Mortal Kombat (XB360/PS3)

[Kalyx triaD]

http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/109/1096096/MK_1276181585.jpg

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- Tweaked MKvDC (the likely and safe way to go).
- Dramatic Battles.
- Tag-Team Battles (supports 4plyrs, an ace in the hole imo)
- Possibly 'strict' 2D gameplay.
- Enhanced combo system.

First of all, I knew off-bat they weren't reinventing shit, not with Boon at the helm. Same stiff animation and all. However, if they could alter the MKvDC engine a bit, and hearken back to MK3's style - we have their first fighting game in years.

[BigDaddyCool]

Meh...Why do they just keep remaking mortal kombat, does it really sell that well?

[Fignuts]

Mortal Kombat has the best storyline and arguably the most interesting characters. The actual gameplay isn't bad, it just isn't as good as the other major fighting game titles.

Good to see traditional fatalities are back. I hope they have everyone again, like in the last one.

[BigDaddyCool]

Ok, well I can see this looks like just a reboot of the original mortal kombats.

[Nowhere Man]

Eh, I figure I'll give this one a rental. MK hasn't exactly been spectacular in a long time, but they're still decent fun.

[Fignuts]

Ok, well I can see this looks like just a reboot of the original mortal kombats.

How do you figure it's a reboot and not a sequel?

[BigDaddyCool]

How do you figure it's a reboot and not a sequel?

1) It is called Mortal Kombat with no numbers
2) It looks very much like the original ones with updated stuff
3) It could be a sequel that is meant as an homage to the originals before it got all ridiculous.

[BillyBonez]

This looks F'N awesome, MK 1 was one of the first games that got me into bein a gamer and I have mad memories of playing it back when they had arcade machines. MK2 was imo, the best fighting game of all time. Then with MK4 it began to suck, but this looks like it will bring it back into greatness.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

1) It is called Mortal Kombat with no numbers
2) It looks very much like the original ones with updated stuff
3) It could be a sequel that is meant as an homage to the originals before it got all ridiculous.

They're all ridiculous. I didn't play any 3D one past 4, but 1-3 they all had the same fucking moves bar 1 or 2 specials. Shockingly poor games.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

It was a fighting game created for people who were shit at fighting games. And like to masturbate over M rated titles.

[alvarado52]

yes, lord knows any REAL fighting game 1337 pr0 has never, or would never, TOUCH a MK game :roll:

[Kalyx triaD]

It was a fighting game created by people who were shit at fighting games. And like to masturbate over M rated titles.

There was a hint of quality in Deadly Alliance, which diminished in Deception, and was lost in every game since. They simply weren't interested in making a fighting game (and failed at making a 'smash' fighter as well if they wanna pull that excuse).

Just lagging behind the landscape... utterly embarrassing American contribution to the genre.

Still, I can hope for quality within MK trilogy's ballpark (N64 ver.). For the most park all they'd need to do is update/correct vsDC's gameplay which was a broad step in the right direction.

[alvarado52]

also, where the fuck is Scorpion in that trailer?

[D Mac]

Looks awesome.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

yes, lord knows any REAL fighting game 1337 pr0 has never, or would never, TOUCH a MK game :roll:

I'm not saying people can't enjoy it's qualities. It's just that gameplay and depth aren't present in the series.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

It's like whacking off to a homemade cameraphone clip on a flash streaming site.

Sure, it will do the trick, but there's HD porn with hotter chicks out there that you could be watching.

[Khuntry]

Mortal Komeback?

[#BROKEN Hasney]

I think I was describing a Mortal Komeshot.

[alvarado52]

nobody watches HD porn. That's just gross.

[Brujesino]

Looking forward to this game.Looks like a 1st day buy to me.

[Emperor Smeat]

also, where the fuck is Scorpion in that trailer?

Scorpion is still busy in the police station from the other trailer :shifty:

[Juan]

Looking forward to this game.Looks like a 1st day buy to me.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Looks great. Hopefully Goro is playable. I always wanted to be that bastard.

[Reavant]

Looks awesome... especially when sub zero forms a sword and impales his opponent.

also looks like a remake of mk2 with sonya in shackles in shao kahn's arena

[Kalyx triaD]

Was that Sonya? Thought it was Kira.

[Jeritron]

Meh...Why do they just keep remaking mortal kombat, does it really sell that well?

I think people are really just marks for the characters and the nostalgia factor. I can't say that I'm not, even though I don't own an MK game past the 3rd on Sega.

I do play them when friends have them though. Not a big fighter guy, but aside from Street Fighter stuff this is probably the series I most enjoy. And Soul Calibur maybe.

[Boomer]

I wish they could make the juggling look better. I dunno...I guess I can't really look at an MK game from a quality standpoint or take it seriously.

[LuigiD]

I really like what they are doing.
However, I would hope they switch back to 2D..if not, the interest is gone. After several MK games that all played the same and were terribly boring..I really don't care for another one..even if fatalities are back.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Looks great. Hopefully Goro is playable. I always wanted to be that bastard.

I assume you must mean without the aid of codes, as in the N64 game Mortal Kombat 4, you could play as Goro using the code or do some set of "press such-and-such at the menu and then do this and that".

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[Reavant]

Was that Sonya? Thought it was Kira.

i assumed it was sonya i guess

[Emperor Smeat]

Looks great. Hopefully Goro is playable. I always wanted to be that bastard.

He was playable in Mortal Kombat 4, MK Trilogy (console only), MK Gold (cheat only), MK Deception (Gamecube only), MK Unchained (only on PSP), and MK Armageddon.

Don't think he was ever playable in any arcade version except MK 4.

[Vietnamese Crippler]

i assumed it was sonya i guess

Definitely Kira.

[Funky Fly]

Um, yay? :?:

Dunno. Every time MK's rolled out a new game in the last 10 years, it's been basically the same old shit with a few minor (sold as major) bells and whistles.

[Juan]

Um, yay? :?:

Dunno. Every time MK's rolled out a new game in the last 10 years, it's been basically the same old shit with a few minor (sold as major) bells and whistles.

Off topic but, I feel the exact way about WWE SvR

[Funky Fly]

That's because it's in exactly the same situation.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

That's because it's in exactly the same situation.

Major difference though is that MK doesn't come out every year. They don't even have an excuse for their lack of changes.

[Funky Fly]

For whatever reason, I end up getting the new one every time. Probably because enough time goes by between them that I forget how stupid the last one was. Not gonna fall for it this time tho... that's not true. I'll bargain bin it then still feel ripped off.

[D Mac]

Dunno looks pretty kickass to me.

[Funky Fly]

Nothing's changed. Looks like they took MK Armageddon and slapped it together with MK vs DC (sans DC characters obv) and then added shit that's already in older fighters (the dramatic battles from Street Fighter Alpha 2 Gold/3 and tag battle from Tekken Tag Tournament/SoulCalibur 2).

[Reavant]

whatever its mortal kombat and it rules

[Mr. Nerfect]

I always loved playing the Mortal Kombat fighters when I was younger. It makes me very happy to see Sektor back and Teleport Uppercutting shit. But the general feel of it has a "take the classic elements of Mortal Kombat and make a new game" vibe to it. Nothing is really confirmed about the story (other than it will apparently be the deepest storyline in fighting game history), but it just sort of seems like a remake/reboot as many have predicted.

I'm okay with that, as it'd be the first time the series has gone "back to roots" with its main fighting line. Also, judging by some of the roster inclusions (Reptile, Mileena, Sektor) they'll be paying a bit of lip service to the fans this time around. Often they just throw shit at a wall and see what sticks. I think Warner Bros. purchasing the series has gotten them to step-up and deliver something that people actually want to play -- although they are defintely weary (and rightfull so, admittedly) about just how much faith they place in the renewed franchise. Keep an eye on this title, however.

Scorpion is pretty much a given, by the way. No one should be too concerned about him not being in the trailer.

[Reavant]

actually this might not be a reboot... I think this because scorpion is not in the trailer but shao kahn is fighting raiden. By the end of deception and Armageddon, scorpion became one of the most powerful characters in the game, so he might be a boss.

[Reavant]

in the trailer...

Sub Zero
Johnny Cage
Shao Kahn
Raiden
Mileena
Reptile
Nightwolf
Sector
Kung Lao

Kira shackled

[Fignuts]

Yeah, it's definitely not a reboot.

[Verbose Minch]

The only reason Mortal Kombat sells is because of nostalgia.

[Reavant]

and the characters are fuckin cool

[Reavant]

urgh apparently it is a complete reboot of the franchise

[Cooler Tom Schuler]

No Johnny Cage, no deal.

[Reavant]

hes in it

[Vietnamese Crippler]

Obvious someone decided not to watch the trailer.

[Funky Fly]

urgh apparently it is a complete reboot of the franchise

1. Source?

2. That's not so bad if they can reduce the amount of 90s cheese in the story. Been reading Witchblade lately and it took 10 years before it got kinda good. Fuck the 90s when it comes to comics and violent videogames.

[Reavant]

http://www.kamidogu.com/

Earlier today the Mortal Kombat team, now officially known as NetherRealm Studios, unveiled the first teaser trailer for the ninth game in the Mortal Kombat series titled Mortal Kombat. The game will be a series reboot, aiming to re-estabilish the franchise as a fresh and brutal fighter.

[ClockShot]

My man Kung Lao looks pretty nasty in this. But I always hated the Tablesaw fatality.

[BillyBonez]

They company needs to think about "What made MK so popular in the first place?" and develop it better to make MK popular enough.

The answer is VIOLENCE so they need to make this game more violent. Imagine how cool it would be if when fighting, u could rip body parts off your opponent but she would still keep going, like, u can lose, arms, feet, have holes in yo clothes and body and still fight until one character just crumbles into pieces.

Now that would establish MK again!

[Kalyx triaD]

Ed, is that you?

[#BROKEN Hasney]

They company needs to think about "What made MK so popular in the first place?" and develop it better to make MK popular enough.

The answer is VIOLENCE so they need to make this game more violent. Imagine how cool it would be if when fighting, u could rip body parts off your opponent but she would still keep going, like, u can lose, arms, feet, have holes in yo clothes and body and still fight until one character just crumbles into pieces.

Now that would establish MK again!



Worst idea I have ever heard in the history of tpww.net/forums .

This includes singledad661 deciding to upload his junk.

[BillyBonez]

Worst idea I have ever heard in the history of tpww.net/forums .

This includes singledad661 deciding to upload his junk.

Thanks for NOT contributing anything to the conversation! Not how about u explain whats so bad in my idea. BTW, I think if they made a MK game using my idea u'd be playing it all night long.

I dunno how u can say no to a game where u can rip ur opponent to pieces litraly as u fight unless ur some fat housewife or grandma lol

[Kalyx triaD]

I'm self aware enough to see you're a caricature of myself.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Thanks for NOT contributing anything to the conversation! Not how about u explain whats so bad in my idea. BTW, I think if they made a MK game using my idea u'd be playing it all night long.

I dunno how u can say no to a game where u can rip ur opponent to pieces litraly as u fight unless ur some fat housewife or grandma lol


Probably due to the lack of gameplay in the idea.

Plus the lack of masturbating to pointless violence since I'm not 11 years old. I was 8 when the first one came out, so it seemed kinda cool. Now it's just a snigger during fatalities, if backed up by gameplay (which is where the series has always lacked AND SHOULD BE WHERE THE FOCUS IS) then it will be alright.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

SIDE NOTE: I said "coooool" really loud after an announcement that a train was delayed due to fatality when I was 9, not knowing that it meant literal death. I thought someone had just finished a fight on the train tracks or something.

I was hit very hard.

[BillyBonez]

Probably due to the lack of gameplay in the idea.

Plus the lack of masturbating of pointless violence since I'm not 11 years old. I was 8 when the first one came out, so it seemed kinda cool. Now it's just a snigger during fatalities, if backed up by gameplay (which is where the series has always lacked AND SHOULD BE WHERE THE FOCUS IS) then it will be alright.

But bro thats part of the gameplay. Its not just pointless violence, if ur character has an arm ripped off he cant use it anymore, so u have to compromise and the more damage ur guy takes and the more hurt he is the slower he moves. If he gets his legs ripped off then he will have to fight crawling.

Come on thats something no fighting game done and will bring a new direction to gameplay. Like if a character has 6 arms like Kintaro or something, he will have an advantage due to having more arms cause even if one gets ripped off he still has more than u so u will need to pick a strategy of moves to rip his arms off first.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Fine, I'll bite.

How would you balance it?

[Vietnamese Crippler]

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/109/1098513p1.html

Glad to see the story is still pretty ridiculous.

[Funky Fly]

That article talks a big game, but I'm betting it's really no different than the last 4 games.

[D Mac]

They company needs to think about "What made MK so popular in the first place?" and develop it better to make MK popular enough.

The answer is VIOLENCE so they need to make this game more violent. Imagine how cool it would be if when fighting, u could rip body parts off your opponent but she would still keep going, like, u can lose, arms, feet, have holes in yo clothes and body and still fight until one character just crumbles into pieces.

Now that would establish MK again!



Looks like the new one is gonna be pretty bloody to me. Kung Lao dragging some poor fucker crotch first into his spinning hat blade? That's pretty fucking violent.

[Kalyx triaD]

LOL at Midway having the sense to regulate assists during tag team play with meter cost. Irony of the highest order.

[Kalyx triaD]

Some of these fatalities actually made me squirm. Some mean shit.

[Reavant]

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[Reavant]

oh yes...

[Innovator]

I'm self aware enough to see you're a caricature of myself.
YOU'RE SKYNET??!

[BigDaddyCool]

No, he is just a dork living with his mom.

[Reavant]

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[BigDaddyCool]

I love how fighting games where all you do it fight think they need story lines. But their story lines are easily the most conveluted, overly complex head scratchers ever. Why do you need a huge epic story for "A bunch of gods, monsters, and people wanted to have a fighting tournment." There, story done.

[Reavant]

Stop it

[BigDaddyCool]

Also, wasn't there already a fighting game that showed when your broke a dudes leg with a punch or something and did an exrteme x-ray veiw.

Still have fun with it. Don't let me ruin your game.

[Reavant]

Blitz the league did that

[D Mac]

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LOL SWEET

[D Mac]

Is the movie theme in this game? That would rule.

[Kalyx triaD]

No. But with custom soundtracks you can have the first movie's soundtrack booming.

[BigDaddyCool]

That sounds like a lot of extra work. They should have just done that DM said. I don't want to customize a sound track with songs that really should be in it.

[Funky Fly]

That video was bullshit. No gameplay, just fatalities. Not sold on this yet.

[BillyBonez]

Fine, I'll bite.

How would you balance it?

What do u mean?

U can still fight if some guy rips off ur arms by biting and kicking with ur feet and crawling on the ground, like u can bite they ankle off or something. I mean its MK not real life...

[Reavant]

shut up

[Jeritron]

I kinda hate storylines in fighting games. No thank you. I'm all set with just fighting. I would say the same thing about storylines in racing games, or any kind tournament type game like that.
I don't need a storyline in Mortal Kombat or Marvel vs Capcom anymore than I need one in Mario Kart.
I think there's a loose storyline in Smash Bros. too. Who cares? It's about having random characters fight eachother with friends.
I can get a story in an adventure game where it's far less forced.

[BillyBonez]

I kinda hate storylines in fighting games. No thank you. I'm all set with just fighting. I would say the same thing about storylines in racing games, or any kind tournament type game like that.
I don't need a storyline in Mortal Kombat or Marvel vs Capcom anymore than I need one in Mario Kart.
I think there's a loose storyline in Smash Bros. too. Who cares? It's about having random characters fight eachother with friends.
I can get a story in an adventure game where it's far less forced.

Storylines make it better tho and single player is pointless without storylines but then again nobody plays single player besides for practice anyway...

[Jeritron]

I'm saying that I don't think storylines make it better. Single player is not pointless without a storyline. You go through the characters in the game one by one, right up the ladder until you beat it.
The story is tremendously limited since it has to wrap itself around that format.
It's ultimately the arcade ladder-climb format regardless of an injected storyline, so why bother?

[Mr. Nerfect]

Also, wasn't there already a fighting game that showed when your broke a dudes leg with a punch or something and did an exrteme x-ray veiw.

Who cares? Wasn't there already a fighting game where they punch? Let's stop the presses.

Also, I can't get into fighting games without stories or good characters. Who am I playing as? Why? Why do I give a shit if I win or lose? Yeah, I'm not an ape. I'm close to it, but I like some method behind by violence, thank you. I don't have the attention span to give my time to a video game that is giving me nothing to think about back.

That attention span is probably Mortal Kombat's fault in the first place, but I digress.

[Mr. Nerfect]

That video was bullshit. No gameplay, just fatalities. Not sold on this yet.

I'm still weary. I'm more than likely going to get this game, just so that I have a fun fighter to chomp away a few hours with when bored regardless, but I'm not exactly expecting this to be a classic.

But everything they've given us so far has been indicative that they want to take the best elements of Mortal Kombat, and go back to them. The art-style, the characters, the special moves, etc. are all so familiar to anyone that played a MK game in the early to mid-nineties. They're introducing new gameplay modes that don't sound too offensive, either. Team Kombat could be a lot of fun, and this special bar isn't exactly the deepest tool, but it could be cool. The idea of souping-up your special moves is interesting.

[Jeritron]

I just view the genre differently then. I'm not worried about what the match means for the character or his/her traits.
I could care less about that aspect of it. I am playing to beat a friend or the computer and satisfy the competitive drive within me.
I will choose a character based on how good they are, not their backstory going into a 3 round slobberknocker.

I could care less why the worlds of Mortal Kombat and DC are coming together, or Marvel and Capcom, or various video game characters in Smash Bros.
I see it as them all being in the same game because it's a cool novelty that will please the masses, and as a result sell a lot of video games.

If people enjoy the storylines, that's fine but I personally don't see the need for them at all. Fighting/racing/sports games are a whole different thing to me than single player adventure games.

[Destor]

The mythology of mortal kombat is the selling point for me

[Jeritron]

I definitely get into the Mortal Kombat character archetypes and universe more. That's why I'd rather play MK and Street Fighter games more than any fighting game.
Because of their legacy and the world they populate. Sub Zero, Scorpion and the crew are just cooler.
In that respect, I enjoy the mythology but I'm not really interested in much of a storyline when I pop the games in.

[Funky Fly]

There are 4569874367 fighters that don't have much story. In fact, there are more fighters that have less than there are with more. Even still, 99% of the ones with deep story don't really require you to follow it. Just press start and skip right past that shit.

Check out the Guilty Gear series and see what I mean. There's a (fucked up) story, but you're really only playing for heavy metal bat shit crazy action.

[Khuntry]

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[Khuntry]

So far i'm really digging the presentation overall. The models look great (the insides and all that x-ray stuff), the stages look awesome too.

[BigDaddyCool]

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[BigDaddyCool]

Also, I always like making my own stories up as I went through.

[Reavant]

i got a boner watching that

[Kalyx triaD]

So far i'm really digging the presentation overall. The models look great (the insides and all that x-ray stuff), the stages look awesome too.

Can't even believe this is coming from you.

[Kalyx triaD]

Online tag mode accepting guests almost makes me wanna apologize for everything I said about Boon. Almost.

[Fignuts]

I definitely get into the Mortal Kombat character archetypes and universe more. That's why I'd rather play MK and Street Fighter games more than any fighting game.
Because of their legacy and the world they populate. Sub Zero, Scorpion and the crew are just cooler.
In that respect, I enjoy the mythology but I'm not really interested in much of a storyline when I pop the games in.

Super Street Fighter 4 has probably the worst story ever. You seriously don't even know why most of these people are fighting. For example, Abel finds a puppy, and that's his story. When you beat the game, he comes back and pets the puppy. That's it? Want to know why Gouken wasn't around all this time? HE WAS ASLEEP! That's seriously the best they could come up with for Ryu and Ken's master. He just took a really long nap.

Fucking retards.

[Fignuts]

"There is a lot more individuality between the characters, and every character has their own unique style."

This is the comment that stuck out the most to me. My biggest problem with mortal kombat is that all the characters felt the same in every game, from the original 2d games, to the newer 3d ones. If that comment isn't bullshit, and the characters really do have a unique feel to them, they might just have a really good fighter here.

Also, I'm loving the return of traditional fatalities, as well as the new x-ray moves.

[Fignuts]

Love the updated backrounds too. Nostagiaaaaaaaaaa

[BigDaddyCool]

"There is a lot more individuality between the characters, and every character has their own unique style."

This is the comment that stuck out the most to me. My biggest problem with mortal kombat is that all the characters felt the same in every game, from the original 2d games, to the newer 3d ones. If that comment isn't bullshit, and the characters really do have a unique feel to them, they might just have a really good fighter here.

Also, I'm loving the return of traditional fatalities, as well as the new x-ray moves.

Didn't the original games have everyone having the same basic move set then different special/finishing moves?

[Fignuts]

Yeah that's what I mean. The newer games are better, but they all still feel the same. There isn't any drastic difference in their play style like in street fighter or tekken.

[BigDaddyCool]

Which ever one had the weapons and 2 different fighting styles per person still had a lot of the same moves for everyone. I agree completely. Mortal Kombat has always been a cop out.

[D Mac]

Yep, I will be buying.

[Vietnamese Crippler]

Kung Lao's fatality put a smile on my face.

[Khuntry]

Can't even believe this is coming from you.

...I know, weird but that's what i honestly thought after watching that vid.
a huge step up. but the animations could use some work.

[Kalyx triaD]

They're trying so hard.

[Khuntry]

looks like its kinda working.

[Kalyx triaD]

Like I said, there's a trend with these fighters - expect it to continue. Though it's more tonally with this game (as with the games mentioned tonight played similarly). But the concept is the same: Optional Depth.

We'll riff about it later, forgot to mention it earlier.

[Funky Fly]

Like I said, there's a trend with these fighters - expect it to continue. Though it's more tonally with this game (as with the games mentioned tonight played similarly). But the concept is the same: Optional Depth.

We'll riff about it later, forgot to mention it earlier.

I hear that. Look at most of the fighters that have come out in the last 2 years (barring DLC rereleases, of course):

SoulCalibur IV. Great update to a great engine. I especially like that turtling can be punished with an instant fatality.

Street Fighter IV/Super Street Fighter IV. You can play this almost exactly like Street Fighter 2 and be fine, or you can take advantage of all the extra insanity the system has to offer.

BlazBlue. There's like 8 million different things going on in this shit, gameplaywise. No 2 characters are alike at all. It's no wonder there were only 13 on the roster. Crazy ass game.

Tekken 6. Tekken's always been a fucking deep series, with most characters having 100+ sized movelists. 40 playable characters. Not as much innovation to the mechanics this iteration (Rage system, Bound system, timed counters), but everyone got a ton of new moves. Plus Eddie and Christie finally have different movesets.

[Kalyx triaD]

A lot of what I like to call 'fighting game conservatives' piss and moan over the current design trends but most of them miss the point of videogames and often detest compromising with mechanics meant to be inclusive.

History favors progression. Very happy with these new fighters.

[Funky Fly]

I'd have put Battle Fantasia on the list, but it was really just a place holder till BlazBlue came out. Feels sorta incomplete.

[.44 Magdalene]

Not sure if anyone's posted it yet, but

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[Kalyx triaD]

I noticed Sub-Zero dashing in to Scorp at the top of the video; is running out? Running made MK3/4 fast but I guess we'll live without it.

[.44 Magdalene]

Some of the stuff--looking at you, Sektor--looks crisp and fast and fuck and OMGWANT. Some of it--hmm, Mr. Cage--looks a little sloppy. I'm sure this isn't anywhere near finished, though.

[Juan]

Can't wait to play this game

[Kalyx triaD]

In hindsight, Shadow-Kick is the lamest move ever. A sliding side kick? Really?

[Funky Fly]

BUT IT HAZ TEH SHADOWZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

[Kalyx triaD]

Actually, I don't think it's the sliding so much as him sliding with the one frame of animation. Ugh.

[Funky Fly]

Still, not looking like anything's changed except that it's easier to custom combo (the dial a combos got so ridic in mk)

[.44 Magdalene]

Come on, that's gotta be hard. It's like moonwalking to the extreme, and with only one foot.

[Kalyx triaD]

This game drops alongside MvC3. Lord help them. They should come out aggressive with a 50/40$ price tag.

[Funky Fly]

SOEMTIMEZ TEH SHADOWZ IZ RED!

[.44 Magdalene]

This game drops alongside MvC3. Lord help them. They should push the release date back because LOL

[Blitz]

Didn't see it posted:

We're also talking about a new take on the series' story. "Mortal Kombat has this timeline - eighteen years of making games, and we really didn't want to just continue, like, chapter seventeen of the whole story," says Ed Boon, the co-creator of the series. "So we're kind of doing a Back to the Future type of thing, where Raiden is about to be killed by Shao Kahn, and just before he delivers the last blow, he sends a mental message to his earlier self, so the camera rewinds back to Mortal Kombat 1. The Raiden from back then gets a message and he doesn't know what's going on, but he knows something bad's going to happen, and the game spans Mortal Kombat 1, 2 and 3, retelling the story with an enlightened Raiden, and he's changing the course of things, so everything you've seen happen before – Liu Kang winning, the guys turning into cybernetic ninjas, are changed around, so you might see a character become cybernetic who wasn't before, and so you see a different version [of events]."
Interesting concept. I like.

[Jeritron]

Nightwolf looks incredible

[Vietnamese Crippler]

Didn't see it posted:


Interesting concept. I like.

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/109/1098513p1.html

Glad to see the story is still pretty ridiculous.

:wave:

[.44 Magdalene]

They could have cleaned up alot of shit and started the story fresh after Armageddon, but I guess they're pretty much just paying Boon to be a nutjob at this point.

[Reavant]

i saw another interview where he said they are starting right after armageddon, but he then goes back to say all the same things blitz posted

[AKin3D]

For the most part I don't have any problems with the reboot. I had a feeling that it was going to happen, just from how they ended Armageddon. The only thing I have a problem/worry I have is with them messing with the cybernetic ninjas. The Lin Kuei CN storyline was one of my personal favorites and also this means they're 99% totally fuck up Noob and Smoke.

[Reavant]

no i bet noob will still be the old sub zero

[Fignuts]

no i bet noob will still be the old sub zero

That depends on what point in the MK timeline it goes back to. If it goes back to the first MK, then Noob won't even be in it, as the original Sub-zero is still alive.

[AKin3D]

no i bet noob will still be the old sub zero

Yeah, I didn't say he wasn't going to be Sub-Zero, but things still could change. I was more musing the fact that they'll most likely killing off the Noob-Smoke partnership.


That depends on what point in the MK time line it goes back to. If it goes back to the first MK, then Noob won't even be in it, as the original Sub-zero is still alive.

Sub-Zero will still be alive (unless he got captures or willingly became a cybernetic ninja). No telling what they've come up with since it's going to effect story lines from 1, 2, & 3.


I also wouldn't be surprised if Cyrax stays human, and we don't get his feud with Reptile.

[G]

Will someone please explain the Noob-Sub Zero story please.

[AKin3D]

Will someone please explain the Noob-Sub Zero story please.

The story of Sub-Zero turning into Noob Saibot is: Sub-Zero dies at the hands of Scorpion. He became a wraith, ends up working for Shinnok and Quan Chi, who took him as a member of the Brotherhood of the Shadow. He chills and becomes more powerful.

Everything else http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noob_Saibot

[alvarado52]

In hindsight, Shadow-Kick is the lamest move ever. A sliding side kick? Really?

Cody has a sliding side kick in SSF4.

[Kalyx triaD]

And that's not lame to you?

[Fignuts]

It is without shadows.

[Funky Fly]

And that's not lame to you?

It's also a sliding axe kick and a sliding trip depending on kick strength. Surprisingly more useful. :eek:

[alvarado52]

And that's not lame to you?

not anymore lame than Blanka and Hakan sliding

[Reavant]

Yeah, I didn't say he wasn't going to be Sub-Zero, but things still could change. I was more musing the fact that they'll most likely killing off the Noob-Smoke partnership.




Sub-Zero will still be alive (unless he got captures or willingly became a cybernetic ninja). No telling what they've come up with since it's going to effect story lines from 1, 2, & 3.


I also wouldn't be surprised if Cyrax stays human, and we don't get his feud with Reptile.

Apparently sub zero and smoke were good friends before smoke was turned into a robot. However I think it was the second sub zero and smoke that were good friends, but maybe it was both. So either was, you will see smoke teamed with either sub zero or noob if he is in the game.

well cyrax vs reptile didnt happen until DA/5 so this wouldnt be a possibility anyway.

[Kalyx triaD]

not anymore lame than Blanka and Hakan sliding

Those are naturally sliding attacks. I'm talking about a sliding side kick. Just dumb.

[Juan]

Out of all the ridiculous things in this series, you think the sliding kick is dumb?

[Kalyx triaD]

It's a fucking sliding kick. Bicycle kicks and sharp hats I can live with.

[Skippord]

Yeah, a sliding kick totally ruins the realism everyone loves so much about Mortal Kombat

[.44 Magdalene]

I don't think it's about how unrealistic it is, rather how bland and/or lame it is

[Kalyx triaD]

Fucking thank you.

[Skippord]

gonna sliding kick both of you in the face

[Juan]

Seems like a silly thing to get "hung up" on

[Kalyx triaD]

I have a laundry list of gripes with the series, I just wanted to point out the silliness that is the Shadow Kick.

[alvarado52]

MK isnt hardcore enough for Kalyx

[Kalyx triaD]

You've no idea how accurate a statement that is.

[Funky Fly]

Mortal Kombat = failburgers in general

Honestly, shitty engine, 90s "badass" designs, no real attempt to improve since Deadly Alliance. You can't blame Kalyx, really.

Just a lackluster series going off "Japanese style storytelling" AKA no real story at all until it gets retconned in in the next game.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Mortal Kombat = failburgers in general

Honestly, shitty engine, 90s "badass" designs, no real attempt to improve since Deadly Alliance. You can't blame Kalyx, really.

Just a lackluster series going off "Japanese style storytelling" AKA no real story at all until it gets retconned in in the next game.

Yeah, when 2 of your characters are based off glitches, you know there's stupidity abound.

[Funky Fly]

One's Ermac, who's the other?

[G]

whats the ermac glitch

[DaveBrawl]

Everybody leave Johnny Cage alone. :mad:

[#BROKEN Hasney]

I thought Noob was a glitch in MK2, not an actual secret, my bad.

Ermac is more of an April Fools I think, but the rumour was that sometimes Scorpion would be in red with the error message "Ermac" in the life bar.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

In the first few arcade versions of Mortal Kombat, there was a listing in the audit menu for "ERMACS". In Revision 3.0 it was actually listed directly underneath "Reptile Battles" giving the appearance that they were grouped together. It was believed to reference a character the same way "Reptile Battles" does which led people to believe that Ermac was also a secret character. The Ermac listing is a shortening of the term "Error Macro". This is referenced in a hidden reversed message in Mortal Kombat: Deception's Konquest mode which states "It is a little known fact that Ermac is short for Error Macro". Electronic Gaming Monthly published a photo to accompany a letter from Tony Casey reporting an alleged encounter.[1] However, Ermac did not appear in any version. There is also no naturally occurring default character palette that would provide a full pallette swap for Ermac.
The MK crew denied that he existed in Mortal Kombat II with one of the jumbled messages that appeared at the bottom of the screen after beating the game: CEAMR ODSE NTO EXITS (an anagram of "Ermac does not exist"), and the occasional appearance of the secret character Jade with the message "Ermac Who?" The numerous rumors of his existence led to his debut as an official character in Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3. His storyline is even based off his own rumor as well and later changed to become a legit character in Mortal Kombat Trilogy. Until Mortal Kombat: Deception, he was just another palette swapped ninja. Around the time of Mortal Kombat: Deadly Alliance, the creators made the choice to give all the ninjas their own look and identity.

[Fignuts]

Just a lackluster series going off "Japanese style storytelling" AKA no real story at all until it gets retconned in in the next game.

What? Mortal Kombat had more story than all the other jap fighting games combined. And it actually makes sense, to boot.

[.44 Magdalene]

than all the other jap fighting games combined

http://sheep319.com/blog/images/july09/this-rage-feeling/blazblue_logo.jpg

[Kalyx triaD]

Blazblue is so much better than Mortal Kombat it wouldn't be fair to compare.

[alvarado52]

omfg will you 'fighting game buffs' please stfu already...yeah yeah every japanese fighting game gives you a hard on and is super balanced, etc etc etc.

Nobody here has argued that MK is the most balanced fighting game ever, the only thing people has said is that its 'fun' and 'nostalgic'.

Shut. Up.

[Kalyx triaD]

QQ

[alvarado52]

QQ

would you? Please?

[Juan]

omfg will you 'fighting game buffs' please stfu already...yeah yeah every japanese fighting game gives you a hard on and is super balanced, etc etc etc.

Nobody here has argued that MK is the most balanced fighting game ever, the only thing people has said is that its 'fun' and 'nostalgic'.

Shut. Up.

word

[.44 Magdalene]

I wasn't referring to the balance at all, I was responding to the story thing. Fignuts brought up Japanese games, I just offered my retort.

Jesus, get all offended.

[Verbose Minch]

Kalyx, shouldn't you be writing eight page summaries about the balance in MvC3 right now?

[Kalyx triaD]

Ok seriously; Mortal Kombat is fun, oldschool, decent mythology, and all that fluffy shit - but it is a fighting game. And if it wants to be respected as such it needs to accept criticism from fighting gamers. From what's been shown it seem Mortal Kombat's making a komeback, but our 'series wide' perspective is on the money. MK's been the bottom of the heep and I don't give points because Scorpion still screams "Get over here!"

The new MK seems to be what it is because of guys like me and .44, as explained by Boon himself.

[Juan]

The new MK seems to be what it is because of guys like me and .44, as explained by Boon himself.

Yet you keep bitching about it...

[Kalyx triaD]

Kalyx, shouldn't you be writing eight page summaries about the balance in MvC3 right now?

I'd very much like to but a) the game isn't out yet so I've only detailed the Exchange Counter system (found in the thread, read now) and b) my old essays on entire mechanics will be limited these days anyway because b.1) you guys aren't worth the trouble and b.2) my efforts on the matter are currently shifted to something else...

HINT HINT FUCKERS

[Verbose Minch]

I think Ed Boon raped Kaylx as a child, and that's why he harbors such a hatred towards MK.

[Kalyx triaD]

Yet you keep bitching about it...

I've said nice things about this game. Are you reading the thread?

[Kalyx triaD]

I think Ed k.Boon raped Kaylx as a child, and that's why he harbors such a hatred towards MK.

Ed Boon is a videogame terrorist. Look at his eyebrows.

[Verbose Minch]

Ed Boon is a videogame terrorist. Look at his eyebrows.

What's sad is that it's true.

Ed Boon has huge eye brows.

[Kalyx triaD]

http://www.edge-online.com/files/boon_ed.jpg

[Kalyx triaD]

He should be terrorizing Claire Bennet.

[Jeritron]

Thank you for making MK better for us Jean Kalyx. I appreciate your accomplishments

[Verbose Minch]

Those are on par with Martin Scorceses (SP?) eyebrows.

[Juan]

I've said nice things about this game. Are you reading the thread?

Yeah, I read the whole page where you bitched about fucking sliding kick

[.44 Magdalene]

And the sliding kicks were obviously a deep, serious criticism that you had with the series

[.44 Magdalene]

Why do you fucking hate Mortal Kombat so much, Kalyx? Why can't you just leave the sliding kicks alone?

[Juan]

Thanks for your take

[Kalyx triaD]

Not the Shadow Kick that's been in since MK1. Surely Kalyx hates the new game because of something that was around before it.

'That about right?

If I hated on something exclusive to this game in the series you'd have a case but I don't have to like old shit to like the new game. Jesus.

[Juan]

I never said you hated it. Are you reading the thread?

[Kalyx triaD]

So change it to whatever fits, the point stands. Shadow Kick sucks; I like the new MK.

Wrap your head around it.

[.44 Magdalene]

Splitting hairs vs refuting argument

[Kalyx triaD]

Splitting hairs vs refuting argument

We're on some next level shit, now.

[Verbose Minch]

So Kalyx, the reason you hate the kick is because of the animation for it?

[.44 Magdalene]

I think it's more the lack of an animation for it.

He just sorta stands there with his leg out. ...And then he slides.

[Skippord]

Ed Boon is a videogame terrorist. Look at his eyebrows.

http://www.edge-online.com/files/boon_ed.jpg
or alternatively, video game Peter Gallagher

[Verbose Minch]

I think it's more the lack of an animation for it.

He just sorta stands there with his leg out. ...And then he slides.

Thanks Kalyx.

Oh wait.

[.44 Magdalene]

I did throw an "I think" in there.

I mean, that's what I gathered from the discussion that we already had, and is still readable earlier in the thread etc.

[Verbose Minch]

I just found it interesting that one move out of the hundreds in the game is such a big deal to him.

[.44 Magdalene]

In fact,

Actually, I don't think it's the sliding so much as him sliding with the one frame of animation. Ugh.

My God, he answered the question before it was asked. ...!

[.44 Magdalene]

He didn't actually make that big of a deal about it, either, people just keep giving him shit over it. When a guy routinely does 500+ word articles over game mechanics across multiple forums, I don't think one sentence of "that was lame" is a "big deal."

[Kalyx triaD]

I hate the idea of sliding one frame across the floor, that's mostly it. I understand the idea of a ground, pressure move that moves the character forward (though you really shouldn't give that to a character with two projectiles but MK gets to slide on this).

50% of my beef with the series is the animation, particularly the short-cuts and half-assed recovery animations - that 'freeze frame' deal they had going on. Oddly enough their damaged animations are fluid; arms and legs flailing in the air, slipping on the ground, stumbling all dizzy after a hit, etc. They just go to sleep with the attack animations.

[Verbose Minch]

Must have missed that.

MY BAD

[Verbose Minch]

I hate the idea of sliding one frame across the floor, that's mostly it. I understand the idea of a ground, pressure move that moves the character forward (though you really shouldn't give that to a character with two projectiles but MK gets to slide on this).

50% of my beef with the series is the animation, particularly the short-cuts and half-assed recovery animations - that 'freeze frame' deal they had going on. Oddly enough their damaged animations are fluid; arms and legs flailing in the air, slipping on the ground, stumbling all dizzy after a hit, etc. They just go to sleep with the attack animations.

I agree with that.

Mortal Kombat would look so much better without sloppy animation.

[Reavant]

I like the way that MK developed the stories of some of the characters and how they spread it out through the entire series of games. I especially like how they used and developed noob saibot from mk2 all the way through to deception where you find out hes actually the old sub zero. On top of the whole MK mythologies shit they did with him.

I dont like how they kept having liu kang winning every game, but i loved it when they killed him.

[Kalyx triaD]

Liu only ever won the first tourny, I believe Kung Lao won the MK2 tournament. MK3 was an invasion due to Khan's sore loser disposition.

[Reavant]

no... liu won them all. in shaolin monks i guess you could say kung lao and lui won it simultaneously which was mk2 i guess but whatever.

MK4 said he beat kahn and DA basically went on to say he stopped shinnok

[Funky Fly]

Liu Cena in the building

[.44 Magdalene]

Shaolin Monks sort of contradicts canon all over the place, though.

[Funky Fly]

You know, I don't hate MK, I just feel like they miss the mark far too often.

[Dorkchop]

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[Reavant]

Shaolin Monks sort of contradicts canon all over the place, though.

the only times it really contradicted canon was when it let you play as scorpion and sub zero, or when it lets you kill certain characters, but how many times have certain guys been killed and come back to life? so it doesnt matter there.

[Funky Fly]

Why is that video so god damn huge?

[Juan]

because Dorkchop sucks at embedding.

[Funky Fly]

I took care of it.

[Dorkchop]

because Dorkchop sucks at embedding.
OR MAYBE SOMEONE DID IT ON PURPOSE AND EXPLAINED IT IN CAPS.

DO NOT EDIT MY ART, FREAK DADDY FLY

[Kalyx triaD]

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[Vietnamese Crippler]

God, I love Kung Lao's Fatality.

[Kalyx triaD]

He's a sadistic monk.

[Emperor Smeat]

Since they are making Mortal Kombat again, would be nice if they included some of those concept sketches from the canceled game as character appearances.

http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/3859/scorpionunusedconecptar.jpg

[Kalyx triaD]

Lil late for that.

[Funky Fly]

Alternate costumes. How hard is that?

[Kalyx triaD]

MK's done that before but I doubt they'll use that guy's art.

[Funky Fly]

They may as well. It'd be a nice tip of the hat to long time hardcore fans.

[Kalyx triaD]

They're certainly doing that as it is. I like the designs, though.

[Kalyx triaD]

http://www.gamereactor.eu/media/14/moremortalkombat_221407b.jpg?sid=2d6c5f78c7b2231c1f9fe4929eef7063
http://www.gamereactor.eu/media/14/moremortalkombat_221408b.jpg?sid=2d6c5f78c7b2231c1f9fe4929eef7063
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[DaveBrawl]

Looks really good.

[Kalyx triaD]

Boon said at Gamescom this week that the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 fighting game has software "hooks" built into it that will reduce the need for post-launch updates that users will be required to download.

"The past few games, we've had some exploits that we thought 'We'd really like to fix that,'" Boon said in an interview with Kotaku. "With the introduction of online, imbalances become very publicly exploited. You can fix them with patches—and every game has their really powerful characters, like Sagat in Street Fighter IV."

The MK team's last game, Mortal Kombat vs. DC Universe, suffered from that very problem. The game's Superman had a combo that could be chained together infinitely—a frustrating exploit.

"Everybody wants to ship the perfectly balanced game, but when it has been played for six months and beat on by everybody, players are going to find its weaknesses," Boon said. "We're actually putting stuff in the game that lets us 'turn knobs' after the [game ships]. We have knobs that we can turn to further tweak the game once we know everyone has been bashing on it.

"I mean, we can't add a special move, but we can slow a projectile down or speed a projectile up or tweak the damage, just to kind of fine tune it after the fact."

One of the Mortal Kombat team's other post-launch plans calls for "aggressive" downloadable content. Since the 2011 Mortal Kombat will be comprised largely (if not exclusively) of characters from the original 1992 Mortal Kombat, Mortal Kombat II and Mortal Kombat 3, don't expect too many new faces. Those three games "really defined the vast majority of the characters that were going to be in it," Boon says.

"We know we're going to be really aggressive with the DLC," he says. "That's a great opportunity for either a brand new character that nobody's ever seen before or bringing back a character that was in MK4 or later.

"That's how we're going to introduce more characters. They're not going to be on the disc and you'll unlock it or something. You'll actually download the data."

"The big challenge is getting the DLC characters to people who didn't buy them," Boon says, addressing the potential problem of splitting the online playerbase into DLC haves and have-nots. Given that the MK team plans on offering downloadable fighters a la carte, it's a thorny problem.

"We're going to need a patch or some kind of delivery method—and we're still trying to solve it," Boon says. "One option is a free character that everybody gets and get you all the purchasable ones too. If you download a free version of Raiden or whoever, you'll get everything." Other options include offering free fatalities or environments, but it sounds like Boon is leaning toward giving away at least some combatants as part of their DLC solution.

Boon says that the Mortal Kombat team may also follow in Street Fighter IV's footsteps and will think about releasing a version of the game for the PC.

"We're definitely considering it," Boon says. "I've thought 'How many fighting game players are PC guys?' Apparently there seems to be a market for that in Europe. Since we're on the Unreal Engine, I guess it's not that much of a change from the console versions." Those plans definitely sound like they're open to change, as publisher Warner Bros. has only announced Mortal Kombat for consoles.

[Kalyx triaD]

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[Fignuts]

Cyrax is badass

[Drakul]

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[Kalyx triaD]

They haven't been depicted as rivals since part 2.

[Fignuts]

Well it takes place in the past, so it makes sense.

[Kalyx triaD]

Wait... This game's a prequel?

[Vietnamese Crippler]

Retelling of MK 1, 2, 3.

[Fignuts]

Time travel is involved, so it is sure to be awful.

[Kalyx triaD]

wtf

[BigDaddyCool]

Seriously, how did you not know that? I haven't been following this game (all that much) and I knew that.

[Kalyx triaD]

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/kotaku/2010/10/jax_mortal_kombat.jpg

[dronepool]

Seriously, how did you not know that? I haven't been following this game (all that much) and I knew that.

Time travel? I had no idea either. I figured it was just a random Mortal Kombat. To be honest I didn't read jack shit about it besides watching that one video from a months back.

[Kalyx triaD]

http://www.fightersgeneration.com/np6/mk9-leak.jpg

Do this companies bother keeping things hidden anymore? Might as well reveal the whole roster for a fighting game the day after it's announced.

[Funky Fly]

Well, they said some characters changed up because of the time travel. There may be some fucked up shit yet to come.

[Fignuts]

Always liked Ermac.

[Emperor Smeat]

I think its more of like a Street Fighter where everyone expects the regular cast to be in it so no real need to worry about the roster being revealed if its mostly old time characters in the series.

Now if they started to reveal all the new specific character stories or designs then it could be an issue.

[Reavant]

ermac has history all the way back to mk1 and had a cult following in terms of everyone thinking he was a character when he was really a glitch

[Drakul]

Well, they said some characters changed up because of the time travel. There may be some fucked up shit yet to come.

Actually, on the UK "Inside Xbox" they spoke to Ed Boon and the story isn't actually about time travel.
At the end of MK: Armageddon, Shang Tsung was about to kill Raiden and rule all the realms.
Raiden used the last of his energy/powers to send visions etc of what was going to happen back to his MK1 self so he could do things differently to prevent Shang Tsung ultimately winning.

[Funky Fly]

Same shit. You fuck with time, and everything goes to hell.

[Kalyx triaD]

Sonya's render:

http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/1066/cdsi.jpg

[Funky Fly]

What's with the weird shit in the character select screen?

[Kalyx triaD]

Some stupid magazine cover in some other country. But the Sonya render is official.

[Kalyx triaD]

More Sonya:

http://www.fightersgeneration.com/np6/mk9sonya3.jpg
http://www.fightersgeneration.com/np6/mk9sonya2.jpg

[D Mac]

Can't...fucking...wait

[Kalyx triaD]

News just broke that the Playstation 3 version of Mortal Kombat 9 will contain a playable guest character. Kratos, from God of War, will be ripping heads off alongside the typical MK warriors. The report mentions that he will not have any single player story mode content, but will be fully functioning in VS mode.