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6-String King
03-20-2010, 06:03 PM
Why is it popular to grow a beard after a heel turn? CM Punk, Batista, Hollywood Hogan, Gary Busey.

AngryMidjit
03-20-2010, 06:07 PM
because jesus and mohammad had beards, and they are the cause of most of the evil done in the world

Jordan
03-20-2010, 06:07 PM
Because you can't see the whole face, thus you don' trust the person as much. Simple psychology. And it can look more bad ass.

Vastardikai
03-20-2010, 06:43 PM
It's actually an old Carny thing.

Face is short for "Babyface." This is because they were often clean shaven. And the Heels had facial hair, to prove their heel-dom.

This is all to the best of my knowledge, I could be wrong on some aspect.

James Diesel
03-20-2010, 07:33 PM
http://www.kocosports.com/mmatn/steve_austin.jpg

Droford
03-20-2010, 08:18 PM
It's actually an old Carny thing.

Face is short for "Babyface." This is because they were often clean shaven. And the Heels had facial hair, to prove their heel-dom.

This is all to the best of my knowledge, I could be wrong on some aspect.

That really makes a lot of sense.

HBPunk
03-20-2010, 08:20 PM
That rarely makes a lot of sense.

Heel-dom? Shouldn't they have grown hair on their heels?

Triple Naitch
03-20-2010, 08:21 PM
Get the fuck out with this.

The Pope
03-20-2010, 08:22 PM
Eugene was such a heel.

Triple Naitch
03-20-2010, 08:23 PM
http://www.tpww.net/forums/showthread.php?t=96624

KIRA
03-20-2010, 08:24 PM
In Punks case he went a step further and let his chest hair grow as well

The Pope
03-20-2010, 08:26 PM
In Punks case he went a step further and let his chest hair grow as well

That's not heel-ish, that's just hot.

Dorkchop
03-20-2010, 08:32 PM
Heels used to wear black boots back in the day. It was a Thursday.

50 to 100% of that is correct.

KIRA
03-20-2010, 08:33 PM
That's not heel-ish, that's just hot.

In a sense it is heelish a lot of people are put off by chest hair(present company obviously excluded) it furthers the look Punk has of an unwashed vagrant,but you're right its an awesome change character wise.

Nicky Fives
03-20-2010, 09:11 PM
Razor Ramon wasn't a heel all the time, and he had major beard/chest hair

CWK
03-20-2010, 09:21 PM
You know when I think full beards only and heels, the first name I think of is Hacksaw Jim Duggan. I thought I made really bad threads, thanks for lowering the bar, I feel better now.

Wishbone
03-20-2010, 09:24 PM
I think the PG era has amplified this a bit althow it would seem heels throughout wrestling history have on occasion done this not really sure why though

Xero
03-20-2010, 09:24 PM
Razor Ramon wasn't a heel all the time, and he had major beard/chest hair

That was his five o'clock shadow.

Chest included.

DLVH84
03-20-2010, 09:31 PM
I think it's taboo that you're a heel, because you got a full beard. There were so many faces with full beards...

Examples:
"Hacksaw" Jim Duggan
Eugene
"Dr. Death" Steve Williams
Michael "P.S." Hayes
"Gorgeous" Jimmy Garvin
Brad Armstrong
Junkyard Dog
The Road Warriors (Animal in particular)

Vastardikai
03-20-2010, 10:45 PM
There are exceptions to the rule, but since I said Carny (and not Kizarny), It should have implied that I meant right as the sport was starting to become worked.

Along the same lines as of why the heroes in Westerns wore White Hats and were clean shaven, while the villains wore black hats and were more apt to have a 5 o'clock shadow.

6-String King
03-20-2010, 11:08 PM
http://blog.lunarpages.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/billy_mays.jpg

Emperor Smeat
03-21-2010, 01:20 AM
Same reason why there are guidelines and tips on how to do job interviews regarding being clean-shaven as a positive and a beard as a negative.

Being clean-shaven to a future boss means your trying to present yourself in a "good" manner and respect the company/interview boss while having a beard means you either don't care about presenting yourself in a "good" manner or try to show some authority over the boss who probably has a beard due to having seniority/authority on the job.

Sixx
03-21-2010, 06:07 AM
http://nursemyra.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/charles-manson-1970-and-2009.jpg

Sixx
03-21-2010, 06:07 AM
Hm, I think they should also tattoo lame swastikas on their foreheads after a heel turn.

Rammsteinmad
03-21-2010, 08:33 AM
http://nursemyra.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/charles-manson-1970-and-2009.jpg

Who is this guy? This looks like it'll make some interesting Sunday afternoon reading.

Triple Naitch
03-21-2010, 08:48 AM
Charles Manson

tjmidnight420
03-21-2010, 11:23 AM
http://phenomforest.com/other/scc/wpapers/ministrytwo6x4.jpg

Favorite version of the Deadman gimmick.

The Pope
03-21-2010, 11:28 AM
I haven't read all the posts, but has anyone brought up Hollywood Hogan?

tjmidnight420
03-21-2010, 11:32 AM
I haven't read all the posts, but has anyone brought up Hollywood Hogan?

Once or twice...

The Pope
03-21-2010, 11:37 AM
Those hobo-like people in RoH have beards and are faces. I always forget their names but its like necro butcher and ________.

tjmidnight420
03-21-2010, 12:00 PM
Those hobo-like people in RoH have beards and are faces.

It's ROH... Their fans are smarter than that...;)

Stealth-Icon
03-21-2010, 12:11 PM
The next big superstar

http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/hidininbeard.jpg

Vastardikai
03-21-2010, 03:04 PM
Who is this guy? This looks like it'll make some interesting Sunday afternoon reading.

CHARLIE!!!!!!!!!!!!

Xero
03-21-2010, 03:05 PM
The next big superstar

http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/hidininbeard.jpg

Sheamus?

6-String King
03-21-2010, 06:19 PM
I haven't read all the posts, but has anyone brought up Hollywood Hogan?

It was in the very first post. You know the topic post. Did you read the very first post? The one that generally describes what current topic is being discussed?

Triple Naitch
03-21-2010, 08:53 PM
Shut the fuck up, noob. You stole my thread idea.

wwe2222
03-21-2010, 08:58 PM
I think its just more a change in attitude can be furthered by a change in appearance thus helping the fans catch on with the new personality.

Jimmy Cones
03-21-2010, 08:58 PM
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gotta be tough with the scruff!

6-String King
03-22-2010, 12:14 AM
Shut the fuck up, noob. You stole my thread idea.
LoL, did you just call me a noob and cry about somebody making a thread topic before you? I mean you're really angry about this. You went out of your way to tell me to shut the fuck up. Then you went as far as to call me the incredibly vulgar name of "noob". Am I a noob because I have fewer posts then you? Or because you've been reading news on this site since The People's Wrestling Website had it's first run. Back when The Rock was actually wrestling, thus the name of the website.

Now I'm only guessing your referring to the Wrestlemania thread. I mean if that thread was like, the highlight of your week and you have nothing else going on in your life other then making that thread then I'll let you have it. We can have Moderators delete the post, you can then post a new thread of the same topic and name. Then we can get all of the people that have already posted on the thread to post the same exact thing, in the same exact order. And you can have all the credit. Obviously you clearly need this more then me.

Mr. Nerfect
03-22-2010, 01:21 AM
It's just a trick to make a guy appear rougher, less concerned about their appearance and could even be used to sublimenally send hits that the heel's life is spiralling out of control and into the proverbial bottle. It's like they were such an asshole their hypothetical wife left them, so they are just like "whatever" and growing their hair out.

It's not an absolute rule, but it is a fair observation. Sometimes it actually annoys me when facial hair is cartoonishly used to symbolise the "evil" of a character (Chris Jericho's 2002 heel stint is a great example of that), but sometimes it fits. I actually think CM Punk would benefit by being clean-shaven, and presenting himself as this "clean" individual. A false idol, if you will.

Sixx
03-22-2010, 10:56 AM
LoL, did you just call me a noob and cry about somebody making a thread topic before you? I mean you're really angry about this. You went out of your way to tell me to shut the fuck up. Then you went as far as to call me the incredibly vulgar name of "noob". Am I a noob because I have fewer posts then you? Or because you've been reading news on this site since The People's Wrestling Website had it's first run. Back when The Rock was actually wrestling, thus the name of the website.

Now I'm only guessing your referring to the Wrestlemania thread. I mean if that thread was like, the highlight of your week and you have nothing else going on in your life other then making that thread then I'll let you have it. We can have Moderators delete the post, you can then post a new thread of the same topic and name. Then we can get all of the people that have already posted on the thread to post the same exact thing, in the same exact order. And you can have all the credit. Obviously you clearly need this more then me.

If anyone treats this shit too seriously, it's you.

The Jayman
03-22-2010, 11:02 AM
I have a beard so I must be a heel

Volare
03-22-2010, 11:03 AM
http://images.google.com/url?source=imgres&ct=img&q=http://www.bringbackglam.com/storage/zztop.jpg&usg=AFQjCNGbDGTGGyFulBXC94LtW6nL3_UqPQ

tjmidnight420
03-22-2010, 12:51 PM
I have a beard so I must be a heel

That was my initial response as well :y:

parkmania
03-22-2010, 04:25 PM
Something else I was thinking of while reading this thread: Doesn't the heel usually call the spots during the match? If so, facial hair would help obscure the "ring talk".

6-String King
03-22-2010, 04:44 PM
Something else I was thinking of while reading this thread: Doesn't the heel usually call the spots during the match? If so, facial hair would help obscure the "ring talk".

So if I grow a beard does this mean I can call the shots in life? I'm going to walk into my bosses office and demand I get a raise. If I don't, the moment she turns around I'm going to hit her across the back with an office chair(headshots are banned). That should get her attention.

6-String King
03-22-2010, 04:45 PM
If anyone treats this shit too seriously, it's you.
I don't know why anybody on here would take me seriously at all. I just get stoned and use this forum as my playground. I clearly have no idea what I'm talking about...ever

tjmidnight420
03-22-2010, 05:12 PM
I don't know why anybody on here would take me seriously at all. I just get stoned and use this forum as my playground. I clearly have no idea what I'm talking about...ever


So shut....... the hell...... up.




Ass hat.

Ermaximus
03-22-2010, 05:21 PM
http://www.deviantart.com/download/80966976/Demoman_Division_by_TheGr4yFox.jpg
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/8627/drbeardface.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v78/kgnally/l4d-officialgroup-bill-noscale.jpg
http://starcraft2wiki.net/sc2wiki/images/5/59/Jim_raynor.jpg
http://www.lostmaniacos.com/wp-content/uploads/sawyer.jpg

So because these guys have beards, they'd all be heels? I don't buy this shit 1 bit.

Triple Naitch
03-22-2010, 08:29 PM
I went out of my way to post "shut up", yet you spend 2 paragraphs making a response. I posted the link to my thread in here. If you took the time read, you would see it. Oh wait, I forgot you're stoned so you're so cool right now.

Xero
03-22-2010, 08:30 PM
lol Bill.

6-String King
03-23-2010, 01:38 PM
So shut....... the hell...... up.




Ass hat.


TJ......don't. That hurts.

6-String King
03-23-2010, 01:39 PM
I went out of my way to post "shut up", yet you spend 2 paragraphs making a response. I posted the link to my thread in here. If you took the time read, you would see it. Oh wait, I forgot you're stoned so you're so cool right now.

I don't see a link. But thanks, your cool too.

tjmidnight420
03-23-2010, 01:46 PM
TJ......don't. That hurts.



I'm done.... for now. But only cause Juan asked me to lay off...

And for the record, Naitch did post the link to his thread.

tjmidnight420
03-23-2010, 01:46 PM
Ass Hat would be SUCH a cool user name for ya though...

6-String King
03-23-2010, 01:56 PM
I'm done.... for now. But only cause Juan asked me to lay off...

And for the record, Naitch did post the link to his thread.

And I don't care, post the link to your facebook. Post the link to your favorite jerk off site. Post the link the a thread that says "fuck you stukkband, we think you a needle dick having cock smoker who would have been better off as a fuck stain on the bed sheets to that of in which you were conceived." Because why? I honestly just don't give a shit. And don't stop talking shit because Juan told you to come on...What are you a puppet?

Xero
03-23-2010, 02:02 PM
Juan, you should merge this thread with the other one.

tjmidnight420
03-23-2010, 02:07 PM
And I don't care, post the link to your facebook. Post the link to your favorite jerk off site. Post the link the a thread that says "fuck you stukkband, we think you a needle dick having cock smoker who would have been better off as a fuck stain on the bed sheets to that of in which you were conceived." Because why? I honestly just don't give a shit. And don't stop talking shit because Juan told you to come on...What are you a puppet?


Nah, Ass Hat, I just don't wanna get the ban hammer. Juan's a mod he has that power. Just know though: as soon as a mod says it's cool, I'm gonna make you cry again.

The Jayman
03-23-2010, 02:09 PM
And I don't care, post the link to your facebook. Post the link to your favorite jerk off site. Post the link the a thread that says "fuck you stukkband, we think you a needle dick having cock smoker who would have been better off as a fuck stain on the bed sheets to that of in which you were conceived." Because why? I honestly just don't give a shit. And don't stop talking shit because Juan told you to come on...What are you a puppet?

wow

6-String King
03-23-2010, 05:05 PM
Nah, Ass Hat, I just don't wanna get the ban hammer. Juan's a mod he has that power. Just know though: as soon as a mod says it's cool, I'm gonna make you cry again.

Again? This is a web forum. I take nothing on here seriously. But I agree, it would be crazy to wear an Ass as a Hat

tjmidnight420
03-23-2010, 05:11 PM
Again? This is a web forum. I take nothing on here seriously. But I agree, it would be crazy to wear an Ass as a Hat


I said nothing about wearing a hat. I'm not gonna explain myself to a 12 year old so yeah.... On another note: If you don't take this shit seriously, why do you go around here starting shit with everyone? How come every time you're on and I log on, you get off?

Go ahead. Wait until I log off here in a minute (gotta go get my kids) to talk your shit... Make it good bitch, because I want something to laugh about when I make your ass famous tonight when I get back on.

:foc:

6-String King
03-24-2010, 02:24 PM
On another note: If you don't take this shit seriously, why do you go around here starting shit with everyone? How come every time you're on and I log on, you get off?

:foc:

I hardly doubt I could intentionally do this each and everytime you log in even if I wanted to. How the hell would I know exactly when you log in? Do you think I'm constantly hitting refresh to see when your name pops up and then I log off? Don't flatter yourself. If what you claim is true, then it's simply coincidence. And I start shit either A: for my amusement. Or B: because that person is being a douche bag and deserves to be called out on it.

tjmidnight420
03-24-2010, 03:45 PM
I hardly doubt I could intentionally do this each and everytime you log in even if I wanted to. How the hell would I know exactly when you log in? Do you think I'm constantly hitting refresh to see when your name pops up and then I log off? Don't flatter yourself. If what you claim is true, then it's simply coincidence. And I start shit either A: for my amusement. Or B: because that person is being a douche bag and deserves to be called out on it.

Hey dude I done commended you on a decent post earlier before you replied to that... Lets agree to drop it and it's over... no more retarded posts at my expense and I don't care who you piss off, cool?

I'll probably still call you Ass Hat, but you thought it was funny yesterday so all in good fun.

NeanderCarl
03-24-2010, 07:57 PM
In Dynamite Kid's book, he recounts the time he grew a moustache in 1988 and Vince McMahon called him into his office and sheepishly told him to shave because "I like my babyfaces clean shaven".

Dynamite pointed out that his top babyface (Hogan) and babyface World champion (Savage) both had facial hair, and McMahon shut up.

Dynamite worked his final WWF match at Survivor Series 1988. He did so with a moustache.

6-String King
03-25-2010, 05:54 AM
Hey dude I done commended you on a decent post earlier before you replied to that... Lets agree to drop it and it's over... no more retarded posts at my expense and I don't care who you piss off, cool?

I'll probably still call you Ass Hat, but you thought it was funny yesterday so all in good fun.

Everything I do on here is all in fun. Like I said it amuses me. I could care less if you call me ass hat. Hell you can call me Lisa if you'd like I really don't give a damn. I still plan to piss people off. It makes for an interesting thread does it not? Besides...Love me or Hate me, most likely hate me. Everybody knows who stukkband is by now. Don't think that's an accident.

Juan
03-25-2010, 06:11 AM
Everything I do on here is all in fun. Like I said it amuses me. I could care less if you call me ass hat. Hell you can call me Lisa if you'd like I really don't give a damn. I still plan to piss people off. It makes for an interesting thread does it not? Besides...Love me or Hate me, most likely hate me. Everybody knows who stukkband is by now. Don't think that's an accident.

Get over yourself. Aside from maybe the wrestling forum, no one knows who you are.

I'm only one of several mods, but I personally don't tolerate blatant trolling. So if you're here to piss people off, I can assure you that you're stay here wont be a pleasant one.

Serious business.

6-String King
03-25-2010, 06:15 AM
....Juan, seriously, ok.

Juan
03-25-2010, 06:19 AM
If you're bored, read a book.

Ermaximus
03-25-2010, 09:26 AM
If you're bored, read a book.

R-E-A-D-A-BO OKAY!

The Jayman
03-25-2010, 09:31 AM
....Juan, seriously, ok.

seriously

Kane Knight
03-25-2010, 09:39 AM
It's actually an old Carny thing.

Face is short for "Babyface." This is because they were often clean shaven. And the Heels had facial hair, to prove their heel-dom.

This is all to the best of my knowledge, I could be wrong on some aspect.
The 'Kai has it.

6-String King
03-26-2010, 03:01 PM
seriously

See, this guy gets it.

The Jayman
03-26-2010, 03:05 PM
See, this guy gets it.

why thank you