotypical black guy playing final fantasy"

James Diesel

03-16-2010, 03:31 AM

Well I'm only at Chapter 10. I will say that I do like the game as a whole so far but criticisms include: Complete forward progress, no back tracking, no Limits, only 4 Eidolons, complexity of the Crystarium, inability to control or switch characters in battle.

Everything else is fine for me.

Extreme Angle

03-16-2010, 04:49 AM

Although i'm on Disk 2 and seriously loving the game.
I'm missing the fact that there's nothing for me to do other than story.

I want to train choccobo and stuff...

OssMan

03-16-2010, 08:49 AM

Disk 2
game is only 1 disc

Ogen

03-16-2010, 08:51 AM

How many disks does it come on, its the littlest thing ever but games that come on more than one disk infuriate me.

Ogen

03-16-2010, 08:51 AM

Ah well thats good Assman, nicely timed.

#BROKEN Hasney

03-16-2010, 08:51 AM

XBox 360: 3 discs

PS3: 1 disc

OssMan

03-16-2010, 08:54 AM

How the fuck can a game come on more than one disc anymore. Does the 360 really suck that much

Ogen

03-16-2010, 08:54 AM

Oh well thats a load of gay

#BROKEN Hasney

03-16-2010, 09:01 AM

How the fuck can a game come on more than one disc anymore. Does the 360 really suck that much

How is it even a problem? Just waddle your arse over there and swap the disc big whoop.

8.5gb should be enough for any game bar interactive movies like FF13 or dialogue heavy games like ME2.

OssMan

03-16-2010, 12:44 PM

No I mean how can a game be too big for a console in the "modern era." Thought that ended with PS2

Khuntry

03-16-2010, 01:36 PM

http://www.creativeuncut.com/webcomic/pixies-pub-comic0006.html

Requiem

03-16-2010, 01:47 PM

lol what? Do you really not realize WHY games just keep getting bigger and bigger? This generation is the first that even needs to use such large discs.

We're talking high-definition graphics and audio now. The files for extremely high quality graphics and audio are HUGE.

Sorry, but your Wii doesn't have that so they'll never have a game that needs to be more than one disc.

PS3 doesn't need more than one due to blu-ray storage size.

The 360 will never be able to drop multi-discs if it is that large of a game, because their discs just aren't capable of it.

OssMan

03-16-2010, 04:57 PM

What I'm trying to say is that the 360 is a piece of shit

Kalyx triaD

03-17-2010, 01:37 AM

FF games on PS and PS2 had multiple discs. No one complained. ME2 came on multiple discs. People here fapped over the game.

Stop. Being. Gay.

Plenty of other much more valid reasons to crap on Red Ring 360.

#BROKEN Hasney

03-17-2010, 01:45 AM

There are plenty of reasons to shit on all 3 consoles and every consumer electronics product ever.

Requiem

03-17-2010, 01:51 AM

Kalyx triaD

03-17-2010, 02:02 AM

There are plenty of reasons to shit on all 3 consoles and every consumer electronics product ever.

And taking one's lazy ass and swapping discs (which installing renders moot anyway) shouldn't be one of them. One of the weaker sauce arguments I've heard over the game.

#BROKEN Hasney

03-17-2010, 02:10 AM

It's hardly being used against the game, people are trying to use it as shots against the 360.

I'd personally take the multiple discs over a slow blu-ray drive and mandatory installs, but that's personal choice. Doesn't make the PS3 a terrible console in my eyes.

dronepool

03-17-2010, 03:09 AM

Why doesn't 360 use HD DVD for it's games? I thought that they did. They have more storage than dual layer DVD's... Just because bluray 'won' doesn't mean they can't use HDDVD for games.

Kalyx triaD

03-17-2010, 03:13 AM

That makes an iota of sense. Gonna look that up.

#BROKEN Hasney

03-17-2010, 03:17 AM

Why doesn't 360 use HD DVD for it's games? I thought that they did. They have more storage than dual layer DVD's... Just because bluray 'won' doesn't mean they can't use HDDVD for games.

Probably has something to do with there being no HD-DVD drive in the 360.

Fignuts

03-17-2010, 03:30 AM

Probably has something to do with there being no HD-DVD drive in the 360.

Yeah, 360 had an external player for HD DVD, as opposed to PS3's built in blu-ray player.

dronepool

03-17-2010, 03:42 AM

Damn, for some reason I figured they would use HD DVD as the default media format. Weird that they'd stick to DVD's.

#BROKEN Hasney

03-17-2010, 03:44 AM

It had something to do with being built to hit a price point and coming out all the way back in 2006.

OssMan

03-17-2010, 04:44 PM

The 360 needs multiple discs to hold its higher quality media, while the Wii only uses single discs because the games on it don't have high enough quality of content to demand the use of multiple discs, because the system itself can't handle it.

I await an explanation on how that makes the 360 shit. I certainly won't hold my breath over it though.
What the fuck are you talking about, why do you keep bring up Wii, I have not mentioned it at all. "imo" though some Wii games have better graphics than the HD games on PS3 and 360, including Final Fantasy 13. Super Mario Galaxy is probably the best looking game I have ever seen. Like somebody said, the 360 was rushed and built to hit a price range, which ended up making it a lot weaker than it could have been.

Fignuts

03-17-2010, 05:29 PM

lol mario galaxy

get the fuck out of here

Requiem

03-17-2010, 06:05 PM

lol he can get the fuck out of here with that whole post

Requiem

03-17-2010, 06:09 PM

Also, guarantee there is not a single Wii game that looks better on my 50" plasma, than did Uncharted 2. Was one of the most visually appeasing games I've ever seen.

Fignuts

03-17-2010, 06:35 PM

Agreed. Uncharted 2 is easily the best looking console game ever.

Blitz

03-17-2010, 07:17 PM

Can't believe how much I used to love Final Fantasy compared to how much I don't care about this one :(

Anybody Thrilla

03-18-2010, 12:37 PM

OK...should I get this game or not? Just tell me now.

I have a PS3, by the way.

Khuntry

03-19-2010, 02:56 PM

A very "scathing" review (http://www.destructoid.com/review-final-fantasy-xiii-167136.phtml) of FF13, which I know a lot of you here will jive with..

Kalyx triaD

03-19-2010, 04:19 PM

While FF13 may turn people off with it's near 180 design choices, me and my bro are checking out Resonance of Fate. A badass, classical JRPG with gunplay instead of swords. To quell early doubts, the game opens with town/world exploration. The battle system is a snazzy take on turn-based combat.

And in this world everybody solves their problems with guns.

Khuntry

03-19-2010, 04:48 PM

James Diesel

03-19-2010, 04:49 PM

OK...should I get this game or not? Just tell me now.

I have a PS3, by the way.

Yes. I am playing it now and regardless of it's contrast from other games, on it's own it is really well done.

Khuntry

03-19-2010, 05:07 PM

I keep hearing that ROF is really hard and unforgiving.

Fignuts

03-19-2010, 05:14 PM

Most classic jrpgs are.

Kalyx triaD

03-19-2010, 05:39 PM

I keep hearing that ROF is really hard and unforgiving.

I died in my first battle. I thought I had the battle system down with the time I put into the very generous training offered 5 minutes into the game, but I thought wrong.

Fignuts

03-19-2010, 05:45 PM

I beat Final Fantasy III. I can take anything this game throws at me.

D Mac

03-19-2010, 06:06 PM

.

Stop. Being. Gay.
.

AssFag is incapable of that.

Anyways, rented this on PS3. I love the 1 disc blu ray shit, but still love my 360, too.

Khuntry

03-19-2010, 10:03 PM

Most classic jrpgs are.

I meant the learning curve for ROF is pretty high..

#BROKEN Hasney

03-20-2010, 03:42 AM

OK...should I get this game or not? Just tell me now.

I have a PS3, by the way.

Read the review Khuntry listed below your point. I agree with it 100%.

tl;dr version: Only buy if you're a fan of terrible writing, running down corridors and occasionaly pushing buttons.

In fact, since you have a PS3, why not re-buy all the PS1 FF's. Start with Tactics then play any order you like.

Kalyx triaD

03-20-2010, 04:24 AM

I still see value in FF13, but in a way I see value in ODST even though it's not like regular Halo. A lot of people got sideswiped s'all. All the stuff I hear about the writing and lack of gameplay is overblown (and I like Destructoid's Jim Stirling). I've also read glowing reviews on the same game, so all I got is my own thoughts on it when the reactions seem so polarized.

I will say this, I wouldn't go into FF13 expecting traditional JRPG conventions - having gathered so much intel before the fact. I'd still play it for the general experience, and there's some concepts I'm personally interested in creatively speaking. Also:

>>> Resonance of Fate

Guns and shit.

dronepool

03-22-2010, 03:36 AM

So watching my friend play it- nice graphics, boring level designs. Yeah, I'll wait till it's like 30 bucks or less if I even care by then.

Splaya

03-22-2010, 01:18 PM

It's being said that Final fantasy 13 versus (whenever it comes out) will have airships and a world map to move around in

Blitz

03-22-2010, 02:24 PM

AssFag is incapable of that.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA YOU CALLED HIM ASSFAG!!!!! YOU SHOWED THAT MOTHERFUCKER

alvarado52

03-22-2010, 05:03 PM

oh my god, you people are fucking ridiculous. 'Terrible writing'? I dont know about you, but i TOTALLY get thrown off when a game's script is bad. The writing isnt bad, btw, i dunno who the fuck is Roger Ebert here to judge THAT.

BTW, im almost done with this game, played every FF with the exception of 12, and my opinion is that it is a good game.

You will enjoy it, so long as youre not scared of change like all these fucks bitching about it. Its alot like 10 (which i enjoyed).

#BROKEN Hasney

03-22-2010, 05:41 PM

Not scared of change at all, 12 is like the 3rd best FF and it's much more different than this one.

This ones just got FF8 syndrome. All style, no substance - the wet dream of a bunch of videogame developers simply trying to push hardware to its limits.

alvarado52

03-22-2010, 07:26 PM

ill go as far as saying the story doesnt draw you into the characters the way others have in the past, but most of you seem to be shitting on this one as the worst final fantasy EVAH. So they tried to blend in elements of RPGs from the states and JRPG, and?

I just dont see how people complain when something is stagnant, and then complain when something is different. Damned if you do, damned if you dont i guess.

Kalyx triaD

03-22-2010, 09:34 PM

I just dont see how people complain when something is stagnant, and then complain when something is different. Damned if you do, damned if you dont i guess.

This.

#BROKEN Hasney

03-23-2010, 03:33 AM

alvarado52

03-23-2010, 03:52 AM

Civilization Revolution? Bad? Right. Okay. Nice list by the way...totally backed by data like say, a metacritic score?

#BROKEN Hasney

03-23-2010, 04:15 AM

Civilization Revolution? Bad? Right. Okay. Nice list by the way...totally backed by data like say, a metacritic score?

I'm sorry, I forgot my opinion gelled with the hivemind of everyone else and had to back it up with random scores based on other peoples opinions.

alvarado52

03-23-2010, 04:22 AM

I'm sorry, I forgot my opinion gelled with the hivemind of everyone else and had to back it up with random scores based on other peoples opinions.

well, you put your list out there like its something to live by, when it was just more of the same...your opinion.

Everyone has opinions, i suppose the best way to find out if the game is good is count the good opinions and the bad ones, and see who has more.

Johnny McNasty

03-23-2010, 04:48 AM

Played this at a friends earlier tonight, and have to say I was quite impressed. Was weary like everyone about the game featuring no towns, and limited exploring, but what I got to play of it was extremely fun. Gonna have to rent this and give it a go through.

jcmoorehead

03-23-2010, 06:33 AM

It is the worst FF ever. Just because it's different doesn't mean it's good so I really don't understand people who just bang out clichés like they've found the magical point. LOOK, HERE ARE LISTS

Different to other games in franchise and good
FF12
Fallout 3
RE4

Different and Bad
FF13
Sonic Heroes
Civ Revolution

I didn't name the non-numbred FF's in either category as their point is to be different, otherwise Tactics and the original Crystal Chronicles would be in the good list.

Sonic Heroes wasn't bad because it was different Sonic Heroes was just plain fucking bad, it's not like the attempts to recapture Sonic Adventure in Sonic The Hedgehog were any better.

I've also heard people complain that FF12 was too different and bad as well, I personally liked FF12 for trying to be different but I disliked the story and characters to it.

I don't really see what is that hugely different about FF13 anyway, ok we have a new battle system that happens with every FF game no big deal, but we also have the linearity but I ask but FFX was also remarkably linear up to a certain point, just as this game is.

It's definitely not the worst FF ever (That will forever belong to FF11) but it's not the best one ever, it probably lies somewhere in the middle.

James Diesel

03-23-2010, 09:12 PM

At the final boss right now

Let's hope for at least a decent ending

Indifferent Clox

03-23-2010, 11:21 PM

this game is really good, people who don't like it probably only played the first 4 or so hours

Indifferent Clox

03-23-2010, 11:23 PM

6
7
8
9
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James Diesel

03-24-2010, 12:12 AM

Had my ass handed to me multiple times.

Haven't beaten the game yet.

Kalyx triaD

03-26-2010, 07:41 AM

Completely off topic:

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03-26-2010, 09:03 AM

this game is really good, people who don't like it probably only played the first 4 or so hours

i don't like it and i only played the first 20 minutes. got past the 2nd group of guards or whatever after the tutorial fight, and gave it up. this style of gameplay isn't for me. :-\

Requiem

03-26-2010, 01:16 PM

If I have to play a single player game for 4 hours before it becomes fun, then it has already failed.

Khuntry

03-26-2010, 03:51 PM

Khuntry

03-26-2010, 03:51 PM

Kawaii desu ne..

Kalyx triaD

03-26-2010, 03:54 PM

Kojima's either a genius or a madman. He's the only guy who could take an action game of MGS caliber, make a J-pop music video - complete with soldiers sharing screen time with the chick, and not hurt the series image.

James Diesel

03-27-2010, 06:10 AM

So I just beat the game.

Really good ending. Interesting finish.

Honestly, without comparing it to every other FF, this game did an amazing job and I'm really glad I got it. Can't wait for FFXV

RoXer

03-29-2010, 06:34 PM

So do Vanille's tits pop out later or what?

alvarado52

03-29-2010, 06:40 PM

So do Vanille's tits pop out later or what?

no, but she cops a feel of someone else's titty later on.

RoXer

03-29-2010, 06:41 PM

:-\

03-29-2010, 06:45 PM

how do you like the game roxer1

RoXer

03-29-2010, 06:48 PM

I'd like it even more if she'd me dat phat ass

03-29-2010, 06:52 PM

may i ask the status of your power button

RoXer

03-29-2010, 06:58 PM

What

RoXer

03-29-2010, 07:01 PM

Oh I get it.

It is "on". I am still playing and haven't givne up yet.

Indifferent Clox

03-30-2010, 10:04 PM

The gameplay adds stuff later on, like most games, I didn'st say id din't think it was fun i thought the first 4 hours were cool, but not as good as after the tripple threat battles and paradigms come into play.

alvarado52

03-30-2010, 10:30 PM

yeah, my only issue is that the game picks up its strategy and gameplay kinda late into the game.

Indifferent Clox

03-30-2010, 11:20 PM

Late? what? it's like 4-5 hours in, that's like 1/5th of the way through

alvarado52

03-30-2010, 11:25 PM

chapter 11 is when you really need to work your paradigms. There are only 13 chapters in the game.

jcmoorehead

03-31-2010, 04:42 AM

Finished this last night and really enjoyed it. Was the first FF game i've completed so I'm pleased with that at least.

RoXer

03-31-2010, 02:50 PM

About 5 hours in. Getting confused.

RoXer

03-31-2010, 02:51 PM

Also, I guess this can hold me over for now

http://img2.sankakustatic.com/wp-content/gallery/misc-images-xxviii/ff13_vanille_teasing.jpg

thecc

03-31-2010, 04:34 PM

alvarado52

03-31-2010, 06:32 PM

About 5 hours in. Getting confused.

l'Cie are essentially pawns that do bidding for the Fal'Cie, which are basically Gods. If l'Cie disobey their focus, they turn into monsters. Pulse is the lower world which peeps in Cocoon fear, and vice versa.

Ragnarok is the only thing capable of destroying a god. Only way Ragnarok comes around is via a Pulse l'Cie.

Did that help a lil?

Inadequacy

03-31-2010, 06:46 PM

I've found the story pretty straightforward so far

Extreme Angle

04-01-2010, 04:51 AM

Just got to Disk 3 :).

Fignuts

04-02-2010, 02:48 AM

Kalyx triaD

04-03-2010, 03:17 PM

http://i38.tinypic.com/2s1wyrm.jpg

alvarado52

04-04-2010, 02:53 AM

japanese are fucking weird...

Fignuts

04-04-2010, 03:44 AM

She's not japanese.

Kalyx triaD

04-04-2010, 03:53 AM

I think there's more American cosplayers than Japanese. Especially around a certain Fall holiday.

alvarado52

04-04-2010, 05:11 AM

LOOK at those slanted eyes!

Outsider

04-06-2010, 05:44 AM

Seven hours in.

A bit bored of endless walking and battling and want a town and a chance to explore.

I also want to kill Hope. Whiney little shit.

Krimzon7

04-14-2010, 12:24 PM

I beat FF13 about 10 days ago. Really pissed that the true power of the crew isn't realized til AFTER you defeat orphan, which was a little too easy. But the ending was a bit...different. I may have to run through the last level again to get a better understanding of the ending.

Kalyx triaD

04-19-2010, 02:11 PM

http://cache-02.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/04/500x_ccf2_ccc226.jpg

This made me lol for some reason.

Outsider

04-21-2010, 04:43 PM

I am literally having to force myself to play this game. It's fucking dull and the battle system is irritating.

Kalyx triaD

04-21-2010, 06:18 PM

Jokes on you, then. lol

dronepool

04-21-2010, 11:17 PM

I am literally having to force myself to play this game. It's fucking dull and the battle system is irritating.

Yeah, after watching my friend play it....on 3 separate days.... I'll be skipping out on this. It seems boring and bleak. And normally bleak atmospheres are a good thing but running around in narrow places fighting the same creatures with that lame battle system... meh.

Destor

04-23-2010, 04:53 AM

i fucking loved this game and am surprised by the reaction its gotten...meh. gonna go play some more...

Kalyx triaD

04-23-2010, 09:08 AM

http://cache-03.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/04/500x_cosplay_017.jpg

LoDownM

05-01-2010, 12:05 AM

Ugh this game. Had Raines almost staggered and dead 5 times and each time he charges me and kills me. So stupid if the character you're controlling dies its game over.

OssMan

05-03-2010, 03:36 AM

Only bosses that were really challenging were 3 or 4 Cie'th stone missions that I haven't beaten yet. Spent like 432389 hours leveling up in the cavern on Gran Pulse then got fed up and went to "progress the story" so I could get a crystarium expansion and beat the fuckers like the Neochu and Gigantuar, but the crystarium does not expand until you beat the game, what the fuck is that.

OssMan

05-03-2010, 03:47 AM

The prelude and prologue songs were nowhere in this game :(

LoDownM

05-03-2010, 09:06 AM

Finally did beat the dude, kept getting extreme unlucky and he'd charge lighting before I could rebuff from his aoe dispell, so I wasn't getting any damage reduction from protect.

I like the Pulse stuff so far, at least it gives "some" freedom like older Final Fantasy's do.

RoXer

06-06-2010, 04:01 PM

So how important is upgrading weapons/accessories? And should I bother learning new roles or focus on leveling up the ones they have?

alvarado52

06-06-2010, 04:05 PM

they all have core roles they are good at. For the sake of keeping it simple, keep your team to Lightning, Fang, and a medic/synergist. Characters are better at other roles than others, like the emo kid and Vanille tend to be good medic/syndergists, while Fang and one dude are good tanks/commandos.

RoXer

06-06-2010, 04:16 PM

That's what I'm saying, I should continue to level up their natural roles, right? Don't bother leveling up Hope as a Comando. Etc

alvarado52

06-06-2010, 04:22 PM

i'd stick to their natural roles and delve into a secondary for each a little

RoXer

06-06-2010, 04:26 PM

And how important are weapon/accesories upgrades?

I just want to beat the game as fast and easy as I can.

alvarado52

06-06-2010, 04:30 PM

WHAT THE FUCK ROXER!? DO I HAVE 'PRIMA GUIDE' WRITTEN ON MY FUCKING HEAD?

Kalyx triaD

06-06-2010, 04:32 PM

The words look more like 'fence jumper' to me, idk.

OssMan

06-06-2010, 04:38 PM

The secondary roles get ridiculously expensive, they are definitely not worth leveling up if you're trying to beat the game fast. You can't even get them past level 2 or 3 until after you beat the game, and ultimately they have less nodes overall than the core roles. Regardless, it takes around 2.5 million CP to master any one role.

Upgrading weapons can be a pretty good idea, I have Lightning's Omega Weapon right now and it's like strength+600 so not bad. I found it better to just level up one weapon like crazy and then when you're done with it/can't upgrade it anymore you move to the next one. Also a good tip is if you feed one weapon 36 "vials" of Vibrant Ooze you will get bonus X 3 on that weapon, probably the most efficient way to do so. Then just give it whatever amount of items will give it the most EXP before it goes down to bonus X 1.

Fignuts

06-06-2010, 06:14 PM

Who are you Roxer, comrade question?

LoDownM

06-06-2010, 06:15 PM

I still haven't beat this, haven't played it in months either, still at the start of disc 3 doing the Cieth shit.

OssMan

06-06-2010, 06:21 PM

It isn't that hard. I did like 55 of the Cieth missions before continuing the game and I was super overpowered for the final boss.

RoXer

06-22-2010, 04:04 AM

Beat it

Pintint

10-05-2012, 05:20 PM

Didn't find a thread for this game, so posting one myself.

What did you guys think about Final Fantasy 13? So far it seems like the lowest rated FF game of all time. Even as a huge Final Fantasy fan, having played through nearly every single FF game, I skipped on the game at launch and waited to get it when it dropped to $19.99.

I am seriously surprised at the game so far. Does not feel like a Final Fantasy game at all, might as well have been some generic low budget JRPG. The storyline is terrible and the combat system seems to be a step back. I welcome companies trying to change things and refresh old concepts, but the changes in the combat system in 13 are a serious step back, with pretty much having the game play itself for you.

I haven't gotten very far in so far, so I hope it gets better, but I really doubt it.
What did you guys think of Final Fantasy 13?

Corporate CockSnogger

10-05-2012, 05:24 PM

I thought it was okay, although not very memorable. It was pretty easy though and it was lacking the freedom of other FF games as well. The story was alright though.

RoXer

10-05-2012, 05:51 PM

The words look more like 'fence jumper' to me, idk.

ahahahaha

OssMan

10-05-2012, 07:03 PM

It's fucking stupid. I liked it at first before I realized you do the same entire thing for the whole game.

alvarado52

10-06-2012, 09:25 PM

l'Cie are essentially pawns that do bidding for the Fal'Cie, which are basically Gods. If l'Cie disobey their focus, they turn into monsters. Pulse is the lower world which peeps in Cocoon fear, and vice versa.

Ragnarok is the only thing capable of destroying a god. Only way Ragnarok comes around is via a Pulse l'Cie.

Did that help a lil?

I think its funny that i wrote this trying to explain to Roxer the story, and here i am confused about the story reading my explanation of it

Fignuts

10-07-2012, 02:49 AM

That's probably because the story is terrible.

Tom Guycott

10-07-2012, 11:34 AM

I'm gonna share a little nugget of truth here: I never finished playing. Didn't even get that far.

I didn't totally dislike the game itself, wanted to give it a chance... but just one thing completely ruin'd the entire experience for me:

http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs46/f/2009/218/7/d/Hope_Estheim_by_papa_pauch.jpg

The minute I was forced to play as this asshole as my party leader is the last day the disc saw the inside of my 360. I was done. I hated Hope that much. I don't even care if he somehow redeems himself later in the game... I lost all desire to even try to get that far because of the little douchebag.