Greatest wrestler to never hold a title in a major promotion

[Xero]

Who do you think is the greatest male wrestler never hold a title in a major promotion (who was in a major promotion)? This includes WCW, WWE, ECW, TNA, ROH and the NWA. Not one title, tag included.

The only exception I will make is the WWF Hardcore Championship. They can have held that as almost everyone below the main event held that in the WWF.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Jake the Snake Roberts

[Schlomey]

Jake the Snake Roberts

Seconded.

[Jakob Synn]

Jake the Snake Roberts

He was probably one of the top of my favorite wrestlers from that era, but then when I saw his addiction in Beyond The Mat I became very very sad, but that was that era and that's how some things went.

I mean how many people loved Motley Crue during the 80's but didn't know about their massive drug use backstage?

[Schlomey]

Did Rick Martel hold any titles? I'm thinking he did back in the AWA but no so sure. I'll rep your fucking brains out for some truth.

[Jakob Synn]

Did Rick Martel hold any titles? I'm thinking he did back in the AWA but no so sure. I'll rep your fucking brains out for some truth.

He won the TV title in WCW

[Schlomey]

Damnit.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Martel was underused as hell. I don't think he won the TV title btw he was supposed to forgot his gear or something, and then Booker won it. I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure that's how it went down.

[Kapoutman]

Pretty sure I remember seeing Martel with the title near the end of WCW.

[Schlomey]

If that is the case then I nominate Rick Martel for this.

[Jakob Synn]

If that is the case then I nominate Rick Martel for this.

Nominate him for what? He won a major title. He doesn't count.

My predicitions is that I don't see many other big names on this list.

[Schlomey]

Damn this is a tough thread.

[Jakob Synn]

Damn this is a tough thread.

I know! I can't really think of anyone other than Jake, though at first I thought he had an IC run back in the day, but I guess I was wrong.

[Schlomey]

Jimmy Snuka?

[kareru]

this is hard

how about vampiro, he was a decent enough wrestler and he had quite a push during wcw 2000

[Supreme Olajuwon]

The only person I can think of who didn't hold a title in WCW or WWF that's worth mentioning is Dusty Rhodes but he won titles in NWA so he doesn't count.

[Schlomey]

Read Chris Jericho's book. I'll acccept his opinion on vampiro as fact because its fucking Chris Jericho. In that case I would not nominate Vampiro for anything more than being a toolbag.

[Jakob Synn]

Jimmy Snuka?

He won some NWA titles.

What about Kanyon.

[Schlomey]

Again, now we are just naming random mid carders who we know were not even really title worthy.

Finding the true "gems" will be a daunting task.


So , no, Kanyon is not the greatest of anything.

[Xero]

Snuka was also the ECW Champion.

[Schlomey]

Snuka was also the ECW Champion.


knowitall...How about you come up with one then hotshot.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Kanyon won a ton of titles anyway

[Kapoutman]

Koko B. Ware?

[Schlomey]

Kanyon won a ton of titles anyway

Did he tag team with Orlando Jordan ?

[Jakob Synn]

Kanyon won a ton of titles anyway

Such as?

[Kapoutman]

King Kong Bundy!

[Kapoutman]

Such as?



World Championship Wrestling (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Championship_Wrestling)

WCW World Tag Team Championship (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WCW_World_Tag_Team_Championship) (2 times (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_WCW_World_Tag_Team_Champions)) – with both Diamond Dallas Page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diamond_Dallas_Page) and Bam Bam Bigelow (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bam_Bam_Bigelow) at the same time as the Jersey Triad (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jersey_Triad)<sup id="cite_ref-oww_0-50" class="reference">[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanyon#cite_note-oww-0)</sup>





World Wrestling Federation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Wrestling_Entertainment)

WCW United States Championship (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WWE_United_States_Championship) (1 time (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_WWE_United_States_Champions))<sup id="cite_ref-oww_0-51" class="reference">[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanyon#cite_note-oww-0)</sup>
WWF Tag Team Championship (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Tag_Team_Championship_%28WWE%29) (1 time (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_World_Tag_Team_Champions_%28WWE%29)) – with Diamond Dallas Page<sup id="cite_ref-oww_0-52" class="reference">[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanyon#cite_note-oww-0)</sup>

[kareru]

Such as?

tag team champion
us champion
and he won the hollywood heavyweight title lol

[Inadequacy]

http://www.ucwonline.ca/images/rosterpagepics/aaronawesomerosterpic.jpg

Obviously it's Aaron Awesome

[Schlomey]

This is a thread for learned posters. Take your hillbilly bullcrap elsewhere.

[Xero]

knowitall...How about you come up with one then hotshot.

STEVE BLACKMAN, of course.

[Xero]

Was going to say A-Train but forgot he was IC champion.

[Schlomey]

While he should not be considered in the "greatest" category I give you major props for him coming to your mind.

He is the closest thing WWE will ever see to chuck norris. <3

[kareru]

STEVE BLACKMAN, of course.

ooooh thats a good one

[Xero]

While he should not be considered in the "greatest" category I give you major props for him coming to your mind.

He is the closest thing WWE will ever see to chuck norris. <3

Well, TECHNICALLY.....

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[St. Jimmy]

is this counting just world titles?

[kareru]

thats reminds me

Jerry Flynn

[Xero]

is this counting just world titles?

All titles outside of the WWF Hardcore Championship.

[St. Jimmy]

lol why not the hardcore title? it's still a title.

[Xero]

Too saturated with useless wins.

I also thought about excluding tag titles. If you want to, go ahead. Definitely broadens things.

[VSG]

Too saturated with useless wins.

I also thought about excluding tag titles. If you want to, go ahead. Definitely broadens things.

Scotty too Hotty then!

[Inadequacy]

He held the lightweight title

[Kapoutman]

Ted Dibiase

[Supreme Olajuwon]

If not counting tag titles then yeah Dibiase no question.

[KIRA]

Damn this is hard, Charlie Haas (OBVIOUSLY excluding the Tag Belts)

[Favre4Ever]

Hassan never got any sort of belt did he? Though I'm not sure his character would be able to take part in a "greatest" category due to its briefness.

Ummmmmmm this is a tough question. I think "World" title would be much easier cause you could squeeze Mr.Perfect and Scott Hall in there.

Also when you think about it, Arn Anderson never really won a SERIOUS TITLE that wasn't a tag team strap.

[KIRA]

Hassan never got any sort of belt did he? Though I'm not sure his character would be able to take part in a "greatest" category due to its briefness.

Ummmmmmm this is a tough question. I think "World" title would be much easier cause you could squeeze Mr.Perfect and Scott Hall in there.

Also when you think about it, Arn Anderson never really won a SERIOUS TITLE that wasn't a tag team strap.

Yeah this would be easier narrowed down to World titles

I know Haas was only there for a short time I was going more on his ability as most on here agree that Haas was an extremely talented horribly misused wrestler but I suppose that statement could be attributed to a lot of WWE talent over the years.


Lanny Poffo comes to mind

[Xero]

We've done the "only world titles" deal. That's why I went this way.

With only world, we almost always get the same answer. DiBiase or Perfect.

[KIRA]

We've done the "only world titles" deal. That's why I went this way.

With only world, we almost always get the same answer. DiBiase or Perfect.

Oh ok didn't know that sorry

[VSG]

He held the lightweight title

True! Oh well anyone I can think of (Kamala, Tomko etc) are not worth the mention for contention here.

[CWK]

Did Rick Martel hold any titles? I'm thinking he did back in the AWA but no so sure. I'll rep your fucking brains out for some truth.

Rick Martel was the AWA World Heavyweight champion.

[Schlomey]

I thought so....Thanks to midnight showings on ESPN a few years back.

[Mooияakeя™]

If this was just major titles, I'd go for The Million Dollar Man, Ted DiBiase. I would of said Hennig, but I think he has a mini run with the AWA heavyweight strap.

But if it's anyone who hasn't ever had a belt really... ummm...

Brian Pillman?

[Schlomey]

Perfect was IC champion and that was a predominant championship in those days.

[Storer50]

Earthquake

[Schlomey]

Mabel/Viscera/BigDaddyV - Staying power.

[VSG]

Now that I think again, I liked Stevie Richards at one point (RTC was original, not necessarily good). He never held anything apart from the hardcore title.

[Jakob Synn]

If this was just major titles, I'd go for The Million Dollar Man, Ted DiBiase. I would of said Hennig, but I think he has a mini run with the AWA heavyweight strap.


Another thing you could add is just singles titles, because if it was just singles titles that wrestler hadn't won then you can add a lot of tag team partners that never got the same push as their partner.

Such as Jim "The Anvil" Neidhart, I.R.S and Bam Bam Bigelow. I wanted to add Marty Janetty, but I realized he won an IC title in 1993

[XCaliber]

Curt Hennig, William Regal, Gregory Helms, D'Lo Brown, & Rene Dupree those are a just a few guys that come to mind right off the top of my head.

[Jeritron]

Aside from the fact that they've all held multiple titles

[Jakob Synn]

Curt Hennig, William Regal, Gregory Helms, D'Lo Brown, & Rene Dupree those are a just a few guys that come to mind right off the top of my head.

I think you should read the first post

[seapig4]

Did Dynamite Kid win any singles gold?

[XCaliber]

I think you should read the first post

My bad well that really limts the pool as nowadays everyone has had a title of some sort at some point or another especially after the Attitude Era leading up to the Invasion ugh was Marty Janetty ever IC Champ?

[Testicle]

FYI, Martel was AWA world champ.

[redoneja]

Bad News Brown

[XIII]

bam bam bigelow, never held any wwf/e titles thats some b.s.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I didn't think we were counting AWA to be honest. I knew he was the AWA champ. He was their top gun for a while wasn't he?

[Tazz Dan]

Did Rick Martel hold any titles? I'm thinking he did back in the AWA but no so sure. I'll rep your fucking brains out for some truth.

http://www.pwpix.net/superstars/r/ronkillings/images/r-truth-2.jpg



:shifty:

[Tazz Dan]

Also, I'm fairly certain Rick Martel held the IC belt at one stage. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

[sa]

scotty 2 hotty and sabu

[kareru]

Also, I'm fairly certain Rick Martel held the IC belt at one stage. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

and the wcw t.v title

[jamesyboybell]

has anyone mentioned Virgil?

[jamesyboybell]

Mabel/Viscera/BigDaddyV - Staying power.

for the same reason Brooklyn Brawler

[Dante69]

Kevin "the benoit snuffer" Sullivan

[Theo Dious]

Well, TECHNICALLY.....

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Jarrett totally undersold Norris's kick.

[Theo Dious]

Also, you people keep making me use this picture:

http://www.classicwwf.com/uploaded_images/genius4-799174.jpg

[Theo Dious]

Also, quit asking dumbass questions as to whether a guy with a well-established WWF/E or WCW run was such-and-such a champion when WWE.com has an extensive title history section.

[Rollermacka]

Damn this is a tough thread.

Not really, I'm suprised nobody mentioned El Dandy. Who are you to doubt El Dandy? Seriously though, he was an under used wrestler. Andbody remember when he teamed with Silver King and Ms. Hancock? That was an EPIC team.

[kareru]

Not really, I'm suprised nobody mentioned El Dandy. Who are you to doubt El Dandy? Seriously though, he was an under used wrestler. Andbody remember when he teamed with Silver King and Ms. Hancock? That was an EPIC team.

fuck yeah los fabulosos

http://www.gerweck.net/misshancock.jpg

any old excuse to post the hancock

[Stealth-Icon]

I don't remember Billy Jack Hanyes holding a major title, could be wrong though.

[south776]

George The Animal Steele

[south776]

Hillbilly Jim

[KIRA]

http://www.pwpix.net/superstars/r/ronkillings/images/r-truth-2.jpg



:shifty:

Killings held NWA-TNA World title more than once I think

[jamesyboybell]

I know he's had loads of minor titles but what about Jerry Lawler?

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

has anyone mentioned Virgil?

the million dollar belt and he didnt even deserve that.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Earthquake

tag team champion with typhoon.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Mabel/Viscera/BigDaddyV - Staying power.

hardcore and tag team titles.

[Rammsteinmad]

ooTin.

Oh wait, he was ECW Champion.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

As Justin Sane?

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

thats reminds me

Jerry Flynn

Championships and accomplishments

World Wrestling Council (Carlos Colon's Puerto Rico fed)

WWC Universal Heavyweight Championship(1 time)
1-Time SWA Heavyweight Champion
1-Time IWF Heavyweight Champion
PWI ranked him #242 of the 500 best singles wrestlers of the year in the PWI 500 in 1999
[edit]

[MaxPower]

Junkyard Dog
Hakushi
......and ummmmm El Dandy

[Rammsteinmad]

Tank Abbott.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Pretty sure I remember seeing Martel with the title near the end of WCW.

I know for a fact that Martel had the title. I was a big mark for him at the time, for some reason.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Mabel/Viscera/BigDaddyV - Staying power.

I feel like Men on a Mission had a tag title run.

[Volare]

William Regal.

[MoFo]

William Regal.



European
Intercontinental
Tag Team (w/ Eugene)

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

European
Intercontinental
Tag Team (w/ Eugene)

WCW Television Championship four times.

[Volare]

Sorry, I just smoked and thought it was "never win a world title."

My bad!!

[seapig4]

Nova. I always used to enjoy his work

[Brigstocke]

Trent Baretta.

[Lara Emily]

Jake the Snake Roberts

Does his "reign" as Million Dollar Champion count? He techncaaly did defend it against Dibiase. Does WCCW count he was TV champ there

[Lara Emily]

bam bam bigelow, never held any wwf/e titles thats some b.s.

ECW Champion and ECW Tv champion

[Vastardikai]

I know for a fact that Martel had the title. I was a big mark for him at the time, for some reason.

Rick was also 1/2 of the WWF Tag Team Champions as a member of Strike Force.

http://www.ioffer.com/img/item/175/673/657/TdAgAd4rFiQUhEj.jpg

Also, this eliminates Tito Santana...

[FourFifty]

This is hard- If they were worth a while and remembered then they would have been given SOME title somewhere.

Gorgeous George comes to mind. This Hall of Famer never did hit the major titles. Two small NWA titles, The AWA World Title (Boston Version- whatever that is). He also revolutionized the industry.

[Seth82]

Jake Roberts held the WCCW TV Title and it was a MAJOR promotion in the 80's

He also held the WCCW Six Man Title with Gino Hernandez and Chris Adams

[Sixx]

He was probably one of the top of my favorite wrestlers from that era, but then when I saw his addiction in Beyond The Mat I became very very sad, but that was that era and that's how some things went.

I mean how many people loved Motley Crue during the 80's but didn't know about their massive drug use backstage?

Sup. Pretty sure everyone knew about their addictions. I mean, come the fuck on, Vince would walk offstage while shitfaced to bum cigarettes from the audience, during the show.

[GD]

Doink the Clown.

[Droford]

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[Droford]

Im digging at the bottom of the barrel here but:

Scott Norton won stuff over in Japan but never in WCW.

Terry Taylor won a bunch of titles in regional promotions but never in WCW/WWF

Also, I dont think Kevin Sullivan ever won anything but tag belts between ECW and WCW.

[Seth82]

Also, I dont think Kevin Sullivan ever won anything but tag belts between ECW and WCW.

Sullivan won several titles in Georgia Championship Wrestling which was a major promotion in the 70's and 80's and earlier before that

He also won several belts in Championship Wrestling from Florida which it too was a major promotion in the 60's til its death in 1987

[Seth82]

Terry Taylor won the WCW Six Man Tag belts with Ricky Morton and Tommy Rich

He also won the WCW US Tag Titles with Greg Valentine

[Gertner]

lol since when is ROH a major promotion?

[Volare]

Oh shit. :lol:

[Sycophant]

Bill DeMott/ Hugh Morris...but don't quite know if
I would say he was "great."

[Droford]

Bill DeMott/ Hugh Morris...but don't quite know if
I would say he was "great."

WCW US Champion

[Sycophant]

Ah, fail on my part

[Seth82]

Junkyard Dog

He held the tag title belts a buncha times in Bill Watts' Mid South Wrestling

as well as the Louisiana Heavyweight title

Mid-South was a major promotion in the 80's

[DLVH84]

In my eyes and memory, I consider WWE, TNA, NWA, WCW, ECW, WCCW, ROH and AWA as the major American promotions. The rest are secondary.

[CSL]

lol

[Dante69]

Giant Gonzalez

[road doggy dogg]

Steve Blackman. No contest.
crossrine

[Loose Cannon]

lol since when is ROH a major promotion?

lol

another one of these "poster names a wrestler and another poster proves you wrong" thread

[Savio]

We've done the "only world titles" deal. That's why I went this way.

Don't get too cocky Star Fox!

http://www.tpww.net/forums/showthread.php?t=48201

[Xero]

I wouldn't make that mistake today, so I'm correct.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Steve Blackman. No contest.
crossrine

Blackman's hardcore title reign should count for this because he won the title before it was a joke. Plus he jumped off the fucking tron to win it.

[road doggy dogg]

Yeah well your dick shouldn't count because it's so tiny. Blackman via DQ.
crossrine

[dingdongyo]

Hakushi
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greatest theme ever. could have been huge.

[Rollermacka]

What about Curtis Hughes? He was around through out the late 80s through the early 2000s and never won anything major

[Aguakate]

Fellow Puerto Rican, an Icon on the Island, and international star: Savio Vega

[The Heenan Family]

beefcake, brutus....

[Xero]

beefcake, brutus....

Team, Tag

[thedamndest]

Kamala