Call of Duty: Black Ops

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Call of Duty: Black Ops set for Nov. 9, 2010 (http://www.joystiq.com/2010/04/30/call-of-duty-black-ops-set-for-nov-9-2010/)

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Activision has unveiled the official website (http://www.callofduty.com/blackops/) for Call of Duty: Black Ops (http://www.xboxgaming.co.za/news/call-of-duty-black-ops-website-release-date-revealed/), the latest entry from the franchise's alternate developer, Treyarch (http://www.joystiq.com/tag/treyarch) (they're the ones you haven't been reading about as much these days). Aside from its title and what appears to be a release date -- November 9th, 2010 -- Black Ops remains enshrouded in mystery and somewhat superfluous (we're up to 16 cents!) smoke. Expect to see much more when GTTV reveals the first footage (http://www.joystiq.com/2010/04/28/next-call-of-duty-to-be-announced-on-gametrailers-tv-this-week/) later today.

[Via XboxGaming (http://www.xboxgaming.co.za/news/call-of-duty-black-ops-website-release-date-revealed/)]

[BillyBonez]

There is too many Call of Duty games, its becoming a whore game like street fighter was before they slowed down on it.

[RoXer]

I never thought you'd feel that way, G.

[G]

I will shake your foundation. I will shake the fucking rafters. Nobody'll be the same.

[The Mackem]

I will not stand for racism in the VG forum.

[Kalyx triaD]

Call of Duty returns this November, but this is a Call of Duty like no other, this is Black Ops.

Now you will witness the birth of the Elite Special Forces and take part in off-the-record missions using unconventional weaponry to get the job done! From Cuba to the Arctic and the jungles of Vietnam, Call of Duty: Black Ops features stunning cinematic graphics and intense gameplay that puts you right at the heart of the action!

[#BROKEN Hasney]

So what they really meant is, this is a Call of Duty exactly the same as the others, but with new backdrops.

Pass.

[Kalyx triaD]

Pretty sure that's been the case since The Big Red One.

[ClockShot]

I thought the new game was supposed to be set in 'Nam?

I think I'll pass this one up.

[Splaya]

Get ready for it. Was on Gamespot.com earlier and they announced that IW already has Modern Warfare 3 in production

[Kalyx triaD]

Pfft, who's making it? IW's janitor? Secretary?

[Emperor Smeat]

Supposedly last level is based on the Iranian Embassy Siege in 1980 and the farthest in time the game goes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_Embassy_Siege

[Vietnamese Crippler]

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[#BROKEN Hasney]

Get ready for it. Was on Gamespot.com earlier and they announced that IW already has Modern Warfare 3 in production

Also pass.

[Blitz]

Looks kinda fucking awesome.

[D Mac]

Yeah I'll probably buy.

[D Mac]

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Shows a couple of scenes from Nam. Looks fucking badass.

[Blitz]

Sticky explosive shooting crossbow? Yep. I'm in.

[Funky Fly]

Dunno. Looks cool, but Medal of Honor has my attention more.

[El Fangel]

Depends on whats going to be in the multiplayer for weaponary.

If its anything like MW2, I wouldnt spend over $20 to get the game due to the frustration factor.

[D Mac]

There had better be a beta.

[El Fangel]

There had better be actual fucking playtesting before they launch the game.

[Kalyx triaD]

Treyarch is more down to earth than IW.

[El Fangel]

If I hear of One Man Army, Thermal, Juggernaut/Painkiller, Heartbeat Sensor, Danger Close, MLC Knifers I am not touching this game.

[Kalyx triaD]

I think you would...........................................

[El Fangel]

I wouldnt pay $70 for a game that frustrates me to the point that MW2 has and continues to do at some points.

Give me real guns, with real scopes and real equipment and I am happy.

As for killstreaks, def need to take some out and nerf the gunner.

[Kalyx triaD]

Why do you not play Bad Company 2?

[El Fangel]

Snipers can't go prone. Ill pass

[CSL]

lol fucking hell

[Kalyx triaD]

Good show, Treyarch, you have my attention.

[D Mac]

Snipers can't go prone. Ill pass

ZOMG! That kills it all to hell! :p

[LoDownM]

lol "real guns" every gun in MW2 is real.

[El Fangel]

ZOMG! That kills it all to hell! :p

For me yes.

lol "real guns" every gun in MW2 is real.

If you couldnt tell Ididnt want just a shooter without all the bullshit like Thermal, HBS and the such you are an idiot.

[Kalyx triaD]

I was under the impression you liked MW2, FAngel. I have all manner of complaints about the game (series) but you seemed alright with it.

[alvarado52]

oh you know FA...he bitches to hell and high water about MW2, but plays it religiously, changed his gamertag to form a clan for it, etc etc.

He will buy this, then complain, and still play it.

Also, this game looks pretty sweet, and i wanna see where they take single player. When MW2 was announced, i was more excited about the continuation of the single player over multi.

[LoDownM]

I had this huge post typed out, but fuck it. Just gonna say, FA would probably burn his card deck if he didn't win at solitaire. Seriously dude, don't like the game, sell it and go buy some ice cream to wallow in.

[D Mac]

For me yes.





Sorry man but that's just plain stupid.

[Kalyx triaD]

Dice's big gamble that prone was hurting gameplay experience and was thus nixed in Battlefield proved successful, imo. You hardly notice it and when you do think about it, you have nothing but joy-joy feelings inside yourself. Fuck prone.

[alvarado52]

if you even played BC or BC2, you'll realize that prone is not important. There's enough f'n snipers in that game online without prone, and the maps are big and diverse enough that sniping 'spots' are anything but a guarantee visual check list

[Kalyx triaD]

A true sniper would want it, but a true competitive gamer would want the added balance.

[El Fangel]

I spend probably 90% of my time using the barrett. Not being able to lay down would really mess with how I usually snipe.

Not,saying the game is bad but lack of prone would def hinder my playstyle.

As for this one, honestly, no painkiller or hbs and I would be ok with it.

[Kalyx triaD]

A true sniper would want it, but a true competitive gamer would want the added balance.

[El Fangel]

I already read that.

That's like saying someone using an lmg shouldn't be able to move with it for balance reasons.

[Kalyx triaD]

If that really balanced things then yes, that would be correct. You're still playing a videogame here, and competitive games must account for things like balance. Some things that please the majority usually piss off a minority, but it almost always works out.

Lots of drama in Halo: Reach and MvC3 forums over this very subject.

[El Fangel]

Its going to make everyone happy except the people who use it a lot.

Like you said.

[Kalyx triaD]

They're gonna have to deal. I'm sure you'll manage.

[El Fangel]

Oh I will just play RDR until this comes up and bypass BC2.

[Kalyx triaD]

Eh

[Kalyx triaD]

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[D Mac]

awesome

[Kalyx triaD]

I might play this once or twice. Or thrice...

[alvarado52]

Ah fuck me...they better not have commando in this shit, because the last thing those cheap fucks need is a projectile knife.

[Johnny McNasty]

Just now catching up with all the news and rumors for this game. Loving a lot of what I've heard and seen. Do think snipers not being allowed to go prone is stupid, but that trailer looks awesome. Will probably be picking this up when it drops.

[El Fangel]

An RC Car? That would be fun

Also, shows something of a video camera which would be awesome as an extra set of eyes for a sniper.

[Blitz]

Fucking hell. Glorious.

[Johnny McNasty]

Also the very end of the trailer was probably the best part. Being able to make and edit replays like Halo is a huge selling point for me. I hope you can send them in messages to people too.

[El Fangel]

Yeah, I have been wanting a killcam editor.

Would love that shit.

[D Mac]

Ah fuck me...they better not have commando in this shit, because the last thing those cheap fucks need is a projectile knife.

Looks like you can have dual knives. Yeah Commando/Marathon/Lightweight would suck on that shit.

[D Mac]

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IGN Rewind takes us through that reveal vid. And explains shit and shows us shit we may have missed.

[Blitz]

Looks like you can have dual knives. Yeah Commando/Marathon/Lightweight would suck on that shit.
How would having 2 knives possibly make a difference.

[Emperor Smeat]

Looks like Zombie Mode going to be added to Black Ops since it was one of Treyarch's most popular features they ever created.

http://kotaku.com/5612028/zombies-return-to-call-of-duty

[El Fangel]

How would having 2 knives possibly make a difference.

Ever miss on your first stab and get a shotgun to the face?

[G]

I know it's long, but it's a good read. So man the fuck up


Activision revealed the Call of Duty: Black Ops (http://joystiq.com/game/call-of-duty-black-ops) multiplayer component at an event this evening in Los Angeles. We'll have a full preview later on, but first we'll just run you through the various features that Treyarch is adding to the latest iteration of Call of Duty.

Producers Dan Bunting and David Vanderhaar took the stage at the LA Coliseum to talk three pillars for the new CoD multiplayer game: "Compete, customize and create." Competition was the first element -- beyond the standard Call of Duty multiplayer elements, Treyarch has added a whole new mode called Combat Training, which brings AI opponents to the mix. Yes, bots have arrived in Call of Duty.

Combat Training is a mode with its own ranking completely separate from any multiplayer play -- Treyarch found that 30 to 40 percent of single player gamers had never once tried multiplayer, and the mode is an attempt to "introduce the Call of Duty game to an entirely new set of players who we feel are missing out," said Vanderhaar. The mode has its origins in a dummy the team created named Larry, who originally just stood in the field and reported back on damage received to the programmers. But when even the devs wanted Larry to be a little more active, they eventually developed the mode into a full package.

Combat Training allows you to play either by yourself or with friends -- we'll give it a look later this evening and let you know what kind of challenge Black Ops' AI bots will offer.

Treyarch also plans to divert from the series tradition of set unlocks by introducing a currency to the multiplayer game, called CP or "CoD points." Everything in the game has a set CP price (or XP level limit) attached to it, so if there's a specific killstreak or weapon you'd like to unlock, you can save up and buy it at the first chance instead of simply waiting for it to open up. Perks have an effect on how you look in the game -- choosing Scavenger outfits your character with lots of pouches on your armor, while Ghost puts you into a gilly suit. Other players can see that customization as well, so opponents can tell with a glance what perks you've got equipped. Guns can be customized even further than before, and emblems can be created and attached to guns.

Additionally, gear has been narrowed down into three categories: lethal throwables (like frag grenades) will always be used with the right bumper, and tactical throwables will appear on the left bumper. The last category is "equipment," and this consists of all the other gear Treyarch has thrown into the game, from the usual claymores and motion sensors to new gadgets like a camera spike. New weapons have been added in to care packages as well -- Treyarch showed off a gigantic gatling gun, a special RPG, a napalm strike, a remotely controlled bomb, an offsite mortar team, and a moveable SAM turret that targeted any aircraft in the area.

Currency, said Treyarch, is useless unless you can gamble with it, so Treyarch has created four new multiplayer modes that revolve around gambling CP, called Wager Matches. In these matches, only the top three players get paid at the end of the match, and everyone else loses their ante CP. "One in the Chamber" pits players against each other armed with just one pistol and a bullet -- killing someone else earns you an extra bullet, but missing leaves you with just a knife. "Sticks and Stones" gives everyone a tomahawk and a crossbow, and hitting an opponent with a tomahawk automatically bankrupts them. "Gun Game" has players progressing through the various gun tiers -- a kill moves you up to a stronger weapon, but dying drops you back down. And "Sharp Shooter" gives everyone a series of random weapons, with everyone switching to the next random after a certain point.

Treyarch has also implemented "Contracts," which players can buy with CP, and then pay off when certain criteria are met in the game within a certain time limit. Promise to kill 50 players in a certain amount of matches, and achieving the goal will pay back more CP, but failing will lose what you paid in the first place.

Finally, Treyarch also created the ability to record and playback matches during development, so they've added a video recording system into the game. Players can save, share, and browse recorded videos -- the system doesn't look quite as in-depth as what Bungie's put together in the past (http://www.joystiq.com/2009/07/08/a-look-at-bungie-pro-video-for-halo-3/), but we'll have to see it in action.

The featurelist for Black Ops' multiplayer is quite impressive, obviously. It remains to be seen if features like the Wager Matches will be widely adopted, but we'll get our hands on the game and let you know what we think.

[Kalyx triaD]

Show 'em the gambling mode video, G.

[Fignuts]

Hooray, I can sit there and count how many pouches a guy has, while he shoots me in the face.

[Blitz]

Damn sounds kinda addictive.

[Fignuts]

Suck at these games, so I will never gamble anything prolly.

[D Mac]

Beta this month please.

[D Mac]

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[LoDownM]

a tomahawk? fucking want.

[Johnny McNasty]

Four different types of free for all...Sold. Like the sound of the wager system too.

[Johnny McNasty]

All kinds of new information has been released this last week.

Here is some new multiplayer gameplay footage.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yufHjEZdeA

Another video showing some more gameplay footage. Note: Undermount flamethrower holy shit!

http://g4tv.com/videos/48466/Call-of-Duty-Black-Ops-Multiplayer-Maps/?quality=hd

Here is an article talking about the Combat Training game mode, and other details. Note: At the bottom of the article they mention some details about theater mode, and how it can be used to combat in tom foolery.(boosters, hackers, cheaters, etc...)

http://www.joystiq.com/2010/09/03/call-of-duty-black-ops-multiplayer-takes-aim-at-cheaters/#continued

This is a list of supposed camos for the Black ops. Source may be shady, but looks legit.

http://www.morganjeast.com/2010/09/camouflages.html

List of Perks for Black Ops. Note: This last website also contains a list and description of all the kill streaks, and all confirmed weapons.

http://www.cod7blackops.com/perks/

[Requiem]

Looks like it has a different 'feel' to it than MW2, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. Actually kinda looking forward to this. The wager modes look fun as hell.

[Fignuts]

Kalyx, how does prone affect balance?

[Fignuts]

Also, loving that this has bot support. Definitely something more console games need to take part part in.

Mainly it gives you a chance to learn the maps and weapons at your own pace and level. Secondly, (and more important to me) it lets you play regular size games locally, without your friends bitching to play something else because they're getting utterly annihilated.

[Blitz]

Intriguing that there seems to be no Stopping Power perk.

[Fignuts]

Also, if nuke or anything like it is in, I'll finally get to use it.

[Fignuts]

Hacker pro is pretty cool.

[Blitz]

I wish there was more variety in perks. I'm getting sick of seeing the same ones in every game. If that list is legit and complete, there's what, one new perk (Tac mask). Yeah some of the pro features will be new probably, but still, one or two brand new wouldn't hurt.

The killstreaks look pretty good, on the other hand. The Blackbird in particular is one I'm definitely loading out with.

[Fignuts]

I'm happy that dogs are back

[Blitz]

And I'm happy they're a fucking 11 killstreak instead of 7.

[Fignuts]

I would say that's a bad thing, but since they kill in one bite now, yeah.

I just know that I got killed a lot more from attack choppers in COD4 than I ever did from dogs. Actually liked it when dogs got called in, cause I could hole up, and pick them off, and get about 9+ XP from it.

[Kalyx triaD]

Kalyx, how does prone affect balance?

Excuse me?

[Johnny McNasty]

Also like that stopping power has been removed completely. It will allow for more diverse setups than the previous games, as I constantly had to equip stopping power whenever playing core game modes.

The potential combination of ghost/scout/ninja for sniping is pretty sweet. Also being able to combo scavenger/sleight of hand or warlord/ninja or marathon sound absolutely beastly.

Wonder what the pro of Hardline will be since there is no death streaks.

[El Fangel]

Needs moar Dragunov

[Blitz]

It's in the game, man.

[D Mac]

Thank god Commando and One Man Army is out.

[El Fangel]

Wooooooooooo

Hbs?
Thermal?
Commando?

I hear if ya have. Marathon it won't you take lightweight.

[D Mac]

Minor thing but I love the new Challenge Complete guitar riff.

[Blitz]

Wooooooooooo

Hbs?
Thermal?
Commando?

I hear if ya have. Marathon it won't you take lightweight.
I'm confident you'll find a whole new set of things to bitch about constantly.

[Fignuts]

Excuse me?

Everyone can do it, right from the start. Dunno, I just never had a problem with it. Yeah it's harder to hit them if they are waiting for you, prone in a hallway or something, but the tradeoff is you can barely move, and if someone gets the drop on you, you have 0 chance of coming out on top.

[Fignuts]

Like, seriously never knew anyone ever even bitched about prone being in a game.

[Kalyx triaD]

It's well known how prone affects gameplay which is why Dice cut it out. Then you have drop-shooting in certain games and how uber-powerful it is in maps of particular designs under certain game modes.

I have no stats on the matter but I've personally observed more issues based on prone in-game than grips about prone's exclusion. It just makes for a better experience, imo.

Most likely prone is in Black Ops and MW2 had bigger problems than people laying down so it's hardly something worth going on about.

[Fignuts]

Drop shooting doesn't work in COD, because it's not particularly fast like it is in Battlefield 2. You are likely to get pegged in the head on the way down.

[El Fangel]

I'm confident you'll find a whole new set of things to bitch about constantly.

I'm sure I will, if like MW2 they have several game alterring glitches and bullshit.

Ill list a few things about MW2 that I hope aren't in Black Ops

Thermal
HBS
Commando + Tac Knife
Infinite Noobtubes
infinite Carepackage
Care Package 2x Speed
Nukes
Javelindom
Deadspawn (Where you spawn next to where you died)

I am pretty sure 99% of people in this thread wouldn't shed a tear if they never saw any of the above again.

Also, I would love for once to see a fucking legit leaderboard.

[Kalyx triaD]

Yeah it does work in that game.

[El Fangel]

Until some cockmunching fag hacks it.

[Kalyx triaD]

Talking about drop shots, but yeah to your post anyway.

Hackers are the cancer.

[El Fangel]

I mean it would be cool to brag about being the top ranked player instead of looking and seeing all the losers who are number #1-1000 with 1337.0 k/d ratios

[Fignuts]

Dunno, if drop shooting worked well in cod, you'd think you wou;d see it more often. As it stands, I've seen it only a handful of times, between COD4, and MW2. And I came out on top in almost all those encounters. So I don't really know where you're getting this. Especially considering you've barely played the games.

[El Fangel]

Yeah, I play this game more then anyone here and I rarely ever come across drop shooters. I usually kill them easily as I tend to aim center mass and hit their head on the way down.

[Fignuts]

I win, Kalyx.

FLAWLESS VICTORY

[Kalyx triaD]

I'll be back and you'll be sorry.

[Fignuts]

It is, however, pretty annoying in Battlefield 2, so I can see where you are coming from at least.

[Kalyx triaD]

You'll still sample my vengeance.

[D Mac]

It's ok Icebox, you can go prone in this. In fact, you can dive into prone from a standing position.

[alvarado52]

enough about all this, who's getting Medal of Honor!?

[Fignuts]

I will try it, but I'm way more psyched for this. When does MOH come out anyway?

[Fignuts]

Also, what's a good sensitivity to play COD on? I've never even messed with it.

[alvarado52]

Comes out next month. Its a good combo between BF (play mechanics) and CoD (smaller maps, faster pacing).

As for sensitivity, i stick with medium to med-high (custom)

[Fignuts]

Probably won't get it. Between now and November, I'll only have enough money for 3 games, and it's going to be Halo Reach, Fifa 11/Winning Eleven 11, and Smackdown 2011.

I MIGHT have enough for one more. If I do, it will probably be Black ops, unless MOH gets ridiculous reviews.

[D Mac]

Rock Band 3? Surely that over stupid soccer.

[D Mac]

enough about all this, who's getting Medal of Honor!?

Nope.

[Fignuts]

Metallica sucks.


Nah, but I've got almost all the music games, and between them all, and DLC, have over 1,000 songs. I don't need to get a new one on release. I'll only be struggling for about 2 months until my knee gets healthy enough to work again. I'll get Rockband then.

[D Mac]

Also, Fallout New Vegas > Halo

[Fignuts]

I am mainly getting Halo for multiplayer. All my singleplayer time is being sunk into dragon age, and all the other games I've barely started. I have a huge backlog right now, as far as singleplayer is concerned, and another sp game won't solve that. Also, I'm pretty burned out on Fallout.

[Kalyx triaD]

Me and my bro had a pow-wow and we're gonna gloss over MoH. Gonna make Black Ops the realistic shooter of choice until the Battlefield 3 beta comes around then I'll snag a copy of MoH.

Until then Reach and Naruto UNS2.

[Fignuts]

Yeah, somewhat dissapointed I won't be getting Naruto, but I'm sure once the novelty of those amazing visuals wear off, I'll get bored with it fairly quick. So it's not a huge letdown.

[alvarado52]

Me and my bro had a pow-wow and we're gonna gloss over MoH. Gonna make Black Ops the realistic shooter of choice until the Battlefield 3 beta comes around then I'll snag a copy of MoH.

Until then Reach and Naruto UNS2.

Then its official: Medal of Honor will be awesome.

Sorry Kalyx, but the pony you've placed your money on lately have been real stinkers.

And it's amazing how youre gonna pass on MoH, which Dice/Battlefield created multiplayer on, for CoD, which you shunned for Battlefield.

[Kalyx triaD]

The fate's are funny like that.

[Blitz]

So I got an email from Xbox saying "Call of Duty®: Black Ops™,² is locked and loaded for Sept 11, 2010". Odd. Another reveal or something?

[El Fangel]

Did it give you a link to click? I got one today saying I won 500k m$ points.

[Blitz]

There was a link to xbox.com, which just took me to the Black Ops page on there, where the release date is listed as September 11, 2010. Dunno.

[Funky Fly]

Did it give you a link to click? I got one today saying I won 500k m$ points.

500 thousand points? FUCK!

[D Mac]

500 thousand points? FUCK!

Yeah he clicks it and it transfers him to some porn website with a virus or some shit.

[D Mac]

Anyways,

This >>>>>>>>>>>>>>MOH

[El Fangel]

Yeah, the website in the url was something like xboxliveus.contest.con or some fake looking shit.

[Funky Fly]

Where are they getting your info?

[El Fangel]

No idea, I get constant spam from xboxlive and blizzard fakes

[alvarado52]

The fate's are funny like that.

Fuck you fagget!

[Emperor Smeat]

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Developer interview about the game during PAX 10.

Nothing new was revealed but the Wager system gets explained a little bit more and how kill streaks are related to character appearances in multiplayer.

[Swiss Ultimate]

So I got an email from Xbox saying "Call of Duty®: Black Ops™,² is locked and loaded for Sept 11, 2010". Odd. Another reveal or something?

Crazy date.

[Emperor Smeat]

In terms of Co-Op modes available, Treyarch confirms no Campaign Co-Op mode for Black Ops. Local Co-op so far just includes split-screen combat training and multiplayer.

Treyarch did announce there was more modes to be announced at a later date.

http://gamrfeed.vgchartz.com/story/81984/no-campaign-co-op-for-black-ops/

[G]

zombies i want zombies

[D Mac]

Pretty sure I read a while back zombies would be in. Unless they changed it.

[El Fangel]

I just heard from my cousin who watched a video for this game, he saw a thermal scope.

Jesus Christ, why...

[Blitz]

Shit, now the game is ruined. And it was so close to maybe being good, too.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

I heard if you go prone, your killstreak gets wiped out.

Great news :y:

[El Fangel]

I should just go back to CoD4

[LoDownM]

Thermal Scope isn't even that big of a deal ffs :roll:

[El Fangel]

It annoys me as it's the most skillless thing you can do save spamming nades.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Well, which would you prefer? Thermal scope or going prone?

It's been blatantly obvious to most players that snipers need balancing and one of those 2 would help. Hell, thermal scope might just be a killstreak and not something many people use anyway.

[alvarado52]

i dunno, ive kinda gone easy on the thermal scope hating. I suck at sniping, so i use a thermal when i need to pick someone off, but i dont think the thermal has made me a better sniper by any means.

I still think if you can snipe, you can snipe, no matter what the attachment. If not, well then youll still suck at it.

[D Mac]

Found this on the Black Ops site in FAQ:

Q: Will there be/Is there a beta?
A: No, unfortunately there will be no public beta. Treyarch has confirmed that they are only doing an internal beta for Activision/Treyarch employees and guests


:(

[D Mac]

What are your thoughts on this.

[Kalyx triaD]

Pretty sure this will still be better built than MW2.

[LoDownM]

Not that big of a deal imo. Long as they fix bugs faster than IW did.

[D Mac]

Sucks tho that you can't try it out a little early. Good things come to those that wait I guess.

[El Fangel]

i dunno, ive kinda gone easy on the thermal scope hating. I suck at sniping, so i use a thermal when i need to pick someone off, but i dont think the thermal has made me a better sniper by any means.

I still think if you can snipe, you can snipe, no matter what the attachment. If not, well then youll still suck at it.

If by now you arent a journeyman sniper in MW2, you must be avoiding Sniper Rifles like the plague.

I suck terribly with the Intervention but started using it recently and am doing as good as I normally do with snipers.

Also, tossed a Silencer and ACOG on a WA2000 and the thing is fucking beastly. Might leave that setup alone for awhile.

What are your thoughts on this.

Long as they fix bugs faster than IW did.

[Blitz]

Picked this up again in prep for Black Ops and maybe MOH. Forgot how fun it is.

Been racking kills with the MP5k lately, usually suck with it.

[D Mac]

You picked up Black Ops in prep for Black Ops?

[El Fangel]

Im guessing he meant CoD4

[alvarado52]

Pretty sure this will still be better built than MW2.

Yknow, maybe im remembering wrong, but i thought you had a hard on for IW and frowned upon Treyarch.

Also, no shit its gonna be built better...its not like they arent gonna take the previous build and improve on it.

What are your thoughts on this.

Well, public betas always are the better option since so many people will play, and there are alot of asses out there who will try to find a way to cheat.

But it really does come down to how quickly they can respond. Any game, no matter how public the beta, will eventually show some cracks.

[Blitz]

Im guessing he meant CoD4
MW2 actually. Posted in wrong thread.

[Kalyx triaD]

Yknow, maybe im remembering wrong, but i thought you had a hard on for IW and frowned upon Treyarch.

Completely fucking backwards. Read all past quotes on the matter.

Or rather, point me to any posts that made you think that. I've been extremely vocal about how IW put together MW2. I can't imagine how you mixed this up, but you've been doing that a bit lately.

[G]

Who is getting this for PS3. Splaya, Savior and LoDown I'm guessing. I'm going to need buddies to play with. Well I bet nobody plays hs&d so I will probably be on my own.

[D Mac]

Nope, 360

[RoXer]

Who is getting this for PS3. Splaya, Savior and LoDown I'm guessing. I'm going to need buddies to play with. Well I bet nobody plays hs&d so I will probably be on my own.


what a joker

[G]

dark times are coming

[RoXer]

no they arent

[LoDownM]

Who is getting this for PS3. Splaya, Savior and LoDown I'm guessing. I'm going to need buddies to play with. Well I bet nobody plays hs&d so I will probably be on my own.


I only do Merc TDM really. And the same thing will happen that happened with 4/WaW/MW2, play it for a few months and get bored because I don't feel like doing prestige a 2nd time.

[Funky Fly]

Why get it for PS3? Does it have some kind of bonus shit exclusive to it?

[Fignuts]

Better community, probably.

[RoXer]

He's not getting it for PS3

[Fignuts]

I remember being better than vagsand at COD4.

[alvarado52]

What the fucks a PS3?

[Funky Fly]

PS Triple

[Funky Fly]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=me58PzfEwwA

Who disables embedding? Honestly

[D Mac]

It's still the best Blu Ray player around.

[G]

Why get it for PS3? Does it have some kind of bonus shit exclusive to it?

its ps3 or nothing at all

He's not getting it for PS3

dark times

I remember being better than vagsand at COD4.

i don't doubt it. i am horrible at tdm, but i was a monster at hs&d. check my stats for the game for proof

What the fucks a PS3?

you can't be serious

[Emperor Smeat]

Zombie mode confirmed to be in Black Ops.

The game itself doesn't take place in World War II but the mode itself contains Nazi Zombies.

http://kotaku.com/5649139/call-of-duty-black-ops-welcomes-back-nazi-zombie-hordes

[Fignuts]

They better have matchmaking this time. Why they had matchmaking for co-op, but not zombies in WaW, is beyond me.

[Blitz]

I must be the only COD player on Earth who did not care for Nazi Zombies even a little bit.

[Fignuts]

Did you play it by yourself? It's a lot more fun with other people.

[Blitz]

Yeah actually, never did the co-op.

[D Mac]

Yeah zombies was meant for 2 or more.

[Emperor Smeat]

Achievement list for the Xbox 360 version was released and it basically spoils a lot of the story and unannounced game modes.

Hong Kong missions confirmed, Wager Mode unlocks "Gamblin' Fool" achievement, and a new mode called Dead Ops Arcade

http://kotaku.com/5652479/call-of-duty-black-ops-achievement-leak-is-spoiler-city

[RoXer]

Call of Duty: Black Ops Goes 3D and Gets Bot Support
Both new features will be available on every platform.


The three-dimensional craze isn't going to stop any time soon as Activision announced that Call of Duty: Black Ops will be 3D compatible on every system (Xbox 360, PS3 and PC with the proper NVIDIA chipset) when it launches on November 9.

I got the chance to swing by the W Hotel in San Francisco last week to check out Black Ops in 3D. While I'm not a huge fan of having to wear glasses to get the 3D effect, there's no denying that Call of Duty uses the technology as well as any other game I've seen.

An Activision representative showed me two campaign levels in full 3D glory: WMD (a level that we've been seeing since E3) and Numbers (something brand new). If you haven't seen WMD, then you probably haven't seen much from Black Ops at all. It features the SR-71 spy plane and a bit of recon elements as you direct troops from above, but the benefits of 3D didn't make themselves known until later in the level when the player-controlled character landed on the ground. There were two instances that really wowed me when it came to showcasing 3D. The first was when the scoped crossbow made its first appearance. The effect of the scope was so awesomely pronounced that I felt like I could actually look see inside of it when the gun was in the standard "fire from the hip" position. The glass was noticeably recessed from the metal encasing of the scope and the depth was a cool showcase.


The other instance occurred during explosions. Particle effects really do jump off the screen given the right situation. Sparks and bits of shrapnel looked great in my time with the game and given how many explosions there are throughout any Call of Duty game, I'd say that's a pretty important effect to get right. Thankfully Treyarch seems to have done exactly that.

Now, I could go into a lot of detail about the new level called Numbers, but I won't. I don't want to spoil any of the story for you diehard fans out there. So instead what I'll do is give you a teaser of the tone that Black Ops is trying to set. The beginning of Numbers opens with an interrogation. More accurately, it begins with a player-controlled interrogation. As you beat on your prisoner trying to pry information out of him, your character notices a glass window to his left. An on-screen prompt appears so you can interact with the panes, which I immediately assumed would allow your character to smash the prisoner's head through the glass. Not so. Instead, pressing the left trigger allows your character to punch the glass himself and remove a single shard. "Maybe he's going to cut the captured soldier ever-so-slowly", I thought. No, instead he inserts the shard into the poor bastard's mouth and proceeds to bludgeon either side of his face as the razor sharp object slices the inside of his mouth causing him to shriek in pain. It was gruesomely awesome and set the stage nicely for the rest of Black Ops' intensity.

Finally, I was shown a mode called Combat Training. Essentially it allows you to build your multiplayer experience points without heading to the rigors of true online play. Combat Training employs bots rather than real people as your competition and allows you to tweak the AI of the opposition. Having trouble prestiging for the third time? Hop into Combat Training, set the AI to easy and go on as many killing sprees as possible. Oh, and in case you're wondering, Combat Training (along with every other mode in Black Ops) runs just fine in three dimensions.

The few detractors I found with the 3D visuals had to with the overall quality of the images on-screen. Since images need to be rendered twice when you have 3D turned on (you can turn it on or off at any time during gameplay) the developers at Treyarch had to scale the visuals back a bit in terms of overall quality. Thankfully the framerate was always sturdy despite the almost constant frenetic action. The other downside to the 3D capability was that some background images seem to distort to looking like the screen sans glasses (despite them being firmly affixed to my face), but that will hopefully be remedied by the time Call of Duty: Black Ops hits shelves.

Call of Duty: Black Ops was my first experience playing a AAA title using the 3D capabilities of an Xbox 360. I saw no qualitative differences in comparison to the PlayStation 3's 3D abilities, but neither a PS3 nor a properly-equipped PC were available for my demo. Call of Duty: Black Ops launches on November 9 for Xbox 360, PlayStation 3 and PC. Stay tuned to IGN for move coverage leading up to launch.

[G]

Finally, I was shown a mode called Combat Training. Essentially it allows you to build your multiplayer experience points without heading to the rigors of true online play. Combat Training employs bots rather than real people as your competition and allows you to tweak the AI of the opposition. Having trouble prestiging for the third time? Hop into Combat Training, set the AI to easy and go on as many killing sprees as possible. Oh, and in case you're wondering, Combat Training (along with every other mode in Black Ops) runs just fine in three dimensions.



that'll make it much easier to make it through the early ranks with the shit weapons

[Kalyx triaD]

Essentially it allows you to build your multiplayer experience points without heading to the rigors of true online play.

That is one of the most homosexually noob allowances I have ever seen in a game.

[LoDownM]

Love the bot idea. Hopefully you can set it so if you do TDM you can have 11 bots going. Also going to be good for whenever your internet might be out.

[Fignuts]

that'll make it much easier to make it through the early ranks with the shit weapons

That is one of the most homosexually noob allowances I have ever seen in a game.

The bot thing is old news, and if I'm not mistaken, the offline content levels up seperately from online.

[Kalyx triaD]

CoD had separate offline leveling before, it wouldn't be worth mentioning unless Vs Bots did give you Vs People awards.

I'm hoping that isn't the case.

[El Fangel]

Sweet jesus, if that is the case who sees people abusing that up the ying yang and having 10/70s within the first day.

[RoXer]

It'll be similar to Vegas I assume

[RoXer]

And if not maybe people will realize how unimportant 10th prestige is in the grand scheme of things. A few more classes is all you get.

[Kalyx triaD]

If they wanted to use a persistent character system there are more elegant ways than that.

And fuck prestige. Never understood the big deal.

[G]

I was perfectly fine sitting at 70 with all of my shit unlocked and ready to go when I wanted to use it.

[D Mac]

So do you need a 3D TV for this to get the 3D?

[Vietnamese Crippler]

Pretty sure that's a yes.

[G]

extremely stupid, but come on



http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e67/brogan1234/207nuch.jpg

[D Mac]

lol

[G]

do we know how many map packs will be out. we knew only 2 for mw2 before it was released

[Vietnamese Crippler]

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[Blitz]

As is wont to happen, the game is leaked. Videos springing up online. Here's one of TDM. Enjoy before Activision pulls it.

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[LoDownM]

"Death Machine" outstanding.

[G]

back on amazon with a $20 credit

[RoXer]

Pre ordered mine for $25

[Blitz]

Anyone else getting it at midnight?

[Kalyx triaD]

Holy shit at the characters you play as for the zombie mode. You will not see this coming.

[G]

Care to enlighten us

[Kalyx triaD]

Richard Nixon, Fidel Castro, Robert McNamara, and JF fucking K!

[G]

lol

[Kalyx triaD]

And 'the Cuban' has a cigar.

[D Mac]

I thought it didn't come out till the 9th.

[Vietnamese Crippler]

It does.

[El Fangel]

Call me retarded for this statement, but seriously considering not buying this if I don't like the sniper rifle selection.

[Blitz]

http://blackops.digitalwarfare247.com/weapons/sniper-rifles

[Blitz]

And what exactly does Fallen Angel look for in a virtual sniper rifle?

[El Fangel]

The Dragunov specifically.

And I see its there:love:

Barrett isn't though.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

It's out on the net. Not gonna waste the bandwidth though.

[LoDownM]

No M21 :'(

[El Fangel]

Because of this alone, I am picking up the game

http://blackops.digitalwarfare247.com/weapons/equipment/motion-sensor

[El Fangel]

Im looking over the stuff in this game, only things that irk me

-Infrared Scope
- No ACR
- No RPD
- No Barrett :(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(

Thats that make me happy
- Warlord
- No commando

[LoDownM]

Already got my main perk set up figured out, Scavenger, Warlord and Ninja. Of course if the Motion Sensor turns out to be completely retarded ala HBS, Ghost instead of Warlord.

[El Fangel]

I am so happy that they have Motion Sensor.

[RoXer]

Fucking cry about it

[G]

i think roxer is upset that the rpd is gone

[RoXer]

It is?!?!?

[RoXer]

More importantly, what about riot shields?

[G]

wtf tho at marathon and ninja in the same slot. fucking end my life over that

[G]

It is?!?!?


it's only 4 posts up :roll:

[G]

omggggg no p90 :foc:

[Emperor Smeat]

Im looking over the stuff in this game, only things that irk me

-Infrared Scope
- No ACR
- No RPD
- No Barrett :(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(

Thats that make me happy
- Warlord
- No commando

The ACR and Barrett were made or didn't go into combat use until after the time period for the game. Same would be true of the p90 and a few other weapons from the Modern Warfare series.

I think Treyarch said the game is mostly Cold War era that could go up to the 1st Iraq War but no farther than that.

[RoXer]

Love the idea of the decoy grenade. Hope that pans out well.

[RoXer]

Hacker looks interesting too

[G]

Don't want to embed it, because the first part is the ending of the game, but skip to like 4 minutes for some zombie footage.

http://www.joystiq.com/2010/11/01/beat-black-ops-and-unlock-something-pretty-special/

[alvarado52]

Trying to decide if I should play this bad boy offline for the next week while I wait for my retail copy from amazon

[El Fangel]

The ACR and Barrett were made or didn't go into combat use until after the time period for the game. Same would be true of the p90 and a few other weapons from the Modern Warfare series.

I think Treyarch said the game is mostly Cold War era that could go up to the 1st Iraq War but no farther than that.

Infrared Scopes were readily available however.

[Blitz]

They were, actually. The first infrared scopes were around at the end of WWII. Wide use of them started during Vietnam.

[El Fangel]

Wow, I stand corrected and still annoyed.

[Blitz]

One hour MP walkthrough (http://blackops.digitalwarfare247.com/news/gamespot-mp-walkthrough)

[alvarado52]

Ugh, this game can be frustrating as shit on Vet. On the other hand, ive been checking out the perks, and im already liking some.

They made Ninja Pro be a combo of Ninja and SitRep pro, which is something i always wanted.

And Hacker Pro seems fuckin' pimp.

[Funky Fly]

How do you have it already?

[RoXer]

illEAGALY

[El Fangel]

Really liking second chance pro here.

[alvarado52]

illEAGALY

This. Also, i bitched in the alt-forum, but ill bitch here too. Fuck this game on veteran. Who the fuck puts infinite respawns in a game nowadays in a FPS? Thats not upping the difficulty, that shits just lazy.

Been playing offline with my lady, testing out all the perks and guns. Pretty impressive stuff, but some of these perks are useless.

I forget the name off the top of my head, but the pro version of it allows you to change care package contents.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Is there a perk that declares world peace, which ends the game in a draw and brings colours other than brown and grey to the battlefield? AND RAINBOWS?

Oh what a beautiful world that would be.

[G]

This. Also, i bitched in the alt-forum, but ill bitch here too. Fuck this game on veteran. Who the fuck puts infinite respawns in a game nowadays in a FPS? Thats not upping the difficulty, that shits just lazy.


So it's basically back to the way things were before MW2

[alvarado52]

So it's basically back to the way things were before MW2


Havent played MW1 in a long while, but i dont recall infinite respawns in it. Its just Treyarch's bitch azzness

[G]

All of the CoDs had infinite respawns until you advance to a certain point. It was fucking ridiculous in some parts, especially with the grenades coming from every direction. MW2 fixed that, and had a pre set amount of baddies. It made campaign basically a cake walk through most parts.

That could be why they removed the set amount, because everyone and their mom had the veteran achievements.

[El Fangel]

I thought you were referring to player respawns and I was like ...seriously? You are bitching about being able to continue after a random cheap nade hits you.

I know in MW2, the autoload had me next to an exploding red barrel, like 200+ times I respawned before I was lucky enough to get away before it blew up.

[alvarado52]

All of the CoDs had infinite respawns until you advance to a certain point. It was fucking ridiculous in some parts, especially with the grenades coming from every direction. MW2 fixed that, and had a pre set amount of baddies. It made campaign basically a cake walk through most parts.

That could be why they removed the set amount, because everyone and their mom had the veteran achievements.

the friendly ai is so fucking lame in this game. The don't advance at all, take your cover spots and push you out into fire, and on so many occasions I've seen them just let a bad guy sit behind them and shoot at them. I have patience, but the respawn/ai combo is frustrating a shit

[G]

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[D Mac]

Vid doesn't work

[Blitz]

Saw a vid that all the requirements for pro perks. Looks like they're gonna be much more time consuming to get this time around.

[El Fangel]

Anyone else notice there is no painkiller/Juggernaut or stopping power perks?

Fucking A.

[D Mac]

So are you buying it or not.

[El Fangel]

Yeah, sometime after the 12th

[alvarado52]

Anyone else notice there is no painkiller/Juggernaut or stopping power perks?

Fucking A.

There is one that makes you take less damage from explosives.