Will anyone be able to beat Brock within these two years?

[BillyBonez]

So, right now Brock is pretty much the best in UFC (imo in the world but thats debatable and I dont want this to be another Fedor/Brock debate). Now, we all know that not one fighter can stay on top forever, they hit they prime and then fall apart, for example cro cop was unbelievable when young but right now he like a punching bag, Couture too is not what he used to be.

So, taking in account his injury/surgery, do u think Brock will stay on top for this and next year. Only 6 months left in this year and then the next. Brock is still young and from what I have heard, he always fighted with that injury/sickness of his and thus was never 100%. However, obviously he couldnt really train when he was sick, so it will remain to be seen how he recovered from it.

But assuming he gets out of it 100% and is back to how he was, how much do u think he has left in "the tank" so to speak? So far no one has been really able to phase him. Okay Mir beat him once under extremely questionable circumstances, but Brock has pretty much dominated everyone else he faced.

Obviously the Carwin fight will show a lot, but from what I have seen of Carwin, I dont think he has the tools or the fighting experience to beat Brock Lesnar. Yeah, he had more fights but most of them were against people who suck. Anyway, I mean in general, I think Carwin fight has been discussed enough already...

So how long is Brock going to go before he starts to decline?

[El Fangel]

I think you need to stop using the letter "U" as the word "you"

[BillyBonez]

I think you need to stop using the letter "U" as the word "you"

Its the internet not grammar school get over it Grandma, lol. :rofl:

[Nark Order]

BillyBonez, what is your obsession with making Brock Lesnar seem like some absolutely unstoppable force? Surely, it's possible but he's still got many weaknesses and things he needs to work on. He's a great fighter and a force to be reckoned with but you playing him off to be a god of some sort is fucking ridiculous. Carwin has a very good chance of beating Brock Lesnar,

[IC Champion]

I think somone like Cain Valesquez could beat Brock. Good hands, good footwork, speed, wrestling, and very good striking for a heavyweight. Not to mention his BJJ background. All those skills could be overwhelming to such a one dememsional fighter like Brock. All Brock really has is his wrestling, and a top game, if you can neutralize that, Brock isn't left with much in the way of skills. He has weak submissions, and submission defence, and he would be badly outstruke by someone like Valesquez.

Brock is a beast, but I don't see him being far and away the best in the world, because he's not. He isn't even far and away the best in the UFC. Honestly, I wanna see how Brock does when he can't secure a take down, then we will see what he has.

[Hanso Amore]

Wow, Winning 3 fights makes you the best in the world? Holy shit, this guy has a Paul Bunyan like legend growing

[Nark Order]

Yeah. I love Brock Lesnar. This is getting ridiculous though.

[IC Champion]

If he thinks this highly of Brock, he must think GSP or BJ are living gods.

[BigDaddyCool]

I know who will:

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[El Fangel]

Its the internet not grammar school get over it Grandma, lol. :rofl:

Its a specific part of the internet, based on wrestling, inhabited by males mostly in their 20's.

Typing like a 12 year old girl will get you nothing, except a few PM's from Superslim.

[BillyBonez]

Its a specific part of the internet, based on wrestling, inhabited by males mostly in their 20's.

Typing like a 12 year old girl will get you nothing, except a few PM's from Superslim.

That dont mean u gotta type like ur in school. Seriously if u have a problem that somebody on the INTERNET spells "you" as u then u must hate smiley faces too and probably need help from a doctor.

[El Fangel]

That doesn't mean you have to type like you are in school. Seriously if you have a problem that somebody on the INTERNET spells "you" as "u", then you must hate smiley faces too and probably need help from a doctor.

[Mr. C]

Carwin has more experience, but has logged less actual time. Lesnar takes this one by ground and pound round two.

Lyoto Machida could move up to heavyweight right now and beat Lesnar and has expressed interest in fighting Lesnar in the past, and I'm not sure Lesnar would be able to impose his gameplan at will. Machida has never been taken down once in the UFC and is hard to catch. I wouldn't be surprised to see Lesnar knocked out while advancing forward.

[Krimzon7]

Rated R Classic, that would be amazing.

So to answer the question, Brock will lose in his next 4 fights, and I love Brock.

[SuperSlim]

Its a specific part of the internet, based on wrestling, inhabited by males mostly in their 20's.

Typing like a 12 year old girl will get you nothing, except a few PM's from Superslim.

Really? Come on man this is getting beyond lame. Beyond sad. What's lower than pathetic cause that's where you're getting with that.

Now as far as the topic at hand... the guy's obsession with Brock is ... weird. Brock beat Mir, Herring, Couture, and some Chinese guy. Carwin... is just a beast. I'm thinking finally... Carwin will be taken beyond the first round... but I also think that we are going to be crowning a new heavyweight champion.

Lesnar hasn't really had his chin tested yet. Carwin will do more than test it... he'll probably shatter it. A guy that can match Lesnar is size, speed, strength... Lesnar will be pretty neutralized. Not to mention the extremely long time Brock has been out of the octagon while Carwin has been continuing.

Lesnar isn't the best in the world... for sure. And Cain could beat Lesnar. But I'm almost willing to bet that Carwin can do it too.

[Reavant]

russow will probably beat lesnar

[IC Champion]

russow will probably beat lesnar

I can't tell if that's a serious statement or not.

[Reavant]

come on

[Perry Saturn]

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If this kick doesnt beat lesnar, then overselling falling over the ropes will.

[Jura]

Black Lesnar

[BillyBonez]

Here is something to show you why Lesnar will demolish Carwin.
Watch it fully, it starts off showing Brock and then shows Carwin to compare...(skip to around 1 minute if u dont want to see Lesnar highlights)

Man, this "fight" isnt gonna be a fight, it will be a mauling!

lol @ Carwin.

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[IC Champion]

LOL, I didn't see them show little Randy stuffing Brocks takedowns, which did happen, if you were to watch the whole fight.

[alvarado52]

omfg bro, stop baiting people into discussing MMA with you, because your knowledge and logic is flawed. You suck Lesnar's penis because he was in the WWE and dont look at him as a fighter with pros and cons. Also, how about you pony up a reputable link showing where its confirmed he has always been sick and/or injured, because as far as I know, he has been healthy with the exception of the most recent bout of sickness he had.

[Nark Order]

He's not even trying to have a discussion. He's just a run-of-the-mill troll at this point. Not unique in any fashion. Just a troll.

[Reavant]

how much you think this guy pictures his cock between lesnars boobs when he sees his tat?

[Krimzon7]

omfg bro, stop baiting people into discussing MMA with you, because your knowledge and logic is flawed. You suck Lesnar's penis because he was in the WWE and dont look at him as a fighter with pros and cons. Also, how about you pony up a reputable link showing where its confirmed he has always been sick and/or injured, because as far as I know, he has been healthy with the exception of the most recent bout of sickness he had.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=250WJbz3LJs

I suck at embedding, but here's the link. Not trolling either. Just trying to give you the words out of Dana's foul mouth.

[Rollermacka]

GSP should fight Brock, this way he can win and say "I was not impressed by your preformance". Of course then Brock will come back and F5 him through the announcer's table :shifty:

[illmatic]

http://mmajunkie.com/dyn/images/fighters/cain-velasquez-2.jpg

[Funky Fly]

http://mmajunkie.com/dyn/images/fighters/cain-velasquez-2.jpg

Now that he actually has some power to his strikes, I'm inclined to agree. He's got the best chance.

[Reavant]

hes a bad man

[alvarado52]

Cain's a monster. I do think he has a great chance of beating Lesnar. He's a better striker, put some strength in those punches, and he isnt a slouch on the mat.

[Mooияakeя™]

http://www.yorkblog.com/mma/scarf.jpg

[Swiss Ultimate]

Kurt Angle could so take Brock Lesnar.

[Johnny McNasty]

Didn't he already? Referring to the stories that use to come out when Kurt was in the WWE, where he would be challenged by random superstars backstage to a wrestling match. Remember him wrestling circles around Brock I believe.

[Reavant]

yea kurt could probably work lesnar in a strait wrestling match

[BillyBonez]

2 weekS until Lesnar/Carwin...and until Lesnar will send the Carwin fanboys crying as their hero is crushed.

[Swiss Ultimate]

2 weekS until Lesnar/Carwin...and until Lesnar will send the Carwin fanboys crying as their hero is crushed.

He proves nothing until he beats Kurt Angle.

NOTHING.

[Johnny McNasty]

yea kurt could probably work lesnar in a strait wrestling match

Not dissing on Brock's skills or what not, but his strategy has always been 1.Get take down 2.Pummel 3.??? 4.Profit. I think Kurt(with some basic MMA training) would pose a real challenge for Brock, due to his world class wrestling game.

[Johnny McNasty]

2 weekS until Lesnar/Carwin...and until Lesnar will send the Carwin fanboys crying as their hero is crushed.

If this pans out anything like your England v Algeria prediction, than I'm quite worried for Brock.

[Funky Fly]

Lesnar/Carwin is so lopsided, it's actually even. Carwin has way more power in his hands (KOs, via short punches, what?) and could end it if it stays up. But if Lesnar is smart, this goes to the ground almost instantly and the difference between Division 1 and Division 2 becomes apparent.

[BillyBonez]

Lesnar/Carwin is so lopsided, it's actually even. Carwin has way more power in his hands (KOs, via short punches, what?) and could end it if it stays up. But if Lesnar is smart, this goes to the ground almost instantly and the difference between Division 1 and Division 2 becomes apparent.

Exactly. Brock didn't stand up with less dangerous strikers, so he will definetely keep the fight on the ground where Carwin doesnt stand a real shot!

[RP]

Cain Valesquez

[The Naitch]

I can see Brock being beat by just about anybody who has that punchers' chance. By no means do I think Brock is an unstoppable monster. I can see either Velasquez or Dos Santos knocking him out

[Nark Order]

Apparently Dos Santos has a ground game but it hasn't been seen all too much. He seems like a rather one dimensional fighter at the moment. He's going to need more tricks up his sleeve if he wants to continue to dominate the division. Because as Roy Nelson demonstrated, there are some guys that you simply aren't going to knock out.

[nojomo]

I think you need to stop using the letter "U" as the word "you"

"U" need to fuck off.

[The Naitch]

^ lol at this guy

[illmatic]

So where are all the guys that were saying Brock was the Greatest and Cain stood no chance??? HAHAHA

Brock got FUCKING DESTROYED! Viva La Raza!

[MoFo]

no u

[Krimzon7]

I honestly don't recall many people making bold statments as you recall illmatic. Regardless, cain put on one helluva show.

[RP]

Cain Valesquez

[Funky Fly]

So where are all the guys that were saying Brock was the Greatest and Cain stood no chance??? HAHAHA

Brock got FUCKING DESTROYED! Viva La Raza!

You mean the one guy that everyone called a fucking idiot? Long gone probably.

[Reavant]

he was long gone after carwin beat him up