Is TNA's over crowded roster a good thing?

[Jordan]

Simple question, TNA has a ton of guys on their roster. And a lot of big names and legends, as well as the successful few home grown talents.

With only two hours a week will TNA drown themselves with too many workers? Is there enough time to get the best use of AJ Styles, Sting, Jeff Jarrett, Mick Foley, Kevin Nash, Pac, Hall, Young, Flair, RVD, Daniels, Anderson, Angle, 3-D, Raven, Rhino, Jeff Hardy, Matt Morgan, Orlando Jordan, The Pope, Abyss, Wolfe, Williams, Red, Hernandez, Kendrick, Dr. Stevie...

As well as the Knockouts Division and at least 35 minutes of Hogan and Bischoff?

I may have missed a few bigger names, who knows.

One thing TNA has going for itself is the way they have booked matches lately. The matches are usually short and sweet (not always). They are trying to be more realistic and that is fine with me as long as it is action packed and makes sense. A real fight won't usually last 10-20 minutes, more like 2-3, and TNA has shown they can pull off a decent match in that amount of time with some workers.

Also TNA is realistic in that the wrestlers don't always win with their finishers, Nash beat Foley quick with a boot to the face a few weeks ago, I loved that.

RVD went over sting really fast by catching him off gaurd, and I thought that was a good booking move, I know not everybody will agree on that one though.

There are probably more and better example of this, but I don't watch TNA always, just occasionally.

Bottom line, I think TNA needs clean up the roster a little bit.

But who should go? Personally I could do without Angle, Abyss, and Anderson. I know Angle is an IWC hero, but I could care less. He is nowhere near as good as he used to be, both in the ring and on the mic. Sure he can still pull off a MOTYC every now and then, when he faces somebody like Styles, or Wolf. But I can't stand his promo's and I get easily bored with his matches.

Abyss is so fat and he's retarded. Pretty simple. Why do I want to see a fat guy shriek and scream on TV like he has his leg caught in a bear trap every time I see him. Horrible character, I have no idea what Hogan is thinking in Abyss being one of the guys who can carry TNA. He makes TNA look 2nd rate, why? Because WWE would never use him on that level, he is great for a southern indy or a hardcore indy, but he is not someone I want to spend time watching on TV.

Anderson fucking sucks. His matches suck, his promo's aren't the worst but ultimately they are pointless and I can't remember a thing he says after he is done, other of course than his name repetition.

Also, I know that most won't agree with this but I hate AJ Styles as World Heavyweight Champion, and in a Monday Night War, if you turn on TNA and see AJ Styles being called World Heavyweight Champion, and then turn on Raw and see Batista, it's just laughable. Sure he can work a high paced entertaining match, but so could Owen Hart (10x better than AJ IMO) and he wasn't even big enough to get over in the main event.

I feel like I could kick AJ's ass, why couldn't fat ass Abyss or anyone else on the roster?

Also, he is so fucking bland it makes me yak. His Ric Flair rip off promo's are just amateur and pathetic. It makes me cringe every time I hear his horrible southern accent (and I'm from Tennessee).

So who do I think should be pushed? No fucking shit, the best guys for the job. Sting is the biggest wrestler they have and they just turned him heel. Like Lance Storm said, PEOPLE WANT TO CHEER STING, NOT BOO HIM. Fucking idiots. Sting still has several years in him if he wants, and if TNA treated him like a god he would probably stick around.

He has the biggest legacy of any wrestler they have, and they should capitalize on that.

Matt Morgan, hello TNA? I understand the point of building up a guy but how about taking the guy who is over 7 feet and can move like a light heavyweight and giving him the Lesnar treatment? Why should anyone ever beat Matt Morgan? He is the biggest and baddest dude on the roster.

POPE isn't he the number one contender? Didn't he win a tourament that TNA spent a month building up (albeit nobody cared) WHY IS ABYSS FACING STYLES AND NOT POPE?

Desmond Wolf, some seem to disagree but ol Nigel is one of the best in the world. He is an amazing wrestler, and should either hog the X title until somebody thrilling comes along, or put him in the main event picture. He has the ego and charisma to be a top guy, and the skills to make extremely technical submission wrestling interesting to even a casual fan.

Joe ahhh god. Boy did they fuck this up. Luckily nobody was watching so they can start all over. UNDEFEATED FOR A YEAR. Just fucking do it. He is extremely marketable in that way. I hope that while he is gone right now he is hitting the gym. He doesn't need to rippling muscles but fuck he looks horrible right now. Maybe is his new attire, but I hate the way he looks now, not cool at all.

So thats my rant and TNA whish list. PLEASE get rid of Angle, Anderson, and Abyss. PLEASE stop pushing AJ to the moon. PLEASE stop showing Hogan and E so much. PLEASE fire the nasty boys. PLEASE push people with a connection with the crowd.

AND I'm done. So you can just comment or post your TNA hired/fired/whatever wishlist.

[Gertner]

Nothing about TNA is good. Nothing.

[The Show Off]

Before I start with anything, let me say I agree... the TNA roster is over crowded. They have too many people to keep up with over the course of a show. As for your comments let me counter for a second...

Abyss: I agree that his shreiking retarded gimmick is quite annoying. Abyss falls into the same category as Kane to my estimation. They're both good workers (Kane being better) that are ruined when treated like humans. Abyss shouldn't be human, he should be a beast.

AJ Styles: I understand you feel he's too small for the main event, but he's one oif the few wrestlers that TNA has built from scratch. He is amazing in the ring, he's one of the few people on the TNA roster that when you seem him go you think "This guy is nothing like the WWE" which is good at this time. I think he should have his gimmick tweeked but I think he should also maintain his main event spot.

Sting: 100% agree people don't want to hate Sting, he shouldn't be heel. But I'll give it time before I declare it another heel turn failure for Sting , though that's the way it'll go.

Kurt Angle: He's needed to lighten up since he entered TNA. In between the ropes he's a step slower than WWE but he's still better than 99% of wrestlers not just in TNA but in the World (Shawn Michaels & Chris Jericho are the only that immediatly come to mind being better than Angle between the ropes). His main problem is his serious brooding or angry promos, like I said he needs to lighten up, but he shouldn't be cut.

Matt Morgan: I think TNA doesn't want to push him to the moon until he's completely ready. TNA knows what they have here (one of the few times they do know what they have). I think their holding him off for a big title win after a big feud.

Pope D'Angelo Dinero: I've been a mark of his since he was Sylvester Terkay's sparring partner. TNA's gotten him just right. As for his title shot he gets that at Lockdown as they've mentioned sevral times on TV. He's practically the only thing in TNA that no one can bitch about. He's getting a big push and putting on good matches and entertaining promos.

Desmond Wolfe: Great competitor, being used pretty well. I'm looking foward to seeing where his aligence with AJ Styles and Ric Flair goes.

Samoa Joe: They've fallen off of him with their booking but it seems this abduction angle is going to lead to him coming back with a big push which is good with me.

[Steveviscious89]

I actually disagree in regards to Sting. I've been a Sting fan for years, and I can tell you that every attempt to turn him heel failed miserably up until this past Monday. I think they knew that in order to get him booed, he would have to be just relentless. Having him go ballistic with the bat and pushing Dixie Carter really made him look like a first class jerk. This was the only way to do it, and call me stupid, but I bought it.

I do think the roster is getting a bit crowded. I was just commenting to my brother that there has been a little discontinuity between who appears on the shows from the week to week. Hopefully the Nasty Boys thing is finished. I remember this happening in the WCW days too, but they had other shows for the other guys.

[Mr Amazing]

Tna totally has a over crowded roster that being said I believe Tna needs to get another show so they can showcase more talent on a weekly basis Just dont do a brand extension with it right away.With two show you can split up the talent so on one you can have Angle,Pope,Sting,RVD,MCMG,Team 3D,Jeff Jarret,etc and AJ Styles,Abyss,Flair, Hardy,Joe,Wolfe,Jordan,Daniel,Kaz,etc and mix it up each week

[The Show Off]

The following TNA wrestlers should be fired:

Amazing Red
Brutus Magnus
Bubba the Love Sponge (not a wrestler, but God damn get rid of him)
Consequences Creed
Dr. Stevie (I love Richards but their's no need for him)
Jay Lethal
Jeff Hardy (not necessary but I guess he might be a ratings grabber some time)
Jeff Jarrett (no need for all these main eventers)
Jesse Neal
Jimmy Hart
Kevin Nash (maybe move him to commentary but not as a wrestler)
Kiyoshi
The Nasty Boys
Orlando Jordan (I like him but Pope is Orlando Jordan X100)
Raven (maybe move him to commentary as well)
Rhino
Rob Terry
Sting (no need for all these main eventers)
Shannon Moore
Shark Boy
Team 3D (their time of intrest has passed)
Tomko


The following wrestlers I would hire:

Jimmy Jacobs
The Kings of Wrestling (Claudio Castagnoli & Chris Hero)
The Briscoes
Joey Ryan
Paul London
Daizee Haze
Roxxi
Kevin Steen


The Following wrestlers I would elevate/change:

Abyss: Shut him up and make Jimmy Jacobs his mouthpiece/manipulator.

The Motor City Machine Guns: Make them a main focus of the show give them a 6 month plus title reign in which they put on 10 to 20 minute matches ever PPV. Basically make them Edge & Christian of this decade. Funny promos with amazing matches.

Angelina Love: Put he back with the beautiful people.

Daniels: Make him a main event main stay.

Eric Young: Give him back a stable to run.

Hernandez & Homicide: Have them be allied with one another both chasing after singles goals but helping eachother out as unpredictable psyco heels that cause havoc where ever they go.

Mick Foley: Limit his matches to 3 or 4 times a year and make him the opposing athurity figure to Hogan/Bischoff.

Robert Roode: About time he got a real shot at singles glory. The Global title seems good for him.

Samoa Joe: Watch ROH DVD's and do that with Joe... sans 20+ month title reign.

[The Pope]

I think TNA will end up getting a second show on Thursdays.

[treyace]

yes they do need a second show so they can actually have time for everybodys storylines
just don't do what WWE did and make two world champions

[Mr Amazing]

yes they do need a second show so they can actually have time for everybodys storylines
just don't do what WWE did and make two world champions

Do you think they will do a brand extension Draft like wwe did in 2002 or not

[roach21]

As strange as this may sound, I believe having The Pope as the champ and face of TNA going into the Monday Night Wars might be the smart move for TNA. AJ's phenomenal in the ring, but his character seems so forced.... I see Rock esque potential in The Pope. No I'm not saying he will be the next Rock, I just feel he has the charisma and potential to develop his character along similar lines as his career goes on. Plus he allows them to appeal to other demographics and let's be honest, who would be funnier on Regis and Kelly AJ or The Pope?

I think they missed an opportunity to set the foundation for a great feud between the two for years to come. Maybe when AJ and Flair were ganging up on Pope the lights should have dimmed and Sting should have cleared house helping the Pope out. Then you have weeks of buildup with Flair mentoring AJ and Sting mentoring Pope. This is even better because of the great history between Sting and Flair. Imagine AJ and Flair versus Sting and Pope for your a Monday main event instead of shitty Hogan and Abyss. Then at Lockdown the two could tear the house down in a legit no gimmick match with Sting and Flair in their corners. That way the young guys get the rub from two of the greatest of all time and their kind of now apart of that legacy and history between the two.

Give Flair a goddamn stable! Wolfe, Anderson, AJ (maybe), and Joe could be great as a group with Flair as their mouthpiece.

Jarrett should go away. I think Foley would work great as a sort of foil to Bischoff. Maybe give them some kind of power sharing deal with Hulk playing neutral intermediary.

Kill Bubba and the Nasties.

Don't chew me out for this... but I think they should kill the band off, send Waltman back to Mexico and put Hall at the announce table. Dude is entertaining and does have a mind for the business. I'm not sure about Kev... he still can go in some capacity but it seems like he really truly doesn't give a damn and is just earning a check. Scale him down. Maybe make him a manager.

Build a tag team division! Have Team 3D be the bad ass gatekeepers of the belts... bring in the Briscoes, Hero and Claudio, Generation Me (great team gay name), MCMG (Murder City Machine Guns fuck this pg Motor city crap), reunite LAX, maybe even pair Matt with Shannon and have some amazing matches. I honestly believe TNA will go a lot further in competing with WWE if they build up a great tag division rather than the X division.

Same for the Knockouts division. There are some great women wrestlers who aren't too hard on the eyes either who can be brought in. Plus they're consistently TNA's highest ratings earners. Stay away from wastes of time like Maria, Candice Michelle, etc... although if you let Sunny and Missy Hyatt's crazy asses come in for a little and be bitches on the mic that could be an interesting angle especially with their history in the business. Worked shoots perhaps.

Abyss's character now reminds of of Kane when they had him a damn comedy character with his freaks are cool bs. If Hogan truly is done in the ring for awhile let Abyss "retire" Hogan. Have him snap and really beat the hell out of him. Maybe even barbed wire and a choke slam on tacks if Hogan's old ass can take on for the team. Cut to Brooke crying and boom... you have a maniacal monster. You might even have a program with Foley where Abyss reveals he has had some kind of obsession for Mick (thus explaining the similar attire). Have Abyss beat the hell out of Mick and put him out for a few weeks at Bischoff's request. Let him take over Mick's persona and start using the mandible claw. Have him stalk Mick's wife and kids or something and when Abyss finally goes too far Foley returns as Cactus Jack and they have a crazy ass hardcore match at a PPV.

I see Kurt as TNA's Shawn, there's always a place for him at the top of the card, but no reason to have him in the title picture. He shines without it.

X Division... If they do try to do two shows I hope they make the X division exclusive to one show. I'm not really that impressed with it as a whole although some of the guys are great wrestlers.

[The Show Off]

As strange as this may sound, I believe having The Pope as the champ and face of TNA going into the Monday Night Wars might be the smart move for TNA. AJ's phenomenal in the ring, but his character seems so forced.... I see Rock esque potential in The Pope. No I'm not saying he will be the next Rock, I just feel he has the charisma and potential to develop his character along similar lines as his career goes on. Plus he allows them to appeal to other demographics and let's be honest, who would be funnier on Regis and Kelly AJ or The Pope?

I don't see much of The Rock in Pope, D'Angelo Dinero reminds me more of Slick but a Slick that can wrestle.

[St. Jimmy]

Morgan sounds like a poofter. He has the grace of a epileptic swan. I seriously cannot stand him. Anderson hasn't done a fucking thing in TNA and probably won't, I don't understand why they're trying to give Abyss such a rub - he's a bland generic hoss who couldn't wrestle his way out of a paper-bag. I also hate AJ Styles. Nothing about him is appealing. He can do some flippy shit, other than that he's terrible. His mic skills are atrocious - when he picks up the mic I absolutely expect him to make anecdotes about wife beating and nascar, and the fact that TNA wants to use the corpse of Flair to try and get him over shows how bad he truly is. The rest of the talent they're just pissing on. Daniels is lost in the shuffle, Soma Joe is in some dumbfuck storyline (again), Wolfe is fucking jobbing to Burke (who for some reason is the number one contender even though he has no real chance of winning), and the X Division is once again over shadowed by Hogan's ego. They're not improving their product, they're making it worse. HOW IN THE BLUE FUCK IS THAT EVEN POSSIBLE?!

[The Pope]

The last thing TNA needs is two World Titles

[treyace]

Do you think they will do a brand extension Draft like wwe did in 2002 or not

no that would be a bad idea

[The Pope]

The Draft was bad Idea, if there was never a draft the Titles would actually have some value to them.

[Xero]

The Draft was bad Idea, if there was never a draft the Titles would actually have some value to them.

The draft was necessary. Making two world titles, though, was not. That was the bad move.

[XL]

I said the same thing a few weeks back. Since then they've added more players to the game!

It's a tough one though. Do you drop the Angle's, Flair's, Jarrett's, Nash's, etc - the guys that casual fans will say "WOW! That's Flair, what's going on here?" and watch the show to find out (these people do exist) or do you drop some of the younger, home grown talent that people don't know but will eventually be the big players in the company?

The situation at the moment just isn't sustainable.

Whilst the topic of "realism" was brought up, how realistic is it that someone will wait 2 weeks to exact their revenge? It already stretches the concept of reality by making us buy into the fact that they would wait a week!

Was Joe's kidnapping even mentioned on Monday's show?

[Jordan]

Wow, great responses. I don't mind or take it personal that anyone might disagree with me. But I am glad to see that some are tired of the same shit I am.

One thing I forgot to say was how I feel about Jeff Jarrett. I really like him. For some reason, I don't know I have never been a huge fan of his. But he can really shine in the ring, he can really go. He is worth keeping around to teach the X-Division guys who are headed to the main event how to work a proper match with psychology, because he is fucking great at that. Some how I have gained respect for him, I know he's not as gifted as Styles or even Angle both whom I dislike but I really enjoy his presence. He is TNA.

TNA has some great talent, its really incredible. Someone I'd like to talk about is Raven. Raven isn't done yet, Raven still rocks. He was once a TNA champ and I don't think he can reach that level again, but with some careful booking and good opponents, like Jarrett, Raven would be fantastic to build up some younger workers to a more acceptable main event style.

I don't need to see flip flops and doo da's when I am watching a World Heavyweight Title Match. I want to see two dudes fucking fighting, power moves, brawling, using the ring environment, PSYCHOLOGY.

It never gets old too see the most simple things. If somebody were to work the shit out of RVD's legs, how the hell could he beat them? He can't all of his offense is using his legs. How do you take down Samoa Joe? As tough as any 7' footer around. Well the psychology of working his legs won't work because he is too short, so fucking try to knock him out! Take out the head....

It's just simple shit like that, that I want to see. And a lot of the time TNA half way pulls this off.

Onto the topic of TNA getting a new show, I don't think it will happen any time soon. With Impact and Epics I think they are set for now. They spoke of maybe doing a Knockouts Show, or an X-Division show, or a split of both. But that's only going to take away from Impact!

I thought making Impact! 3 hours would be a good idea, but I am not so sure I or anybody else is patient enough to sit through something that is more than likely not going to make any sense or be followed up on (such as Joe's kidnapping). A brand split would be horrible, it took years for WWE to pull it off without everyone bitching, I doubt TNA could do it ever.

Also, I like ROH as much as the next guy, but there is NOBODY from ROH that will improv TNA right now. They have plenty of great workers that are better or as good as top ROH guys.

I think that guys like Raven, Stevie, Rhino, Tomko, Morley, Hernandez, and Jarrett are important to keep strong over the new guys or lower tier workers. And then put them in occasional world title matches on Impact to give credibility to the champ. These guys don't need a lot of air time. Give them 4-8 minutes to work a match and maybe a short promo. We don't need to see them over and over again throughout the show, there are just too many people for that to happen.

Look I know it would be stupid to fire Angle, and I don't think that should happen. I just want a change from him. I think it would be good if he became more of a character in the story lines for a while than a main wrestler.

Also wanted to say that I am not digging Jeff Hardy in TNA, he reminds me of himself the last time he was in TNA, which was sloppy and unimportant. Somehow WWE got him to really work hard and its obvious to me those days are long gone. So I am not interested in him, wouldn't even be interested if he went to WWE again.

Also, I'm not into Shannon Moore and it is ridiculous that he is wrestling Williams for the X-Title, what a lame match. How does he deserve this? Because he is friends with Jeff Hardy? Because he made a run in? Lame booking, lame wrestler with lame CAW look.

[Ruien]

The following TNA wrestlers should be fired:


Jay Lethal


What? :wtf:

[The Show Off]

What? :wtf:

He's talented in the ring, but out he's bland and won't be able to separate himself from the crowd.

[illmatic]

The following TNA wrestlers should be fired:

Amazing Red
Brutus Magnus
Bubba the Love Sponge (not a wrestler, but God damn get rid of him)
Consequences Creed
Dr. Stevie (I love Richards but their's no need for him)
Jay Lethal
Jeff Hardy (not necessary but I guess he might be a ratings grabber some time)
Jeff Jarrett (no need for all these main eventers)
Jesse Neal
Jimmy Hart
Kevin Nash (maybe move him to commentary but not as a wrestler)
Kiyoshi
The Nasty Boys
Orlando Jordan (I like him but Pope is Orlando Jordan X100)
Raven (maybe move him to commentary as well)
Rhino
Rob Terry
Sting (no need for all these main eventers)
Shannon Moore
Shark Boy
Team 3D (their time of intrest has passed)
Tomko


The following wrestlers I would hire:

Jimmy Jacobs
The Kings of Wrestling (Claudio Castagnoli & Chris Hero)
The Briscoes
Joey Ryan
Paul London
Daizee Haze
Roxxi
Kevin Steen


The Following wrestlers I would elevate/change:

Abyss: Shut him up and make Jimmy Jacobs his mouthpiece/manipulator.

The Motor City Machine Guns: Make them a main focus of the show give them a 6 month plus title reign in which they put on 10 to 20 minute matches ever PPV. Basically make them Edge & Christian of this decade. Funny promos with amazing matches.

Angelina Love: Put he back with the beautiful people.

Daniels: Make him a main event main stay.

Eric Young: Give him back a stable to run.

Hernandez & Homicide: Have them be allied with one another both chasing after singles goals but helping eachother out as unpredictable psyco heels that cause havoc where ever they go.

Mick Foley: Limit his matches to 3 or 4 times a year and make him the opposing athurity figure to Hogan/Bischoff.

Robert Roode: About time he got a real shot at singles glory. The Global title seems good for him.

Samoa Joe: Watch ROH DVD's and do that with Joe... sans 20+ month title reign.
So you would get rid of 2 of their biggest draws yet keep mick foley wrestling(even a couple times a year)??? huh???

a) why would you get rid of Jeff Hardy? he can wrestle and draw ratings

b) why would you get rid of an icon like sting that people who tune in to watch?

And sorry but Daniels is waaay too small to be a world champion. I agree with what others have said with AJ. Both are in the same categories. They dont belong in the World Championship picture. Its just as bad as when they made rey the champ in the WWE. Sorry but that is not believable.

[The Show Off]

So you would get rid of 2 of their biggest draws yet keep mick foley wrestling(even a couple times a year)??? huh???

a) why would you get rid of Jeff Hardy? he can wrestle and draw ratings

b) why would you get rid of an icon like sting that people who tune in to watch?

And sorry but Daniels is waaay too small to be a world champion. I agree with what others have said with AJ. Both are in the same categories. They dont belong in the World Championship picture. Its just as bad as when they made rey the champ in the WWE. Sorry but that is not believable.

The purpose of thread was to state why the TNA roster is or isn't over crowded. I'm of the opinion that the TNA roster is over crowded.

The reason why I would cut Jeff Hardy and Sting is because you have to eliminate people at the top as well as in the mid card in order to clear the roster. Sting I got rid of because every year he's thinking of retiring so instead of dealing with the instability year in and year out I just say cut him and let him join the WWE Hall of Fame.

As for Jeff Hardy he is equally as instable as Sting with his pending court appearance, so why make the gamble? Jeff is good in the ring and below average on the mic so not having him on the roster isn't all that bad. He's a draw but that has only been proved with the WWE machine behind him he has yet to be proven as a draw when he goes elsewhere. Because of all these question marks I would cut him.

Keeping Mick Foley around is because Foley can get anyone over at a whim. Foley is one of those unique talents that can put anyone over huge just by talking about them. Their are very few people in the history of wrestling that have that ability. He's a massive asset as an authority role that wrestles 3 or 4 times a year.

As for Daniels, I don't think he's too small. At the current moment he's roughly the same size as Kurt Angle. I also don't think that AJ Styles is too small to hold the championship. Both AJ and Daniels are also not like Rey for two reasons:

1. Daniels is billed as 5'10". AJ Styles is billed as 5'11". Kurt Angle is billed as 5'10". Rey Mysterio is billed as 5'6".

2. The TNA roster is decidedly smaller than the WWE roster so having someone "smaller" as a champion isn't as bad when the biggest guys he'd face are Abyss, Matt Morgan, & Hernandez as apposed to The Big Show, Great Khali, and The Undertaker.

And Daniels doesn't have the other issue people have with AJ Styles. Christopher Daniels isn't a guy that bases his matches off of spots and isn't bad on the mic. Daniels is a capable ring psycologist and is quite good on the mic. Their is no reason he shouldn't be a main eventer.

[Wishbone]

TNA is over populated at the moment if I had my way I'd drop
the nasty boyz(they suck plain and simple)
Raven(I like the guy but he's hardly even used)
Dr.Stevie(see Raven)
Jeff Jarrett(I mean c'mon this is just getting ridiculous)
Rob Terry(yeah that's what this business needs another roided up meathead)
Bubba the f'n love sponge(to quote the miz "Really?")
Kioshi(or however you spell it)
Ric Flair(don't fire him just keep him out of the f'n ring!!!)

[Mr Amazing]

TNA is over populated at the moment if I had my way I'd drop
the nasty boyz(they suck plain and simple)
Raven(I like the guy but he's hardly even used)
Dr.Stevie(see Raven)
Jeff Jarrett(I mean c'mon this is just getting ridiculous)
Rob Terry(yeah that's what this business needs another roided up meathead)
Bubba the f'n love sponge(to quote the miz "Really?")
Kioshi(or however you spell it)
Ric Flair(don't fire him just keep him out of the f'n ring!!!)

Agreed also fire Olando Jordan

[James Steele]

Show Off, I just lost any respect I had for your wrestling knowledge.

[The Show Off]

Show Off, I just lost any respect I had for your wrestling knowledge.

About what? Perhaps I can try to earn it back.

[James Steele]

You would fire:


Jeff Hardy (not necessary but I guess he might be a ratings grabber some time)
Jeff Jarrett (no need for all these main eventers)
Kevin Nash (maybe move him to commentary but not as a wrestler)
Raven (maybe move him to commentary as well)
Rhino
Sting (no need for all these main eventers)
Team 3D


and replace them with:

Jimmy Jacobs
The Kings of Wrestling (Claudio Castagnoli & Chris Hero)
The Briscoes
Joey Ryan
Paul London
Daizee Haze
Roxxi
Kevin Steen


I understand what you are trying to do, but that would be suicidal on TNAs part. Especially firing Sting. There is no such thing as "too many main eventers" if you use them correctly.

[The Show Off]

You would fire:


Jeff Hardy (not necessary but I guess he might be a ratings grabber some time)
Jeff Jarrett (no need for all these main eventers)
Kevin Nash (maybe move him to commentary but not as a wrestler)
Raven (maybe move him to commentary as well)
Rhino
Sting (no need for all these main eventers)
Team 3D


and replace them with:

Jimmy Jacobs
The Kings of Wrestling (Claudio Castagnoli & Chris Hero)
The Briscoes
Joey Ryan
Paul London
Daizee Haze
Roxxi
Kevin Steen


I understand what you are trying to do, but that would be suicidal on TNAs part. Especially firing Sting. There is no such thing as "too many main eventers" if you use them correctly.

It wouldn't be suicidal...

Jeff Hardy hasn't been with TNA for 5 years and they've done fine in that period.

Jeff Jarrett was gone for 6 months last year and TNA did fine.

Kevin Nash barley wrestles and would be better utilized as a commentator because talking has always been the best fasset of his career.

Raven hasn't seriously wrestled for TNA for 5 years and they've been okay. The same think with Nash applies here.

Rhino wrestles for TNA for 2 months then disappears from television for 2 months then comes back for 2 months. TNA never misses him when he's gone.

Sting wasn't with the company for the past 4 months and TNA was fine.

Team 3D are just in the way of more exciting tag teams like Motor City Machine Guns, Beer Money and Generation Me. Not to mention the two tag teams I would hire would more than fill in that role.

[The Show Off]

I understand what you are trying to do, but that would be suicidal on TNAs part. Especially firing Sting. There is no such thing as "too many main eventers" if you use them correctly.

In theory you're correct that you can't have too many main eventers if they're used properly.

In practice main eventers clog the upper card so that up and comers can't be given the chance to take the ball. It's been true for wrestling for years...

Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels, and Kevin Nash didn't move up to the main event until Hulk Hogan, The Ultimate Warrior, and Randy Savage were practically done with the company...

Steve Austin, The Rock, & Triple H didn't move up to the main event until Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels, and Kevin Nash were practically done with the company.

Randy Orton, John Cena, and Batista didn't move up to the main event until The Rock and Steve Austin were done with the company.


Sure in the interim some guys main evented but they weren't big time main eventers (with the notable exception of The Undertaker). You need to have out with the old before you get in with the new.

[Arnold HamNegger]

With such a crowded roster, I still don't see the need to have Hogan and Flair in TWO matches on Monday, yet alot of talent was unused and or abused.

If they were hell bent on having blood, they could have had it actually mean something. Why not turn Hogan heel (like they were planning ) instead of Sting and have RVD run in for the save on Abyss by bloodying Flair & Hogan with some stiff Van Terminators? RVD would look strong as hell and the crowd would have been going apeshit. The pop RVD got as it is, was the loudest thing I've heard on Impact since I've started watching.

It still blows my mind that they didn't let RVD cut a promo at least. Hell, the Dudley's could even have been used for RVD's run in as support if Hogan turned heal and further develop their (bullshit) storyline with the Nasties if they really wanted the ending to be a cluster fuck.

Even if they had saved RVD & Hardy possibly together at the end may have set up a killer PPV tag match with Flair & AJ. RVD with Hardy could possibly pull some viewers away from WWE that were marks for both. Either way I'm way more entertained by TNA right now than I am WWE. Sting vs RVD will get my PPV money over anything WWE has to offer at the moment that doesn't include HBK and Taker.

Overall, I'm happier than a crack whore with a fist full of 50's that two wrestling shows are on Monday Nights again. ( Would say 3 but I don't get ROH with my cable provider.)

[The Pope]

The draft was necessary. Making two world titles, though, was not. That was the bad move.

The last thing TNA needs is two World Titles

[6-String King]

Everybody's a writer...TNA should fire all the current writers and hire everybody that has ever posted on any wrestling thread ever about what wrestling should do.

[Jordan]

What should a wrestling do stukkband?

[Jordan]

I gotta make a case here for Orlando Jordan. Now I am not crazy about the gimmick they are gonna use for him but in the ring, this guy is pretty great. He is quick, intense, has a good finisher. He has a good look and he has big time experience. I think he is an asset, and I like his work, so I hope he stays around.

And now... Daniels... Wow its tough, he has pretty much done it all in TNA, the only thing that is really left for him is a huge main event push. I don't know if he will get it under Hogan and Bischoffs booking though. I really don't see that happening. He's kind of stuck.

[Rollermacka]

I think that Amazing Red Consequences Creed Kiyoshi Shannon Moore Jay Lethal and Shark Boy are good in the X division and shouldnt be fired (maybe drop the Stone Cold and Machismo gimmicks)


Rob Terry and Brutus Magnus are still young and with time and a proper push could be a future main eventer down the line. I wanna say Jesse Neal has some "potential" as Rhyno and Team 3D's protege but we will see.

Rhino and Jeff Jarrett should take on a more mentoring role.

Jimmy Hart and The Nasties, Dr. Stevie and Raven, Team 3D do add some legitimacy to the tag team division. There a good way to build up some younger teams in TNA and make TNA's tag team division as amazing as WWE's was in the mid 90's.

I'd say get rid of Jeff Hardy, Orlando Jordan, Tomko Kevin, Nash, Sting and Bubba the Love Sponge of the names listed

[Mr. Nerfect]

If TNA got a second show, I could see a reason for the huge roster they have. Not two separate rosters -- just a second Thursday show, or something. Here are the talent I would personally cut from the TNA roster.

Brian Knobbs: The dude looks horrible. He can yell on the mic alright, but he's earned a bit of a paycheck. Time to ship him off for the good of TNA.

Brother Devon: Not right away. I'd phase these guys out. Have them put over Beer Money, Inc. on their way out the door. It's not that they are horrible or anything, it's just that they need to change their face/heel alignment every month or so to keep themselves relevant. If they want to be agents, fine, or they can run their wrestling school as a developmental territory for TNA. I dunno -- I just think they aren't neccessary to TNA's future when guys like Kurt Angle, Ric Flair, Hulk Hogan and Rob Van Dam are around.

Brother Ray: See Brother Devon. Except being an asshole means that Ray could be a pretty shitty road agent. So maybe just release him outright. He cuts good promos, and has got tag team wrestling down, but I just don't think he is a neccessary evil.

Consequences Creed: It's not that I dislike him as a performer, I just feel that he is a little bit stuck right now. Ideally, he'd be used to help out the X-Division, but I just can't see him succeeding too well there. Let him go, and see what he gets up to in his spare time. One day he could return and be an asset to the company.

Jeff Jarrett: No, I wouldn't release him from the company. That is just fucking stupid. I would move Jarrett off-screen, though. The dude has won like ten World Championships and is not seen as an icon of the business. I think he could end up being the victim of an assault by a bad-ass monster Abyss, or even Tomko playing Eric Bischoff's hit-man. Right him off from storylines for a bit, and he can mentor from backstage and focus on that side of the business. He's not needed on-air.

Jerry Sags: For the same reason as Brian Knobbs.

Kevin Nash: Just as far as in-ring competition goes. I think Nash would be great as a manager-type. Stick him back with The Motor City Machine Guns, or something. Not sure if that would make sense in TNA's storylines. You could also have him formerly become the manager of Eric Young and perhaps even Kiyoshi.

Mick Foley: Now this one might get a bit of backlash. I'm just personally sick of Foley, amazing performer or not, doing the same thing every week. It feels like he is intruding by hanging around. Have either Tomko or Abyss beat him down, and keep him off TV for a few months. Let him do his stand-up comedy, and write another book or something. He can always come back later.

Orlando Jordan: I like OJ more than most, I really do. He's not bad at all on the mic, and he's pretty damn decent in the ring. He's in good shape, and I think the dude is really quite underrated. There's nothing that really sells him to an audience, though. Jordan doesn't feel needed, and that's his only problem as a performer. Advise him to go to Japan, and put on some fantastic matches or something and see what happens in the future.

Raven: I would maybe consider making this guy the color commentator on a second show, but assuming they don't get one, I think Raven is a pretty safe cut, considering he really doesn't do anything. He could make a fantastic manager and all that, but I dunno. It just feels like you'd be making the dude try to fit. He could disappear and no one would even notice right now, because he's not really doing anything.

Scott Hall: The dude looks drunk all the time. It's hard to buy him as anything close to relevant in today's day and age. He needs to be written off by Eric Young ASAP.

Shark Boy: Maybe they could take the mask of him, slip him into the X-Division and he would be all refreshed. I think he could be safely cut without hurting their profits too much, though.

Sting: This is another big cut that I think may stir some people up. It's just that Sting is no longer that relevant. At this point, him being in TNA is white noise compared to Kurt Angle, Hulk Hogan, Rob Van Dam, Ric Flair and Jeff Hardy being there. He's always considering retiring, and it always feels like they are trying to make him fit. He was good in TNA for a while, and they've got some footage that they can use of him. I think it may be time to let the guy go to the WWE for fantasy run there, though.

Syxx-Pac: He can work still, but I don't feel like he adds enough. He's also feels like a dinosaur for some reason. Now is the time for other X-Division guys to step up.

So there you go. If I had to hire some people, I would sign Paul London to team with Brian Kendrick, Chris Hero & Claudio Castagnoli to do their Kings of Wrestling thing in TNA, The Briscoes to help out in the tag team/X-Division, Paul Birchall to team with Brutus Magnus as a new incarnation of The British Invasion, El Generico & Kevin Steen for both tag team and singles action, Alissa Flash given a proper push and Gregory Helms to team with Shannon Moore, Lacey (as in Jimmy's Lacey), and some more women in general.

I know that's a lot of tag team guys; but I could see them also slipping into the X-Division/Global Division, and I feel that TNA could make the most money by looking where the WWE is weak, and providing a strong counter-point to that. Tag team wrestling, the X-Division and the Knockouts are great examples of this.

To really boost the X-Division, I say fuck Rob Van Dam and Jeff Hardy in the main event. Have them come out and say that the reason they signed with TNA was because of the X-Division, and how they get to mesh their unpredictable styles against other young masters of their craft. Hell, have Kurt Angle do the same thing. Desmond Wolfe could also be slipped in there occasionally. Don't be afraid to have some of your top guys fight for that title.

[Mr. JL]

TNA's roster is way over crowded.

Eric Bischoff and Hulk Hogan are involved too much in skits and angles. Example: There is no need for Hogan to be involved in the RVD-Sting angle.

RVD-Sting angle. I think Sting beating RVD with a bat is the first REAL time that Sting has gotten heat and legit BOO'S!

[Jordan]

Thats not an RVD/Sting angle, its a Hogan/Sting angle.