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Jeritron
06-25-2010, 03:29 PM
Suprisingly no thread for this yet, or it's old enough to not turn up in searches.


Anyways, Del Toro was slated to direct. Then he left the project earlier this month. Now it's being reported that Peter Jackson has decided to fully take over.
So it's gone from good, to bad, to better than before.

Discuss.

thedamndest
06-25-2010, 03:32 PM
Last I heard Jackson wanted to do it in two parts. Is that still the case?

BigDaddyCool
06-25-2010, 03:33 PM
Good. Who is going to play the dwarf?

Jeritron
06-25-2010, 03:36 PM
Last I heard Jackson wanted to do it in two parts. Is that still the case?

Yea. They wrote two movies.

As of right now it's all written and planned. Del Toro and Jackson wrote together, but MGM's financial problems held things up a bit so Del Toro had to leave.
Now it appears to be going ahead.

I don't think anyone's been cast besides Ian McKellan and Andy Serkis

BigDaddyCool
06-25-2010, 03:58 PM
Who is going to play Smaug?

Swiss Ultimate
06-25-2010, 04:01 PM
Good. Who is going to play the dwarf?

Which dwarf?

Swiss Ultimate
06-25-2010, 04:02 PM
Who is going to play Smaug?

Robin Williams.

Loose Cannon
06-25-2010, 04:06 PM
love the Hobit. I am a Thorin Oakenshield mark

BigDaddyCool
06-25-2010, 04:29 PM
Which dwarf?

Happy.

Swiss Ultimate
06-25-2010, 05:29 PM
Happy.

The one with cancer? Was he in the animated version?

Kane Knight
06-25-2010, 05:41 PM
I'm over scenery porn.

Pass.

Requiem
06-25-2010, 11:28 PM
I'm over scenery porn.

Pass.

Just like the books.

Kane Knight
06-26-2010, 01:16 AM
Yeah, pretty much.

Jeritron
10-22-2010, 05:27 AM
So they finally got all the problems holding this up worked out. It got the greenlight last week and is far along in pre-production. I think they start filming this winter and it releases in late 2012.
Peter Jackson is directing now, since Del Toro had to leave.

They announced the casting today:

http://images1.fanpop.com/images/image_uploads/Martin-martin-freeman-845329_300_455.jpg
Martin Freeman from the The Office UK as Bilbo

http://www.tvthrong.co.uk/files/u847/gisbourne.jpg
Richard Armitage as Thorin Oakenshield


Also, a bunch of various actors playing Dwarfs and such. I don't think they've said who is voicing Smaug and stuff yet.
Ian McKellan and Andy Serkis are back. Hugo Weaving too. No idea on who else is back.

Sixx
10-22-2010, 11:00 AM
http://www.tvthrong.co.uk/files/u847/gisbourne.jpg

This guy doesn't look like a dwarf.

Razzamajazz
10-22-2010, 11:17 AM
they're chopping off his legs below the knees so he can live the part

BigDaddyCool
10-22-2010, 11:19 AM
Hurray!

BigDaddyCool
10-22-2010, 11:22 AM
http://www.tvthrong.co.uk/files/u847/gisbourne.jpg

This guy doesn't look like a dwarf.

I agree, dwarves should have bug noses and be ugly, not ruggedly hansome.

Jeritron
10-22-2010, 01:02 PM
That's what makeup is for. John Rhys Davies wasn't even recognizable outside of his voice, and I would assume the same would go for anyone else

Jeritron
10-22-2010, 01:03 PM
It's a good thing Peter Jackson held onto control or Eddie Murphy would be playing every role

Hanso Amore
10-22-2010, 01:41 PM
Yeah, I would have hated the scene when Smaug burns LakeTown and a fat black family's farts cause even more damage.

BigDaddyCool
10-22-2010, 01:42 PM
What about Eddie Murphy?

Lock Jaw
10-22-2010, 01:50 PM
Other cast:

Aiden Turner (Being Human) and Rob Kazinsky (EastEnders) as Thorin’s nephews Kili and Fili; Graham McTavish (Secretariat, 24) as Dwalin; John Callen (Power Rangers Jungle Fury) as Oin; Stephen Hunter (All Saints) as Bombur; Mark Hadlow (King Kong) as Dori; and Peter Hambleton (The Strip) as Gloin.

Razzamajazz
10-22-2010, 01:54 PM
eddie murphy is the only name i recognize in this thread

Rammsteinmad
10-22-2010, 02:56 PM
Hasn't this film been in the works for ages now?

VSG
10-22-2010, 04:07 PM
Thorin is described as being fierce, and aged with a superbly long beard. This should be interesting.

Sixx
10-22-2010, 06:44 PM
That's what makeup is for. John Rhys Davies wasn't even recognizable outside of his voice, and I would assume the same would go for anyone else

Yeah, but he had this dwarfish look about him.

This guy is too pretty.

Jeritron
10-22-2010, 06:46 PM
What are you saying? That nobody tosses a dwarf's salad?

Sixx
10-22-2010, 06:47 PM
That's exactly what I'm saying.

Kris P Lettus
10-24-2010, 05:42 PM
Martin Freeman is perfect..

Downunder
10-26-2010, 12:20 AM
It might be a while longer before they make this film:

THE prospect of losing a two-part, $500 million Lord of the Rings prequel prompted New Zealand Prime Minister John Key to act.

Just four months before principal photography was due to begin, director Peter Jackson warned Thursday that Time Warner's New Line Cinema will move production of the The Hobbit - beset by labour uncertainty - out of the country.

New Zealand Actors' Equity union, which previously called on actors around the world to refuse to work on the film, appeared to back down after Jackson's warning, with Actors' Equity organiser Frances Walsh declaring "industrial issues" no longer a barrier.

After Jackson's comments, Key stepped up his campaign to keep the project on Kiwi soil, The Wall Street Journal reports.

He and members of his government want to meet with Warner executives in New Zealand to discuss what can be done to make sure it does not lose the blockbuster.


According to New Line spokeswoman Candice McDonough, the California-based company has not decided where to make the film. She declined to comment on whether production executives would meet with Key.

"It's really tragic for New Zealand," Key's spokeswoman Jane Fraser-Jones said of the possible loss.

With an economy struggling to shake off the effects of the global financial crisis and a recent earthquake in Christchurch, the country's second-largest city, the government is eager for the investment the film represents.

Some economists estimate that the real economic cost of losing The Hobbit would far exceed the $500 million budgeted to make the film.

Jeritron
10-26-2010, 12:30 AM
Doesn't sound like there's any problem with the production. Just New Zealand trying to convince them to film there.
Is that decision supposed to stall them? Seems like they will decide and get underway regardless.

BigDaddyCool
03-22-2011, 10:29 AM
They started filming!

Much-Maligned The Hobbit Actually Starts Filming
Greg Tito (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/profiles/articles/Greg%20Tito) | 21 Mar 2011 5:26 pm
Filed under: greg tito (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/profiles/posts/Greg%20Tito?view=articles), new zealand (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/tag/new+zealand), peter jackson (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/tag/peter+jackson), the hobbit (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/tag/the+hobbit)
After union disputes, sickness and bankruptcy, The Hobbit production started principal photography today.
Peter Jackson has been trying to get this film made for a bloody long time. He started off just producing the prequel to his blockbuster fantasy The Lord of the Rings with Mexican filmmaker Guillermo del Toro as director. When del Toro couldn't work the filming into his schedule, Jackson offered to step in but the financial troubles at MGM (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/104462-Hobbit-Movies-Finally-Receive-Studio-Greenlight) threatened to derail The Hobbit and it took a joint deal between Warner Bros., MGM and New Line to provide the necessary funds. Then, just when it looked like it was moving forward, a union boycott demanding that more roles be offered to New Zealand actors (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/103846-The-Hobbit-in-Danger-Due-to-Labor-Squabbles) almost forced production to move to Europe or another location. Finally, Peter Jackson himself had to be hospitalized with a perforated ulcer (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/107338-Hobbit-Movies-Delayed-Again-as-Director-Is-Hospitalized). Despite all the troubles, The Hobbit, which will be told over two films, began capturing images on celluloid today under Jackson's direction.

http://cdn.themis-media.com/media/global/images/library/deriv/50/50868.jpg (http://cdn.themis-media.com/media/global/images/library/deriv/50/50867.jpg)
http://cdn.themis-media.com/media/global/images/library/deriv/50/50870.jpg (http://cdn.themis-media.com/media/global/images/library/deriv/50/50869.jpg)



The film stars Martin Freeman (The Office, Sherlock) as Bilbo Baggins journeying with a group of dwarves led by Thorin Oakenshield, played by British TV veteran Richard Armitage. Returning from The Lord of the Rings is Cate Blanchett as Galadriel, Andy Serkis as Gollum and Elijah Wood as Frodo. Also returning is Ian McKellen as Gandalf, the actor having confirmed that he will reprise his role in the new movies (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/106858-Ian-McKellen-Almost-Ditched-Playing-Gandalf-in-The-Hobbit-Movie).
Despite the good news that Jackson has begun shooting, we fans still have a long time to wait as the planned release dates are 2012 and 2013. I'm still quite interested in the framing element of Frodo reading the story of his adoptive father's exploits from the Red Book of Westmarch (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/106762-Elijah-Woods-Frodo-Will-Appear-in-The-Hobbit-Movies). I think it will really bring the disparate elements not only of The Hobbit but also Tolkien's amazingly in-depth source material and backstory.
Ya, I can't wait.
Source: Warner Bros. PR (http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150168211921558)

Swiss Ultimate
03-22-2011, 10:46 AM
Looking forward to this.

El Vaquero de Infierno
03-22-2011, 11:17 AM
Fuck Frodo.

BigDaddyCool
03-22-2011, 11:22 AM
Fuck Frodo.

The Hobbit is about Bilbo, not Frodo. Read a book. :rant:

Swiss Ultimate
03-22-2011, 12:59 PM
Read The Hobbit.

VSG
03-22-2011, 01:10 PM
Finally :love:

VSG
03-22-2011, 01:11 PM
Wait, was Galadriel in The Hobbit? I can understand a young Frodo but even that is a bit of a stretch.

BigDaddyCool
03-22-2011, 01:15 PM
Wait, was Galadriel in The Hobbit? I can understand a young Frodo but even that is a bit of a stretch.

No women are in the hobbit.

VSG
03-22-2011, 01:15 PM
No wonder I liked that so much.

El Vaquero de Infierno
03-22-2011, 01:33 PM
Read The Hobbit.

I tried reading The Hobbit around 10 years ago, and after 40 pages I was so bored that I put it down and never went back to it. I don't regret doing so.

Kalyx triaD
04-14-2011, 12:50 PM
http://youtu.be/FfesknLk5uI

Buzzkill
04-14-2011, 01:25 PM
that looks like so much fun

Kalyx triaD
04-14-2011, 01:26 PM
Yeah I was filled with joy watching the video, just knowing I'll be back in that universe with the music and the characters. Love it.

VSG
06-24-2011, 08:32 PM
http://www.fandango.com/movieblog/new-hobbit-photos-give-first-look-at-martin-freeman-as-bilbo-669628.html?wss=fanmail&type=Newsletter&mailing=6.24.11%20Newsletter%202


New 'Hobbit' Pics Give First Look at Martin Freeman as Bilbo

By: Peter Hall (http://www.fandango.com/movieblog/peter+hall.html) on June 23, 2011 at 10:19AM Comments (http://www.fandango.com/movieblog/new-hobbit-photos-give-first-look-at-martin-freeman-as-bilbo-669628.html?wss=fanmail&type=Newsletter&mailing=6.24.11%20Newsletter%202#commentsdiv) (7)

http://images.fandango.com/images/fandangoblog/hobbit1-final.jpg
It's a good time to be a fan of Middle Earth. Next week, Warner Bros. new Extended Edition Blu-ray box set comes out, but today something even a little more special is ready for your early morning eyes: your first look at the characters of Peter Jackson's new two-part film epic, The Hobbit (http://www.fandango.com/thehobbit:anunexpectedjourney_143302/movieoverview).
Yes, back when production started to really gear into place, we got a look at a few of the sets, but today Entertainment Weekly (http://www.ew.com/ew/gallery/0,,20504849,00.html#20980350) has shared our first look at Martin Freeman as Bilbo Baggins. A whole cast of <s>other hobbits</s> dwarves can be seen behind him as he stands in the hallway of his familiar home, Bag End, but it'll take a keen Hobbit-fan to identify them all.
But we also have our first production photo of Gandalf (pipe in hand, of course), as well as a new behind-the-scenes photo (http://www.ew.com/ew/gallery/0,,20504849,00.html#20980348) of Jackson giving Freeman some on-set direction.
http://images.fandango.com/images/fandangoblog/hobbit2-final.jpg



Can't wait

Lock Jaw
06-24-2011, 09:04 PM
Yeah, can't wait for these movies.

Kalyx triaD
07-07-2011, 03:36 PM
Dori, Nori, and Ori:

http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/8/2011/07/peter_jackson-1.jpg

Lock Jaw
07-07-2011, 04:59 PM
Looks like video game characters/CGI People.

VSG
07-08-2011, 08:49 AM
Ya fuck that. It looks horrible for movie characters.

Lock Jaw
07-08-2011, 01:07 PM
Oin, Gloin:

http://spinoff.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/hobbit-dwarves2.jpg

VSG
07-08-2011, 07:51 PM
C'mon no way that's a candid shot. Fucking photoshopped to bits, them.

Lock Jaw
07-08-2011, 08:14 PM
Honestly these shots look like artist's rendering of the characters/design sheets.

Requiem
07-09-2011, 01:33 AM
Exactly. Now quit pointlessly dissecting them. As far as pre-movie concept shots go, they are not bad.

Lock Jaw
07-09-2011, 02:10 AM
I don't like the braiding on Dori's leftmost beard-braid. Gonna ruin the whole movie for me.

Lock Jaw
07-10-2011, 12:06 AM
<iframe width="560" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/2oZSfT1ANgI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

I love that they are doing these.

Tom Guycott
07-10-2011, 07:47 AM
"Oh what shall we do with the funny little things?"

Kris P Lettus
07-11-2011, 09:45 AM
I am doing a shitty low budget horror movie right now and tow weeks ago a producer got the whole crew's attention at lunch.. He announced that our lead actor Luke Even got the part of Bard the.Bowman.. Luke was sitting at the table in front of me and he was hearing this news for the first time.. It.was amazing seeing the emotion run through him..

parkmania
07-14-2011, 04:41 PM
Bombur, Bofur, and Bifur

http://icv2.com/images/20535Hobbit_Group1-xlg.jpg

Kalyx triaD
07-14-2011, 05:16 PM
Lots of Dwarf people this go-round.

The Destroyer
07-14-2011, 05:18 PM
Well, the book is full of dwarves, after all.

Sixx
07-14-2011, 06:56 PM
I am doing a shitty low budget horror movie right now and tow weeks ago a producer got the whole crew's attention at lunch.. He announced that our lead actor Luke Even got the part of Bard the.Bowman.. Luke was sitting at the table in front of me and he was hearing this news for the first time.. It.was amazing seeing the emotion run through him..

You mean Luke Evans.

parkmania
07-15-2011, 09:54 AM
Lots of Dwarf people this go-round.

''Three Rings for the Elven-kings under the sky,
Seven for the Dwarf-lords in their halls of stone,
Nine for Mortal Men doomed to die,
One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

One Ring to rule them all,
One Ring to find them,
One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them
In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie."

Kalyx triaD
07-15-2011, 11:03 AM
Thanks.

parkmania
07-15-2011, 03:00 PM
Balin and Dwalin

http://icv2.com/images/20554balin-and-dwalin-dwarves-LG.jpg

Lock Jaw
07-15-2011, 03:11 PM
http://i56.tinypic.com/2ypf803.gif

BALLIN!

VSG
07-15-2011, 03:30 PM
Balin and Dwalin

http://icv2.com/images/20554balin-and-dwalin-dwarves-LG.jpg

That dwarf on the left reclaimed Moria?? No wonder they got annihilated so easily.

ct2k
07-23-2011, 04:44 PM
Pretty fucking excited about this to be honest.

Kalyx triaD
07-23-2011, 04:48 PM
YES

Lock Jaw
07-23-2011, 05:21 PM
<iframe width="560" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/i3V3-KdAWYs" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Marked out at the final seconds

VSG
07-23-2011, 09:45 PM
Marked out like a little girl at Twilight at Rivendell and of course the ending.

Kalyx triaD
11-04-2011, 05:50 PM
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/6e-3i1ploR4" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Love these vid-docs. First movie I've been this excited for because of 3D. Didn't get to see Avatar in 3D and I was gonna see Transformers 3 regardless of anything. Gonna be good to step back into this universe.

Lock Jaw
11-04-2011, 06:04 PM
Beginning of that vid: "Ugggh. 3D...."

By the end of that vid: "Cool, 3D! Gotta make sure to see this one in 3D!"

Kris P Lettus
11-04-2011, 06:48 PM
This thread makes me miss Jeritron..

VSG
11-04-2011, 07:24 PM
Ditto. He loved his LOTR :'(

Get the same feeling in the Dark Knight Rises thread.

Lock Jaw
12-20-2011, 10:22 PM
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/UGM1RB73Zso" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Juan
12-20-2011, 11:33 PM
Wow, I wasn't the biggest fan of the LOTR movies, but I'm digging this

Kalyx triaD
12-21-2011, 12:04 AM
Straight up emotional over this.

Swiss Ultimate
12-21-2011, 05:54 PM
Bilbo is the reason I got into books in the first place. Love The Hobbit so much.

LuigiD
12-21-2011, 06:11 PM
Looks A+
Super excited.

Bad Company
12-21-2011, 07:56 PM
Yep, some of my flatmates did those shots in the trailer. Good old Weta Digital.

XCaliber
12-22-2011, 01:03 AM
Looks great but I can't see this topping any of the LOTR flicks.

Lock Jaw
12-26-2011, 04:01 PM
On top of that, new production video:

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/dY1JmJw8EBg" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Lock Jaw
03-01-2012, 06:14 PM
<object width="560" height="315"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/vsDiiARZ66Q?version=3&amp;hl=en_US"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/vsDiiARZ66Q?version=3&amp;hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="560" height="315" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true"></embed></object>

El Fangel
03-01-2012, 07:28 PM
Astounding how much time and effort are put into these things.

VSG
03-01-2012, 08:07 PM
Superb stuff

Kalyx triaD
06-06-2012, 08:55 PM
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/GsZ0qKX8uWE" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

VSG
07-27-2012, 01:17 PM
<object width="560" height="315"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/cTUQi8HBlg4?version=3&amp;hl=en_US"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/cTUQi8HBlg4?version=3&amp;hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="560" height="315" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true"></embed></object>

Alrighty then, with Batman done time to get back onto this hype train.

Fignuts
07-28-2012, 12:40 AM
Can't wait to see Smaug.

RP
07-28-2012, 12:44 AM
I wasnt impressed.

VSG
07-28-2012, 08:31 AM
Probably because you can't spoil this movie.

VSG
07-28-2012, 08:32 AM
Can't wait to see Smaug.

Probably movie 2, which is another year to go at least.

RP
07-28-2012, 08:57 AM
Probably because you can't spoil this movie.

I've read the book. I'm just not impressed with the trailer. The one I saw had a bunch of dwarves and a dude that looked like John Travolta in Battlefield Earth. I just wasnt impressed. Its been a while since I watched the cartoon and read the book, but if I remember right, I wasnt too impressed with them either.

VSG
07-28-2012, 09:12 AM
I liked the book, but I am still skeptical as to how they are going to make 2 movies out of it. Scenery porn will only last so long.

This is my only concern with the movie, but I will still watch it on the first day.

Swiss Ultimate
07-28-2012, 01:24 PM
I've read this book so many times I don't know if anything they do can match what I envisioned as a child and as an adult.

parkmania
07-28-2012, 09:40 PM
http://www.icv2.com/images/23529gollumlg.jpg

Also, there's talk of turning it into 3 movies instead of just 2 - they're just not sure there's enough source material to do it.

VSG
07-28-2012, 10:38 PM
They bloody well not make this into 3 movies :foc:

Lock Jaw
07-28-2012, 11:34 PM
I think they are adding extra stuff like what Gandalf goes off to do or something.

Kalyx triaD
07-29-2012, 02:03 AM
I can't see why that's a bad thing. Let them have another trilogy if they could do it.

Gonzo
07-29-2012, 06:03 PM
I try not to be one of those people who gets all uppity about staying true to the source material but the story itself is good enough. They don't need to stretch it out as a blatant cash grab. Let's face it, that's the reason for stretching out the material.

Kalyx triaD
07-30-2012, 02:04 PM
It is only at the end of a shoot that you finally get the chance to sit down and have a look at the film you have made. Recently Fran, Phil and I did just this when we watched for the first time an early cut of the first movie - and a large chunk of the second. We were really pleased with the way the story was coming together, in particular, the strength of the characters and the cast who have brought them to life. All of which gave rise to a simple question: do we take this chance to tell more of the tale? And the answer from our perspective as the filmmakers, and as fans, was an unreserved ‘yes.'

We know how much of the story of Bilbo Baggins, the Wizard Gandalf, the Dwarves of Erebor, the rise of the Necromancer, and the Battle of Dol Guldur will remain untold if we do not take this chance. The richness of the story of The Hobbit, as well as some of the related material in the appendices of The Lord of the Rings, allows us to tell the full story of the adventures of Bilbo Baggins and the part he played in the sometimes dangerous, but at all times exciting, history of Middle-earth.

So, without further ado and on behalf of New Line Cinema, Warner Bros. Pictures, Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer, Wingnut Films, and the entire cast and crew of “The Hobbit” films, I’d like to announce that two films will become three.

It has been an unexpected journey indeed, and in the words of Professor Tolkien himself, "a tale that grew in the telling."

I'm happy about this.

Swiss Ultimate
07-30-2012, 02:14 PM
yay

Lock Jaw
07-30-2012, 02:33 PM
BLATANT CASH GRAB.


That will get my money easily. :shifty:

VSG
07-30-2012, 03:56 PM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Requiem
07-30-2012, 04:03 PM
I'll wait for DVD/bluray, tbh.

Probably not even gonna bother till they're all done. So, three books get one movie a piece and cover the story closely and were (IMO) better than the books as they allowed Tolkien's boring drawn out attention to detail to at least translate into a visual treat.

But a single book gets three movies? Two, I could maybe see, just to be able to expand on details. But three? Nah, fuck that. Wasn't incredibly interested in this project to begin with, but I figured "Sure I'll see it, whatever". Just lost me though. Not gonna wait an absurd amount of time between movies for something that could have been summed up in less and is pretty much the definition of 'milking a cash cow'.

Kalyx triaD
07-30-2012, 04:20 PM
It would seem the third movie would cover the less explored history referenced in the books. I'm not sure why this is a bad thing to anyone who enjoyed the movies. Short of blatantly making new material (which I'm not completely against anyway, they have created a new character for this trilogy), they're staying as close to the myth as possible.

This production team as spent a great deal of their lives living in this universe. I like to think they have an authority with the movie world to do things like add new characters or expand little details into fully filmed scenes/story arcs. The past movies made me explore the books whereas I never would have dived into them on my own volition. The books and the movies can coexist without harming the other by virtue of just being there.

Fignuts
07-31-2012, 12:25 AM
I'll wait for DVD/bluray, tbh.

Probably not even gonna bother till they're all done. So, three books get one movie a piece and cover the story closely and were (IMO) better than the books as they allowed Tolkien's boring drawn out attention to detail to at least translate into a visual treat.

But a single book gets three movies? Two, I could maybe see, just to be able to expand on details. But three? Nah, fuck that. Wasn't incredibly interested in this project to begin with, but I figured "Sure I'll see it, whatever". Just lost me though. Not gonna wait an absurd amount of time between movies for something that could have been summed up in less and is pretty much the definition of 'milking a cash cow'.

Well, I'm guessing with three movies, we won't just be seeing The Hobbit, but also possibly parts of The Silmarillion, Unfinished Tales, and The History of Middle-earth. Judging from what Jackson says in that quote, it's a strong possibility.

Requiem
07-31-2012, 02:49 PM
Oh. I suppose if there's more to it than just The Hobbit, it is more reasonable to split it like so. I've never read those other works so it might be nice seeing new material.

Gonzo
07-31-2012, 10:59 PM
Well, I'm guessing with three movies, we won't just be seeing The Hobbit, but also possibly parts of The Silmarillion, Unfinished Tales, and The History of Middle-earth. Judging from what Jackson says in that quote, it's a strong possibility.

IIRC The Silmarillion isn't so much a story as a genealogy etc. It's been some years since I took a crack at it but I think it's the kind of work you read with charts and maps handy.

VSG
07-31-2012, 11:56 PM
I read The Silmarillion 4 times in the past two years, and it is a magnificent book.

Fignuts
08-01-2012, 03:47 AM
I have it, but I've yet to even read the hobbit or LOTR yet. Tried, but I don't know if Tolkien's style is my thing.

VSG
08-01-2012, 08:50 AM
I should warn you The Silmarillion is a tough read, it has a ridiculous number of names.

Lock Jaw
09-19-2012, 12:18 PM
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Fignuts
09-19-2012, 02:55 PM
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Kalyx triaD
09-19-2012, 03:00 PM
Nice.

The Destroyer
09-19-2012, 03:03 PM
Looking good.

Swiss Ultimate
09-19-2012, 08:16 PM
Mmmph!

Kalyx triaD
09-25-2012, 07:12 PM
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Swiss Ultimate
09-25-2012, 08:10 PM
First book I ever read.

RoXer
12-14-2012, 09:55 PM
Might go see this next week. Could never really get into LOTR lore though

Hanso Amore
12-14-2012, 10:03 PM
Loved it. Martin freeman is a great bilbo. They did a good job of finding a stopping point. Also did well in introducing the new material.

Lock Jaw
12-14-2012, 10:08 PM
I am still undecided whether I want to see this in 3D or not.

Hanso Amore
12-14-2012, 10:21 PM
I saw it in non 3d standard (Honestly most 3D films I feel are a waste) and I was unsure on the new format.

It was amazing looking. Now I wish I had done standard 3D as I think it would have really been worth it. Im thinking of seeing it again in 3D...

Nowhere Man
12-20-2012, 01:54 AM
I quite enjoyed The Hobbit. I've got a full review of it here (http://bazzardthebazz.blogspot.com/2012/12/movie-review-hobbit.html), if you like, but the short version is that while it's not as good as LotR, I still had fun with it.

Kalyx triaD
12-20-2012, 01:58 AM
The past trilogy is so special to me I'm just happy to be able to go back into that universe with new movies.

Skippord
12-20-2012, 06:20 AM
is this as painfully boring and long as the Lord Of The Rings movies?

Kalyx triaD
12-20-2012, 06:31 AM
It's from the exact same production team. If the last trilogy didn't impress you, don't look for this to sway you.

Skippord
12-20-2012, 09:35 AM
and no Viggo Mortensen either

Razzamajazz
12-20-2012, 12:10 PM
i thought it was too short. i honestly could have sat there for another 2 hours

Tom Guycott
12-20-2012, 11:59 PM
I am still undecided whether I want to see this in 3D or not.

Not really sure if it was "worth" it.

Don't get me wrong, loved it. But it wasn't exactly like it was Avatar, where it was expressly meant to be seen in 3D. But there was one part where a chunk of derbris got me to flinch, so it wasn't attrocious.

My problem with judging this is the fact that when I lived in KS, I got spoiled by being in proximity to a fairly new IMAX theatre that Warren pumped a bunch of money into. Regular-ass theatre 3D isn't as wow-worthy up against that. I'm spoiled forever. So, take my assessment for what it's worth.

Also, it didn't matter to me if it was 3D or not. I just wanted to see the damn movie... and all the late shows were 3D only, so there wasn't much of a choice for the group of us that went.

SlickyTrickyDamon
12-21-2012, 12:28 AM
and no Viggo Mortensen either

They made the lead dwarf look human enough to remind me of Viggo Mortensen in the first trilogy.

Jamesdawn
12-21-2012, 02:17 AM
This is not going to be one of those long reviews, consisting of detailed writings about what was good or wrong, that is for you to decide, once it hits the cinemas. All i am saying to you, is that you should definitely find some time and read the book before you go and see the movie. Book is very complex, sometimes hard to keep up with, but has a bit more ambient depth into it, while the movie offers you all the eye-candy that even your imagination wouldn't be able to conjure. The movie is pretty, well acted and has a good script, that sticks to what was in the book, BUT, much less detailed (well, it is a movie, so that's normal). This movie is not enough to understand everything behind The Hobbit and the story behind it, but it does give a nice illustrative try to simplify things.

Bad News Gertner
12-21-2012, 02:21 AM
This is not going to be one of those long reviews, consisting of detailed writings about what was good or wrong, that is for you to decide, once it hits the cinemas. All i am saying to you, is that you should definitely find some time and read the book before you go and see the movie. Book is very complex, sometimes hard to keep up with, but has a bit more ambient depth into it, while the movie offers you all the eye-candy that even your imagination wouldn't be able to conjure. The movie is pretty, well acted and has a good script, that sticks to what was in the book, BUT, much less detailed (well, it is a movie, so that's normal). This movie is not enough to understand everything behind The Hobbit and the story behind it, but it does give a nice illustrative try to simplify things.

Get AIDS you fucking fag.

SlickyTrickyDamon
12-21-2012, 06:28 AM
The Hobbit is the worst of the four books. Fitting that the movie is the worst of the four. Still pretty good though.

VSG
12-26-2012, 10:09 PM
STD, you do realize LOTR is 6 books and this movie is just 1 of 3 in total, correct?

P.S. There are many more books on middle earth about the whole saga. You should go read them before declaring The Hobbit as the worst.

SlickyTrickyDamon
12-26-2012, 10:55 PM
STD, you do realize LOTR is 6 books and this movie is just 1 of 3 in total, correct?

P.S. There are many more books on middle earth about the whole saga. You should go read them before declaring The Hobbit as the worst.

They don't have the rights to the Untold tales or the Similiarion. The Hobbit should be 1 of 2 movies. Not 1 of 3.

Lock Jaw
12-26-2012, 11:07 PM
Saw The Hobbit today. In 3D. Should have gone with 2D. I was totally "distracted" by the 3D, and couldn't appreciate the "mise-en-scène", or really notice too much the 48frame thing because my eyes were too busy being slightly strained. Also I don't like how the 3D glasses kill some of the color out of a film.

Anyways... it was alright.

I think the framing sequence was entirely too long. They should have just gone straight into the story instead of blatantly doing a "LOOK THIS IS A PREQUEL, NOW HERE IS FRODO IN AN ENTIRELY POINTLESS CAMEO".

The Hobbit novel came out before the LotR novels, so they should have just treated it like its own story, rather than shoehorning it in as a prequel an throwing in excess winks and nods to the LotR movies.

Other things... This movie is definitely a lot faster pace than the LotR movies, but I didn't get a sense of any of the Dwarf characters aside from Thorin. Next closest to being developed is Balin probably (the old one).

The Stone Giants thing was kind of weird and had no explanation, so it was just "Hey the mountains are alive now, and they waited until we were standing on them to start fighting". It probably had some sort of explanation in the book, but it has been ages since I have read it.

Next point: Did I miss something after the Goblin Town escape? They escaped into the daylight, but then suddenly it was nighttime again and they were being chased by Azog and the Wargs (good band name). Just some bad editing, or what?

Final point: The Eagles really need some sort of backstory in these movies. Right now they are just this giant deus ex machina that shows up and does a fraction of what they could. It just leaves me going "Why didn't they fly them all the way to the mountain?" in both trilogies.

I think I vaguely remember in the book there was some plot point about the King of the Eagles owing Gandalf a debt, and that he could call on them a certain number of times.... but that they hated carrying people/people riding them for whatever reason. (But still did it begrudgingly).

Kalyx triaD
12-26-2012, 11:32 PM
They don't have the rights to the Untold tales or the Similiarion. The Hobbit should be 1 of 2 movies. Not 1 of 3.

I was happy when the Hobbit got extended to three movies. Why would this bother you at all? The more the better.

I'm pretty sure if WB made a new Harry Potter not based on any novel, Potter fans wouldn't rage at the idea. After a little while the studio side gets a sort of authority with the movie universe and they should be allowed to further interpret things. This includes a new movie.

YOUR Hero
12-27-2012, 10:16 AM
The Hobbit was pretty good. I enjoyed it well enough. Didn't seem ike 3 hours which is a good indication that the pace was alright.
I enjoyed the early Frodo cameo. This is a movie, not the book, so to bemoan that point seems forced.

El Capitano Gatisto
12-27-2012, 10:23 AM
I was happy when the Hobbit got extended to three movies. Why would this bother you at all? The more the better.

I'm pretty sure if WB made a new Harry Potter not based on any novel, Potter fans wouldn't rage at the idea. After a little while the studio side gets a sort of authority with the movie universe and they should be allowed to further interpret things. This includes a new movie.

I haven't seen it yet, but I'm not particularly happy about the extension as it smacks of money-grabbing. If the reason to do something is to try to eke out more cash then it's not a good enough reason in my opinion. Guillermo del Toro dropping from the project and then this extension to 3 films was a problem for me, because both suggest undue marketing influence on the artistic direction, but I'll still go see this.

Requiem
12-27-2012, 02:38 PM
I'd think the reason not to like the 3-split is pretty obvious. As ECG said, it stinks of money-grubbing. I'll see the fucking things, but I'm less likely to rave about them since I now have to wait years before finishing the stupid things.

Hanso Amore
12-27-2012, 11:49 PM
I haven't seen it yet, but I'm not particularly happy about the extension as it smacks of money-grabbing. If the reason to do something is to try to eke out more cash then it's not a good enough reason in my opinion. Guillermo del Toro dropping from the project and then this extension to 3 films was a problem for me, because both suggest undue marketing influence on the artistic direction, but I'll still go see this.

I felt the same way. I still do. Reeks of money grab.

But after seeing part 1 so far I wasn't "let down". Felt they did a good job of making it a good flick and 3 parts so if the next two are as good I think it's just as greats a trilogy as Lotr

SlickyTrickyDamon
12-28-2012, 12:26 AM
I was happy when the Hobbit got extended to three movies. Why would this bother you at all? The more the better.

I'm pretty sure if WB made a new Harry Potter not based on any novel, Potter fans wouldn't rage at the idea. After a little while the studio side gets a sort of authority with the movie universe and they should be allowed to further interpret things. This includes a new movie.

“I feel thin, sort of stretched, like butter scraped over too much bread.” Bilbo. If they can buy the rights to the other books make them all. I'd pay to see them all as long as Peter Jackson still directs them.

As for Potter the story is over unless J.K. Rowling says it isn't. It wouldn't be a studio choice at all. Fans would be pissed if they had another Potter without her involvement since she's still alive. She'd also probably retro-actively give that power to her next of kin also.

Tom Guycott
12-28-2012, 02:45 AM
I'll just wait to see the other 2 parts before I complain about it being padded for cash. The cameos weren't 100% out of sorts when you think about the fact that this is a full-on blockbuster movie franchise that isn't just being populated by Tolken nerds.

Majority of moviegoers haven't actually READ the books. They've only seen the 3 Rings movies. Maybe even the animated version of The Hobbit (that's where I started, honestly), but that's it. Their only point of reference IS the other trilogy. Tying the old Bilbo to the young Bilbo by way of a couple extra scenes makes it seem like a tie-in instead of a total recast (you know, like the "sudden" change in Rhodie in the Iron Man flicks). It's like that disconnect in the Star Wars franchise where a lot of people coming up now only know the "chronological order" way, and don't see the shoehorning of Hayden Christainsen at the end of Jedi as a piss in the face... they see it as a callback to "the first three"* movies.

Also, I thought part of the reason was that they were adding elements of the Simillarion? I dunno. Never read it.

*"The first three" takes on a different meaning in that age disconnect I was talking about. People my age think from New Hope to Jedi, while younger folks associate that same phrase with Episode I-III"

Team Sheep
12-28-2012, 05:41 PM
Saw this today. Was never a big fan of the LOTR. Probably because I was young and didn't appreciate them properly. Might go back and watch them now to see if my opinion changes. But yeah, this was great. Loved the 3D.

Fignuts
12-28-2012, 07:16 PM
I really don't give a fuck how much money they try and grab, as long as the movies are good.

If they decided to make it 3 movies just as a cash grab,and then made one of the movies 3 hours of Gandalf taking a shit, then sure. I'd be upset too. But these movies are going to be amazing. I just got back from the first one, and I loved it.

Plus, while I'm not doubting that money was a definite factor in extending it, I think it's unfair to label it solely as a cash grab. A lot of love goes into making these movies, and I have no doubt that they genuinely want to tell more of the story.

I mean, I get people making comments about it being a cash grab, but to be so offended that you refuse to see it, is rather silly.

Skippord
12-29-2012, 01:40 AM
it's not even a long book

one movie would be fine

Fignuts
12-29-2012, 03:07 AM
You're right. It would.

But I don't see the problem with making 3 either.

Do you need a limit on fun and excitement or something?

Fignuts
12-29-2012, 03:07 AM
Also, for the last god damn time, the movies aren't solely based on The Hobbit.

Kalyx triaD
12-29-2012, 03:44 AM
I find it so strange that people would have a problem with more of the LotR universe. The guys who did the first three movies, potentially the greatest trilogy I've ever seen, are doing these three movies. You think they're gonna suddenly suck at this? You know how much entertainment is created completely for revenue reasons but that doesn't harm the quality - because the people in charge actually give a damn.

I've seen all the vid-docs Peter Jackson released in the last year. I simply can't look at him and think, "Look at that hack just cashing a paycheck." This guy gives a fuck. His whole crew gives a fuck. The studio may want more money, or Peter felt he had enough room for a trilogy, maybe it's both.

I don't care, I have three new Middle-Earth movies to watch and love.

Lock Jaw
12-29-2012, 02:13 PM
Yeah, from what it sounds like, it wasn't the studio pressuring him to make three movies.... because it was only supposed to be two until a few months ago.

Sounds to me like it was probably more a case of Jackson not wanting to cut anything out, and realizing he had enough for a third movie. Then going to the studio and telling them this, and the studio celebrating because they know it will just mean more money for them.

Sixx
12-30-2012, 06:52 AM
The Hobbit is the worst of the four books. Fitting that the movie is the worst of the four. Still pretty good though.

I've read Hobbit twice (as a kid, but it counts) and I couldn't get past page 30 or 40 of LotR, because of how boring all the descriptions were.

Only thing I liked about the LotR movies were the battle scenes, other than that it was awfully boring to me. I'll probably check out The Hobbit, but it's not like I'm expecting anything great.

Just not my cup of tea.

Shisen Kopf
12-30-2012, 08:47 AM
Just like a boring old cup of tea you can spice it up with whiskey. Go see the hobbit drunk.

Sixx
12-30-2012, 09:22 AM
Just like a boring old cup of tea you can spice it up with whiskey. Go see the hobbit drunk.

I usually watch movies drunk.

It's just that some make me laugh histerically and some make me pass out.

Hell, LotR made me pass out sober.

Lock Jaw
12-30-2012, 10:16 PM
The Hobbit is a lot more fast paced, once it gets past the intro bit and they actually start their "quest".

G
01-01-2013, 10:09 PM
Screener is out.

Blitz
01-01-2013, 10:57 PM
I love awards season. Screeners of Cloud Atlas, Lincoln, The Hobbit, Flight, Skyfall, and the Perks of Being a Wallflower all floating around.

stultiloquy
01-12-2013, 03:11 AM
Saw it yesterday, it was pretty good.
Not LOTR good, but a fun movie nonetheless.

The 3D was serviceable, but I don't think it makes or breaks the experience.

My only real gripe I had was that the CG was a bit much at times - I kept wondering to myself why they didn't use an actual actor and practical effects for Azog like they did for Lurtz and the Uruk-hai in LOTR.
Seems to me they hit the Uncanny Valley with Azog, he looked good...but not good enough, and it took me out of the movie every time he was on screen.

NLO85
01-12-2013, 03:20 PM
I haven't read the book since I was about 12 was there many times that the movie strayed from the source material? I did really enjoy it by the way probably would have liked it even more if it had been released prior to the LoTR. After the quest to destroy the one ring and all evil in Middle Earth a movie about Dwarves looking to reclaim their treasure seemed like a step down in importance...

SlickyTrickyDamon
01-12-2013, 04:35 PM
Since the Hobbit came out after the original trilogy that's all it ever was meant to be.

NLO85
01-12-2013, 04:56 PM
In hindsight if the Hobbit had been released first it would have been a nice welcome to Middle Earth before the real important adventure kicks in...

Kalyx triaD
02-05-2013, 08:24 PM
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Kalyx triaD
06-11-2013, 03:14 PM
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Hanso Amore
06-11-2013, 03:26 PM
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Lock Jaw
06-11-2013, 04:32 PM
Did not care for a lot of the CGI I saw in that trailer. Don't know why.

Corporate CockSnogger
06-11-2013, 04:40 PM
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stultiloquy
06-11-2013, 06:22 PM
I didn't care for the majority of the CGI I saw in the first Hobbit movie, and while I didn't see anything glaring in that trailer, I'm not really confident that the CGI quality will be any better.

It's kind of odd considering how nice Gollum still looks when watching LOTR...not sure why they couldn't achieve that level of quality with The Hobbit.