Ghostbusters or Ninja Turtles?

[Jeritron]

Let's settle this once and for all.

Which retro fab four takes the cake?


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vs


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Things to think about:
-The films
-The original cartoons
-The reboot cartoons
-The toys
-The videogames
-The children

[Xero]

No question. Ghostbusters.

[Cool King]

No question. Turtles.

[Jeritron]

Interesting points

[Kalyx triaD]

Let's see... a ghost hunting crew that's essentially a comedic analogy of working men being important to society, or giant turtles who were initially badass but then tailored to sell lunchboxes by the billions...

Gonna go with Mummies Alive!.

[Jeritron]

http://www.secondvarietydvd.com/store/images/ghost_art.gif
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51IWSkV1mWL._.jpg

[Kalyx triaD]

Let's hear it for hip reboots.

[Jeritron]

Let's hear it for throwing in a chick and making it a fab five

[Cool King]

Interesting points

I was never really a Ghostbusters fan as a kid.

I was, however, a huge Ninja Turtles fan.

-The films
-The original cartoons
-The reboot cartoons
-The toys
-The videogames
-The children

All of the Ninja Turtles versions are just generally better in my opinion. Especially the Original Cartoons and The Videogames. The Toys were pretty kick-ass and inventive also.

[Jeritron]

I actually kind of liked Extreme Ghostbusters. The new cast wasn't exactly great, especially how over the top PC it was. Still, it had a tone that was pretty consistent with the original. Keeping Egon and Slimer around obviously helped.
I remember when the original cast returned for a major episode. That was great.

[Lock Jaw]

Things to think about:

-The films: Ghostbusters and Ghostbusters II are probably better films than the Ninja Turtles films. However, the first two Turtles films probably played a bigger part in my childhood and hold greater nostalgic value for me. The third Turtles film I barely remember, and I never saw the newest one.

-The original cartoons: No contest here. Loved the Ghostbusters, but they were no Ninja Turtles.

-The reboot cartoons: Never really watched any reboot cartoons. Saw a few episodes of the modern TMNT series, and it seemed pretty good.

-The toys: No doubt about it, Ninja Turtles had this one as well.

-The videogames: I think the only Ghostbusters game I ever played was Ghostbuster II for the PC and it was pretty much impossible to beat. I still loved to play it as a kid though. Turtles wins this one too though. "Who turned out the lights" - 'Nuff said

-The children: Not sure what this means.


So, Final Verdict: Ninja Turtles easily wins in every aspect except for the films.

[VSG]

No question. Ghostbusters.

[Jeritron]

-The children: Not sure what this means.


http://blog.mattalgren.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/think-of-the-children.jpg

[Lock Jaw]

Thinking of the children, I would want to expose my children to the original Ninja Turtles cartoon as soon as possible so that they can learn the fundamentals of kung-fu fighting and the nutritious deliciousness of pizza.

[Jeritron]

I'm voting overall, and not really using this criteria. I figured I'd do it up though since other people were


-The films: Easily Ghostbusters. I do love the first Ninja Turtles movie, but Ghostbusters by far.
-The original cartoons- Probably a tie

-The reboot cartoons- I liked Extreme Ghostbusters well enough. The new Ninja Turtles seems good but was past my time. I'll give TMNT benefit of the doubt and call this a tie.

-The toys- Ninja Turtles wins this. Ghostbusters toys were no slouch, but the Ninja Turtles toy line was pretty incredible.

-The videogames- Ninja Turtles probably had this locked up until recently. The TMNT and Ghostbusters game on NES were all pretty awful. Ninja Turtles had the awesome beat em up arcade games though.
The Ghostbusters video game that came out last year was so incredible that I have to award them the points.

-The children- I liked Ghostbusters more as a kid, and I like them more as an adult.

[Jeritron]

Thinking of the children, I would want to expose my children to the original Ninja Turtles cartoon as soon as possible so that they can learn the fundamentals of kung-fu fighting and the nutritious deliciousness of pizza.

Ghostbusters is a good way to get them to shut the fuck about ghosts and monsters in their closet

[Jeritron]

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Underrated game

[Jeritron]

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Amazing game.

[Xero]

I was never really "into" the Turtles as a kid. Sure, I saw the movies, watched the cartoon sometimes and had a few toys, but I always preferred the Ghostbusters franchise. I actually didn't have any Ghostbusters toys, though I had the NES games.

The Turtles' games are easily superior to any and all Ghostbusters games, outside of the current gen one, which is easily the best movie-based video game ever made.

Even taking everything into account and taking my personal bias out of the equation, I think the Ghostbusters win on the first movie alone.

[thedamndest]

Turtles would have won this hands down as a kid. Now Ghostbusters wins because the films are the only thing that I would factor into my decision. I'm going to vote for TMNT because I think overall in my life I spent more time playing with or watching Turtle-related things than Ghostbuster things.

[Swiss Ultimate]

Movies
Ghostbusters > Turtles

Cartoons
Turtles > Ghostbusters

Comics
Ghostbusters > Turtles

Videogames
Turtles > Ghostbusters

[Ermaximus]

-The films
Ghostbusters 1=:y:
Ghostbusters 2=:y:

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles=:y:
TMNT 2: Secret of the Ooze=:y:
TMNT 3=:n:

Winner=Ghostbusters, because they didn't make a lesser 3rd movie, yet.

-The original cartoons
Ghostbusters was a great cartoon while growing up, but there's only so much you can do with the "paranormal" and what have you.

TMNT was just amazing. It caught me from the start and kept me hooked for years on end. Granted it's harder to find the original TMNT cartoon on dvd than it is Ghostbusters, it still takes the cake.

Winner=TMNT

-The reboot cartoons
WARNING INCOMING GAME??

-The toys
Ghostbusters had some fun toys. The PKE meter, the proton pack, the firehouse playset, but as far as characters went, it was kind of limited.

TMNT had a shit ton of toys. Every turtle had at least 20-30 variations whether it was beach squirters, undercover, transforming cars, movie stars, wind'em up action, mutating, past warriors, or what have you. Plus they had tons of supporting characters to go with it. Also, Usagi Yojimbo=fucking win!

Winner=TMNT

-The videogames
Ghostbusters on the NES was a real bitch, but the game that came out last year on next gen was just brilliance IMO. Even if the multiplayer is dead as shit and the game is glitched to where you can't get all the most wanted ghosts, I absolutely love that game.

TMNT on the NES was a pain in the dick. Those damned underwater bombs were bullshit. However, Turtles in Time (the snes version not that xbla shit), TMNT 1989 Arcade, and TMNT Tournament Fighters were just badass.
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Winner=Push

So clearly I'd have to say TMNT was the better 4-some.

[Lock Jaw]

http://images.boardgamegeek.com/images/pic217188_md.jpg

:y:

[Jeritron]

http://blogs.houstonpress.com/eating/ecto-cooler-slimer-hi-c.jpg

[Gonzo]

The first Ninja Turtles movie is probably my favorite all time. The turtles are inherently awesome, and the movie had a gritty feeling to it that I think they moved away from in the second and third movies. The first film had a nice blend of comedy and bad assness to the turtles. Ghostbusters is a classic flick in its own right, but turtles hands down.

Huge fan of the turtles cartoon growing up, toys, etc. Love them. Turtles ftw.

[Gonzo]

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[Jeritron]

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[Gonzo]

Fucking want to spit when Shredder says Splinter is dead. Fucking 3:00 minute mark. FUCKING SPIT.

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[Jeritron]

That music from the fight is my favorite part of the movie

[Gonzo]

I was just saying that to my brother actually.

[Jeritron]

I can't deny that the first Ninja Turtles movie is a gem. A bit underrated I'd even say. Still, Ghostbusters is so classic that I have to give it the nod.
For whatever reason I was more often drawn to the Ghostbusters too

[Jeritron]

Let's see... a ghost hunting crew that's essentially a comedic analogy of working men being important to society, or giant turtles who were initially badass but then tailored to sell lunchboxes by the billions...

Gonna go with Mummies Alive!.

So what is your vote for? Power Rangers?

[Xero]

http://images.boardgamegeek.com/images/pic217188_md.jpg

:y:
lol I had that.

[alvarado52]

No question. Ghostbusters.

[Lock Jaw]

Fucking want to spit when Shredder says Splinter is dead. Fucking 3:00 minute mark. FUCKING SPIT.

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I always liked how casually Casey Jones decided to commit murder at the end of that. "Oops."

[alvarado52]

also, as an owner of the Ghostbusters Ecto 1 and House with the roof you could poor slime from, i'd say the Ghostbusters had the better toyline.

edit: http://www.stufffromthe80s.co.uk/images/ghostbusters-hq.jpg
http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/ghostbustersprotonpack.jpg
http://80stoyshop.com/images/categories/ghostbusters.jpg

[alvarado52]

and i never seen these, but theyre sick

http://images.sneakernews.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/bape-ghostbusters-bapesta-01.jpg

[alvarado52]

oh, and i forgot about the cereal

http://ps3.kombo.com/images/content/news/blurb_ghostbusters-cereal-41009_20081030.jpg

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[Ermaximus]

http://www.blast-o-rama.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Teenage_Mutant_Ninja_Turtles_Krang_Costume-Hoodie.jpg
http://media.80stees.com/images/products/Teenage_Mutant_Ninja_Turtles_Shredder_Costume-Hoodie.jpg
http://www.myairshoes.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/custom-air-max-90-raphael-ninja-turtle-shoes-3.jpg

Willing to bet Tb1 has/had these.
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[thedamndest]

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Look at those costumes! I love this place!

[Lock Jaw]

http://www.blast-o-rama.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Teenage_Mutant_Ninja_Turtles_Krang_Costume-Hoodie.jpg

Wooow, I want that so bad.

[alvarado52]

thats pretty sick

[VSG]

I was also a closet Janine fan, in more ways than one :lol:

[XCaliber]

This is such a close call I'm afraid I can't vote for it doesn't help that their media origins are complete opposites and came out in very different stages of my life for that matter.

[Emperor Smeat]

I was a bigger TMNT fan than Ghostbusters fan as a kid. Ghostbusters had the better films but I loved the TMNT cartoon, video games (NES and arcade), and toys.

I might of even had a TMNT lunchbox as a kid but at the same time I ended up having a bunch of cartoon/gaming related lunchboxes.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

I can not vote in this one. They are equals in my mind and in my heart.

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

I liked Ninja Turtles more than Ghostbusters, I do love the first Ghostbusters movie but including games/toys/old cartoon, Turtles wins out.

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Shredder's Suite
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[The Jayman]

I am a huge Ghostbusters fan. Always have been, always will be. I did like the TMNT b/c my brother was a huge fan. I watched the first 2 turtles movies and played the games. I will take a proton pack and ghost trap over katanas and nunchucks anyday.

[Stickman]

I can not vote in this one. They are equals in my mind and in my heart.

[parkmania]

Movies: Ghostbusters
Original cartoon: Pretty sure Ghostbusters was a Saturday morning cartoon, while TMNT was a weekday afternoon show, so everything else being equal, Turtles gets the nod based on volume.
New cartoon: No idea. Haven't seen either of them.
Toys: Ghostbusters. Slime FTW.
Video games: Turtles (although I haven't played the new GB game)
Societal impact: Turtles

[parkmania]

Willing to bet Tb1 has/had these.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_uv-qYn_b7YQ/SYPCNXz0rTI/AAAAAAAAAY4/d9qavQkBY-0/s400/Star+Trek+Turtles.png

Dunno about tb1, but I definitely had them. Not sure if I still do or not, but if I do, they're still in their packages.

[ORANGE-LOCKE]

Though I loved the turtles as a child, i got up early on Saturday mornings for The Real Ghostbusters... In my opinion, Ghostbusters had the tools and the talent....

http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mcellis/Eden/gbwinston.jpg

...and if you havent noticed...He "loves this town..."

[ORANGE-LOCKE]

also, as an owner of the Ghostbusters Ecto 1 and House with the roof you could poor slime from, i'd say the Ghostbusters had the better toyline.

edit: http://www.stufffromthe80s.co.uk/images/ghostbusters-hq.jpg
http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/ghostbustersprotonpack.jpg
http://80stoyshop.com/images/categories/ghostbusters.jpg

straight bad ass!!!! :y::y::y:

Every child needs a proton pack

[Xero]

http://www.stufffromthe80s.co.uk/images/ghostbusters-hq.jpg
After seeing this in action I have to assume that it was a bitch to clean up.

[Jeritron]

Neither line had a shortage on slime products

[Lock Jaw]

I never got the attraction of slime. The only slime thing I had was some ninja turtles vehicle thing. I used the slime like... once and it got ruined and I was just "Great. What now?" even as a kid.

[Jeritron]

I always loved slime, but it definitely had a short lifespan. As soon as it touched the floor it was forever ruined

I was a big fan of Nickelodeon Gak and related products, as well as the Ghostbusters and Ninja Turtles tie ins.

[Xero]

lol I loved Gak.

But yeah, once it touched the floor it was ruined.

[wwe2222]

Original cartoon: Season 1 of GB was probably the best group of episodes between both shows, but then they changed Venkman to Dave Coulier and made Slimer the focus and the show took a rough hit. Consistency goes to Turtles, while peak goes to GB
New cartoon: they were both pretty bad
Toys: Ghostbusters: Trap, Proton Pack, the ectos, the firehouse
Video games: Tough call, though I really loved the new Ghosbusters game so ill give the nod to GB
Societal impact: Ghostbusters for sure
Movies: GB easy
Sexy Halloween costumes: Id much rather see girls dressed as a sexy GB than a sexy turtle
Vllians: Shredder/Krang/etc vs Gozer/Staypuft/random ghosts. Tough call on this one. Ill call it a draw

Overall: GB

[Loose Cannon]

wow, this is almost impossible. I don't even know how to vote. I love the movies of each, I love the cartoons of each, I had all the figures and accessories (Ghostbuster house, Turtle Sewer, Technodrome, Turtle Bus, Ecto 1) of each and I dressed up as both for Halloween.


This is fucking crazy Jeri

[Jeritron]

He's a radical rat

[McLegend]

Ninja Turles for me, but this business of Dave Coulier being in the Ghostbusters cartoon is kind of mind boggling.

[McLegend]

Arsenio Hall was the voice of Winston!!????!!!! What?????

How did I not know these things?????????

[Jeritron]

Indeed. Did you know that Uncle Phil from Fresh Prince was the voice of Shredder?

[McLegend]

Yeah that one I knew. I might have found that out from TPWW years ago to.

[Jeritron]

I remember when I first heard that I was blown away

[McLegend]

It was shocking to say the least.

[Jeritron]

Carlton was one of the voices on Extreme Ghostbusters too. The Banks family has a rich legacy of cartoon voiceovers

[Ermaximus]

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[Jeritron]

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I'm watching the Ghostbusters crossover on a whim

[McLegend]

I had that Yojimbo action figure when I was kid. I forgot all about that guy until I saw that picture.... Err comic

[Ermaximus]

I had that Yojimbo action figure when I was kid. I forgot all about that guy until I saw that picture.

I've got 1 of him. Currently trying to work out a "trade" with Jeritron. I've also got the Panda Kahn and intend on ebay hunting for another Ace Duck.

[Jeritron]

http://gogreenmachine.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/movie_star_turtles1-300x136.jpg
http://www.ninjaturtles.com/toys/1991/super-shredder.jpg
http://www.toyarchive.com/STAForSale/NEW2001+/TMNT/MOC/MovieStarSplinter6thMOSC1a.jpg

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/415K54Q91NL.jpg

[Jeritron]

http://www.ninjaturtles.com/toys/1991/rahzar02.jpghttp://www.ninjaturtles.com/toys/1991/tokka-front.jpg

[Corporate CockSnogger]

I've got a shit load of the turtles figures. Got all the ones posted up there ^ plus loads more.

[asphyXy]

This is the toughest decision ever.

[asphyXy]

Ninja Turtles are from my hometown, by the way. Watch the news broadcast at the beginning of TMNT 2. April O'Neil says, "reporting live from Bayonne, New Jersey," which is the origin of the ooze.

[DAMN iNATOR]

I never got the attraction of slime. The only slime thing I had was some ninja turtles vehicle thing. I used the slime like... once and it got ruined and I was just "Great. What now?" even as a kid.

First off, I went with TMNT, but only by the narrowest of margins. And I believe the whole '80s-mid '90s craze with sliming everything on TV being the 'in thing to do' may have very well had a lot to do with Ghostbusters and TMNT, I believe the TV series You Can't Do That on Television was the pioneer of the sliming antics, as the show itself dates back to '79, a year or so before they even hit Nickelodeon...and as I'm sure most of us know, the slime would be dumped on any poor, unfortunate soul stupid or forgetful enough to utter the words "I don't know". It's my belief that once Nick started making this show they were naturally aware of this and the gag the show also had of dumping water on anyone who said the word "water", and as such, decided sliming people was so popular with the show's young audience that they decided to make it a staple of their most famous kids shows.

[Rammsteinmad]

The Films
Both films had incredible movies to be honest. Whilst today I think the Ghostbusters ones hold up better, the TMNT ones are a HUGE part of my childhood, and the nostalgia still makes them awesome films, including the third one. Haven't seen all of the CGI one, but it seemed alright what I saw of it.

The Original Cartoons
Turtles win this one no doubt. Easily one of the greatest cartoon series of all time, and pretty much my obsession for the first few years of my life. The GB cartoon was also cool, but I seem to remember there being a billion more Turtles cartoons, and the GB's just couldn't touch that. Plus the Turtles had a much bigger cast of characters/allies/enemies etc, which made for more varied episodes.

The Reboot Cartoons
Haven't seen too much of either to be honest. Didn't really like Extreme Ghostbusters (that's the GB reboot in question right?), and I didn't get to see many episodes of TMNT, however, the episodes I did see were pretty good, and pretty loyal to the more ninja-esque aspects of the Turtles. The Turtles Forever animated movie was incredible though, whilst the Extreme meet the Real Ghostbusters was kinda crap.

The Toys
I'd have to go with Turtles again. Whilst GB toys were cool, there wasn't really much to go for compared to Turtles. Turtles had EVERYTHING! No doubt the GB house was an awesome playset (ditto the slime complaints) and the photon pack/ghost trap were good fun back in the day. The Turtles though... wow... the sewer lair, the blimp, the Technodrome, the fugures and a billion different versions, such as movie stars, horror stars, space, surf, ninjas, movies... holy shit.

The videogames
Can't really comment here. Only game I've played was this one:

http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/0/8168/758645-teenage_mutant_ninja_turtles_iii___radical_rescue_coverart_large.png

The children
I'd imagine the Ghostbusters children would be better looking, and how would the Turles ever have kids anyway? I doubt April O'Neil would put up for them. However, if the Turtles could have children, they'd end up looking like Franklin, so the Turtles get this one.

http://www.assoa.nt.edu.au/MATERIALS/wellbeing/Images/Franklin.jpg

In conclusion, the Turtles get my vote. The Ghostbusters were awesome back in the day, but the TMNT pretty much WAS my life throughout my childhood. I miss such innocent times... :(

[Jeritron]

The 3rd Ninja Turtles movie is the biggest piece of shit ever. Even as a kid I knew it

[Rammsteinmad]

I loved it as a kid. And still feel nostalgic watching it today.

[Jeritron]

I think AVGN reviewed it a few years back

[Jeritron]

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[Gonzo]

Absolutely fucking hated TMNTIII. What a pile of fucking shit that was.

[Jeritron]

I definitely hated it as a kid. It's the only one I never owned on VHS and only remember seeing a couple times, tops.
It's pretty bad when a 7 year old obsessed with the Ninja Turtles thinks the movie is a pile of garbage. That's a true barometer of how it was a failure on every level.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

The TNMT 3 VHS was given a fitting death by the Angry Video Game nerd as it was sworded to death.

I think there should have been a tie/can't decide for this poll.

[Kapoutman]

This should be Ghostbusters all the way.