Jurassic Park IV

[The Fraze]

"Jurassic Park III director Joe Johnston revealed in an interview in January 2010 that Jurassic Park IV was set to be the beginning of a second Jurassic Park trilogy. He also added, “Jurassic Park 4 is going to be unlike anything you’ve seen.” According to a new interview conducted in 2010 by Drew McWeeny with Joe Johnston on the website Behind the Films, a new script is under works with a different idea behind it. Johnston says once he finishes Captain America, he hopefully will develop Jurassic Park IV with Steven Spielberg. It certainly seems probable that we will see "Jurassic Park IV". Joe Johnston enthusiastically has confirmed the likelihood of the film's production more than once."

Not sure if this is news to anyone, but I thought it was pretty damn awesome as I love the Jurassic Park franchise.

http://scrapetv.com/News/News%20Pages/Science/Images/t-rex-jurassic-park.jpg

[DrA]

Why do they keep building Jurassic Parks

[Shaggy]

I remember when first hearing about this that the story of the movie was gonna involve the Army taking Dinos and equipping them with high tech guns for combat only for them to turn against the army.

[The Fraze]

That would be so f'n lame if that were the case.

[Skippord]

lol dinosaur Terminators

[Bad Company]

Dino Riders. It's been done.

Bring back Sam Neill

[Jeritron]

I love the first movie, but I don't think there's any need for more sequels. I suppose I'd check it out, but considering Spielberg himself only pulled off a mediocre sequel, I think they should just stop.
3 was fun at points, but it was closer to a SyFy channel movie than Jurassic Park. It pretty much just had a big budget and a few better actors

[RP]

I remember when first hearing about this that the story of the movie was gonna involve the Army taking Dinos and equipping them with high tech guns for combat only for them to turn against the army.

i'd watch

[Downunder]

The first one was great - the rest were fucking awful.

I bet this pile of shit is in 3D - oh yay

[Kalyx triaD]

And what way can you present the 'dinos back in modern times' idea that's so different?

[Rammsteinmad]

Pretty much everyone loved the first one. I liked the second one (though haven't seen it in years), and the third was okay, but nothing special.

If a fourth one is actually made I'll probably check it out for some fun, but come on there's been on-again/off-again news on Jurassic Park 4 for years, most notably the 'Dino Riders' theme someone mentioned above.

[Loose Cannon]

Jurassic Park 9: T-Rex takes Manhattan

[thedamndest]

That already happened. We still have the option of sending someone back in time to a real Jurassic Park though.

[Hanso Amore]

THe dinosaurs hold a talent contest where the winner gets to save JP

[The Fraze]

I liked all three. But Jurassic Park is one of my favorite movies ever. I liked The Lost World a lot too. Jurassic Park III was the weakest but I still enjoyed it. I hope they do make the fourth, and not make it ridiculous.

[thedamndest]

Are there any series where the fourth movie is not ridiculous? Not rhetorical. I would like thoughtful consideration to this question.

[The Fraze]

I don't believe there are. But I'm sure it can be done.

[Jeritron]

Are there any series where the fourth movie is not ridiculous? Not rhetorical. I would like thoughtful consideration to this question.

Jaws? Alien? Police Academy?

Even the best series see dropoffs by the 3rd or 4th installment. I can't think of many good 4th movies.
I liked Indy 4 and Die Hard 4, but there are plenty that would argue against that.

The best bet for another Jurassic Park sequel would be if all these years later Spielberg took another crack at it, and really went all out with it.
It would be best as a spiritual successor to the first, which acknowledged the others but really only followed in the footsteps of the original.
All of the philisophical debate about playing god and screwing with nature and genetics was the best part of the original. The dino action was incredible, but the sequels proved that it can only go so far without an engaging story.
I'd also like to see Malcolm, Grant and Sadler all back together, and a bit more made of that rival company that Nedry was stealing the embryos for. Dogdson! Dogdson! We've got Dogdson here!

[The Fraze]

I think Spielberg is going to produce it. But I'm really hoping for an epic journey if it does happen. And Grant/Sadler/Malcom have to be a part of it. I totally didn't even think about how they could use that rival company in the fourth. That would be sweet.

[Jeritron]

A Muldoon-like character who had a bit more bite to go with his bark might be a plus. Of course, he should get clever-girled in the end, but not without a bigger fight.

I actually think a story about the rival company Dogdson worked for developing their own Jurassic Park ripoff (with all new suprises) would be the best idea.
It's better than the main characters getting sucked into the original park (or one of it's convenient new sites) again.

[Innovator]

ROCKY IV, COOOOOOOOOOOOOOME OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON

[Jeritron]

Never understood how Spitters never made another appearance in either of the sequels. Underrated.

[The Fraze]

The original characters could be trying to stop the rival company or some shit. And I agree with the Dilophosaurus statement, way underrated and they need to make another appearance.

http://archive.liveauctioneers.com/archive4/profiles-in-history/16511/0750_4_lg.jpg

[Jeritron]

You'd think that by now they would have just given up on the carnivores, and built a Jurassic Park that only featured herbivores.
Sure, it wouldn't be as awesome, but you'd still make money hand over fist without having to worry about it breaking down into disaster. It beats Yellowstone or Busch Gardens.

[The Fraze]

Carnivores are where it's at.

[Jeritron]

Yea but aquariums get by without Great White Sharks. I don't know how, but they do.

[The Fraze]

I'm fascinated by great whites. I guess there's gonna be a new show on NatGeo about them.

[Jeritron]

Tonight, I heard. I intend on watching it

[The Fraze]

Dang, what time? PST of course...

[Jeritron]

Great Whites are like the most awesome thing that we know currently exists. I'm fascinated by UFOs/Aliens, Dinosaurs, Time Travel, Ghosts, and all that other awesome stuff, but Great White Sharks are the only thing that awesome that's not extinct or unproven.

[Jeritron]

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/outposts/2010/06/expedition-great-white-premieres-sunday-on-national-geographic-channel.html

I guess it's not until Sunday night? Some guy on the radio mentioned it was tonight and decieved me.

[Jeritron]

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/.a/6a00d8341c630a53ef0133ef767318970b-600wi

That is a fucking porker, as Quint would say

[Jeritron]

http://www.askcorran.com/clever_girl.gif

[Fignuts]

I remember when first hearing about this that the story of the movie was gonna involve the Army taking Dinos and equipping them with high tech guns for combat only for them to turn against the army.

That would be so f'n lame if that were the case.

http://grocerystorefeet.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/dinoriders1.jpg

Yeah, you're right. Totally lame.

[Fignuts]

Also, I love JP, and felt that the third one was underrated.

[Jeritron]

http://www.chiefmag.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/holy_shit_this_is_awesome.jpg

[The Fraze]

http://www.askcorran.com/clever_girl.gif

Clever girl

[Jeritron]

http://skywalker.cochise.edu/wellerr/students/megalodon2/project_files/image009.jpg

[Kalyx triaD]

MEGALODON

[Jeritron]

There is at least one Great White Shark prowling the deep that's well over 30 feet. Prove me wrong

[alvarado52]

im keeping my fingers crossed for the Triceratrons to appear

[Adder]

So I take it Jeff Goldbloom needs another movie role?

[Jeritron]

They're making Independence Day 2 & 3

[McLegend]

So Bill Pullman needs another movie role?

[Loose Cannon]

I think we're gonna need a bigger boat

[thedamndest]

I will accept Die Hard and Indy 4 as legit decent sequels. Rocky IV is really quite "ehhhh" beyond nostalgia. Star Wars is an interesting case because of the huge time difference. Phantom Menace would be what we're talking about. You can consider it the fourth of the overall series, but it's really the first of a new trilogy. Either way, it's probably the de facto worst.

[McLegend]

And no matter how you look at it The Phantom Menace still sucks.

So you're right anyway.

[Jeritron]

I think Phantom Menace is a far better movie than Attack of the Clones. Either way, both aren't nearly as good as the original trilogy or Revenge of the Sith.
It's hard to apply Star Wars here since they're made in trilogies and so far apart, but yea.

It would have been interesting to see if The Hobbit lived up to the LOTR trilogy, or suffered from fan expectation syndrome. We might not even see that now, though...

[Kalyx triaD]

Peter Jackson should just direct the fucking thing already.

[Jeritron]

Their claim is that he has other projects and they're looking for a new director altoghether, but that sounds like a statement to stall the decision.
The Lovely Bones was a critical and financial failure, and he could probably use the bounceback. I wouldn't be suprised to see him take over. I hope he does.
Bringing in a new director now that they've written and designed the whole thing would be a disaster, I think. Who else could really be up to task, especially when it's got others creative DNA all over it going in?
I think it's pretty much Peter Jackson or bust

[XCaliber]

The original JP will forever be a great classic movie in my heart and I though both the sequels were good each in their own right so I'm all for this unless the premise is utterly ridiculous.

[Miotch]

Peter Jackson should just direct the fucking thing already.

Ooh, that brings up an interesting point to the '4th film' discussion...

I expect The Hobbit to be quite good, so you can almost definitely preemptively put that on the list.

[Miotch]

Also, anyone who thought Indy 4 was good is a soul less human being and is just adding to the destruction of my childhood, so fuck you.

[Jeritron]

I beg to differ

[XCaliber]

Also, anyone who thought Indy 4 was good is a soul less human being and is just adding to the destruction of my childhood, so fuck you.

Honestly I thought it was at least better than TOD.

[Jeritron]

It's more or less on par with TOD. I'd have like a bit less lazy looking CGI, but other than that I enjoyed the story, characters, and Indy elements.
I think complaints about nuking the fridge and the like just reflects a more cynical age of moviegoers. Like jumping out of a plane in a raft, or any of the other shit that happens all the time in Indy movies makes any more sense...
I think these days people just like their heroes like Bourne, or the new Batman and Bond. Indy didn't really change, his crowd did.

I thought it was fun in the same spirit as the originals, while having a really clever story.

IMHO. I know this a touchy subject among movie fans

[Savio]

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[thedamndest]

Actually Rambo was pretty good. Not nearly as good as First Blood, but a big step up from Rambo III.

[Miotch]

It's more or less on par with TOD. I'd have like a bit less lazy looking CGI, but other than that I enjoyed the story, characters, and Indy elements.
I think complaints about nuking the fridge and the like just reflects a more cynical age of moviegoers. Like jumping out of a plane in a raft, or any of the other shit that happens all the time in Indy movies makes any more sense...
I think these days people just like their heroes like Bourne, or the new Batman and Bond. Indy didn't really change, his crowd did.

I thought it was fun in the same spirit as the originals, while having a really clever story.

IMHO. I know this a touchy subject among movie fans

Fucking ALIENS and Indy's spawn essentially being Tarzan.

You've all got to be kidding with me.

[Kalyx triaD]

People are such drama queens over the last Indy. Not nearly as bad as what people say. In fact, all the hate makes the movie look better.

[thedamndest]

Aliens aren't any more ridiculous than the powers of the other artifacts he's chased. They're just a new direction. Same with his son. He's the son of Indy and Marion so obviously he's going to be some kind of genetic treasure hunting freak.

[The Fraze]

I'd like to think that they'd be aware of the stigma of a 4th installment and try not to fuck it up.

[Jeritron]

Aliens aren't any more ridiculous than the powers of the other artifacts he's chased. They're just a new direction. Same with his son. He's the son of Indy and Marion so obviously he's going to be some kind of genetic treasure hunting freak.

Exactly. Not to mention the Aliens mythology works in with the Mayans, in which it is a religious power and centers around an archelogical artifcat.
It was also brilliant to me, since the movie was logically set years later in the 1950s, at the height of the flying saucer craze.
Couple that with The Red Scare, and making the Russians the villains.
I was just a fan of what they did. I didn't see it as any departure from the original format, at all.

[mitchables]

A Muldoon-like character who had a bit more bite to go with his bark might be a plus. Of course, he should get clever-girled in the end, but not without a bigger fight.

http://www.filmsite.org/fotos/lostworld7.jpg

this man led to the phrase "he's no roland tembo" becoming commonplace among my nerd friends, especially when talking about muldoon.

[mitchables]

muldoon: taken out swiftly by animals he is supposedly an expert on, without getting a shot off

tembo: glorified hunter who bags himself a motherfucking t-rex and lives to talk about it

he is badass.

[Jeritron]

This is a game trail, Mr. Ludlow. Carnivores hunt on game trails. Do you want to set up basecamp in the middle of a buffet?

Peter? If you want me to run your little camping trip there are two conditions, firstly: I'm in charge and when I'm not around Dieter is. All you need to do is sign the cheques and open your case of scotch when we have a good day. Secondly: My fee, you can keep it. All I want in exchange for my services is the right to hunt one of the Tyrannosauruses. A Male. A Buck only. How and why are my business, now if you don't like either of those two conditions you're on your own. So go ahead, set up base camp right here, or in a swamp or in the middle of the Rex nest for all I care. But I've been on too many safaris with rich dentists to listen to any more sucidal ideas. Ok?

[Jeritron]

Roland Tembo was easily the best part of that movie. He had some awesome lines and moments.

It should also be pointed out that he was gay, they just never outright said it, but he was.

[mitchables]

that doesn't change anything, he still smashed himself a tyrannosaur.

isn't it mentioned in the book?

[Jeritron]

I'm not saying it changes anything. I'm just pointing it out that he's a badass Tyranosaur hunter who happens to be homosexual, most likely. He smashes T-Rexes and stereotypes. Take that homophobes

[mitchables]

if anything that kind of increases his bad-assery, since he can hunt dinosaurs and look amazing while doing it

[Jeritron]

I also don't think he was in The Lost World book

[Jeritron]

Going to take this oppurtunity to point out how lame the Dino Hunters William H. Macy hired were in JP3.
He hired Mr. Noodle. They were all terrified of Dinosaurs and ran like bitches before getting eaten without a fight.

Horrible team.

The made up action figure Dino Raiders were far more badass.

[Jeritron]

http://images.comiccollectorlive.com/covers/702/70234ad9-62b9-4dd0-bb6c-eb7d1a7659a9.jpghttp://www.jptoys.com/toy-database/jurassic-park/jurassic-park-series-2/humans/dr-snare/img/snare2.jpg


These guys are too experienced to fall for William H. Macy's billionaire masquerade and bounced checks

[mitchables]

I also don't think he was in The Lost World book

yeah, that's right. the book had a guy called thorne, i think. he was kind of a pastiche of tembo and someone else.

[Jeritron]

I was just reading that the entire inGen plot wasn't even present in the book. It was about Dodgson and the rival corporation trying to steal material from the site, while Hammond's team was there. I'm not sure if it was to stop them or not.

Either way it sounds like a better idea, and one that should still be re-worked for any potential sequel.

[The Fraze]

God T-Rex's are so badass. I used to collect them. Real ones, of course.

[Arashi Kage]

Dogdson! Dogdson! We've got Dogdson here!

:rofl: See? Nobody cares!

On a serious note, I agree, would be interesting to see the rival company with a little more backstory about them vs Hammond.

[Jeritron]

They really tried their hardest to get the Spinosaurus over. They had it squash T Rex like it was nothing. That was a pretty big risk. Spino was cool, but come on.

Also, they hyped up using the Carnosaurus forever, and when they did it scoped out a pile of shit and walked away. That thing would have been so much more badass than the Spino

[XCaliber]

Here's a dreadful thought but anyone think since it's the trend as of late that they'll try to shoehorn this in as some sort of prequel or tweener adventure?

[Jeritron]

Raptors in the long grass was one of the most badass scenes of Lost World. I actually would like to watch that movie right now, but I don't have it on DVD. Might have to pop out the VHS.

[Jeritron]

I just hope it doesn't involve Dinos in space.

[The Fraze]

I don't think they'll be so retarded to make something that is complete shit.

[XCaliber]

I just hope it doesn't involve Dinos in space.

Turok been there done that but I wouldn't count it out.

[The Fraze]

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[Jeritron]

I think the sequels made the mistake of being more action/adventure oriented, and abandoning the science fiction.
I'm not saying to set it in space, or give them lasers or anything. I mean they should return to the focus of man creating dinosaurs, and what consquences it has. 15 years later, I think there is a chance to re-visit that.
It would be especially interesting if the rival company was making the same mistakes, and all new ones, and the experienced people from the first movie made use of the lessons they learned from their mistakes.

[The Fraze]

I think the sequels made the mistake of being more action/adventure oriented, and abandoning the science fiction.
I'm not saying to set it in space, or give them lasers or anything. I mean they should return to the focus of man creating dinosaurs, and what consquences it has. 15 years later, I think there is a chance to re-visit that.
It would be especially interesting if the rival company was making the same mistakes, and all new ones, and the experienced people from the first movie made use of the lessons they learned from their mistakes.

Agreed.

Although I liked the sequels. The Lost World I really enjoyed, more so than III.

[Jeritron]

Well, they also came out much sooner after the original, so people had an appetite for more dinosaurs.
They couldn't really get away with not showing more dinos and dino action.
So I understand how their hands were tied there in trying to please the audience.

Now, this many years removed from the franchise, they could probably go back to slowly building towards the dinosaurs and making them have a bigger impact again. It would be a total nostalgia trip too, really.
It's been long enough that the JP T-Rex returning to the screen could be pretty epic if hyped right. Same with the Raptors.

[The Fraze]

The T-Rex was barely used in III, and it's my favorite part so I'd be excited to see it. Raptors are badass, but they freak my the fuck out much more than the T-Rex. They're like the athletes of dinosaurs.

[Jeritron]

I didn't care for the Raptors in part 3. I just didn't like the way they were used and the way they looked. I won't get into the issue of them evolving insane amounts over the course of 4 years, and the goofiness of Grant dreaming about them talking to him even though he's never seen anything of the sort. That's another story.
They just kind of jumped the shark. They should bring them back to the way they were in 1 and 2.

[XCaliber]

I'm probably one the few peeps out here that preferred 3 over Lost World I liked the fact that it was darker but having Goldbloom's character as one of the leads didn't work for me.

[Jeritron]

Having Goldblum's character as the lead would have been awesome if he was more like Ian Malcolm from the first film.
They're both heavily just Goldblum, like all his roles, but there's a definite change in the character and that's not just because of development. They sort of watered him down to be a lead.

[The Fraze]

The Raptor mystique was toyed with in III. They were intense in the original and The Lost World. I really like Goldblum, though.

[XCaliber]

Having Goldblum's character as the lead would have been awesome if he was more like Ian Malcolm from the first film.
They're both heavily just Goldblum, like all his roles, but there's a definite change in the character and that's not just because of development. They sort of watered him down to be a lead.

Bingo it's like they tried adding another dimension to his persona and I never really bought it but I do rather like Goldblum he more believable as a hero in ID4 which btw I'm not sure I want a sequel done for.

[The Fraze]

Yeah, the Malcom from the original would have been better. "Chaos."

[Jeritron]

Malcom is my favorite character in the original

[The Fraze]

Must go faster.

[Reavant]

they should try bringing back Neanderthals and cromags with the dinosaurs

[Fignuts]

I guess in reality, raptors are only like 3 feet tall, at most, and the dinosaur they were actually based on in the movie was Dinonichious.(probably butchered the spelling there.) But Velociraptors sounds cooler, so they switched the names.

[Kalyx triaD]

Utah Raptors were pretty big.

[Jeritron]

I thought Utah Raptors were pretty much the exact thing from the movie?

[Kalyx triaD]

<<< Huge dinosaur mark as a pup.

[Jeritron]

Kalyx beat me to the punch. I also thought regular Velociraptors were about 6 feet. It's been a while since I've actually brushed up on my Dino knowledge though

[Kalyx triaD]

I thought Utah Raptors were pretty much the exact thing from the movie?

Utahs should be bigger, though you could say the movie raptors were just small Utahs

[Kalyx triaD]

Then again, these were frog-DNA dinos.

[Jeritron]

What's up with all these new depictions of Raptors with feathers? Fuck that noise. That doesn't sound very scary...more like a 6 foot turkey.

[Jeritron]

I marked out when Raptors were added to the Dino population of Skull Island in King Kong

[Kalyx triaD]

What's up with all these new depictions of Raptors with feathers? Fuck that noise. That doesn't sound very scary...more like a 6 foot turkey.

You'll find them scary when a raptor gives you a death stare. Also JP3 took many liberties with the raptor design to make them look scarier ('evil' eyes, longer teeth). It worked for me, though the narrative about them being smart as monkeys was a bit forced.

[Jeritron]

True, but they didn't really look any scarier to me. They just seemed faker. They were almost too polished and exotic looking, to the point where it's like the type of thing you'd see on a cheap ride or museum exhibit.

[Kalyx triaD]

Pterodactyls looked cool, though.

[Fignuts]

Feathers on the raptors was actually the correct depiction.

[Jeritron]

I know I was referring to the searching I was doing online just now, not JP3. In either case, I don't like it. I'm attached to the JP1 Raptors, regardless of their scientific accuracy.

[thedamndest]

They need to bust out the Compeys that killed Hammond.

[Jeritron]

They did, for Dieter

[thedamndest]

Was this in JPIII? I have little recollection of that.

Edit: Never mind, The Lost World. Do not remember that.

[Kalyx triaD]

Had a hard time finding Compies deadly. They're fucking chickens with an attitude.

[Jeritron]

Was this in JPIII? I have little recollection of that.

Edit: Never mind, The Lost World. Do not remember that.

Lost World

[Jeritron]

Had a hard time finding Compies deadly. They're fucking chickens with an attitude.

Yea but they pack hunt. It's the same idea as Pirahnas

[Kalyx triaD]

Don't find piranhas scary. Gold fish with attitudes.

[El Tigre]

lol. Still, I can honestly say I'd rather stick my hand in a goldfish bowl than a piranha tank.

As thrilled as I am for the continuation of one of my favorite movie series, I have two concerns:

One, as already discussed, how closely will the movie follow the latest scientific evidence concerning dinosaurs. I actually hope they only sample some tidbits and choose to use entertainment over accuracy.

Second, I'm hoping to see more experienced hunters. There was one in JP and JPLW, but they were both taken out fairly quickly. It'd be nice to see just one last the majority of the film.

[Jeritron]

Tembo didn't get taken out

[El Tigre]

From the second one right? It has been a while since I've seen it but didn't he get taken out by a Rex?

[thedamndest]

Every character in Jurassic Park was an experienced hunter by the second toy line.

[XCaliber]

Random thought: i'd like to see more of the Triceratops involved the next one preferrably.

[The Fraze]

Most of the T-rex fossil findings have been from the United States. I think that's pretty awesome.

[The Fraze]

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[Shaggy]

I remember in the first movie when Wayne Knight ended up dropping that DNA canister into the mud a few people were thinking that it would lead to a sequel to where the canister would play into it.

[XCaliber]

I remember in the first movie when Wayne Knight ended up dropping that DNA canister into the mud a few people were thinking that it would lead to a sequel to where the canister would play into it.

Was one of those who'd theorized that would come into play perhaps they may finally tie the loose end so to speak and come to think of I seem to recall another event in the movie that was left sorta open ended.

[mitchables]

From the second one right? It has been a while since I've seen it but didn't he get taken out by a Rex?

no. a rex got taken out by him. we've been over this in this thread already. it is why tembo is the most badass hunter in the series, especially over frauds like muldoon.

[The Fraze]

http://scrapetv.com/News/News%20Pages/Science/images-2/t-rex-jurassic-park.jpg

God T-Rex's are bad ass.

[Jeritron]

watching JP right now on HBO family entertainment. I have it on dvd, but there's something about watching it "live"

[Kalyx triaD]

Ian Malcolm had a strong influence on me when I was a pup.

[Jeritron]

Ian Malcolm was one of the coolest action figures ever, because it was hard to find and anticipated (came out after the first wave)

He was also just an awesome character.

[Jeritron]

http://www.figurerealm.com/Galleries/jurassicparkseries2/IanMalcolm-Series2.jpg

Big fuckin' gun.

[Hanso Amore]

I still have that toy. Gun is long gone. At my moms my neices always play with it and an old roddy piper of mine, and have fights.

Roddy Piper vs Jeff goldblum

Book it

[Hanso Amore]

That gun was so big the hadle didnt eve fit in his hands. All he could hold was the stock.

Nedreys gun was way better.

[Jeritron]

see Thed's quote in my signature

[Jeritron]

Malcolm's gun fit in his hands and stayed though. There were no balance issues. That always suprised me.
His backpack was way better than anyone elses because whatever it contained was a glowing green substance, and that is awesome.

Nedry's removable arms were great

[Jeritron]

How does Nedry get a figure and not Mr. Arnold? I call racism.

And if Nedry and Malcolm can get armed to the teeth, there is no reason why Hammond and Gennaro shouldn't be kicking some ass too.

[The Fraze]

IAN FREEZE

[VSG]

I hope they bring out the sea as well this time, that Mosasaurus needs attention. Also, I don't remember the name of this particular dinosaur but it was in Jurassic Park: The Lost World (The book) and was about 10-12 feet high with camouflage ability in the night. It was mentioned that the night belonged to this particular animal and it also roamed in packs, albeit only 3-5 if I remember.

[El Tigre]

I hope they bring out the sea as well this time, that Mosasaurus needs attention. Also, I don't remember the name of this particular dinosaur but it was in Jurassic Park: The Lost World (The book) and was about 10-12 feet high with camouflage ability in the night. It was mentioned that the night belonged to this particular animal and it also roamed in packs, albeit only 3-5 if I remember.

I'm pretty sure you mean the Carnotaurus. I haven't read the book, but it's the closest to your description.

On the idea of there being more aquatic animals involved, I like it. But in the sense of a movie I'm not sure how well it would play out. To me one of the major elements for this series has been people running as fast as they can from things that want to eat them. Can you imagine that happening on a boat? It would no thought be a dramatic sequence, if it is done correctly.

[Jeritron]

The question is where they would be located. If they were in the waters off the island, they'd be able to swim the entire ocean and that wouldn't make much sense.
They'd have to be contained to the area of the Island somehow. There could be lakes, rivers, and inlets on the island but that would make them freshwater.
Maybe there could be a cove with a massive steel screen that extended down into the water and to the sea floor.

[El Tigre]

Like something similar to the setup in Deep Blue Sea? Yeah, that could work. It's certainly an obvious choice of circumstances.

I can just imagine it... There was a third island!

[Jeritron]

With the cove it would be like an inlet, with all ocean and rocks. 3 sides would be natural geographic barriers, like cliffs and land, and the steel wall would hold the creatures in.
Based on some island coves I've seen, it could be pretty big. Not too big though, since you want to increase the danger.

[Jeritron]

assorted coves before construction of enclosing cage wall and surrounding facilities:

http://www.visitusa.com/california/images/beach-photos/monterey/partington-cove-and-canyon/partington-cove.jpg

http://www.darwinsgalapagos.com/gallery/Tagus-Cove.jpg

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/neil.carrington1/lulworth-cove.jpg

[VSG]

Damn that would be awesome!

The Carnotaurus was the one I referred to earlier, its something different than the regular T-Rex or Velociraptors.

[Johnny McNasty]

Velociraptors need to be brought back as the bad ass, cereal, killing machines that they are. Fuck science. Actually I would love to see a spin off B rate horror movie made just for those lovable man eaters.

Would love to see some sea dinos as well. After a quick google search this guy looks like the most promising. Wouldn't be too big to sustain in a cove, but pretty fucking big and scary enough for hollywood.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/40/Kronosaurus_hunt1DB.jpg/800px-Kronosaurus_hunt1DB.jpg

Kronosaurus (10 m / 33 ft)
Head 2.5 m / 8 ft long; larger and heavier than most land-based predators of the Cretaceous Period

[The Fraze]

Hasn't there been a movie made with that sea dino in it?

[El Tigre]

There's more than likely been several films centered around either that beast or similar creatures, but I think they mostly pertained to straight-to-dvd or SciFi channel movies.

I for one wouldn't mind seeing a sequence where the characters are being chased by a Rex along a beach, only to have that thing come on land (I know that particular dino is aquatic, but their were amphibious ones as well) which would result in the two fighting it out.

Didn't really enjoy that scene in JPIII where that Rex gets taken out by a Spinosaur. I understand they had to build up how dangerous this new dinosaur was, but it just didn't seem that believable to me.

[McLegend]

The reason why you don't do sea attacks is becuase it was all ready done and done really well in Jaws.

[Jeritron]

Of course, but it would be one sequence of a Dinosaur movie, and not the entire focus.
I agree that just about any attempt at making a shark or sea creature movie is pointless because of Jaws, but I don't think that should apply to minor sequences.
There were water attacks in JP3 anyways, since they made the Spinosaurus amphibian.

[Kalyx triaD]

Fuck the idea of cutting a certain approach just because of a broad stroke like "Jaws was about a shark". So we can't another sea creature movie again? C'mon. There's direction, story, characters, tone... All sorts of ways you can present a deadly sea creature terrorizing people differently.

[Jeritron]

They're all too derivative of Jaws. It's a cultural thing. When they try to be too much like Jaws, people say it sucks because it's not Jaws and never will be. When it's different, they say "it was better in Jaws."
Filmakers have every right to try but it's been 35 years this summer, and nothing has even come close.
It's also a case of material. Sea creature terror isn't exactly a rich genre of storytelling. It's a pretty primal thing. There's only so much you can do with it.
I would argue that the focus should be on telling a real story, and if it happens to be set in that environment then so be it.
If you're setting out to tell a sea creature horror story, you're setting out to make Jaws in the first place. All of those elements you listed are completely irrelevant if the goal is as shallow as that.
In the case of all of the movies that have come along on the subject since Jaws, it has been.

[Jeritron]

Moby Dick and Jaws aren't even about sea creature terror anyways. That's what people don't understand.
In the case of Jaws it's something that was done perfectly within the movie, and set the standard, but that's not what made it work.

[The Fraze]

Fuck it, I don't care what they do. I just want it to be awesome.

[Kalyx triaD]

Where the fuck is Meg? I want that book to be filmed, dammit.

[The Fraze]

Nice to see you, Kalyx.

[Kalyx triaD]

Thanks.

[The Fraze]

Pleasure is all of ours.

[Jeritron]

The pleasure is always all Jean Kalyx's

[The Fraze]

Agreed, my sarcasm must have gone unnoticed.