Best Martial Arts Concentration for fitness

[Nark Order]

I've been on a diet recently and I'm also thinking about getting into martial arts mainly for fitness reasons. I think just learning the trade while I'm getting in shape would be a huge bonus as well. I'm seeing what you guys would think I would benefit the most from?

Obviously kickboxing is the most physically intense ( I think. I'm open for other suggestions to.)

In my area there's:

Kickboxing
Tai Kwon Do
Brazilian Jiu Jitsu
Kenpo
Bok Fu
Mai Thai Kickboxing

I'm sure there are others too. Open to suggestions.

[Funky Fly]

Mai Tai kickboxing sounds awesome. Getting hammered on girly drinks and then fighting? Fuck yes.

[Funky Fly]

Seriously tho, take Muay Thai.

You get in shape and also become a bad ass.

[IC Champion]

I'm about to start taking boxing and wrestling myself, mostly to stay in shape as I hate working out, and would rather do something I enjoy.

[Nark Order]

I'm certain I spelled it Mai Tai because I'm craving one right now. Or anything other than what I've been eating.

[Nark Order]

I'm about to start taking boxing and wrestling myself, mostly to stay in shape as I hate working out, and would rather do something I enjoy.

Yeah, this is basically my scenario.

[Nark Order]

I've been doing alot of cardio to prepare for whatever I'm taking. Last time I went to a kickboxing conditioning class I almost threw up like 4 times and had to sit out a bit.

[Reavant]

muay thai is probably the best for just fitness because of the amount of energy it takes raising your legs up for kicks. Your using your biggest/strongest muscles in your body and repeatedly exploding them up into pads. very strenuous and instantly gets your heart rate up.

you will lose weight and get in shape fast with it.

[IC Champion]

Yeah, this is basically my scenario.

Yeah, lifting weights becomes repetitive and boring.

[Nark Order]

Yeah. Wanted something that I could really get into and learn while losing some weight in the process.

[Reavant]

kickboxing is comparable, but you dont throw as many kicks as you would with muay thai.

boxing is good, but just using your hands isnt as much work as using your legs. Ive only gotten really tired boxing when Im sparring and getting hit a lot.

Wrestling isnt going to help you much unless you have a high caliber partner and and a coach to teach you how to move and put you through the proper drills. Wrestling is the most intense workout, but you have to really know how to wrestle to make it that way.

BJJ is the worst if your trying to get your fitness to a high level, because while the technique is awsome and the art itself is invaluable, it is a very lazy martial art. The idea is to stay relaxed and rely on technique, not cardio.

[IC Champion]

I want to take BJJ too, but they only have Gi-BJJ and gi's are gay and useless.

[Reavant]

im not bashing BJJ. Because if you do nothing and you get into BJJ, then your going to lose weight because your doing an activityy, and you learn A LOT really quick, but it has nothing on the striking martial arts in terms of cardio.

[Krimzon7]

Narc, this is K7 seriously responding to you. As you know, I've been taking Muay Thai and Brazillian Jiu Jitsu since Late Feb/Early March. I started off around 390, with 41 percent body fat. I am 355 right now, with 34.5 percent fat. This combination has been hugely successful for me, and I love the sparring sesisons! You've got to stick with it, the first few days will be tough. See it through my friend. That's my two cents.

Also, I took Tae Kwon Do in my child hood, and I don't remember enough to comment. I would imagine that any kind of boxing would be great...cardio kickboxing is a hell of a workout too. Good luck my friend, and keep me up to date with what you're doing.

you know what, fuck a thread! Let's make a group dedicated to TPWWers who are working out, trying to lose weight. Positive motivation is great for anyone. You game?

[IC Champion]

I've always liked wrestling, and I know its insane work out and crazy training.

[Nark Order]

At this particular kickboxing gym they have strength and conditioning classes that you can go to 3 times a week if you choose to. Then they have the boxing class afterwards.

[Reavant]

I want to take BJJ too, but they only have Gi-BJJ and gi's are gay and useless.

:nono:


they help you in mma and no gi more than you can imagine. Think of running stairs with a 70lb jacket on, getting in shape with it, and then running with out it. Thats what training with a gi is like.

[Krimzon7]

kickboxing is comparable, but you dont throw as many kicks as you would with muay thai.

boxing is good, but just using your hands isnt as much work as using your legs. Ive only gotten really tired boxing when Im sparring and getting hit a lot.

Wrestling isnt going to help you much unless you have a high caliber partner and and a coach to teach you how to move and put you through the proper drills. Wrestling is the most intense workout, but you have to really know how to wrestle to make it that way.

BJJ is the worst if your trying to get your fitness to a high level, because while the technique is awsome and the art itself is invaluable, it is a very lazy martial art. The idea is to stay relaxed and rely on technique, not cardio.

Rev, I totally respect you, but I have to disagree. You're in pretty good shape. For the fatties here (myself included) BJJ is awesome for reactivating muscles, and improving flexibility. And that Gi is a cloth SAUNA! I sweat like mad, when I'm in a rolling session. You can lose decent weight. I wouldn't recommend BJJ as the only art, but it's a great compliment for fitness.

[Reavant]

im not bashing BJJ. Because if you do nothing and you get into BJJ, then your going to lose weight because your doing an activityy, and you learn A LOT really quick, but it has nothing on the striking martial arts in terms of cardio.

[IC Champion]

I've always heard it was better to train without one and get used to grappling with sweat and trying to grip that way.

[Nark Order]

Narc, this is K7 seriously responding to you. As you know, I've been taking Muay Thai and Brazillian Jiu Jitsu since Late Feb/Early March. I started off around 390, with 41 percent body fat. I am 355 right now, with 34.5 percent fat. This combination has been hugely successful for me, and I love the sparring sesisons! You've got to stick with it, the first few days will be tough. See it through my friend. That's my two cents.

Also, I took Tae Kwon Do in my child hood, and I don't remember enough to comment. I would imagine that any kind of boxing would be great...cardio kickboxing is a hell of a workout too. Good luck my friend, and keep me up to date with what you're doing.

you know what, fuck a thread! Let's make a group dedicated to TPWWers who are working out, trying to lose weight. Positive motivation is great for anyone. You game?

lol. I have a social group dedicated to my own weight loss. You can make another one or you can post in mine.

[Krimzon7]

:nono:


they help you in mma and no gi more than you can imagine. Think of running stairs with a 70lb jacket on, getting in shape with it, and then running with out it. Thats what training with a gi is like.

Bingo! now from my experience, Gi helps a lot with your technique as well. For my frame, I like No Gi better because people have less to grab. Each form has deginite pluses/minuses

[Krimzon7]

lol. I have a social group dedicated to my own weight loss. You can make another one or you can post in mine.

selfish ass! :p Cool, I'll hunt it down, and join asap

[Reavant]

I've always heard it was better to train without one and get used to grappling with sweat and trying to grip that way.

no... using a gi makes you have to be a million times more strategic in your technique and attack. Fabricio werdum was a world champion in gi before he switched to no gi

[Nark Order]

And Krimzon, holy fucking hell man. You're a big man. That's awesome that you've lost that much weight since the end of February. Keep at it, it sounds like this is really working for you.

Myself, I'm just a little chubby. I'm 6'3 and around 205-210 lbs. Just looking to get rid of a bit of the flab I've been accumulating by eating all of this junk. Also, I've been looking for a new hobby... bad.

[Reavant]

Rev, I totally respect you, but I have to disagree. You're in pretty good shape. For the fatties here (myself included) BJJ is awesome for reactivating muscles, and improving flexibility. And that Gi is a cloth SAUNA! I sweat like mad, when I'm in a rolling session. You can lose decent weight. I wouldn't recommend BJJ as the only art, but it's a great compliment for fitness.

yes bjj is working for you but compaired to an intense muay thai workout, you are not getting near the same amount of cardio

[IC Champion]

Yeah but's thats Fabricio Werbum, the guy if one of the top BJJ grapplers in the world.

[Reavant]

yea and he started in a gi..... what are you not getting by that example?

[Reavant]

all the best guys started in a gi.... nogiera brothers, demian maia, ricardo arona, florian, BJ Penn, matt serra, all of the gracies.

[IC Champion]

I dunno, if your not wearing a gi in competion wouldn't it be more advantagous to practice without one?

[Nark Order]

I think it's more of a "If you can do this in a Gi, then you can do this wearing anything" type of thing.

[Krimzon7]

At my gym, we cant even roll no Gi until we earn a stripe. It is up to our master's approval.

Now, I will agree that a MT workout is balls out. Jumping rope, shadow boxing, three rounds of heavy bag work, then drills, leg sparring/sparring...shit i'm breathing heavy thinking about it!

[IC Champion]

I think it's more of a "If you can do this in a Gi, then you can do this wearing anything" type of thing.

What about when your not wearing anything, ur both sweaty and there is nothing to grab for leverage?

[Reavant]

I dunno, if your not wearing a gi in competion wouldn't it be more advantagous to practice without one?

just so you know, your second guessing generations of the best BJJ practitioners in the world with that statement.


before you have a nogi competition you take the gi off, but when learning and expanding technique for BJJ, its the best thing for you.

[Krimzon7]

I dunno, if your not wearing a gi in competion wouldn't it be more advantagous to practice without one?


Yes, you're right. But, if youre in a No Gi competition with somebody who is efficient IN a Gi, you will be EFFED in the A.

[IC Champion]

just so you know, your second guessing generations of the best BJJ practitioners in the world with that statement.


before you have a nogi competition you take the gi off, but when learning and expanding technique for BJJ, its the best thing for you.

You and generations of BJJ are probably right, but the place near me is very strict about it.

[IC Champion]

What makes the gi so important?

[Reavant]

What about when your not wearing anything, ur both sweaty and there is nothing to grab for leverage?

you realize that the guy who never trained in a gi still has the problem of the sweaty dude as well.

the submission defense of a guy trained in a gi is lightyears ahead of a guy that never trained in one. your defense has to be perfect in a gi. the slightest opening will give your opponent a chance to finish you. That translates into no gi.

Training without a gi isnt going to make up for a sweaty opponent. You just have to be patient in your positioning and get to a finishing move that will not slip out. This is why you dont see as many later round triangles, arm bars and leg locks, but rather rnc and armless guillotines.

[IC Champion]

See now it makes more sense to me.

[Krimzon7]

The More you know kiddo

[Crossrine]

Wish I had more time to do more than lift weights. Really want to get into a martial art because I love fighting etc but never have the damn time and cant pick which one I want :\
Plus getting bored of lifting all the time and for some reason have this "inferiority complex" where I keep thinking I'm not getting any bigger.


Almost picked up Hung Gar earlier this year during my first semester but a friend talked me out of it by calling it "stupid"

and sorry Narc dont wanna seem as though I'm "making this about me" just felt like semi venting kthxbye

[Reavant]

wait hung gar is real?


i thought it was a fighting style made up for the newer MK games for reptile to use

[Jura]

Most, if not all, of the fighting styles in that one MK game are real.

Anyways if you wanna learn anything you should at least give it a try. Unless you wanna train for something like MMA or competition you shouldn't let anyone decide for you. I wish I could have learned something when I was young but I don't think my parents would have spared money for anything that wasn't for school. My wish was to study and learn a vast amount of Martial Arts. Not just the technical and physical aspects of it but also the philosophy and ties to the country/culture.

Found the list; http://www.earthrealm.com/deadlyalliance/characters.shtml

[Brujesino]

How much does it cost to go to take kickboxing lessons?

At AKA its about 600 plus for 6 months.I know its a top level school but how about some of these smaller schools just to get in shape and learn the basics?

[Krimzon7]

Depends on your location...I pay about 109 per month, to attend my gym. I'm free to take as many Muay Thai, BJJ, Kickboxing and boxing classes that I can physically stand. I also get a weight room, and MMA conditioning classes (which feel an awfully like Boot camp).

[Reavant]

depends how good the instructor/instruction is, how good the facility is, how many members the place has, lol

[El Capitano Gatisto]

I enjoy boxing training. Usually a short (2 mile) run, then some circuits, then 10 3-min rounds of bags with different exercises in between, then some 2 or 3 rounds of sparring. You get used to all that after a few weeks but the sparring after it all is always fucking awful, especially when you get in with a pro. I haven't really lost any weight since I started to be honest, but then I was in decent shape anyway and I've probably added a bit of muscle.

It obviously does mainly work your arms but when you pick up the technique better, that starts to work your legs too. I usually come out of training with tight calves and arse muscles.

I highly recommend it. I'm starting up some hard running again now while the club is easing off for the summer so I can lose some weight and then spend August/Sept. getting in fighting shape for maybe a few fights in the new season.

[Nark Order]

I'm starting a kickboxing/muay thai kickboxing program next week. I'm so stoked for this. Alot of it focuses on cardio and conditioning, with less emphasis on technique, but there are technique classes a couple times a week I can go to if I choose to. One of my friends goes to the same place and he's lost like 22 pounds since he started. He said it's going to kick my ass pretty hard though at first.

Pretty excited.

[Nark Order]

Oh jesus. I'm really wrong about the "minimal technique" thing. My friedn nearly knocked my head when he heard I got that impression. Apparently they really look down on "cardio kickboxing" classes. I guess I'll just have to go there and then report.

[The Mask]

you'll probably move more if you take the technique classes anyway since usually good technique involves you moving all/most of your body in some way.

plus, don't be a girl.

[Nark Order]

I've gone to three classes so far. They've been fucking hell but awesome at the same time. I'm in such horrible shape but this is going to force me to get shit done right quick. Love it so far.

[The Mask]

it's good. usually i am okay after a few classes, like i don't know that my fitness goes up but i am a lot more prepared for the agony mentally, so it doesn't seem as bad. at that point i can do a bajillion pressups and whatnot.

[Nark Order]

Couple of women in there doing it with no problem and I'm gasping for my life.

[The Mask]

i reckon it's easier for women since they have better leg flexibility and all. kicks at any height above waist killed me :'(

[RoXer]

If you wish to find out the greatest fighting techniques, you should go to one of those annual allstar fighting expos they hold.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

I went back to boxing training on Monday night for the first time in a month, only a light session but I am in a fair bit of pain. Hurts to laugh, push out a turd, breath deeply etc. Basically my entire trunk, back and shoulders region is bingoed everywhere. Going to give it a miss tonight and play some football instead, then get back into it on Friday.