Noid, lets get on some gimmick repacking here...

[Johnny Vegas]

Alright, basically i'm going to give you an idea on something and someone who's gimmick is lacking that "little something" or just needs a whole repacking. (Noid is not the only person to hear from, its just that he takes this stuff seriously..probably more serious than anybody on TPWW...i now dubb him as either "Mr. Wrestling", "King Booker"..lol dont know about that one..or "Professor Noid".)

Alright, i was tihnking that Alicia Fox, Gail Kim, and maybe Maryse need to be in a group together. It's kind of like an upbeat, always going to the club or parties, goes shopping, and gives their take on events or celebrities, or wrestlers in the WWE with a given "segment". Could be called "3G" (since that noun is becoming so popular now with technology, can cross over) or "M.A.G."..self explanatory...or MND (Monday Night Divas)..just throwing stuff out there.

Their entrance theme..im thinking "Bad Romance"/"Just Dance" type of theme..maybe have some body like a Zeke as a body guard come to the ring with them and accompany them on their shopping segments, their party or even segments, etc.

They could even be allies of ShowMiz as heels or do what i said above as faces. They could be what brings in more of the female audience (other than Cena lol) and could arrive in nice convertable cars, or blacked out SUVs with a driver.

Give me some feedback on this, "bros."

[kareru]

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[AngryMidjit]

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[AngryMidjit]

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[Jakob Synn]

I think it's not a good idea. I used to like Maryse, but now she just seems lame and is really doing nothing to attract me in except the same old boring things.

[HBPunk]

(Noid is not the only person to hear from, its just that he takes this stuff seriously..probably more serious than anybody on TPWW...i now dubb him as either "Mr. Wrestling", "King Booker"..lol dont know about that one..or "Professor Noid".)
Give me some feedback on this, "bros."

Well i think you should just pluck up the courage and ask Noid out dude. whats the worst that can happen, at least if he says no you can then move on. i say go for it, you owe it to yourself and you deserve to be happy. x


re: your divas idea. you could save the huge chunk of money spent on lady gaga songs and just release them all. both our ideas would get them over the exact same amount - Not at all

[The Show Off]

Still want to know who that chick in your sig is Johnny.

[HBPunk]

Still want to know who that chick in your sig is Johnny.

pretty sure its scott hall from his razor days, same hair anyway

[The Show Off]

pretty sure its scott hall from his razor days, same hair anyway

Never knew Scott Hall had that phenomonal of an ass...

[HBPunk]

Never knew Scott Hall had that phenomonal of an ass...

had man, had. what a babe he was back then

[The Show Off]

had man, had. what a babe he was back then

Its a shame what drinking can do.

[HBPunk]

Its a shame what drinking can do.

well i was drunk monday and i thought he looked fine, fuckin beer goggles

[HBPunk]

sexy fine

[Jakob Synn]

had man, had. what a babe he was back then

Scott Hall was a babe back then, but then alcohol entered the picture.

[HBPunk]

Its a shame what drinking can do.

Scott Hall was a babe back then, but then alcohol entered the picture.

Eh yeah jacob we kinda established that already, FAIL

[Jakob Synn]

Eh yeah jacob we kinda established that already, FAIL

Alright. Whatever you say.

[Johnny Vegas]

Still want to know who that chick in your sig is Johnny.

some girl/model by the name of "Bubbles"

[Mr. Nerfect]

Yeah, I think I'm in love with Bubbles. Thanks for the the sig and kind words, Mr Vegas.

As for the idea -- I like it, and it would be a bit more relevant to people than Simply Flawless on SmackDown!, but I'd change the women in the group. I'd actually bring some women up from FCW to form the group -- Courtney Taylor, Liviana, etc. Maybe have have Rosa Mendes in there, with Zack Ryder remaining her boyfriend. You could even do a heel turn for Eve, and have her and Chris Masters join.

For Alicia Fox -- I would move her back to SmackDown! where she earns the ire of Vickie Guerrero for what she did with Edge back in the day. They don't have to reference it completely, but Vickie can hold the grudge, and Fox can become a sympathetic babyface (maybe to the point where she is linked to Edge on-screen). I think Fox has got the potential to develop into a strong character and performer, and as a heel I just don't feel anything there for her.

I would pair Maryse on-air with The Miz and Big Show now that The Miz is rocking so much gold. ShoMiz seem to be moving into a feud with The Hart Dynasty, so Maryse could find a challenger for the Divas Title in Natalya. That would potentially make me care about that championship.

[Johnny Vegas]

I just think that a "cool" female stable is long overdue. Not this "all of the face versus the heels" type of thing we've been seeing for the last 5 years. Something that we can say "hey, don't need to have a piss break" when they show up on TV.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I don't know if you want to discuss other random gimmick repackaging and such here, but while watching SmackDown! this week, I had a really weird thought: I REALLY want Funaki to join The Straight-Edge Society. I don't even think he should join for the "drug free, alcohol free" thing; but just to "maximise his potential." CM Punk finds strength in numbers, and going after whatever minds he can could build up his ranks.

You just have CM Punk come out and cut a promo, talking about how he wants to save as many people as he can, and there is one man he wants to focus on tonight. He turns his attention to Funaki (who is in the back), and he says that he has lined up the production team to play Funaki's music, so he wants Funaki to do him the honour of coming out and hearing what he has to say. "Kung Fu Naki's" theme music hits, and Funaki comes out in dress clothes, looking a bit confused.

CM Punk cuts an epic promo about how Funaki was one of the most respected junior heavyweights in Japan when he came to the WWE, and he came over with such great hopes of conquering the west, but instead he has settled for a comfy paycheck. He ridicules Funaki for not being seen in months, and how he didn't even need to bring wrestling attire tonight because he knows he would not have been booked. Punk says that he is kept under contract because he is such a good competitor, and it'd be stupid to let him go, but Funaki himself has become complacement, and no longer strives to be anyone.

I dunno, that sort of shit. The idea is to break Funaki, and then get him angry at the WWE for "forgetting about him." Punk then offers Funaki a chance to be "reborn" under Straight-Edge, like Luke Gallows -- who was also going nowhere before he found Punk (cue Gallows taking off his cap and revealing his bald head). Funaki is then given the choice to join The Straight-Edge Society, and become relevant to the WWE Universe (ugh) again. Funaki accepts, as Todd Grisham and Matt Striker talk about how they have known Funaki as a fun loving guy for a long time, and Punk has altered that.

Funaki gets his head shaved, and there is a celebration by Serena and Gallows as Punk welcomes Funaki to a society that will not forget him and will not leave him behind. He says that Funaki needs to shed his past, so from now on he will be known as "Shoichi," to go back to a time before he was a joke. Punk reveals that they have had attire made up for him, and then give Funaki a new singlet with the SES logo on the front, and "Sho1chi" written on the side. His first assignment will be to "soften up" Rey Mysterio.

Shoichi can use CM Punk's entrance theme for his match against Mysterio, and he looks a little reluctant, even with his newly shaved head. He gets in the ring, and offers Rey his hand, as Matt Striker suggests that even though Shoichi is in The Straight-Edge Society, he remains the same respectful competitor at heart. Mysterio accepts the hand and the former Funaki cheap-shots him as Striker reverses himself "Whoa! Maybe not! I like this Shoichi!"

Shoichi starts the match off strong against Rey Mysterio, but Rey of course gets control, and manages to send Shoichi out of the ring with a tilt-a-whirl headscissors. What would normally be reluctance by an out-matched Funaki can be converted into cowardice, as Shoichi does not want to get back in the ring immediately with Mysterio. He eventually gets control of the match, however, when CM Punk gets involved, and we get the usual heel control as Matt Striker talks about the power Shoichi has been granted by joining the SES. Mysterio makes a second comeback, and is about to win the match when the SES pull some more funky shit, and out of nowhere Shoichi hits a Superkick on Mysterio and actually gets the pin.

Funaki can start using his Superkick and calling it the "Straight-Edge Superkick" or something corny like that. You can give it a proper name. Shoichi can become a sort of "translator" for CM Punk, as reading up on Funaki's Wikipedia page, it says that along with Japanese and English, Funaki is semi-fluent in French, German, Portugese and Spanish. You can shed Funaki's "funny English speaking" image, and let him cut promos echoing Punk's message in several different languages.

The idea would not be to make Funaki a World Champion, or anything. But it would take a guy who has been under contract for something like twelve years, repackage him, and give him a consistent role on SmackDown! as a credible heel. When the time comes for him to leave the Straight-Edge Society, as well, who knows -- Funaki could even get a nice face push from it, as he reveals himself to be "Shoichi Funaki," a complete person and neither too fun-loving nor too dark.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I just think that a "cool" female stable is long overdue. Not this "all of the face versus the heels" type of thing we've been seeing for the last 5 years. Something that we can say "hey, don't need to have a piss break" when they show up on TV.

I do agree. Simply Flawless are *trying* to do that, I think -- but it's far too childish to really qualify. I definitely think that the women need something more distinctive to do. You seemingly only get a few characters over and over again when it comes to the ladies in the WWE. I'd definitely like to see that change.

[Johnny Vegas]

I don't know if you want to discuss other random gimmick repackaging and such here, but while watching SmackDown! this week, I had a really weird thought: I REALLY want Funaki to join The Straight-Edge Society. I don't even think he should join for the "drug free, alcohol free" thing; but just to "maximise his potential." CM Punk finds strength in numbers, and going after whatever minds he can could build up his ranks.

You just have CM Punk come out and cut a promo, talking about how he wants to save as many people as he can, and there is one man he wants to focus on tonight. He turns his attention to Funaki (who is in the back), and he says that he has lined up the production team to play Funaki's music, so he wants Funaki to do him the honour of coming out and hearing what he has to say. "Kung Fu Naki's" theme music hits, and Funaki comes out in dress clothes, looking a bit confused.

CM Punk cuts an epic promo about how Funaki was one of the most respected junior heavyweights in Japan when he came to the WWE, and he came over with such great hopes of conquering the west, but instead he has settled for a comfy paycheck. He ridicules Funaki for not being seen in months, and how he didn't even need to bring wrestling attire tonight because he knows he would not have been booked. Punk says that he is kept under contract because he is such a good competitor, and it'd be stupid to let him go, but Funaki himself has become complacement, and no longer strives to be anyone.

I dunno, that sort of shit. The idea is to break Funaki, and then get him angry at the WWE for "forgetting about him." Punk then offers Funaki a chance to be "reborn" under Straight-Edge, like Luke Gallows -- who was also going nowhere before he found Punk (cue Gallows taking off his cap and revealing his bald head). Funaki is then given the choice to join The Straight-Edge Society, and become relevant to the WWE Universe (ugh) again. Funaki accepts, as Todd Grisham and Matt Striker talk about how they have known Funaki as a fun loving guy for a long time, and Punk has altered that.

Funaki gets his head shaved, and there is a celebration by Serena and Gallows as Punk welcomes Funaki to a society that will not forget him and will not leave him behind. He says that Funaki needs to shed his past, so from now on he will be known as "Shoichi," to go back to a time before he was a joke. Punk reveals that they have had attire made up for him, and then give Funaki a new singlet with the SES logo on the front, and "Sho1chi" written on the side. His first assignment will be to "soften up" Rey Mysterio.

Shoichi can use CM Punk's entrance theme for his match against Mysterio, and he looks a little reluctant, even with his newly shaved head. He gets in the ring, and offers Rey his hand, as Matt Striker suggests that even though Shoichi is in The Straight-Edge Society, he remains the same respectful competitor at heart. Mysterio accepts the hand and the former Funaki cheap-shots him as Striker reverses himself "Whoa! Maybe not! I like this Shoichi!"

Shoichi starts the match off strong against Rey Mysterio, but Rey of course gets control, and manages to send Shoichi out of the ring with a tilt-a-whirl headscissors. What would normally be reluctance by an out-matched Funaki can be converted into cowardice, as Shoichi does not want to get back in the ring immediately with Mysterio. He eventually gets control of the match, however, when CM Punk gets involved, and we get the usual heel control as Matt Striker talks about the power Shoichi has been granted by joining the SES. Mysterio makes a second comeback, and is about to win the match when the SES pull some more funky shit, and out of nowhere Shoichi hits a Superkick on Mysterio and actually gets the pin.

Funaki can start using his Superkick and calling it the "Straight-Edge Superkick" or something corny like that. You can give it a proper name. Shoichi can become a sort of "translator" for CM Punk, as reading up on Funaki's Wikipedia page, it says that along with Japanese and English, Funaki is semi-fluent in French, German, Portugese and Spanish. You can shed Funaki's "funny English speaking" image, and let him cut promos echoing Punk's message in several different languages.

The idea would not be to make Funaki a World Champion, or anything. But it would take a guy who has been under contract for something like twelve years, repackage him, and give him a consistent role on SmackDown! as a credible heel. When the time comes for him to leave the Straight-Edge Society, as well, who knows -- Funaki could even get a nice face push from it, as he reveals himself to be "Shoichi Funaki," a complete person and neither too fun-loving nor too dark.

This is why you are the man of wrestling on TPWW, dude. This is what Funaki needs to do b/c he's not doing anything right now and having an Asian dude in any kliq spells A-W-E-S-O-M-E. lol i know that was corny, but great idea.

Yea, that was the point of this thread was to just talk about some gimmick repackaging for ANYONE who needs it or is lacking. I'll bring something to the table as soon as i get back from eating ham :cool:

[Mr. Nerfect]

Eating ham = much respect. :y:

I mean, I resign that some guys just aren't meant to be major players, but my philosophy is that if a guy is under contract -- use them. The WWE needs supporting players, as well. Hell, maybe Funaki could even get a brief (if not really epic) run with the Intercontinental Title under Punk? It's hard to imagine now, but guys have come out of nowhere with renewed pushes in the past. A new identity for Funaki would be the first step. It'd be a "thank you" to Funaki more than anything. I mean, Funaki should be thankful he has had such a long stint with the WWE -- but they'd be keeping him around for some reason. He's probably a great hand with the younger guys.

Some more repackaging ideas:

Ezekiel Jackson
I like Big Zeke enough, but I do not like him on his own. I appreciate that the WWE have tried to get him over as "The Last ECW Champion" and all that, but I think Zeke still has so much to learn that he would benefit by staying in the "Diesel" role to someone for a while. He was great with The Brian Kendrick, and was okay when he was with William Regal. Personally, I'd give him to Chris Jericho. Zeke could almost tie in the Biblical elements of his character to the story of Jericho -- I dunno, there's something there. Bring back the wise, deceptively calm and zen Zeke.

Eventually there is potential for a huge face turn down the road. Working with Chris Jericho is only going to make Jackson better, and when he has had enough of Jericho's shit, the fans will go nuts for him nailing Chris Jericho with "The Book of Ezekiel" (as Matt Striker calls it). You've then got an Ahmed Johnson-like face in Zeke.

This also minimalises the number of angry black men on SmackDown! (right now we have Shad and Zeke). I'd much rather Shad Gaspard play that role, and Ezekiel Jackson play a smarter, cooler character.

Curt Hawkins
People have seemingly forgotten this guy exists. It's a shame, because I always got the impression he was just a little bit better in the ring than Zack Ryder. Apparently he asked to go down to developmental for a bit, and has often been having the Match of the Night down in FCW. He's got a darker character now, almost like an emo-Hardy style thing going on. I'd love to see him sitting in the crowd during some of Zack Ryder's matches on Superstars and RAW.

This can go on for several weeks, and Ryder notices him at ringside, and eventually asks him what he is doing, and Hawkins then jumps the barricade and starts beating the crap out of Ryder. Hawkins starts to play an unpredictable sort of cross between early Edge and Raven -- as he broods and seems to have a grudge against Zack Ryder. Hawkins eventually reveals his motives "Zack Ryder forgot about me. He shouldn't have done that. Woo, woo, woo -- he knows it." Zack Ryder is all "Hey bro, I'm the bigger star; you are a nobody." Cue feud between the two.

If the fans aren't getting into Curt Hawkins as a reckless face -- you can always have Rosa Mendes turn on Zack Ryder, and reveal that this has been their plan all along -- make Ryder pay for betraying her boyfriend, Curt Hawkins. It would make an interesting mid-card feud at the very least. Given how young both guys are, and how good they both already are in the ring and on the mic -- they could become major stars.

Slam Master J
Change his name to "Jesse Gordy," and if they do go with this "Fortunate Sons" thing, have him be a part of that. Slam Master J could be a fun character, I guess -- but it's already making Ray Gordy look like a joke. He needs out before he loses all credibility for a long time (if he hasn't already).

[Johnny Vegas]

Definitely some good stuff right there. Definitely like the Hawkins/Ryder gig.

One of my favorite guys, John Morrison, is going to have to get new theme music. I mean i know he's going for the Jim Morrison thing, but the theme he has is just not doing it for me. I remember when theme music got you pumped for who was about to come out. Now some themes like Orton's, Cena's, Jericho's, etc are fine, but JoMo needs something else.

I think he needs some type of different look when he comes out. Maybe needs something like "Pour Some Sugar On Me" by Def Leppard (w/o the first 5 sec acapella). When the music blasts, shut out most of the lighting and just light up the ramp way. When he comes out, looks both right and left at the crowd, takes off his shades, then while walking, use the slow cam that he has. Have him get to the ring, stand in the middle of it, throw his one arm'd fist in the air and all four turnbuckles shoot off pyro. None of the "show off my abs" stuff anymore.

Oh yea, instead of the fur coat, maybe come out in a leather jacket, something like Michael Jackson's "Bad" video. And instead of the sunglasses that he has, use Aviators instead for the look. Just make him look a little more edgier so that guys our age can say "hey, i can dig this guy" and the kids go "man, that guy is cool. I want to have that look". Keep the same moves and same style of wrestling and taunts, because i enjoy his in-ring style.

If not feeling the Def Leppard, throw Matt Willis - Up All Night. I love the helicopter intro to that song. Makes it seem like "the man" is about to come to the ring.

[Mr. Nerfect]

A change of theme would do Morrison good. Even if they kept the one he currently has, and they make it heavier and get someone else to play it. I do like Morrison's entrances, but I think that he needs to cut out the smiling, for one. Even after WrestleMania where he got knocked out in like three minutes, he comes out grinning. He needs to quit giving his sunglasses to kids too. We get it, JoMo is a nice guy. Except, he's not meant to be -- he's meant to be cooler than all of us, and we're meant to accept that as fact.

I liked what he used to wear when he first started the John Morrison gimmick.

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He needs to get some of that arrogance back, and remind us that he is a portal to the infinite, and beyond all good and evil. Dress him up like he used to be, and he'll be fine. I do like the concept of a darker Morrison. Not too much darker, but just a little toned down on the "happy tones" we are meant to get when he comes out. Every time Morrison makes his entrance, it should feel like a dream. It should go beyond an entrance.

[Johnny Vegas]

Exactly. I know that he is supposed to be a face, but the WWE doesn't have to have all of the faces suck up to the fans and kids. Honestly, you have Cena for that. People that are 13 and up need Morrison to do exactly what you said: Go back to the cooler clothes, not smile as much lol, and just be a little edgier. I know that a lot of people on here resort to wrestlers having to be "edgier" and "darker" to get over with people, but its not for everyone but it IS for JoMo. I haven't watched SD! in a while, but JoMo (the nickname) needs to be used on a frequent basis, just like "The Rattlesnake" with SCSA.

OMG, could you see JoMo doing a heel turn on R-Truth (or Truth getting drafted to RAW) and joining the SES. He doesn't have to have his head shaved, he doesn't have to join the "traditional" way where Punk calls him out and gets in a fued with him, blah blah blah. Whoever Punk is fueding with at the time (would be great during a Mysterio/Punk fued b/c him (619) and JoMo have "respect" for each other ala the IC title) and it would work b/c of Punk and Morrison's past to be on 619's side, turn on him and join the SES. Morrison could definitely be the "im above you" person because he was just that about a year or so ago.

Then, maybe JoMo could be in the SES for a while, but then come off as being a little "better" than CM Punk because he wears cooler clothes, drives better cars, etc. This doesn't contradict Punk's "amendments" of the SES b/c JoMo isn't seduced by alcohol, drugs, etc. Punk then retaliates by saying "You are part of MY society, therefore, i am better than YOU".

They somehow win the tag team championships and during the matches, they try to be "better" lol than the other by out-performing the other in matches, don't tag a person in just yet, taunt the crowd to cheer for THEIR moves, etc. Then whoever is part of the SES turn on one of them (haven't decided yet lol), thus one of them being face and the other being the leader.

Hell, at that point, have the leader of the SES get into the head of a "commisioner" or GM of whatever brand and make sure that everything is "PG" or not part of America's "norm". Kind of like RTC lol. The SES could come out during Divas gimmick matches, interrupt guest hosts' "parties" that contain alcohol and whatnot. Just throwing that out there. :cool: