Jordan
03-15-2010, 02:25 PM
I just wanted to talk a little bit about independent wrestling...
So lets start with Ring of Honor. ROH was at one time a very prestigious promotion because of the constant amount of thrilling matches that outshined both TNA and WWE on a yearly basis. However after the departure of Gabe Saplosky, I feel like ROH has turned into a product MUCH different than the original goal.
I actually think Jim Cornette is making the product worse, it is become the new Smokey Mountain Wrestling in a way. Sure they have some really great workers like Davey Richards, Chris Hero, The Briscoes, El Generico, Eddie Edwards, Kenny Omega, Austin Aries, and Castaganoli. But some of their roster is just unimpressive, and comes off third rate. TNA obviously have this same quality from time to time with some of the guys they hire (Nasty Boys, and the other two huge fat guys they were using last year).
Back to ROH. I do miss the old days of wrestling and ROH has a sort of spirit that lived in the early 90's I feel, with strong Kayfabe and a more sports oriented approach that I miss. BUT, this approach isn't going to be the "next hot thing" in wrestling like ROH originally was. There isn't anything you'll see on ROH on HD that you won't see in TNA's X-Division (for the most part, I don't want to take too much away from ROH as they do have really good matches). But in reality most of their guys can't cut a compelling promo to save their lives.
Ahh... anyway, do you guys like ROH? Those who have watched it.
Do you like the direction ROH has been going in the last few months or do you miss the old days?
Do you think ROH will become hot again, or have the smart marks ruined it for everybody else?
Or has Jim Cornette ruined it?
OR has TNA and WWE taken away too many ROH top stars, if so do you think that they can rebuild their current roster to have the respect that guys like Joe, Styles, Daniels, Nigel, and Danielson had?
Also, comment on any other indy promotion you feel could be hot shit in a few months or years.
Dragon Gate USA seems to be a hit with the reviews I have read, but obviously they don't really have a way to market that type of wrestling to the masses very well. You pretty much have to be a die hard wrestling fan to know about DG:USA let alone order the PPV or buy a tape.
Does anybody know if DG:USA has made money so far?
Other indy promotions seem to be trying new things, I am going to be checking out Lucha VaVOOM soon in NYC. It seems great. They mix sex and violence and it seems pretty cool.
PWG also seems to go the comedy approach (I am not 100% sure as I have never seen a whole PWG show). To the people who know PWG, does it have the potential to grow into a bigger promotion or do you think it will stay as a Cali based regional fad?
I don't really keep up with any indy's other than those above. However, one more thought. It would be cool with WWC or IWA Puerto Rico would broadcast their shows online with english commentators, I think they could make a little bit of money doing that, or somehow manage to get it on some US TV station.
So lets start with Ring of Honor. ROH was at one time a very prestigious promotion because of the constant amount of thrilling matches that outshined both TNA and WWE on a yearly basis. However after the departure of Gabe Saplosky, I feel like ROH has turned into a product MUCH different than the original goal.
I actually think Jim Cornette is making the product worse, it is become the new Smokey Mountain Wrestling in a way. Sure they have some really great workers like Davey Richards, Chris Hero, The Briscoes, El Generico, Eddie Edwards, Kenny Omega, Austin Aries, and Castaganoli. But some of their roster is just unimpressive, and comes off third rate. TNA obviously have this same quality from time to time with some of the guys they hire (Nasty Boys, and the other two huge fat guys they were using last year).
Back to ROH. I do miss the old days of wrestling and ROH has a sort of spirit that lived in the early 90's I feel, with strong Kayfabe and a more sports oriented approach that I miss. BUT, this approach isn't going to be the "next hot thing" in wrestling like ROH originally was. There isn't anything you'll see on ROH on HD that you won't see in TNA's X-Division (for the most part, I don't want to take too much away from ROH as they do have really good matches). But in reality most of their guys can't cut a compelling promo to save their lives.
Ahh... anyway, do you guys like ROH? Those who have watched it.
Do you like the direction ROH has been going in the last few months or do you miss the old days?
Do you think ROH will become hot again, or have the smart marks ruined it for everybody else?
Or has Jim Cornette ruined it?
OR has TNA and WWE taken away too many ROH top stars, if so do you think that they can rebuild their current roster to have the respect that guys like Joe, Styles, Daniels, Nigel, and Danielson had?
Also, comment on any other indy promotion you feel could be hot shit in a few months or years.
Dragon Gate USA seems to be a hit with the reviews I have read, but obviously they don't really have a way to market that type of wrestling to the masses very well. You pretty much have to be a die hard wrestling fan to know about DG:USA let alone order the PPV or buy a tape.
Does anybody know if DG:USA has made money so far?
Other indy promotions seem to be trying new things, I am going to be checking out Lucha VaVOOM soon in NYC. It seems great. They mix sex and violence and it seems pretty cool.
PWG also seems to go the comedy approach (I am not 100% sure as I have never seen a whole PWG show). To the people who know PWG, does it have the potential to grow into a bigger promotion or do you think it will stay as a Cali based regional fad?
I don't really keep up with any indy's other than those above. However, one more thought. It would be cool with WWC or IWA Puerto Rico would broadcast their shows online with english commentators, I think they could make a little bit of money doing that, or somehow manage to get it on some US TV station.