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Boomer
02-20-2011, 05:34 PM
Just haven't had the time to touch it at all. And I got really depressed this morning watching the #5 worldwide ranked guy be cheap as fuck with Sentinel and Doom assist on J.TV. Was facing scrubs most anyway; certainly wasn't skilled at all. Wouldn't get far at EVO with that shit, but otherwise he'd probably do just fine.

Kalyx triaD
02-20-2011, 07:57 PM
I've just realized that imk going to have to learn to chase people down with her.

Use her 'above the head' teleport and then her down+(H) dive attack. It bounces and you can have your way from there. Her floor trap OTGs so that's a good follow up to her regular air combo. And you probably already know about her kick-ass low slide.

Just haven't had the time to touch it at all. And I got really depressed this morning watching the #5 worldwide ranked guy be cheap as fuck with Sentinel and Doom assist on J.TV. Was facing scrubs most anyway; certainly wasn't skilled at all. Wouldn't get far at EVO with that shit, but otherwise he'd probably do just fine.

This game offers more ways to deal with spamming than most fighting games, but they're still annoying and tough to deal with. There will always be those kind of guys.

Blitz
02-21-2011, 01:30 AM
Played some guy the other night who was using Tasky, Iron Man, and I think either Ryu or Akuma. Nothing but projectiles from all 3. I really find it harder to deal with in this game than any fighter previous, especially with characters like Taskmaster, who have 3 different angles of them.

Honestly, more I play this online, the more I dislike it.

Kalyx triaD
02-21-2011, 01:39 AM
I find your lack of imagination disturbing.

Blitz
02-21-2011, 01:56 AM
It will change as I get better, I'm sure. It's a different fighter than I'm used to. I never really logged any serious time with MVC2, and seemingly everyone online is an old hand at it. I'm used to slower paced fighter.

I will say, that it feels like I'm encountering a lot cheaper tactics with this game than say, Street Fighter. Sent is cheap as fuck. Dante feels like it too, although not as bad. And I really hate the assist system. You can say the game rewards creativity, but it also rewards memorizing long button strings and just using those. And I've never been good at that.

Kalyx triaD
02-21-2011, 02:05 AM
It seems you need to get used to the assist system for extra defense and giving you openings. Who are you playing with now?

Blitz
02-21-2011, 02:44 AM
'pool, Felicia, and Chun Li. Spencer, She-Hulk, and Cap are my B team at the moment, haven't used them much yet.

I understand I need to properly use assists. I just resent the whole system. I think it adds an unnecessary layer of complication.

Kalyx triaD
02-21-2011, 03:19 AM
Trust me, if it's something you just don't vibe with it's better to let it go then force yourself to get used to something you don't like. One day (the last day) I played Black Ops I just felt like I was clowning myself playing a game I always left with more complaints than having a good time. Never believe you have to play something because it's the 'hot thing'. I did that with Modern Warfare 2 to prove a few points but I just didn't have the patience for Black Ops.

Having said that, and expecting you to stay on MvC3 for the time being, here's what I know about your main team:

- If that's the order you pick them (the order indeed matters), I think Chun's good as the third teammate. He Lightning Legs assist is seriously too good and can trap opponents for a while. If she's the last survivor and has X-Factor she's pretty much scary fast. Her Lighting Legs hyper is also good since it leads to more combos (it launches). However, and this is something I still deal with, you're gonna have to space out your combo input if you don't wanna activate Lightning Legs every second!

- Deadpool has some good options to play keepaway. His grenades are good for keeping people busy and his gun super punishes bad assists well. Even if you just random it, you'd be surprised - you have little to lose and it does decent chip damage. Up close he as that flip kick normal that breaks low guard (overheads are very nice). His katana-rama is something I rarely see people do, but they should use it! The Chimichanga follow-up is very good for extending combos you probably didn't deserve! He also has a sliding low, I can't say enough why that's the best thing ever.

- Felicia can cross-up with (L)+(S) and forward. If you use an assist to scare people into blocking you could cross them up real nasty. She has a command grab with good range, AND it gives you follow-up chance. Her 3+(M) hits OTG, you just go and experiment with that.

#BROKEN Hasney
02-21-2011, 04:03 AM
I'm with Blitz. I much prefer the more methodical style of SF4 and a lot of this game just feels like fan service, which was great for 16 year old me when 2 came out but I just feel without recognisable characters, this game would pretty much fall on it's face on it's own merits.

Blitz
02-21-2011, 04:29 AM
Trust me, if it's something you just don't vibe with it's better to let it go then force yourself to get used to something you don't like. One day (the last day) I played Black Ops I just felt like I was clowning myself playing a game I always left with more complaints than having a good time. Never believe you have to play something because it's the 'hot thing'. I did that with Modern Warfare 2 to prove a few points but I just didn't have the patience for Black Ops.

Having said that, and expecting you to stay on MvC3 for the time being, here's what I know about your main team:

- If that's the order you pick them (the order indeed matters), I think Chun's good as the third teammate. He Lightning Legs assist is seriously too good and can trap opponents for a while. If she's the last survivor and has X-Factor she's pretty much scary fast. Her Lighting Legs hyper is also good since it leads to more combos (it launches). However, and this is something I still deal with, you're gonna have to space out your combo input if you don't wanna activate Lightning Legs every second!

- Deadpool has some good options to play keepaway. His grenades are good for keeping people busy and his gun super punishes bad assists well. Even if you just random it, you'd be surprised - you have little to lose and it does decent chip damage. Up close he as that flip kick normal that breaks low guard (overheads are very nice). His katana-rama is something I rarely see people do, but they should use it! The Chimichanga follow-up is very good for extending combos you probably didn't deserve! He also has a sliding low, I can't say enough why that's the best thing ever.

- Felicia can cross-up with (L)+(S) and forward. If you use an assist to scare people into blocking you could cross them up real nasty. She has a command grab with good range, AND it gives you follow-up chance. Her 3+(M) hits OTG, you just go and experiment with that.
I'm pretty much using Chun exactly as you suggest. She's my anchor, and I've taken down 2 characters with just her left thanks to X Factor. Lightning Legs can be a pain in terms of interrupting combos, but in the air I'm getting more consistent with hitting lightning legs, then Tenshokyaku, then another lighting legs.

I tend to play keep away with 'pool. Pineapples and bolos cross the screen, Quick Work if I wanna get in close. Still trying to figure the hit box on Katanarama. It never seems to hit for me. And I dearly, dearly wish his "kunai" moves had different inputs from Trigger Happy.

Felicia has great rush down, and a couple of her specials are godly for getting past projectile spam. But I'm still working on her. For whatever reason, I keep getting fucked up inputs where I trigger her U2 (where the stupid helper cat comes out) instead of her U1 slash frenzy.

I just started working with She Hulk (who I picked up for her dizzy grab) and Cap (on the merits of Charging Star beating a bunch of shit out), but I might get rid of Spencer. I like his capabilities, but I just don't seem to be meshing with him right now.

Kalyx triaD
02-21-2011, 04:35 AM
Felicia's helper super is her best one! Crazy lockdown especially with Chun's Lightning Legs assist.

She-Hulk has the indisputably best low slide in the game. Wacky range and I think it can cancel to both her special dash and special wall dive for free. Her standing clothesline definitely leads to those special movements and I almost added her to my roster for that shit. Her normal strikes also hurt like hell. She moves like El Fuerte and hits (almost) like Hulk.

RoXer
02-21-2011, 11:31 AM
Beat a crossover combo with a hyper charging star. Was awesome

Super V
02-21-2011, 04:37 PM
lol I know as soon as some time passed ppl'd start feelin the same way I do. It's cool seein all the characters/quotes/endings/hypers/etc, together but the fighting system is just uber-tedious after a while.

Fignuts
02-21-2011, 05:28 PM
Yeah, think I might stick to ssf4.

Khuntry
02-21-2011, 08:41 PM
lol I know as soon as some time passed ppl'd start feelin the same way I do. It's cool seein all the characters/quotes/endings/hypers/etc, together but the fighting system is just uber-tedious after a while.

Tedious like one frame links, safe block strings, and guarding against cross-ups off of wake up? Ugh Come on dude..

Khuntry
02-21-2011, 08:45 PM
Felicia's 3+(m) is jump cancelable.
She-Hulk can go into catapult or chariot
Off her 6+(H) overhead. Crazy

Blitz
02-21-2011, 10:51 PM
Tedious like one frame links, safe block strings, and guarding against cross-ups off of wake up? Ugh Come on dude..
To be fair, I can't do any of that, and I can hold my own in Street Fighter just fine.

I don't doubt that MVC3 will become the high level fighter of choice, though.

Kalyx triaD
02-21-2011, 11:16 PM
Keep fighting the good fight, Super V.

Kalyx triaD
02-22-2011, 12:26 AM
Phoenix is officially on the team. She's a beast.

Got my ass beat by a Taskmaster user. Made me cower in the corner - I couldn't touch the guy. Fuckin crazy.

Ermaximus
02-22-2011, 10:14 AM
Kalyx, I think my C.Viper is ready. She's the only character I've cleared ten missions with.

Boomer
02-22-2011, 10:22 AM
I'm going to get around to playing it eventually, I swear. I'm really killing to beat the games I'm working on, and I'm going slow as hell.

Still have no idea who to start with. No charge characters :(

Crimson
02-22-2011, 02:06 PM
I've played online twice and gotten my ass beat . Too easy in fact, I couldn't take out even one of their fighters. Right now im just passing arcade mode on easy to unlock the character backrounds n such. After that maybe just have it around for when friends come over or something

Crimson
02-22-2011, 02:07 PM
Hope they can add new fighters over time too to keep my interest

Fignuts
02-22-2011, 02:33 PM
That will probably be what I do as well. I am invested enough in sf4, where I don't feel like getting serious about another fighter. Will probably only face funky and chizniz online, as I think they have similar feelings on it. The rest of you are likely way out of my league.

RoXer
02-22-2011, 02:37 PM
Nah I'm aweful

Blitz
02-22-2011, 03:00 PM
Nah I'm aweful
Same.

Reavant
02-22-2011, 03:10 PM
ok i got my ass handed to me 5 times in a row by galactus on very easy :(

Fignuts
02-22-2011, 03:17 PM
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Ermaximus
02-22-2011, 03:21 PM
That will probably be what I do as well. I am invested enough in sf4, where I don't feel like getting serious about another fighter. Will probably only face funky and chizniz online, as I think they have similar feelings on it. The rest of you are likely way out of my league.

I'm not, ask Kalyx.

Kalyx triaD
02-22-2011, 03:22 PM
Still have no idea who to start with. No charge characters :(

When you say charge characters you mean characters with good normals and high priority specials, right? That's usually the mark of a charge character, and MvC3 has a few of them (except without the charge mechanic, which is good).

Interestingly, Hulk and Felicia both have one charge move. They're 'waves' that are more similar to SNK's projectile philosophy than Capcom (you may or may not have heard the term 'spark' to describe SNK's Iori and Kyo projectiles). Dante also has a wave called Drive that also travels along the ground. Waves tend to be easy jump, but Hulk and Felicia's wave projectiles are damn good.

Figgy, I'm confidant you can grasp this game. It's your option, though, and I won't worry myself over what other people wanna buy/play.

Khuntry
02-22-2011, 03:32 PM
Everyone buy Hard Corps:Uprising now.

Kalyx triaD
02-22-2011, 03:54 PM
Ya know what: Everybody who mentioned the game says to outright buy it.

Still didn't play the damn demo cause it doesn't wanna download. I want my Contra-Guilty Gear!

Funky Fly
02-22-2011, 04:11 PM
Everyone buy Hard Corps:Uprising now.

I bought it days ago. What now, mufugga? :mad:

Actually, I will not be hopping on mvc3 online for a bit. Played my brother and got my ass handed pretty badly until I had to but out my last resort team. Then we just kinda fucked around getting a bunch of online achievements. BTW, is the Weapon X one fucked for anyone else? That and I still haven't sat down with this alone yet.

Kalyx triaD
02-22-2011, 04:19 PM
What's with the whole 'I won't play online until I get used to it' line I get from people. It's matches against friends not Ranked.

Dunno, going online is like the first thing I do with any game. Private or Player matches at least.

Fignuts
02-22-2011, 05:13 PM
http://www.inconsequentialexistence.com/stuff/mvc3.jpg

Kalyx triaD
02-22-2011, 05:21 PM
Ironically enough, all three were nerfed and no longer function as a unit the way they did in MvC2. You'll need a new can of worms, and you no longer have the comfort of raping 95% of the cast. Felicia can fuck up any of those three now; that idea was laughable in MvC2.

But seriously it's not gonna be 10 years before the next Vs game (Marvel style). Probably gonna be against a new company as well.

Fignuts
02-22-2011, 05:26 PM
From what I've heard, Sentinel is still pretty fucked up.

Funky Fly
02-22-2011, 05:37 PM
What's with the whole 'I won't play online until I get used to it' line I get from people. It's matches against friends not Ranked.

Dunno, going online is like the first thing I do with any game. Private or Player matches at least.

I have to have a feel for the characters I am playing. I was playing my brother, who I am slightly better than at most fighting games. He raped me up and down for 5 straight matches because I didn't have my timing down, combos right and worst of all know the entire movesets of the people I played. That's why. I'm very particular about fighters that way.

BigDaddyCool
02-22-2011, 05:37 PM
What, were those 3 just unstoppable and a noob tactic?

Blitz
02-22-2011, 06:11 PM
From what I've heard, Sentinel is still pretty fucked up.
Sent is cheap. I haven't played enough MVC2 to comment on him there, but in this game, he's pretty cheap. Insane damage, highest health in the game. Sent drones from across the screen, insane range and I think armor on his launcher if you do get in. That's not even getting into combo potential. Cheap.

I went over to SRK last night to read some threads. What I found interesting is that when they're discussing high level play with Street Fighter, people will talk about option select, crazy links, FADC ultras, etc.. With MVC3, it seems like all the high level play talk boils down to spamming until there's an opening, then hitting a combo for anywhere from 50-100% of a characters life. Yes, you have 3 characters so really it's only a third of your whole health, but come on. One character gets knocked out, and by that time your opponent has built some meter up. So my second character comes in, and if my opponent decides to use a beam super, I either eat it for about 30% damage, or block and get chipped for 15%. I go on, and miss or fuck up a single input, and get comboed again, maybe a triple crossover air combo this time that puts me completely out. Then my third character comes in, and I activate X Factor, but so does my opponent, and uses some more accumulated meter and I'm done.

I'm not gonna pretend that this is every match, but it illustrates how minuscule the margin of error is in this game. If I fuck up in Street Fighter against a good player, I might get comboed and lose 30% of my life. If I fuck up against a tournament level player, I might lose 60% or so. But in this game, against just a decent player, if I miss an input, I've lost probably 50% of my life. If I miss an input against a more than decent player, I've lost a character.

Kalyx triaD
02-22-2011, 06:13 PM
From what I've heard, Sentinel is still pretty fucked up.

Pfft. His candy-ass. His hitbox is huge and he's slow as shit. His air combo > OTG Rocket Punch > hyper is VERY damaging. And his armored low attack and launcher is kinda scary... But conceptually, damage wise, he's no different than Hulk. And nobody's talking about Hulk. Hulk can ice your ass faster than Sent!

I have to have a feel for the characters I am playing. I was playing my brother, who I am slightly better than at most fighting games. He raped me up and down for 5 straight matches because I didn't have my timing down, combos right and worst of all know the entire movesets of the people I played. That's why. I'm very particular about fighters that way.

Ah.

What, were those 3 just unstoppable and a noob tactic?

I would say 'noob tactic' but they hilariously unfair in MvC2. People loved it. Now everybody's unfair and people are bitching at various sites. Balanced by broken, and it really works for now.

Kalyx triaD
02-22-2011, 06:16 PM
Blitz, everything you said are things you can do to the opposition.

Boomer
02-22-2011, 06:29 PM
GunMetalTV on J.TV is unwatchable. Dude is top 5 in the world, and just spams to win. It is sickening to me. Just spends all day playing scrubs, talking about how awesome he is.

Blitz
02-22-2011, 06:29 PM
What it boils down is that I don't think it's a good design decision to be able to take 70% of a character's life, and build decent meter while you're at it, off a single light attack. Doesn't matter if I can do it too.

It's not an awful game. I'm making (slow) progress. I just think it could be more fun and beginner-friendly.

Blitz
02-22-2011, 06:47 PM
GunMetalTV on J.TV is unwatchable. Dude is top 5 in the world, and just spams to win. It is sickening to me. Just spends all day playing scrubs, talking about how awesome he is.
Just watched a couple of his matches. Wow. Appalling.

Kalyx triaD
02-22-2011, 07:34 PM
What it boils down is that I don't think it's a good design decision to be able to take 70% of a character's life, and build decent meter while you're at it, off a single light attack. Doesn't matter if I can do it too.

You almost certainly have spend meter to cut 70% off. Character killer meter-less combos are so situational you'll hardly ever see it in an actual match. You also gain meter for taking damage, not to mention better XF for losing a character.

I do agree in some way how a massive combo or attack starting from one unseen crouching light attack (or any mistake) can be frustrating. In fact I'm lock step with how you feel in general, sense I spout similar rants on CoD's game design. I get you, I'm just on the other side of aisle this time.

I will play tonight maybe.

Fignuts
02-22-2011, 10:01 PM
Damn, just had about 10 matches with kalyx. Won the last one which made me feel pretty good.

He literally messaged me like like 10 minutes after I popped it in for the first time, but I don't think I did too horrible. Every match except the first came down to our last guys.

Kalyx's dante is sick but I figured it would be since he was announced in the game.

So far I'm liking Chun-Li, X-23, Super Skrull, and Cap.

Fignuts
02-22-2011, 11:41 PM
Really feeling Super Skrull right now.

I like x-23, but I'm still trying to adjust to the speed of the game as a whole, and she's one of the fastest characters here, so she'll probably go to the wayside for a bit.

Fignuts
02-23-2011, 12:20 AM
What it boils down is that I don't think it's a good design decision to be able to take 70% of a character's life, and build decent meter while you're at it, off a single light attack. Doesn't matter if I can do it too.

It's not an awful game. I'm making (slow) progress. I just think it could be more fun and beginner-friendly.

There are combos into ultras in street fighter 4 that take over half a life bar.

There really isn't much difference, only that your lifebar is divided among three characters.

Just because the hit count is bigger, doesn't mean you are doing more damage. It is just the vs series style to exaggerate things.

My SSF4 Chun Li's Jumping double Fierce Punch > Crouching Fierce > Spinning Bird Kick > Super Combo does wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy more damage than any combo you can do in MvC.

You are looking at the lifebars as seperate entities. If you think of all three life bars as a whole, then you can never do more than a third of damage on any combo. Unless your assist gets caught along with you, which is your own fault, really.

Point is, I think people look at the hit counter and how much life gets taken off a single lifebar. That is not how it's meant to be played. The whole point is to look at the bigger picture and truly play it as a team game, and not just play each individual character, if that makes sense. That is why reviewers are clamoring about the amount of depth. It makes you consider advantages and disadvantages of using this character with that one, and forces you to be creative in how you use characters together.

I was leaning on your side of the fence while watching videos, but after spending some time against kalyx and in training I'm starting to see through illusion of simplicity this game has when you first boot it up.

To be fair, it is easy to miss all that depth at first. It does seem like a combo-a-thon, due to the speed and large hit counter, but like I said, once I took a step back and looked at the big picture things started to come together for me a bit more, and I was really enjoying choosing characters and seeing how they play off eachother.

Give it some time man.

Kalyx triaD
02-23-2011, 12:44 AM
Yes me Figgy had some matches, but he's brand new in the game. Certain assist set-ups I held back at first for fear of 'putting him off' the game. It wasn't till the later matches I gave him the usual Dante and Trish. I think he'll do fine based on tonight.

Also he has a good attitude about it. No complaints when I hit him with back to back hypers or Dante's relaunch combo, he was more bewildered than anything. Loved his reaction to Viper's Focus Attack. Like "wtf!"

dronepool
02-23-2011, 01:21 AM
ok i got my ass handed to me 5 times in a row by galactus on very easy :(

Seriously? Just spam him! I beat him on Normal, Easy and Very Easy.

alvarado52
02-23-2011, 01:38 AM
Good battles with Figgy and Roxer. I still need to work on my d.

Fignuts
02-23-2011, 02:28 AM
One thing I forgot about is you can knock their other characters back in. That would have been real useful when playing alvy.

Kalyx triaD
02-23-2011, 03:11 AM
Round 1 DLC Poll Results (Officially sanctioned by Capcom):

Marvel

1. Venom - 2034
2. Gambit - 1704 ;)
3. Cyclops- 1110
4. Ghost Rider - 1095
5. Carnage - 992
6. Psylocke - 967
7. Ms Marvel 792
8. Dr Strange 758
9. Night Crawler - 757
10. Green Goblin - 748
11. Iron Fist - 553
12. Juggernaut - 538
13. Daredevil - 500
14. Cable - 497
15. Rogue - 496

Capcom

1. Strider 2094
2. Mega Man X - 2061
3. Phoenix Wright - 1734
4. Frank West - 1311
5. Gene - 1257
6. Classic Megaman - 950
7. Vergil - 919
8. Captain Commando - 784
9. Bison - 704
10. Jin Saotome - 677
11. Jon Talbain - 617
12. Bass.Exe - 606
13. Ken - 469
14. Leon Kennedy - 419
15. Cammy - 416 :(

I don't know how many rounds there will be, but I have a feeling it'll continue until a final four survives. I wouldn't expect the winners to be developed until next year as a part of Capcom's third wave of next-gen fighters.

alvarado52
02-23-2011, 03:15 AM
Strider!

Funky Fly
02-23-2011, 04:13 AM
Fuckin' would kill for some Talbain action.

Ermaximus
02-23-2011, 09:59 AM
Fuck that lack of love for Cammy.

Khuntry
02-23-2011, 10:24 AM
Round 1 DLC Poll Results (Officially sanctioned by Capcom):

Marvel

1. Venom - 2034
2. Gambit - 1704 ;)
3. Cyclops- 1110
4. Ghost Rider - 1095
5. Carnage - 992
6. Psylocke - 967
7. Ms Marvel 792
8. Dr Strange 758
9. Night Crawler - 757
10. Green Goblin - 748
11. Iron Fist - 553
12. Juggernaut - 538
13. Daredevil - 500
14. Cable - 497
15. Rogue - 496

Capcom

1. Strider 2094
2. Mega Man X - 2061:yes:
3. Phoenix Wright - 1734
4. Frank West - 1311
5. Gene - 1257
6. Classic Megaman - 950
7. Vergil - 919
8. Captain Commando - 784
9. Bison - 704
10. Jin Saotome - 677
11. Jon Talbain - 617
12. Bass.Exe - 606
13. Ken - 469
14. Leon Kennedy - 419
15. Cammy - 416 :roll:

Kalyx triaD
02-23-2011, 03:03 PM
I got Cammy-ish characters anyway, with X23 and Jill coming up.

Can't believe Bison is number nine. LOL at Cable being so low. No more hyper viper beam bullshit. Ever.

Fignuts
02-23-2011, 03:39 PM
Nightcrawler
Iron Fist
Talbain
Megaman

That would be my list. Keeping in mind that I think Megaman could have been much better given the amount of robot master powers out there. They only use leaf shield? Really? And the soccer ball kick was in because I think MM 8 was the most recent release, and no one gives a shit about that in 2011, so we can lose that move.

Kalyx triaD
02-23-2011, 03:52 PM
He should gain the moves of people he KOs, assuming Mega Man classic will win. X seems to have his own suit of abilities regardless of who he beats. I'm no expert, though.

Funky Fly
02-23-2011, 03:53 PM
I could see Nightcrawler, Megaman X and Talbain, but Iron Fist would be a bit trickier to add without being too similar to other guys in already.

Kalyx triaD
02-23-2011, 03:56 PM
Nightcrawler would presumably play like Wesker. At best they could combine Wesker's proximity teleport with other character's tracking teleport. Also give him an 8-way teleport dash.

Funky Fly
02-23-2011, 04:00 PM
Teleport throws. You ever play Next Dimension?

Blitz
02-23-2011, 04:14 PM
Would dig on seeing Gambit and Strider.

Kalyx triaD
02-23-2011, 04:21 PM
No, but a teleport throw would be too strong even in a game designed to be absurd.

Majunior
02-23-2011, 04:25 PM
So, I know I haven't really said much in the thread, but a few of my thoughts...

Yeah, Sentinel is spam friendly.
Super Skrull is pretty much equally spamable. (Tenderizer mix ups play hell with the CPU.)
Deadpool is fun, but not super impressive.
I really like Taskmaster.
Felicia is a beast.

Kalyx triaD
02-23-2011, 04:43 PM
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Ermaximus
02-23-2011, 05:02 PM
Yea, Felicia is about to become a mainstay on my squad. Chick is beast.

Cap
C. Viper
X-23
Felicia
Viewtiful Joe

Fignuts
02-23-2011, 06:16 PM
Yeah was messing around with chun-li today and knocking out the computer before she even had a quarter of her life taken away. She really is beastly.

Kalyx triaD
02-23-2011, 06:20 PM
Her standing and crouching (H) attacks are jump cancelable, which is fucking wicked.

Kalyx triaD
02-23-2011, 08:12 PM
More XFC used as an 'Alpha Counter':

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dronepool
02-23-2011, 08:43 PM
Does anybody know why the hell are Capcom characters way over powered in the power chart of the strategy guide? They make it seem like everyone in Capcom is Thor like or something.

Kalyx triaD
02-23-2011, 08:49 PM
Pay those baseball card charts no mind.

dronepool
02-23-2011, 08:59 PM
Spider-Man

Intelligence- 4
Strength- 4
Speed- 3
Stamina- 3
Energy Projectiion- 1
Fighting Ablity- 4

Wolverine

2
4
2
4
1
7


Ryu

4
6
5
6
7
7

Really? Spider-Man has about a 10 ton cap, so Ryu is stronger?

:-\

Kalyx triaD
02-23-2011, 09:03 PM
Refer to reply above yours.

dronepool
02-23-2011, 09:10 PM
Yeah, I don't take them literally just wondering how they came to those levels, but yeah it's meaningless.

Kalyx triaD
02-23-2011, 09:15 PM
Some guy just jotted down shit while looking at pictures maybe.

Crimson
02-23-2011, 09:21 PM
lol..yea how the heck does Spidey have only a 3 on speed??:|

Khuntry
02-23-2011, 09:21 PM
Lol at frank tieri..

Khuntry
02-23-2011, 09:22 PM
Epic mvc3 story.

Kalyx triaD
02-23-2011, 09:34 PM
Chris: "Stop invading us!"

Wolverine: "You stop invading us!"

Dante: "I say wisecracks because that's what my wiki entry says!"

Fucking knew he would do a good job. Wish it was me dammit!

Fignuts
02-23-2011, 10:00 PM
I wish marvel would do a mini series for this.

Kalyx triaD
02-23-2011, 10:09 PM
Surprised they didn't put UDON on it, or maybe that was best..?

Fryza
02-23-2011, 11:38 PM
I find the chart stating Spider-Man's intelligence is a 'four' funny.

Then having the same intelligence as Ryu even more laughable...

dronepool
02-23-2011, 11:53 PM
Dante has 4 for intelligence as well, C Viper has a 5, Chun Li has a 5, Chris Redfield has a 5, Arthur has a 4, Zero has a 5, Morrigan has a 6, Hagger has a 4...

See where I'm going with this?

Kalyx triaD
02-23-2011, 11:55 PM
You know something is wrong when Dante isn't maxed out.

#BROKEN Hasney
02-24-2011, 07:22 AM
Haggar was a fucking mayor. The good people of Metro City wouldn't have put someone with a 4 for intelligence into that prestigious position.

Reavant
02-24-2011, 03:44 PM
why? america put a president in with lower ratings of intellegence twice

Kalyx triaD
02-24-2011, 04:43 PM
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alvarado52
02-24-2011, 05:11 PM
One thing I forgot about is you can knock their other characters back in. That would have been real useful when playing alvy.

Also good to keep in mind when Roxer has Phoenix sitting in the back of the bus while his meter builds up for Dark phoenix. force tag her ass in and drop that trick.

Fignuts
02-25-2011, 03:07 AM
If those stats were accurate, Dormammu would be maxed out in everything. Guy fought eternity for fuck's sake.

Kalyx triaD
02-25-2011, 03:09 AM
Hulk:

(H) xx X-Factor Cancel xx Meteor Hyper = Profit

My brother was trolling hard with this. Stupid powerful and consistent. And you don't need XFC for it, the bounce off (H) is enough.

Blitz
02-25-2011, 05:53 AM
Getting better. Pool/Felicia/Chun are my flagship, She Hulk/Wolvie/Spidey and X23/Morrigan/Zero are my back ups, though they still may see some tweaking.

The Show Off
02-25-2011, 12:45 PM
Whenever I fight I just random the team, the came is more fun to me that way.

Fignuts
02-25-2011, 02:17 PM
Hard Corps: Uprising is keeping me from getting better at this game.

Kalyx triaD
02-25-2011, 03:36 PM
I hate everyone playing Uprising now.

Kalyx triaD
02-25-2011, 03:38 PM
Whenever I fight I just random the team, the came is more fun to me that way.

Heard this before, always seemed strange to me. Well not everyone plays games competitively but competitive games are for everyone[r].

Khuntry
02-25-2011, 04:03 PM
I hate everyone playing Uprising now.

hate yourself for not playing the game.

Kalyx triaD
02-25-2011, 04:05 PM
Touche.

Blitz
02-25-2011, 05:27 PM
May swap Pool our for Viper on my main team. Beastly character.

loopydate
02-25-2011, 07:04 PM
Whenever I fight I just random the team, the came is more fun to me that way.

Me too. My roommate is crazy good and the only way I can compete is if we both play random. I'm solid with Sentinel and M.O.D.O.K., but if we both pick our teams, he crushes me with Dante, Wesker, and whoever tickles his fancy at that moment. I'm still working on my timing to be able to play the speed guys well, although my Spidey is coming along.

Fignuts
02-25-2011, 07:22 PM
Kalyx, don't blame us because your internet connection blows.

Kalyx triaD
02-25-2011, 10:30 PM
Yeah it was laggy-er than usual. Still blaming you though.

Chris Redfield is hilarious.

Kalyx triaD
02-25-2011, 10:53 PM
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The Show Off
02-25-2011, 11:18 PM
Heard this before, always seemed strange to me. Well not everyone plays games competitively but competitive games are for everyone[r].

Yeah I'm just playing for fun. Most of my friends are bad at these games so me playing random is a way to bridge the skill gap. But even online or against the computer I like playing with random characters.

When I was in high school and it was $0.50 to play a game I always played as a specific team for Marvel vs. Capcom 2.

Zangief, Strider, and Shuma Gorath every time. Their were some great players up at my school but I was able to hold my own against them with that team. Perhaps I only random the teams now because my previous squad got shut out of MvC 3.

Blitz
02-25-2011, 11:29 PM
Jill looks intriguing. I'll probably pick her up down the line.

Kalyx triaD
02-25-2011, 11:33 PM
She was recruited the moment I seen she was coming. Since Chris might be joining my gang I may have team S.T.A.R.S after all.

Kalyx triaD
02-26-2011, 12:19 AM
Japanese Combo Vid- Japanese playing Marvel?!

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Super V
02-26-2011, 09:37 AM
Wow all that from one crouching attack? And some really cool looking (seemingly) inifinite combos from Super Skrull and Dante.

Kalyx triaD
02-26-2011, 01:31 PM
They ended so they're not infinite.

Kalyx triaD
02-26-2011, 01:32 PM
What are you even doing here mister "game sucks, I sold it, I'm too cool for this"

Crimson
02-26-2011, 04:34 PM
Are new characters available now??

Kalyx triaD
02-26-2011, 04:44 PM
Not yet. In little over two weeks we get Jill and Shuma. Then perhaps some announcements in the Summer.

Emperor Smeat
02-26-2011, 04:55 PM
Is it $5 per DLC fighter or per pack ?

Not counting those who get it for free from pre-ordering the game.

Kalyx triaD
02-26-2011, 05:01 PM
5$ per character. I don't know if they'll actually sell them separately or if it'll be a pack. Costume DLC appears to be 5$ for six alts.

Super V
02-26-2011, 10:27 PM
What are you even doing here mister "game sucks, I sold it, I'm too cool for this"

Learn to read or get off my nuts.

Kalyx triaD
02-26-2011, 10:54 PM
Learn to read or get off your nuts?

Boomer
02-27-2011, 09:40 AM
I've been really sick with the flu the past four days, so I haven't felt at all like picking up MvC3, but some of Spooky's streams have restored some of my faith in this game. Still sickened by 75% of tournament players using Sent. I guess I don't blame them; he is probably the easiest to pick up and dominate with this early.

Kalyx triaD
02-27-2011, 01:48 PM
Yeah he pretty much is. Unsuspecting players will be crushed often.

RoXer
02-27-2011, 06:10 PM
I'm pretty sure this is impossible to beat on very hard

Kalyx triaD
02-27-2011, 10:43 PM
Dammit, forgot to try Chris' OTG gun loop today.

He's totally in my squad now. Dropping Phoenix. Not meshing with my emerging playstyle.

Ermaximus
02-28-2011, 11:54 AM
I'm pretty sure this is impossible to beat on very hard

Set the round limit to 30 seconds and just spam the ever living shit fuck out of everyone and when you get to Galactus just make sure you have Sentinel in your group and spam forward and X.

Kalyx, are you a first lord yet?

Drakul
02-28-2011, 12:07 PM
If you want to do it "cheaply", use MODOK, spam psionic blast as much as you can and then fly up into the corner opposite your opponent whenever they get close to waste time.

Also, why does Morrigans voice actor flip between an American and Scottish accent?

Ermaximus
02-28-2011, 12:12 PM
If you want to do it "cheaply", use MODOK, spam psionic blast as much as you can and then fly up into the corner opposite your opponent whenever they get close to waste time.

Also, why does Morrigans voice actor flip between an American and Scottish accent?

She sounded British to me, but then again, I turned on the Japanese voices for pretty much all the Capcom people except Arthur, Dante, Haggar, Trish, Wesker, and Chris.

Drakul
02-28-2011, 12:24 PM
By British, do you mean English?

I can't quite put my finger on it bit it was sort of an Edinburgh accent, I think. Not the stereotypical thick accent.

I've never really been a fan of Japanese voice acting. It doesn't seem to have the variation that western voice acting has. That could be because I'm not Japanese, though.

Kalyx triaD
02-28-2011, 01:45 PM
Kalyx, are you a first lord yet?

I cannot connect to Rank games. I have a peasly above average percentage because I've yet to put [how I play now] to the test in Ranked. I can only play lobby or random Player matches. Hope Capcom fixes this.

Kalyx triaD
02-28-2011, 01:56 PM
Free Shadow Mode and 5$ Costume Pack Tuesday:

http://media.eventhubs.com/images/2011/02/15_dlcpics21.jpg
http://media.eventhubs.com/images/2011/02/07_shadow02.jpg

dronepool
02-28-2011, 02:01 PM
This Tuesday? Before the DLC's? Weird.

dronepool
02-28-2011, 02:05 PM
I played on very easy just to kill boredom and I beat Galactus with Wolverine and X-23 (He flick killed Deadpool) in just about under a minute by spamming the slash attacks.

Fignuts
02-28-2011, 02:09 PM
As long as you block when he goes to swat you, you're fine.

Reavant
02-28-2011, 02:18 PM
Dormamu's special attack is insane. If you put the xfactor on he will kill anyone with just one usage... the one where he puts you in a ball in his hand and crushes you

Drakul
02-28-2011, 02:25 PM
I don't know if it's been mentioned yet but we're getting another mode DLC eventually, I think.

In the title select screen, there are titles you can only unlock in the Shadow mode DLC and below those are titles you can only unlock by completeing "Events" so maybe we're getting an event mode DLC.

Kalyx triaD
02-28-2011, 02:25 PM
Most lvl3 hypers are pretty crazy, especially with XF.

Kalyx triaD
02-28-2011, 02:26 PM
I don't know if it's been mentioned yet but we're getting another mode DLC eventually, I think.

In the title select screen, there are titles you can only unlock in the Shadow mode DLC and below those are titles you can only unlock by completeing "Events" so maybe we're getting an event mode DLC.

SSF4 had titles reserved for official tournies so we could get similar stuff here.

Fignuts
02-28-2011, 02:32 PM
Is spectator mode coming with shadow?

Kalyx triaD
02-28-2011, 02:38 PM
Unlikely. That would have been bigger news.

Ermaximus
02-28-2011, 03:19 PM
So we have to pay for the costume DLC, but Shadow Mode is free?

Kalyx triaD
02-28-2011, 03:31 PM
Yes.

Funky Fly
02-28-2011, 03:32 PM
Those costume packs are a license to print money. SF4 and SSF4 had them at $4 a pack, with 5 and 7 packs total respectively. That's and extra $20 and $70 right there. And I (and a lot of people) have all the fucking costumes. Ridiculous how they get you.

Kalyx triaD
02-28-2011, 03:48 PM
I'm a slave to awesome.

Fignuts
02-28-2011, 06:22 PM
Funny cause there was only like 2 packs that I actually wanted, but I would often find myself with spare MS points, and thus, I now have them all.

Prolly gonna hit up som SSF4 soon. Don't want to get rusty.

Funky Fly
02-28-2011, 06:58 PM
I'm out. Gonna be Oblivioning it up all day.

Fignuts
02-28-2011, 07:00 PM
Can't wait til you beat that game.

YOU NEVER PAY ATTENTION TO US ANYMORE

Funky Fly
02-28-2011, 07:01 PM
Don't get your hopes up. Dragon Age 2 is out in 8 days.

Kalyx triaD
03-01-2011, 02:30 AM
Had a set with my bro and another (brief one) with Khuntry. My footsie game is much improved after some coaching from my brother. This pretty means I take full advantage of jumping and crouching pokes more often. Wesker/Chris/Dante is most likely my main team now, X23/Trish/Dante being the secondary. My set-ups still need some work but I have bitchin pay-off combos. Glad to say I use air-tagging more often. Using Wesker's counter hyper more often too.

Since using using the new main team in Ranked games (Fight Request on arcade mode is the way to go), I've lost once while mostly winning (soundly). Wesker's tricky offense coupled with Chris' keepaway is much appreciated. And Dante's Jam Session assist makes me feel naughty. The key with this team is the OTG pistol > Jam Session follow-ups. Lovin it.

Khuntry got some trick shit with Tron but I won't spoil it for you. His Skrull is also proving to be a bother. Fuck Dormammu. Guy's a fortress.

Blitz
03-01-2011, 03:04 AM
Just had the absolute sweetest round against a guy playing Doom/Hulk/Sent. Was using all the usual cheap sent BS. So Felicia and Pool took some life off his 3 characters, but it came down to Chun with about half life vs all. Turned on Xfactor and took out Doom and took out Sent and Hulk without it. Sweet victory.

Kalyx triaD
03-01-2011, 03:21 AM
Can't wait for Sparda Alt for Dante. Hope it comes in black.

Kalyx triaD
03-01-2011, 05:41 AM
Costumes are selectable with RT. THEY DO NOT HAVE ALT COLORS.

Sparda alt is purple which is all kinds of up my alley but I would have loved a black version.

alvarado52
03-01-2011, 05:43 AM
these downloads are kbs big. Go Capcom. Fuckers.

Ermaximus
03-01-2011, 11:11 AM
Downloading DLC now along with the Dead Space 2 DLC.

Super V
03-01-2011, 08:48 PM
Just had a realization that if they brought back the infinity gems and added some multiplatform stages and a 6 player mode this would officially be the best party game ever.

Kalyx triaD
03-02-2011, 06:36 PM
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Peep that She-Hulk play at the start. Note: Most air-throws can be followed up by OTG moves.

Kalyx triaD
03-03-2011, 02:31 AM
If tonight's session with Khuntry is any indication; Chris is way past the awkward phase and he's a fully fledged member of my team. Khuntry's Dormammu is a dirty guy, and he has new tricks with Skrull I didn't see a few nights ago. Can't wait to play the guys offline soon.

I love when people find out the hard way that Dante's not just an assist or lvl3 XF crutch, he's the leader of the team. When all else fails, he doesn't[tm]. Got a ten streak on Ranked matches (and counting, good night for me). Stuffing guys with bigger streaks is lovely. Especially love shutting down flowchart Sents. 70+% on Ranked!

Dante is awesome, he has everything I need.

Blitz
03-03-2011, 04:20 AM
Downloaded the strat guide for this. Such a ridic amount of info.

Kalyx triaD
03-03-2011, 04:23 AM
That guide is really good.

Drakul
03-07-2011, 02:51 AM
It took ages for the game to actually find a Ranked Match for me tonight and, when I finally got a match, I was put up against a 9th lord ranked player.

He was Dante, Deadpool and Wolverine and I got him down do the very last pixel of health (I'm just Rookie rank) and he starts spamming Trigger Happy to beat my last fighters final chunk of health.

How good is 9th lord? Is it a case of the higher the number the better the player (9th lord is better than 8th lord) or is it the other way around (8th lord is better than 9th lord)?

Was a real FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU moment, either way.

Fignuts
03-07-2011, 02:55 AM
This is why I am sticking mainly to SSFIV

Blitz
03-07-2011, 03:22 AM
I'm pretty sure the higher the number, the better. First Lord is best I think.

I have yet to be able to connect to a ranked match. Don't care, player matches are better.

Ermaximus
03-07-2011, 11:02 AM
No, the lower the rank the better.

It goes Beginner, Amateur, Rookie, Fighter, then 9th Lord, 8th Lord, 7th Lord, 6th Lord, 5th Lord, 4th Lord, 3rd Lord, 2nd Lord, 1st Lord, then who knows.

RoXer
03-07-2011, 12:16 PM
Turn fight request on in arcade mode

alvarado52
03-07-2011, 05:37 PM
Dunno about you all, but when I play rank all I get is dantes, sent assist spams, and wolvie beserker slash

Ermaximus
03-07-2011, 05:43 PM
Dunno about you all, but when I play rank all I get is dantes, sent assist spams, and wolvie beserker slash

That's pretty much all I get too, with the occasional teleporting Wesker or unibeam spamming Iron Man.

Blitz
03-07-2011, 10:35 PM
All I get is Dantes in either mode.

Drakul
03-08-2011, 12:16 AM
Every team seems to include Dante and then either Deadpool or Wolverine or both.

Funky Fly
03-08-2011, 12:55 AM
I use all 3 of those guys, but rarely together. Maybe that's my problem.

Drakul
03-08-2011, 02:18 AM
It's one of the things that bugs me about online in fighting games. People don't choose characters they like or characters they are good with. It's just whoever will make ranking up easier. That's pointless because then you face off against someone that got the same rank as you through being good with characters so you get beaten by them.

Saying that, I just beat a 5th lord (I'm a Fighter rank now) who was using Dante, Sentinel and Pheonix. He got Dark Pheonix, and then tagged her out to save her for last. I KO both Dante and Sentinel and in comes Dark Pheonix. He uses X-Factor and starts throwing fire everywhere but I still beat him without losing a single team member.

Dark Pheonix using X-Factor is still insanely weak. One Hulk Crush took off the vast majority of her health and then it was just one H punch and that was it.

Kalyx triaD
03-08-2011, 02:22 AM
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Drakul
03-08-2011, 04:28 AM
I can't say Jill looks that interesting to me but Shuma-Gorath does. I'll give him a spin at some point.

Ermaximus
03-08-2011, 10:39 AM
Hahaha. I just wrecked someones shit with Arthur, Viewtiful Joe, and Zero. He was so pissed. Hahahahahaha.

alvarado52
03-08-2011, 06:07 PM
Joe is no joke. I've been experimenting with him.

Blitz
03-08-2011, 09:47 PM
Yeah played a couple of rounds with him the other day and was intrigued. May look at a team of Joe, Ammy, and someone else.

Drakul
03-09-2011, 01:24 AM
I'm trying to think about who to add to my team. Right now, my "main" team is Hagger, Hulk and Taskmaster.

Hulk and Taskmaster are great but I'm realising Hagger may be a weak link. His spinning lariet is unusuable (I refuse to use a move that will cause me damage), his hyper combos are useless 90+% of the time and his grabs are not at all practical in a player vs player fight, especially when almost every single fight consists of fighting Dante and the Spamettes. Every fight I am winning turns into me trying to get around "Unibeam! Unibeam! Unibeam!" or something.
He has his uses and I'm good with him but he's trailing behind Hulk and Taskmaster in terms of usability and effectivness.

I'm just not sure who, if anyone, should replace him. Suggestions?

Funky Fly
03-09-2011, 02:36 AM
Spencer?

Ermaximus
03-09-2011, 09:49 AM
Yea, if you can get his grabs down, Spencer can stop a spammer pretty quickly. Felicia is a good choice too as she'll wreck some spammers.

Blitz
03-09-2011, 11:27 AM
If projectile spamming is all that bothers you, then Felicia and Spidey can get around that pretty easily. Spencer I find a bit slower, but he still does fine.

Drakul
03-09-2011, 12:47 PM
I'm able to do the basics with Spencer but I've not used him enough to get to a decent level at all.

I take back what I said about Haggar, though. He's not THAT bad. Used him online today and took out the first two members of the opposing team and got the final guy down to the last chunk before getting K.O.'d (I had let my first two members get beaten easily as I was about to leave the lobby anyway).

Oddly enough, Haggers rubbish as a grappler but he's not so bad as a striker, especially for launch into an air combo.

I'm pretty curious to hear who everyone has a their "main" team.

Crimson
03-09-2011, 08:56 PM
Ironman,Tron, and Sentinel..yup im a noob

Fignuts
03-09-2011, 09:20 PM
Good thing I bought this game I can't play anymore. Fucking knew I should have bought Killzone 3.

HeartBreakMan2k
03-09-2011, 09:53 PM
Using Cap, Doom and Deadpool primarily. X23 subs in for Cap sometimes. I'm still pretty terrible though which is frustrating. Like, I get some of the concepts, just can't really figure out how to link moves for some reason..

Ermaximus
03-15-2011, 10:43 AM
So did anyone else who got the Limited Edition get their extra characters yet? Still haven't gotten my email from them with the code.

RoXer
03-15-2011, 10:53 AM
It's on the back of the comic

Ermaximus
03-15-2011, 11:12 AM
I know that. I redeemed it via the site on the back when I got the game and they said they'd email me a code by the 15th. I haven't gotten shit from them yet. Dunno how long it takes.

HeartBreakMan2k
03-15-2011, 01:45 PM
I just got my email. Check your spam. That's where it went for me.

Funky Fly
03-15-2011, 02:12 PM
Should probably register that shit, yeah?

HeartBreakMan2k
03-15-2011, 02:35 PM
Probably.

Ermaximus
03-15-2011, 02:44 PM
Nm. Just went back to the site I registered my code at and they had my code there. Never got the email though, but eh, as long as I have the 2 characters I paid $10 for I'm good.

Funky Fly
03-15-2011, 03:04 PM
I don't know why, but the redeem page for the characters never seems to load properly for me. Then when I try to register, I get taken to a blank page.

wtf? Anyone else having trouble?

Majunior
03-15-2011, 04:36 PM
Main team?

I haven't really settled on one. SuperSkrull is a must for wrecking the AI with no effort.

Playing though? Taskmaster. Beyond him, I'm not really settled on my other two. The others I've put time into have aspects of them that I like, but no one is standing out to me yet. I tend to default to either Cap, Thor, and Iron Man/Hulk (Avengers Assemble!), Taskmaster, Pool, and X-23, or Taskmaster, Hsien-Ko, and Felicia.

Kalyx triaD
03-16-2011, 05:11 AM
My new team of Wesker/Chris/Jill needs training. Will be online today hosting rooms. Get over the fact that you watch credits cards have sex most of the time and join me.

Ermaximus
03-16-2011, 10:15 AM
Jill has fucked my whole order of things up. God I love that arrow kick.

alvarado52
03-16-2011, 09:31 PM
Thought the dlc was delayed?

Ermaximus
03-17-2011, 04:24 PM
Only in Europe.

Drakul
03-18-2011, 12:54 PM
No, we got it when you guys did. It's Japan that has it delayed for obvious reasons.

Ermaximus
03-18-2011, 02:06 PM
I stand corrected then Alvarado.

Kalyx triaD
03-18-2011, 07:13 PM
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alvarado52
03-19-2011, 12:06 AM
I'm gonna attempt to add Jill to my roster

Kalyx triaD
03-22-2011, 08:19 AM
snip

Boomer
03-22-2011, 06:09 PM
Well happy day. Patch released today nerfed some infinites, and Sent's health.

If only I had time to play, and not resign myself to watching streaming for my fix instead.

Drakul
03-23-2011, 02:01 AM
Why mess with Sentinals health? Did people really get that bent out of shape over him?

He's a massive mutant killing robot. He should have a large amount of health. I know it's just a game so details like that don't matter but it's similar to the excuse they used with Sagat in SFIV. "He's 7'2 so that's why we made him so good."

So the way it works is:
1. Game releases
2. People realise they suck against a big strong character
3. Everyone complains to Capcom about it because Capcom clearly must have screwed up. There is no way it could be that the complainers "mad tourney skillz" aren't as good as they like to believe they are.
4. Capcom kisses it better with a patch when they should really just tell them to get better at the game.

I'm catching on to this fighting community thing fast.

I notice no one ever wants the "cool" character in a fighting game changed. No one is asking for Dante to be weakened or given less health. He is perfect because he is who the complainers use and to negatively alter him would be wrong.

If we're talking about changing characters because we don't enjoy fighting them then I'd like Dante changed. He's fast, has too many moves from every angle and homing projectiles. It's unfair to me because I use big slow characters. I don't want to improve my playing, I just want Capcom to reduce his effectiveness against my characters so I can win more.

The last paragraph isn't serious, obviously. I wouldn't ask Dante to be changed. I'll just play against him until I figure out what works and I become overall better at the game. Like you're supposed to!

Fignuts
03-23-2011, 02:21 AM
Or it could be because a character is legit unbalanced.

Kalyx triaD
03-23-2011, 02:24 AM
Can't say I expected this reaction from Drakul.

I'm indifferent to the change. I guess have less excuses losing to him, but that won't be the case. I'd say his damage was a bigger reason for the tears than his stamina but whatever.

They need to get on that spectator feature 24/7.

And BTW, Sentinel was fine, imo. He has less options than people are willing to admit because they let him run them down. I had more problems with Zero (and my brother picking up Phoenix) than flowchart Sents.

Drakul
03-23-2011, 02:29 AM
True but you can't really talk about balance in an MvC3 game, can you?

Using Dante has an example again. He is fast, he has a lot of moves that can be done both on the ground and in the air and he has homing missles. He has good health and he does good damage. That's hardly balanced when you get characters like Joe who moves slowly and, if I remember rightly, doesn't do much damage.

Maybe Sentinal could be considered unbalanced but so are a couple other characters (not specifically to their advantage) who probably wont be touched by Capcom because the community isn't upset about it as much as they are about Sentinal, if at all.

alvarado52
03-23-2011, 02:47 AM
My only issue with Sent was the assist spamming.

Kalyx triaD
03-23-2011, 02:49 AM
Well as a Dante player I can say he's more straight forward than you think. And he actually has low HP. His homing missiles take years to start up and has long recovery. It actually loses to a lot of projectiles.

Well... I guess you're of the grappler type so I can see how Dante may be a problem to you.

I've been messing with Spencer lately, the guy hits hard as shit and cannot be trusted from any range. Very sneaky. Also been using Felicia; just learned her 'kitten helper' will continue her cute little splashes so long as you press buttons, that means she'll attack even is Felicia is full screen away. I thought she followed you around. The kitten helper hits overhead, so a combo with the kitten and a low hitting assist cannot be blocked.

Drakul
03-23-2011, 03:05 AM
Can't say I expected this reaction from Drakul.

It's just something that bugs me. People find a character they can't beat easily enough and, instead of playing until they get good enough, they all start to hate the character, consider him cheap and want him nerfed.

He's considered too strong but, like I said before, he's a giant killer robot. Of course he'll be strong. He's also big and slow. Sentinal Force takes a week just to get on the screen, nevermind actually connecting. If someone knows how to play the game decently, they could probably destroy Sentinal with ease. He's a massive, slow purple target. Wouldn't the "Hit 'n' Run" tactic work there?

You can say he's unbalanced but that sort of depends who you play as, doesn't it? It feels a little unbalanced playing as Haggar online against Magneto when all you get is Disruptor or one of his other projectiles. Playing with another projectile character against Magneto feels a little more balanced.

Anyway, it was about 6am when I made my rant and I hadn't had breakfast yet.

Well as a Dante player I can say he's more straight forward than you think. And he actually has low HP. His homing missiles take years to start up and has long recovery. It actually loses to a lot of projectiles.

Well... I guess you're of the grappler type so I can see how Dante may be a problem to you.

He seems to last just as long as anyone else so he can't have that low an HP. Unless I'm just not noticing because I use high damage characters like Hulk anyway. (Who needs 80 hit combos* and subtlety, right?)

I do have a problem with him but I get around it. Sometimes I win, sometimes I lose. I play and eventually get better and I wish more people would do that against characters like Sentinal or Zangief in SSFIV instead of forming a hate club about them and wanting them nerfed.
I'd never ask for Dante to be nerfed. He's beatable and, even though it can be really hard online, it's doable and that's all I need to know.

My only issue with Sent was the assist spamming.

It's my only issue with pretty much every character.

*Here's a question for everyone. What has your biggest combo been so far? In training or in an actual fight. Mine is 144 in training. It's "Galactic" apparantly.

Kalyx triaD
03-23-2011, 03:24 AM
I don't remember my longest combo, but was probably with Chris and his revolver relaunch shenanigans coupled with air tags.

alvarado52
03-23-2011, 04:01 AM
Yeah I'm not much of a combo guy, but I'm oddly decent at this game

Khuntry
03-23-2011, 10:13 AM
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Boomer
03-23-2011, 10:15 AM
Having watched a ton of tourneys over the past few weeks, I just hope it might encourage people to try out somebody besides Sent. Like I said a while ago, I'm sure its mostly because his combos are so easy and his damage is so ridiculous, but I really want to see some new team dynamics. The only characters I've yet to see used in tourney are Thor, Jill, and Viper AFAIK. Haven't seen much of Ryu either; he seems to be outclassed by Akuma in almost every way.

But its a fun game to watch for sure. And character exploration takes time, I know. Have been really happy with the amount of characters from SSFIV I've seen in the past few months. Even managed to see a Hakan get 3rd Place in singles at Marvel Madness.

Kalyx triaD
03-23-2011, 10:21 AM
We're already seeing some interesting stuff from recent tournaments. Sent gets chosen less and less as time goes by.

Ryu = Akuma, I don't see any clear advantages for either. There's definitely reasons for choosing one or the other.

Boomer
03-23-2011, 10:35 AM
The character I tend to have the most fun watching right now is Ammy, just because people are getting so on-point with the weapon switching. I have still yet to be impressed by anything from Viewtiful Joe or Arthur; I've seen players play them competently, but they don't seem to have a whole lot going for them in general.

Kalyx triaD
03-23-2011, 11:18 AM
I can't help but think a 1v1 mode would help people appreciate each character's overall concept, so we don't see assist dependent shenanigans and people sleeping on characters who are secretly amazing.

RoXer
03-23-2011, 01:41 PM
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D Mac
03-24-2011, 05:11 AM
Finally got around to playing this on PS3. Pretty fun. A lot less frustrating then SSFIV. Beat it on medium.

Funky Fly
03-24-2011, 03:18 PM
Why are you getting all of the fighters for PS3? We're not gonna bite your head off D Mac... unless it's a move in the game.

Drakul
03-26-2011, 06:01 AM
Event Mode is now unlocked.

It is under the Xbox Live section. You select from 17 events and, rather than start the event from there, it just changes the settings of Arcade mode to that challenge. So I'm doing one that requires me to beat Arcade mode with diminished health bar. I selected that event and then just went to Arcade mode as normal and my health is already lower than usual.

D Mac
03-26-2011, 06:17 AM
Why are you getting all of the fighters for PS3? We're not gonna bite your head off D Mac... unless it's a move in the game.

I just saw it and and grabbed it. Rental. Will probably buy used later on.

Kalyx triaD
03-29-2011, 06:16 PM
DLC Rumor List:

Marvel

Dr Octopus
Juggernaut
Elektra
Apocalypse (Holy shit)
Iceman
Thanos
Ms Marvel

Capcom

Frank West
Phoenix Wright
Megaman X (Now shut up, Khuntry)
Gene
Talbain (Now shut up, Alva)
Strider (Now shut up, everyone else)
Gail

Frank West, Phoenix Wright, Dr Octopus and Juggernaut will be revealed at Capcom Captivate* next week. When the next batch of DLC characters are released we will get the a Phoenix Wright court stage. Also a full game version will be out next year.(??)

This is all info from a user named Lupinko* so believe it or not.

I'm unusually confident in this info because it lines up with other, seemingly unrelated actions of Capcom. My only doubts stem from the fact that I don't fully believe Capcom would add that many characters without outright making a sequel (even though updates aren't really a Vs thing like it is for SF). We'll see in a few weeks, when the embargo lifts from Captivate. Hey, we first heard of MvC3 at last year's Captivate. Anniversary time!

*Captivate is Capcom's E3 like show that pretty much operates similarly. This year will cover a load of fighting games presumably.

*Lupinku who tweeted the entirety of MvC3 before release, and who I believe to be a viral agent of Capcom.

alvarado52
03-29-2011, 07:35 PM
Apocalypse!!!!!!!

I would nut.

Ermaximus
03-29-2011, 07:38 PM
Dude, Apocalypse would rape everyone in the game.

LuigiD
03-29-2011, 10:03 PM
Iceman was one of my favorites from MVC2 so I would love to see him back.
Doc sounds like he would be a blast.

Drakul
03-30-2011, 02:48 AM
From that DLC list, Doc Ock, Juggernaut, Apocalypse, possibly Miss Marvel and Frank West intereset me. The other, not so much. Surprised/dissapointed to see no Venom.

I hope Iceman isn't as annoying as he was in MvC2.

Shadow Battle 02 is out now for 80 MSP and has another 3 AIs to fight.

Also two more Events have been unlocked. One turns Arcade into a series of 1 on 1 fights and the other turns it into a 2 on 2 tag fight.

Kalyx triaD
03-30-2011, 05:09 AM
WELL SHIT HOW ABOUT WE RELEASE THOSE MODES FOR VS?!

Capcom trolling.

Kalyx triaD
03-30-2011, 05:38 AM
Context: There was a fellow player at the tournament constantly heckling another for a while. At one time he even put his hands on the guy's personal items, but the player - Noel - let it slide. After another match the heckler remained heckling Noel, and well... we all have that Limit Break...

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alvarado52
03-30-2011, 05:55 AM
Was that you sitting on the chair Kalyx?

Kalyx triaD
03-30-2011, 06:35 AM
lol no.

Ermaximus
03-30-2011, 10:59 AM
Only 3 more people to beat arcade with and I'm done with that shit, until I do the rest of the events. Haggar, Super Skrull, and Shuma.

Drakul
03-30-2011, 01:43 PM
You can either pick your two best characters and one character you've not finished Arcade with and then beat Galactus with your best guys and tag in Hagger or whoever for the final hit so it counts as doing Arcade with him.

Or you can make a team up of the 3 you've not finished with and that way you're guaranteed a new ending.

Ermaximus
03-30-2011, 03:53 PM
You can either pick your two best characters and one character you've not finished Arcade with and then beat Galactus with your best guys and tag in Hagger or whoever for the final hit so it counts as doing Arcade with him.

Or you can make a team up of the 3 you've not finished with and that way you're guaranteed a new ending.

Nah, I've found the best way to do it now is to pick a character I haven't beaten the game with and select the 1 vs 1 event from event mode and you go through the arcade in less than 5 minutes.

Kalyx triaD
03-31-2011, 06:08 AM
Capcom comes out to debunk the DLC list, as per the usual reaction to those things.

We'll see what it is in a few weeks.

Drakul
03-31-2011, 07:33 AM
Has anyone been getting a brief pause at the start of each fight after the latest update? These last couple of days after the first 4 or 5 seconds of any fight, the game freezes for a second or two and then continues.

I'm playing from the hard drive, which I think may be the problem. Anyone else getting this, though?

I'm still getting neg rep on Live for being too aggressive. It still baffles me how I can be "too aggressive" in a fighting game.

#BROKEN Hasney
03-31-2011, 07:42 AM
Has anyone been getting a brief pause at the start of each fight after the latest update? These last couple of days after the first 4 or 5 seconds of any fight, the game freezes for a second or two and then continues.

I'm playing from the hard drive, which I think may be the problem. Anyone else getting this, though?

I'm still getting neg rep on Live for being too aggressive. It still baffles me how I can be "too aggressive" in a fighting game.

lol yeah, I noticed my rep % dropped after I was playing SF4 online a lot for being too aggressive.

Kalyx triaD
03-31-2011, 07:57 AM
There has been snippets of freeze since the update.

Ermaximus
03-31-2011, 10:52 AM
Kalyx, how the fuck am I ranked higher than you? I checked that shit last night and it can't be right. You're way better than me at this game.

Kalyx triaD
03-31-2011, 11:09 AM
I don't play ranked as much, I would certainly be a much higher rank had I continued (if my rank percentage is any indication). I think I'm on a streak last I played. But with the game being out of reach mostly and now my Live is silver, won't be on ranked for a while.

Even when I return I play offline and player matches more often anyway, same as SSF4 - which I think we'll all have a good reason to return to late summer.

Drakul
04-06-2011, 12:34 PM
2 more Events are unlocked.

One turns Arcade mode into a survival style mode with your health carrying over into each fight and the other has you fighting against 3 MODOKs in every fight.

Kalyx triaD
04-06-2011, 12:44 PM
Ugh.

Ermaximus
04-06-2011, 01:33 PM
They're not even trying with these events are they?

Kalyx triaD
04-06-2011, 01:58 PM
Some of the could have been full blown modes. Thank god the actual game is great because maaaaaaaaaaaan.

Ermaximus
04-06-2011, 02:01 PM
Some of the could have been full blown modes. Thank god the actual game is great because maaaaaaaaaaaan.

I'm waiting for the event that has you fight only Sentinels that do nothing but rocket punch assist spam.

Kalyx triaD
04-06-2011, 02:18 PM
Ryu beam super owns that right there.

Khuntry
04-07-2011, 12:19 AM
Maaaaaaaaaaan.... I dont know

Kalyx triaD
04-07-2011, 12:20 AM
Any beam super shuts down a lot of shit. It's the 'stop that shit' move.

Kalyx triaD
04-07-2011, 03:00 PM
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RoXer
04-07-2011, 03:17 PM
Holy shit that 2nd match

Kalyx triaD
04-07-2011, 03:20 PM
A mistimed assist will fuck you over. I honestly love that about this game.

(Marn gets fucked up in the grand final. Good for him.)

RoXer
04-07-2011, 03:26 PM
but it didnt fuck him over. he won

Kalyx triaD
04-07-2011, 03:31 PM
I think if he had a choice, he rather not have lost two characters in the first 6secs. Nobody goes in hoping for that. Even if he did snatch a win. It was crazy.

Kalyx triaD
04-07-2011, 03:48 PM
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Hilarious hate for Dark Phoenix. (3:00)