Would you be interested in a 'Fantasy Booking' competition? (SEASON ONE BOOKERS AND JUDGES POSTED)

[Anybody Thrilla]

An idea I had, and there are still some kinks to iron out...but first I want to see if you guys would be interested.

Basically, we'd start with a huge pool of active wrestlers. We'd keep it mainstream (WWE, TNA, and I guess ROH too). The participants would go through a draft, selecting one person at a time until everybody had something like 15-20 workers. You would name your organization, create some titles, form tag teams if you'd like, yadda yadda yadda. From there, you would book a show on paper, using at least a decent amount of detail as to what would happen during matches/segments. Maybe you'd end up booking four TV shows, leading up to a PPV.

From there, people who aren't participating would rank the shows on a scale of 1 to 10, based on how they would enjoy seeing what you booked on television. After we get to the PPV round, all of the average ratings would be tallied (maybe we can even make the PPV count double), and the highest average rating would be named the winner for that 'season'. Then, we would start a season with completely new feds and new bookers. After five seasons or so, we could have an Ultimate Booker Showdown, pitting the five winners against each other in a new season to see who the best of the best really is.

I know this all sounds scatterbrained right now and I'm skipping over a bunch of details, but I think it could be a lot of fun. I'm offering to be the one to keep track of scores and post deadlines and such, but I'm sure I could definitely use some help from some of you guys.

How does this sound to you? Would you be interested in participating? Any suggestions? Let's talk about it. :y:

[Schlomey]

I'm down. I love fantasy shit.

[CSL]

I saw the word 'draft' and became interested. Autoplay needs turning back on for it. Maybe older/dead wrestlers could be used depending how you work it out.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Realistically, I'd probably only run like 5 companies at a time so the that the task doesn't become too daunting. If it catches on, maybe we can do a few more companies for future seasons.

Also, I think Noid should be given a spot in the first season. Just saying.

[VSG]

How long does a season last?

[Anybody Thrilla]

I was thinking four TV shows and a PPV. We could stretch it for a month, or we could book two shows a week to make things go faster.

Nothing is set in stone, here. I'm completely open to suggestions.

[Anybody Thrilla]

I was also thinking about a 'Star Power' bonus for the PPVs, which I'll go into further detail about after I feed this baby.

[Jeritron]

You should have the submitted to a volunteer who would post them to be ranked anonymously.
I say this because the author will probably have an effect on how the booking is recieved and enjoyed.
Noid would get glanced over or criticized for being Noid, and "jobber" posters wouldn't be taken as seriously as a lot of the established posters.
I say this to look out for them, as taker707 or whatever could book a better show than you or I, but TPWW would probably never recognize that if names were on them.

[Anybody Thrilla]

That's a good idea. If people PMed me their shows, I could just post them under the company's name. :y:

[Anybody Thrilla]

OK, about the 'Star Power' bonus....

I would like to have an esteemed team of judges who would comprise a 'weekly' (after each TV show round) Top 10 list for the entire 'universe', based on their performances on shows that are getting the best ratings and whatnot. The criteria will be completely up to the judges, just to add an element of randomness to it. The Top 10 may fluctuate from TV round to TV round, but when it comes time for the PPV round, a company can get bonus points for each Top 10 wrestler they have featured on their card.

The board of judges are a way to get more people 'directly involved' without them actually running a company, and I figure the judges would change each season. Possibly even week to week.

[XL]

This sounds interesting :y:

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Hell yes. In fact, if you head over to the Wrestling Sim topic in the VG forum, I post all the shows I book in my WWE EWR game. Love stuff like this.

http://www.tpww.net/forums/showpost.php?p=3141726&postcount=2127

There's a sample.</font>

[Anybody Thrilla]

I would also like to factor in random injuries. If every wrestler has a 'number' attached to him/her (1 through whatever the fuck), it'd be easy enough to generate a random number and say that person is injured for a week/two weeks/all season. That factor may work better with a longer season, though.

[Loose Cannon]

yea, seems cool. definately keep it around 5. I don't think there's too many people on here who would be able to do the work consistently. I know I would get bored after Day 1 from all the typing.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Yeah, that's why I want to keep a short season. Honestly, it really wouldn't be TOO much typing.

What do you think would be a good roster size? 10? 15? 20?

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>20-25 would be good. That's roughly the number of male wrestlers on a WWE brand.</font>

[Anybody Thrilla]

Yeah...and you obviously wouldn't have to use ALL of them on every show. Companys would have to state their projected segment/match lengths as well, not to exceed two hours on TV, three hours on PPV.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Also, so we wouldn't have to wait for people to post their initial draft picks, each company head could provide a priority list of the wrestlers they would like. When it's the company's draft turn, the highest available on the priority list will go to that roster.

[VSG]

Well I know I don't have the time to enter the competition this "season", so I put forth my name as a possible judge. This should be fun.

[Lock Jaw]

I'd totally do it.

But I laugh at including ROH as "mainstream".

[#1-norm-fan]

Count me in. I haven't done fantasy booking in years. Sounds like fun.

[Swiss Ultimate]

An idea I had, and there are still some kinks to iron out...but first I want to see if you guys would be interested.

Basically, we'd start with a huge pool of active wrestlers. We'd keep it mainstream (WWE, TNA, and I guess ROH too). The participants would go through a draft, selecting one person at a time until everybody had something like 15-20 workers. You would name your organization, create some titles, form tag teams if you'd like, yadda yadda yadda. From there, you would book a show on paper, using at least a decent amount of detail as to what would happen during matches/segments. Maybe you'd end up booking four TV shows, leading up to a PPV.

From there, people who aren't participating would rank the shows on a scale of 1 to 10, based on how they would enjoy seeing what you booked on television. After we get to the PPV round, all of the average ratings would be tallied (maybe we can even make the PPV count double), and the highest average rating would be named the winner for that 'season'. Then, we would start a season with completely new feds and new bookers. After five seasons or so, we could have an Ultimate Booker Showdown, pitting the five winners against each other in a new season to see who the best of the best really is.

I know this all sounds scatterbrained right now and I'm skipping over a bunch of details, but I think it could be a lot of fun. I'm offering to be the one to keep track of scores and post deadlines and such, but I'm sure I could definitely use some help from some of you guys.

How does this sound to you? Would you be interested in participating? Any suggestions? Let's talk about it. :y:

You should be able to draft a tag team in one turn.

[#1-norm-fan]

I don't know about that. There would be a lot of problems as far as "What constitutes a tag team". It would be much easier to just spend two picks on people and try to form your own tag teams or try to draft established ones if you can.

Then again I guess it MIGHT work if you specify who is together early on. Hart Dynasty counts as one, Usos count as one, Beer Money, etc. But the problem I see with mot teams outside, say, The Usos is that maybe I wanna use D.H. Smith and have no need for Tyson Kidd. Then what? I HAVE to draft both?

[Swiss Ultimate]

Briscoes, American Wolves, Dudleys, WGTT etc...obviously they'd have to be current so someone couldn't get around the system and take Edge and Christian.

[Flash Funk]

I would love to contribute in any way..I know I am new so if I cannot be an actual participant, I will judge or whatever else needs to be done.

[RiX1024]

sounds awesome, i'll defo judge if booking is solid.

[Swiss Ultimate]

I think we should make a rule that nobody can turn John Cena heel.

[RiX1024]

dang there goes my plan.

[Majunior]

I know I'm a new poster (long time site follower, but new to the forums), but if there's an opening I would enjoy getting involved in this as well. I'd like to book, but if that's full I can judge instead.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Nothing's full yet. I'd love to give some newer guys a spot. Now that I know there's interest, I'll start the wheels forward. Trying to decide the most fair way to pick the first season of bookers, though. Numbers from a hat?

[Anybody Thrilla]

I might take ROH out of it with so few bookers.

[CSL]

Posters from english cities beginning with 'W' should probably get priority.

[The Pope]

Speaking of weird things, where can i get the newest EWR thingy?

[BizarroKing]

Think I could be a part of this? I saw this and it's one of the reasons I joined. Repeat: ONE of the reasons, not THE reason.

[Destor]

I wanna be a judge!

[Destor]

(also roh should exist in this. think of the roh roster as bringing someone up from a farming system. you get em to the stage and amke em somebody...just my opinion.)

[Lock Jaw]

I don't think ROH should be included.

1) Not everybody knows and is familiar with the talent in ROH.

2) Those that are aware have a good chance of going "OMGGGG ROH GUYS, THIS ONE WINS"

[Destor]

its all about how they book em, not who theyre booking. you can book a great worker to be shit and shit worker to be great. and as booker its their job to make you care about their wrestlers, if anything less known guys present a greater challenge. if someone wants to take that on why not? isnt that the concept? like, this is a book off, yeah?

(ps-i dont think roh should be punished because it doesnt have a show on basic cable. their top workers are known by least at name by practially all of tpww. and in all reality any could be pulled up to TNA/wwe at any momoment. if someone wants and roh guy i dont see why they shouldnt be allowed to have em.)

[Flash Funk]

If including ROH and recent past guys ( I am talking like DDP or Malenko, not Gorgeous George) then we would be able to have more bookers...just a thought

[CSL]

'Too many cooks' and all that. Go small first and if it's 'successful' then more. IMO.

[VSG]

I guess ROH guys might not make it to the "super card" but like Destor went, it doesn't matter anywhere else. Anyway there seem to be more volunteers for judges than actual participants :lol:

[Destor]

3 bookers yeah?

[BizarroKing]

Could I possibly try being a booker? I can be a judge if u rly want, but I think I can book a event.

[Swiss Ultimate]

Are we counting me as a booker or not?

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I definitely want to book.</font>

[DAMN iNATOR]

I'd love to partake in this.

[Paul Heyman]

I've participated in loads of these, with some great results, and I've also helped run them. So if you need a hand, lemme know..

Also, i'm up for booking if there is a spot.

[Anybody Thrilla]

I'm trying to decide a fair way to decide who the bookers for season one will be. Any ideas?

[Anybody Thrilla]

Also Destor, I was hoping you would get involved on the judge side.

[VSG]

Just have the interested parties pick a number and I am sure there is a program out there that will randomly choose 3 (or how many bookies you want) of those numbers.

[VSG]

Also Destor, I was hoping you would get involved on the judge side.

I wanna be a judge!

[Providence Peep]

Would anyone here be interested in a three-way with Orton and Cena?

[Anybody Thrilla]

I know that VSG...I was saying that I was glad he showed interest, you son of a bitch.

[VSG]

Then make it sound that way, with an exclamation mark or something that begins with "Ah, Destor!"

Note however that too much of that sounds like an orgasm :lol:

[Anybody Thrilla]

OK, this is the list of people I think are interested bookers right now:

Schlomey
CSL
XL
Big Vito 22
Lock Jaw
#1-wwf-fan
DeathtotheSwiss
Flash Funk
RiX1024
Majunior
Bizarro King
DAMN iNATOR
Paul Heyman
Kapoutman
Snowden
Dr.Perfect

Judges:

Destor
VSG
thedamndest
jerichoholicninja

I'll give it a little more time to let some other people get a chance to be selected. Destor and VSG are confirmed judges, if they'd like to be. I'd like to get anywhere between five and ten judges.

I was also thinking if a participant doesn't meet the deadline, the people who weren't selected to book can be on a 'reserve list' and the first person on the list can take over the company that no showed? Maybe?

[Anybody Thrilla]

Then make it sound that way, with an exclamation mark or something that begins with "Ah, Destor!"

Note however that too much of that sounds like an orgasm :lol:

Exclamation point? Fuck outta here.

[VSG]

I was hoping you would be persuaded into it, but alas!

On a serious note, I confirm my place as a judge. This should be fun.

[BizarroKing]

Thanx, this is something I really would be interested in trying out. IF I get chosen that is :P

[Anybody Thrilla]

I'm thinking instead of just averaging the show ratings, there'll just be a cumlative score which will include the average from each TV show and the average from the PPV TWICE so that bonus points can be tacked on for star power or whatever else we may decide deserves bonus points. Maybe there can be a bonus for 'Show of the Week'?

[Anybody Thrilla]

If the draw doesn't go your way BizarroKing, you can be a judge.

[Anybody Thrilla]

3 bookers yeah?

I was thinking five bookers. Is that too much?

[Anybody Thrilla]

I'll take applications up until midnight tonight. I really want to get the ball rolling on this.

[Flash Funk]

All right well I am just confirming my interest in being a booker... have a good 4th everyone!

[Kapoutman]

I'll try as a booker.

[BizarroKing]

If the draw doesn't go your way BizarroKing, you can be a judge.

Fair enough.

[XL]

Although I wouldn't mind being a booker, I'm happy to take a backseat/judge role, etc this time around to let others get in on the action.

[Anybody Thrilla]

You're in the drawing, XL. YOU COULD BE A PIONEER!

[Destor]

that post of "3 bookers" was in response to someone asking how many bookers there were at the point. there seems to be a high interest in this so 5+ may not be a terrible idea.

and yes i want to be a judge. i like the idea of bonuses tho i dont know how they would work. as far as scoring i think possibly each judge scores each show on a scale on 1 - 10 tally all judges votes up whom ever has the highest score is in the lead. ppv is the finish line.

[thedamndest]

I will judge this.

[Destor]

i definitly like bonus points for best of the week..and back to the actual scoring itself...what if, k say you 5 bookers for example. have it where each judge ranks them 1-5 and then those figures are tallied...justa thought.

[Snowden]

I'd love to give this a whirl...completely cool if I'm on the reserve list tho, as I'd imagine my jobber-ness and late entry will kinda hinder my chances. Lemme know.

[jerichoholicninja]

I'll judge. With my eyes. Watching and judging.

But seriously I'd judge.

[Anybody Thrilla]

i definitly like bonus points for best of the week..and back to the actual scoring itself...what if, k say you 5 bookers for example. have it where each judge ranks them 1-5 and then those figures are tallied...justa thought.

Like award a set number of points for your rank? For instance, the first place winner of the week gets five points and the fifth place gets one point?

[The Pope]

Sign Me up

[Anybody Thrilla]

I'd love to give this a whirl...completely cool if I'm on the reserve list tho, as I'd imagine my jobber-ness and late entry will kinda hinder my chances. Lemme know.

It's not your fault that you're 'late'. I'll allow people to express intrest in booking until midnight tonight, then I'll use a random number generator to select the 'season one' participants. You have just as much of a chance as anyone else at this point.

Pretty sure I'm going to just leave it at 5 bookers for season one. If people like it, maybe we'll add more for season two.

[The Pope]

Do we get hired in a real wrestling promotion if we win?

[Anybody Thrilla]

Yes. That is the grand prize.

[The Pope]

Hell Yeah!!

[Destor]

Like award a set number of points for your rank? For instance, the first place winner of the week gets five points and the fifth place gets one point?

yeah pretty much. if you had five guys booking who ever that judge felt had the best show would get 5 points. 2nd best would get 4. so on and so forth. then take all the judges scores and add them up for their official standings.

but thats just one of a 1,000 ways you could do this.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Ohhh, yeah, I like that. :y:

[Anybody Thrilla]

I think ten will be a good number of judges for season one.

[The Pope]

What about if we have a limited amount of rosters/promotions created and have those posters hire other posters as bookers, writers, etc?

[Anybody Thrilla]

Like teams? I guess that would be OK.

[Jeritron]

I would like to judge or book. Whichever you can fit me in as or think I'd be best suited for

[Anybody Thrilla]

I'll mark you down to possibly book, and if you don't get selected, you'll judge. Cool?

[Destor]

Ohhh, yeah, I like that. :y:

yeah that is essentially how they do the Power 25 rankings on wwe.com. 10-ish road agents vote using that system. a vote for 1st from one judge =25 for example.

[Jeritron]

Cool

[The Pope]

I would like to be a booker :shifty:

[Majunior]

I can't wait to see how this works out. :)

[Destor]

how many bookers are you gonna have?

[Evil Vito]

What about if we have a limited amount of rosters/promotions created and have those posters hire other posters as bookers, writers, etc?

<font color=goldenrod>I don't really like that idea. Mainly because if I have a promotion, I want full control.</font>

[Anybody Thrilla]

how many bookers are you gonna have?

Five

[Destor]

<font color=goldenrod>I don't really like that idea. Mainly because if I have a promotion, I want full control.</font>

i would assume you wouldnt be forced to have "help"

[Anybody Thrilla]

If it works out well, maybe we'll go ten for season two and include ROH (which I decided I'm not going to for the inaugural season).

[The Pope]

And writers?

[Anybody Thrilla]

I don't feel there should be any rules AGAINST getting help, as long as people think that's 'fair'. Remember, the long term goal is to do a 'best of the best' eventually.

[Anybody Thrilla]

And writers?

I figured whoever the bookers were would be doing the writing too. If you feel you want to just put the matches together and 'hire' somebody else to make them interesting, that's all on you.

[The Pope]

There's no $ limit right?

[Anybody Thrilla]

You mean for hiring workers? No. If your draft picks are available when it's your turn, then they're all yours.

[The Pope]

When will this whole thing start?

[Destor]

so how are you going to pick who gets to book first?

[Anybody Thrilla]

Here's an updated list for this page:


Potential bookers:
Schlomey
CSL*
XL
Big Vito 22
Lock Jaw
#1-wwf-fan
DeathtotheSwiss
Flash Funk
RiX1024
Majunior
Bizarro King*
DAMN iNATOR
Paul Heyman
Kapoutman
Snowden
Dr.Perfect*
Jeritron*

The asteriks denote those who indicated that they would like to judge in the event of not being selected to book

Judges:

Destor
VSG
thedamndest
jerichoholicninja

[The Pope]

Here's an updated list for this page:


Potential bookers:
Schlomey
CSL
XL
Big Vito 22
Lock Jaw
#1-wwf-fan
DeathtotheSwiss
Flash Funk
RiX1024
Majunior
Bizarro King
DAMN iNATOR
Paul Heyman
Kapoutman
Snowden
Dr.Perfect
Jeritron

Judges:

Destor
VSG
thedamndest
jerichoholicninja

[The Pope]

Who will be the owners?

[Anybody Thrilla]

When will this whole thing start?

As soon as I decide the bookers, I'll compile the roster and give the bookers a couple days to compile a draft priority list complete with their company's name on it. Once I receive all those, I'll do the draft and post the rosters for everyone to see. From there, I'll set a deadline for the first week of television shows, hopefully all within the upcoming week.

so how are you going to pick who gets to book first?

http://www.random.org/

At midnight tonight, I'll stop accepting potential bookers and number the people one through whatever. I'll generate five random numbers, and those five will be the bookers.

[Anybody Thrilla]

How do we feel about the name 'Armchair Warfare'?

[BizarroKing]

So what rosters will be included, and do the draft picks include divas/knockouts?

Also, what will the schedule be? 4 TV shows and a PPV? And we get to name our company?

[BizarroKing]

How do we feel about the name 'Armchair Warfare'?

That's a clever title.

[Majunior]

For what it's worth, I'm leaning towards people doing this by themselves.

That being said, it's obvious it would have to be the honor system. After all, this is the internet... nothing is to stop someone from getting e-mails and PMs to help out their show.

Or, God forbid, talking to real life friends. O.O

[CSL]

I'm happy to judge should I not wind up booking.

[CSL]

For what it's worth, I'm leaning towards people doing this by themselves.

That being said, it's obvious it would have to be the honor system. After all, this is the internet... nothing is to stop someone from getting e-mails and PMs to help out their show.

Or, God forbid, talking to real life friends. O.O

I dunno, if somebody can get some help from somewhere, then I say fair play to them. People could maybe come clean after the first round/season etc is finished, might add to it.

[The Pope]

I'm happy to judge should I not wind up booking.
Me too

[Anybody Thrilla]

So what rosters will be included, and do the draft picks include divas/knockouts?

Also, what will the schedule be? 4 TV shows and a PPV? And we get to name our company?

For the first season, we'll include the WWE and TNA rosters, male and female workers. I'm just going to go ahead and set the rosters to 25 per company.

The bookers will be judged on four television shows and a pay per view, where points will count double. You get to name your company so we can maintain a sort of anonimity to the shows (to try and prevent personal bias).

I've also just decided that most of the 'judging' will be done by the 'board of judges', but I also want to add bonus points for a public poll which will be open for anybody in the TPWW Universe to vote on which show was their favorite that week. Discussion will be encouraged amongst them so that the bookers will know what people are enjoying and not enjoying about their shows.

[Majunior]

CSL, I just think it puts people who want to do it by themselves to see what they are capable of -- assuming there are people other than just me with that mindset -- at a disadvantage.

But like I said, if people want help they'll get it anyway.

On the flipside, it would make for an interesting situation (bragging rights at least) if the winner did all his shows by himself and beat out people who worked in teams.

[CSL]

Are there 125 active workers across WWE and TNA?

[Anybody Thrilla]

Are there 125 active workers across WWE and TNA?

Including Divas and such, I think so.

[Majunior]

Well, if we include some sort of "Alumni" section there would be... a selection of wrestlers from the past... or if we include other "staff" in our picks such as ring announcers, play by play, a few key positions like that, then a 25 person "staff roster" could work.

But if it's just currently active wrestlers, I think coming up with 125 names from just two companies is a daunting task.

[The Pope]

Announcers are not going to help in a text based game

[Anybody Thrilla]

I counted a soft 71 for male and female workers on Raw and Smackdown alone. That's not even including NXT or TNA's entire roster. Should be fine.

[VSG]

What about tv time? 4 hours per week including promo's and fights but not including ads?

[Anybody Thrilla]

Should I drop the number to 20? I almost wanted to say 15 even, but I want some room for tag teams.

[VSG]

But if it's just currently active wrestlers, I think coming up with 125 names from just two companies is a daunting task.

There are atleast 150 active roster members, the question is: Do you need ref's, announcers etc?

[Anybody Thrilla]

What about tv time? 4 hours per week including promo's and fights but not including ads?

Yeah, we'll just pretend this is all paid for by Donald Trump.

[Anybody Thrilla]

What if there was a reserve list of announcers and other on-air non wrestling talent that I just left up for grabs in a thread? They wouldn't be counted towards your roster number, but if you're booking and you feel you could use one of them, PM me, and I'll edit the thread to show what company they have been claimed by.

[Anybody Thrilla]

If we do that, then I'll lower the roster number to 20.

[BizarroKing]

If we do that, then I'll lower the roster number to 20.

Meh 25 might work, though if not, 20 is fine I suppose. Independent workers don't count? Does that mean no Daniel Bryan?

[Majunior]

I still think picking announcers and whatnot could add a certain feel to your promotion. I understand it's a text based format, but saying Mean Gene is interviewing your world champ backstage is far more evocative than "Champ is interviewed by nameless interviewer."

I like the idea of picking all the pieces. What can I say.

[Majunior]

Sounds like an awesome idea.

[Anybody Thrilla]

I like where your head's at, Majunior. I hope you become a booker.

[Anybody Thrilla]

I'll probably throw Daniel Bryan and Batista into the mix, just because.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I kinda wanna just focus this on in-ring. 25 wrestlers would be a perfect number, it'd get nearly everybody in WWE and TNA involved.

Announcers can create problems. Whoever gets stuck with Michael Cole will get penalized by voters even though it might just be due to the mercy of the draft.</font>

[VSG]

You are tugging at the floodgates there, by allowing Bryan and Dave in.

[Anybody Thrilla]

<font color=goldenrod>I kinda wanna just focus this on in-ring. 25 wrestlers would be a perfect number, it'd get nearly everybody in WWE and TNA involved.

Announcers can create problems. Whoever gets stuck with Michael Cole will get penalized by voters even though it might just be due to the mercy of the draft.</font>

Yeah, I think I'm just going to stick to the free agents open to be claimed by anyone idea.

[Swiss Ultimate]

So, could you post an update with the current judges, bookers and allowable wrestlers?

[Anybody Thrilla]

You are tugging at the floodgates there, by allowing Bryan and Dave in.

True. Somebody's probably going to want Paul London or Brian Kendrick. Maybe I should just leave them out.

[CSL]

I'd go with 20 wrestlers and some kind of supplemental thing for announcers/other on air talent, as long as everyone gets a fair crack at them.

[Anybody Thrilla]

So, could you post an update with the current judges, bookers and allowable wrestlers?

Not yet. The bookers and judges aren't confirmed yet.

[Anybody Thrilla]

I'd go with 20 wrestlers and some kind of supplemental thing for announcers/other on air talent, as long as everyone gets a fair crack at them.

I really hope people only use them when they need them, and not just to take them from other people. What if there was a rule that said any selected free agents must be used in the next round, or they'll be put back into the free agent pool?

[Anybody Thrilla]

Maybe I WILL post a proposed list of usuable workers for now and give you guys some time to convince me that other ones belong. BRB.

[BizarroKing]

We aren't going to be limited to "TV-PG" right?

[Majunior]

I like where your head's at, Majunior. I hope you become a booker.

Thanks. :) I hope so too.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I'd be okay with allowing anybody who was fired from WWE or TNA within the past year to be involved...just because I think good use would be made from some of those guys, plus it allows more choice...but whatev.</font>

[Anybody Thrilla]

WWE RAW ROSTER:

Chris Jericho
Darren Young
DH Smith
David Otunga
Edge
Evan Bourne
Ezekiel Jackson
Goldust
The Great Khali
Heath Slater
Jey Uso
Jimmy Uso
John Cena
John Morrison
Justin Gabriel
Mark Henry
Michael Tarver
The Miz
Primo
R-Truth
Randy Orton
Santino Marella
Sheamus
Skip Sheffield
Ted Dibiase
Triple H
Tyson Kidd
Vladimir Kozlov
Wade Barrett
Yoshi Tatsu
Zack Ryder

DIVAS:

Alicia Fox
Brie Bella
Eve
Gail Kim
Jillian
Maryse
Melina
Natalya
Nikki Bella
Tamina

WWE SMACKDOWN ROSTER:

The Big Show
Caylen Croft
Chavo Guerrero
Chris Masters
Christian
CM Punk
Cody Rhodes
Curt Hawkins
Dolph Ziggler
Drew McIntyre
Jack Swagger
JTG
Kane
Kofi Kingston
Luke Gallows
Matt Hardy
MVP
Rey Mysterio
Shad Gaspard
Trent Barreta
Tyler Reks
The Undertaker
Vance Archer

DIVAS:

Beth Phoenix
Kelly Kelly
Layla
Michelle McCool
Rosa Mendes
Tiffany

WWE NXT:

Alex Riley
Eli Cottonwood
Husky Harris
Kaval
Lucky Cannon
Michael McGillicutty
Percy Watson
Titus O’Neil

TNA ROSTER:

Abyss
AJ Styles
Alex Shelley
Amazing Red
Brian Kendrick
Brother Devon
Brother Ray
Chris Sabin
D’Angelo Dinero
Desmond Wolfe
Douglas Williams
Dr. Stevie
Eric Young
Hernandez
Homicide
James Storm
Jay Lethal
Jeff Hardy
Jeff Jarrett
Jeremy Buck
Jesse Neal
Kazarian
Kevin Nash
Kurt Angle
Magnus
Matt Morgan
Max Buck
Mick Foley
Mr. Anderson
Okada
Orlando Jordan
Raven
Rhino
Ric Flair
Robert Roode
Rob Terry
Rob Van Dam
Samoa Joe
Shannon Moore
Shark Boy
Sting
Suicide
Tomko
Tommy Dreamer

TNA KNOCKOUTS:

Angelina Love
Daffney
Hamada
Lacey Von Erich
Madison Rayne
Rosie Lottalove
Sarita
Taylor Wilde
Velvet Sky

[Majunior]

Here's a random thought.

Since the PPV should be our promotion's equivalent of Wrestlemania (after all, the point is to put on the best show possible), along with "supplemental talent" like interviewers and announcers, what about celebs?

What I was thinking was, for the PPV, 3 celeb spots that could be utilized. I suppose if you needed a celeb to show up on a weekly show to build an angle for the PPV that could be allowed... I mean if you wanted to do something like the Tyson angle, or even the old Mr. T or Lawrence Taylor things of years past.

But the idea, at least how I envisioned it, was -- much like the other on-air talent -- just to add a sense of depth to what we present. You can state that Nicole Scherzinger sings the national anthem, or that Disturbed plays Stone Cold to the ring with the "Glass Shatters" music, or whatever works for your show.

And if you don't want to use any celebrity backing? Roll without it. Your call.

Sorry, I grew up with RPGs, so this type of "mood setting" stuff kinda comes naturally for me. Yeah, I'm a nerd.

[VSG]

That sounds viciously detailed for a intro season of this thing.

[Anybody Thrilla]

I'd be fine with one celeb spot to use for TV weeks and three celeb spots for the PPV if you so choose. Celebs wouldn't be on written contracts anyway, so they should all be open to anyone.

[Anybody Thrilla]

I just wouldn't want anyone to overdo the celeb thing.

[Majunior]

That sounds viciously detailed for a intro season of this thing.

The celeb idea?

I don't know... I think most any of us have watched a show and thought, "Jeez, I wish they would have had so-and-so sing the anthem instead of this talentless hack" or something similar.

[BizarroKing]

I might have a few celeb ideas lol.

So the PPV is supposedly our "Wrestlemania"

[CSL]

I'd leave out celebrities, it's a month of booking, doesn't need to be WrestleMania/Starrcade month. The emphasis should remain on how well you can essentially write 4 weeks of TV and a PPV.

In terms of announcers/on screen talent, I think maybe allowing anybody currently under contract to either WWE or TNA but not as a wrestler should be eligible. So for example, if for some reason you want to have Dean Malenko as your lead announcer, Simon Diamond as your backstage interviewer and Terry Taylor as your ring announcer, you can.

[Majunior]

I just wouldn't want anyone to overdo the celeb thing.

No, I totally agree. But, I think that could be a self-correcting problem. I mean, if a booker runs anything into the ground, it's going to reflect in their ratings. If the PPV rolls around and it's a nonstop celeb love-in, it will kill their rating. Ideally, if misused, the problem is it's own fix.

[Anybody Thrilla]

I might have a few celeb ideas lol.

So the PPV is supposedly our "Wrestlemania"

It doesn't HAVE to be, but it will be your last shot at points at very least, and the last booking you'll do for your company.

[Majunior]

I'd leave out celebrities, it's a month of booking, doesn't need to be WrestleMania/Starrcade month. The emphasis should remain on how well you can essentially write 4 weeks of TV and a PPV.


I have to ask... if the idea is to present the best month of wrestling programming possible, which by default it more or less is, why would we treat it as anything but our "big month?" After all, Wrestlemania is supposedly the PPV where the WWE puts on their best matches and resolves their biggest storylines. (I know, I know, opinions differ.) It is the month where everyone in WWE is expected to bring their very best to everything they do.

That being said... that is exactly what every booker in this thing will be doing.

[CSL]

It's a company that doesn't exist. There is no WrestleMania. It doesn't all need to be so 'WWE'. The best booking in the history of wrestling has just been well written conflict and resolution, not overbooked, overblown gimmick fests with celebrities, guest bands etc. Somebody singing a national anthem is fine but in terms of this game, it feels completely unnecessary. If you want somebody to sing a national anthem, pick Jillian Hall.

[Destor]

1. armchair warfare is awesome
2. i say from a personal level who ever is calling your show isnt going to gain you any favor from me
3. same for interviewers
4. and celebrities
5. with only 5 shows to get your guys over 20 is more than enough of a roster

[CSL]

The main reason from my point of view for giving announcers/interviewers 'a face' is to make it a bit more attractive for people joining (they might want to use somebody specific) and as somebody mentioned, it looks a bit better than 'Joe Bloggs is being interviewed' for the sake of authenticity. Shouldn't be at all important though, more of a personal choice.

[Destor]

and more power to them for using lawler or whatever, alls i`m sayin is i will completely uneffected.

[BizarroKing]

I don't see the point of booking announcers if it's mostly going to be text

[Majunior]

It's a company that doesn't exist. There is no WrestleMania. It doesn't all need to be so 'WWE'. The best booking in the history of wrestling has just been well written conflict and resolution, not overbooked, overblown gimmick fests with celebrities, guest bands etc. Somebody singing a national anthem is fine but in terms of this game, it feels completely unnecessary. If you want somebody to sing a national anthem, pick Jillian Hall.

Personal opinion, but Wrestlemania X is my favorite Wrestlemania. It had all of that -- well written conflict and resolution, plenty of build to support the stories, etc. etc. Especially the Owen/Bret/Luger/Yokozuna series. But there were still other things. Plenty of celebs made appearances. Generally, it didn't detract from the event in any way.

Besides, the celebrities don't have any impact on the game itself, any more than announcers/interviewers do. (Barring some sort of celeb match angle, but I digress.) Besides, as was mentioned, it would be a "use it if you want, ignore it if you want" feature you can use, but don't have to. I personally like the idea of leaving the option open, for those who want it, but if people are that against it, scrap it.

[screech]

I'm down for being a judge if there are still open spots.

[Anybody Thrilla]

You got it, screech.

Here's an updated list for this page:


Potential bookers:
Schlomey
CSL*
XL*
Big Vito 22
#1-wwf-fan
DeathtotheSwiss
Flash Funk
RiX1024
Majunior
Bizarro King*
DAMN iNATOR
Paul Heyman
Kapoutman
Snowden
Dr.Perfect*
Jeritron*
James Steele*
Noid?

The asteriks denote those who indicated that they would like to judge in the event of not being selected to book

Judges:

Destor
VSG
thedamndest
jerichoholicninja
screech
Lock Jaw

Looks like I could use one more judge.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Possibly more, depending on who gets the booker spots.

[CSL]

I'll judge if you want, probably best anyways since if somebody like Noid or Vito really go in depth, I doubt I'll have the time to compete in the next month or so.

[VSG]

Speaking of Noid, he has not responded yet.

[James Steele]

I am interested in both booking and judging.

[Anybody Thrilla]

I halfway want to at least throw Noid's name in the hat, but that doesn't seem too fair.

[BizarroKing]

I halfway want to at least throw Noid's name in the hat, but that doesn't seem too fair.

Could always throw him in and then if he says he doesn't want to he can or w/e

[XL]

1. Can I get an an astrix added to my name?
2. I don't like the idea of celeb picks.
3. Whilst I'm not fussed about the interviewer/announcer picks I would like to be able to pick some kind of "official" to use as a GM/commissioner/owner type
4) Given how people are getting into this idea, I'm suprised none of you have signed up for the c-feds.

[XL]

I halfway want to at least throw Noid's name in the hat, but that doesn't seem too fair.
I want Noid in there...as long as I don't have to book against him :p

[BizarroKing]

4) Given how people are getting into this idea, I'm suprised none of you have signed up for the c-feds.

I'll try this first and then we'll see from there.

[CSL]

The e-fed used to be 'the shit' when I was like 15/16. C-fedding has always struck me as effort though, arsing around with all the pictures and that.

[Anybody Thrilla]

I might just make the new deadline 9 PM tonight, Eastern standard. That's half an hour, btw.

[Destor]

i really want noid in here :(

[Lock Jaw]

K, so, I probably won't actually have time to do this.

So I'd like to be taken off the potential bookers list and moved to the judge list.

Or I can totally be on-air talent. :shifty:

[XL]

The e-fed used to be 'the shit' when I was like 15/16. C-fedding has always struck me as effort though, arsing around with all the pictures and that.
TBF, as an experienced c-fedder I think this fantasy booking will be much harder than stringing a few sentances together with some pictures for a c-fed promo.

[Anybody Thrilla]

REGISTRATION CLOSED

Here's the list of potential bookers and their respective numbers for the generator:

1. Schlomey
2. CSL*
3. XL*
4. Big Vito 22
5. #1-wwf-fan
6. DeathtotheSwiss
7. Flash Funk
8. RiX1024
9. Majunior
10. Bizarro King*
11. DAMN iNATOR
12. Paul Heyman
13. Kapoutman
14. Snowden
15. Dr.Perfect*
16. Jeritron*
17. James Steele*
18. Noid

I'll be back shortly to give you the list of selected season one bookers!

[Anybody Thrilla]

16. Jeritron
7. Flash Funk
4. Big Vito 22
3. XL
6. DeathtotheSwiss

Hey, not a bad little crop. I'd appreciate confirmation from you all to make sure you want your booker spot for season one of Armchair Warfare!!!

[CSL]

TBF, as an experienced c-fedder I think this fantasy booking will be much harder than stringing a few sentances together with some pictures for a c-fed promo.

Probably. I just preferred to describe stuff with words over pictures.

[Anybody Thrilla]

That leaves the judges as:

Destor
VSG
thedamndest
jerichoholicninja
screech
Lock Jaw
CSL
Bizarro King
Dr.Perfect
James Steele

Cool how that worked out to 10. :y:

Again, confirmation from you guys would be cool.

[BizarroKing]

Oh well, there's always season 2.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Do you still want to judge, BizarroKing? That could be fun too.

Also, I'll post the list of reserve bookers in a moment after I random everything up again.

[BizarroKing]

Do you still want to judge, BizarroKing? That could be fun too.

Also, I'll post the list of reserve bookers in a moment after I random everything up again.

Of course I do lol

[thedamndest]

Confirm.

[Anybody Thrilla]

You'll be the best judge in all of Judgeville, I'm sure of it.

[Destor]

so woild the draft happen in here, a seperate thread or via pm?

[The Show Off]

I'll be in on that.

[Anybody Thrilla]

The cast actually sounds pretty good all around.

[Anybody Thrilla]

so woild the draft happen in here, a seperate thread or via pm?

I would like all five of the bookers to send me a 'Draft Priority' list of something like 50 wrestlers (along with the name of your company). I know that sounds like a lot, but I don't want to have to track people down and ask who they want if a lot of their guys are gone. The priority list can even be longer than that, if they so choose.

I'll use the random generator to select draft order, and I'll go through and set the rosters from there.

[thedamndest]

Live draft via thread would be a lot less work for you. No time limit.

[Anybody Thrilla]

I'll be in on that.

The reserve list?

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Confirm.

One last question - did we decide to go with tag teams or not? Only established ones (Hart Dynasty, etc.) - shit like "ShoMiz" wouldn't count.

Just need to know for the purposes of my draft board (if we go that route).

Also, are we going with 20 or 25? And when should this be in by?</font>

[Anybody Thrilla]

Live draft via thread would be a lot less work for you. No time limit.

Yeah, but I wanted to keep some level of anonimity as to who's running what company so that people get votes based on their work and not their names. I'm not so much worried about that with the esteemed panel of judges, but for the public poll bonus.

[thedamndest]

Oh I see. Good call.

[Destor]

once the rosters are finalized you should post the companies and their rosters so we have something to look forward to.

[Anybody Thrilla]

<font color=goldenrod>Confirm.

One last question - did we decide to go with tag teams or not? Only established ones (Hart Dynasty, etc.) - shit like "ShoMiz" wouldn't count.

Just need to know for the purposes of my draft board (if we go that route).

Also, are we going with 20 or 25? And when should this be in by?</font>

How about this....you're allowed to draft tag teams together (and only if they're REAL tag teams, not Chris Jericho and Kurt Angle), but both members will count towards your overall roster space....which I'm setting at 20.

The earlier I can get these lists, the better...is Tuesday night too early of a deadline?

[Anybody Thrilla]

once the rosters are finalized you should post the companies and their rosters so we have something to look forward to.

Definitely.

[screech]

Nice. Just so I'm clear: I "rank" the shows and PM you results? Or do I post my choices somewhere?

I've been in and out today so I may have missed some stuff I needed to know.

[Anybody Thrilla]

I'll start working on the official rules page soon.

[Evil Vito]

How about this....you're allowed to draft tag teams together (and only if they're REAL tag teams, not Chris Jericho and Kurt Angle), but both members will count towards your overall roster space....which I'm setting at 20.

The earlier I can get these lists, the better...is Tuesday night too early of a deadline?

<font color=goldenrod>Sounds good.</font> :y:

[Anybody Thrilla]

Nice. Just so I'm clear: I "rank" the shows and PM you results? Or do I post my choices somewhere?

I've been in and out today so I may have missed some stuff I needed to know.

I'd like the judges to show their rankings and maybe even discuss why they voted as such in the threads where I'll post the TV shows. I'll probably post a poll with those as well for the Public Poll bonus where I'll ask all posters to just vote on their favorite show from the week.

[screech]

Oh okay. Sounds good to me :y:

[Anybody Thrilla]

I'll be creating a social group for both the season one judges and another for the season one bookers shortly. That way, we can iron out any kinks there. I'd also like the judges to post their official rankings in there as well. I mean, you should post them in the discussion threads too, but it'll be easier for me to keep track of them from the social group.

[VSG]

Confirmed.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Here's the list of reserves before I randomize them and order them:

1. Schlomey
2. #1-wwf-fan
3. RiX1024
4. Majunior
5. DAMN iNATOR
6. Paul Heyman
7. Kapoutman
8. Snowden
9. Noid
10. The Show Off

[VSG]

What are reserves?

[Anybody Thrilla]

And here's the actual order of reserves:

6. Paul Heyman
10. The Show Off
1. Schlomey
4. Majunior
9. Noid
2. #1-wwf-fan
5. DAMN iNATOR
7. Kapoutman
8. Snowden
3. RiX1024

[Anybody Thrilla]

What are reserves?

If for any reason a booker decides not to continue or is inactive, the next available reserve will take over his company with the same roster and whatnot. There's not a big (or even a decent) chance that we'll have to call on the reserves, but at least we'll have them just in case.

[BizarroKing]

So I'm staying as a judge for the season, so when does it actually start?

[The Pope]

If somebody sucks, can they get fired?

[Anybody Thrilla]

I'm looking to do the draft next week. I'll invite you to the social group now that you have confirmed, and I'll keep you guys posted as to deadlines and such there so you'll have an idea of when to vote.

[Anybody Thrilla]

If somebody sucks, can they get fired?

Maybe in later seasons if there are a lot more bookers, but there will be no danger of termination for season one.

[Anybody Thrilla]

The complete list of eligible workers for season one has now been posted in a separate thread so that the bookers have something to work on their draft priority lists with. If someone is missing that you feel should be there, I'm sorry, but that's the official list. Deal with it. There's a lot of talent there.

[The Pope]

All sounds good. :y:

[Anybody Thrilla]

I just edited this in the eligible workers thread, but I'll post it here too just to clairfy how tag team drafting will work:

EDIT: You are allowed to draft tag teams at the same time, as long as they are REGULAR tag teams. The Hart Dynasty, The Usos, Team 3D, etc. will be acceptable. Super teams (Jerishow, ShowMiz, Kurt Angle & John Cena) will not be acceptable. If you do choose to draft a tag team though, both members will count towards your roster total (20). In the event that someone else has drafted one member of your projected tag team, please indicate if you would like to still draft either member of the team as a solo act.

EXAMPLE:

1. Hart Dynasty (Keep Kidd, Skip DH)
2. Doink the Clown

If I see that on your priority list and DH Smith has already been drafted by another company, you would receive Tyson Kidd only. If Tyson Kidd had already been drafted, you would receive Doink the Clown. Got it?

[The Pope]

What if one of the bookers is "never" online or does anything but hurt us, can one of the reserves take over?

[Anybody Thrilla]

Yes. But you're a judge, so you're set there. SORRY.

Also, the social groups have been created and the right people have been invited. I didn't feel like waiting for confirmation.

Thanks guys.

[Juan]

Is this basically like EWR, but without actually downloading the game?

[The Pope]

Seems like it, but more interactive.

[Swiss Ultimate]

16. Jeritron
7. Flash Funk
4. Big Vito 22
3. XL
6. DeathtotheSwiss

Hey, not a bad little crop. I'd appreciate confirmation from you all to make sure you want your booker spot for season one of Armchair Warfare!!!

Definitely!!!

[Tanner10209810]

Man that sounds awesome. I've been following the site for about 6 months and this sounds just awesome.

[Tanner10209810]

Also I would love to join in any way.Please send me a mesage about when the draft is and if i can be apart in it

[Loose Cannon]

I have not read all six pages, but add me as a judge if you have any more room. My taste is a lot different then like 85% of the posters here.

[Loose Cannon]

ah you fucker, you picked them already

[XL]

I'm guessing we can't pick company names that allude to who owns them?

For example, I couldn't have Excellence Championship Wrestling as XL = Excel.

[Swiss Ultimate]

I'm guessing we can't pick company names that allude to who owns them?

For example, I couldn't have Excellence Championship Wrestling as XL = Excel.

Why couldn't we?

[XL]

Cos nobody is supposed to know who wrote each show.

[CSL]

I'm pretty sure you could have gotten away with Excellence Championship Wrestling had you not just posted it.

[Destor]

yup

[XL]

I may have. And given that I'm not all that well known in the wrestling forum I doubt there's much chance of me getting points based on my name alone.

[Juan]

Don't sell yourself short, xtra large.

[VSG]

You were too paranoid. That was also ECW back there, and now you blew it.

[Schlomey]

here is my post to confirm my number 1 draft position! Whoot.

[XL]

You were too paranoid. That was also ECW back there, and now you blew it.
Yeah I kinda saw the ECW thing myself. Oh well, shot my load too soon I guess. Better to do it now than have Paul London beat Cena & HHH in a handicap match for the World Title on the first show I guess.

[James Steele]

Also, I promise that my "appreciation" of Triple H will not interfere with my unbiased judgments on y'alls booking. Have fun!

BOOK TRIPLE H LIKE A CHAMP AND YOU WILL BE THE ARMCHAIR BOOKING CHAMP!!!!!

[screech]

ah you fucker, you picked them already

I would have enjoyed your judging-ship.

[Flash Funk]

I am in! Lets get this thing going... Is there a certain outline we have to follow for the writing of the weekly tv show?

[Paul Heyman]

Someone drop out pleas? :P

[The Show Off]

Since I'm #2 on the reserve list does that make me a lock for season 2?

[Destor]

seems logical...

[Anybody Thrilla]

Yeah, I guess the first reserves can be next seasons bookers if they still want to do it by then.

[Anybody Thrilla]

But then again...there may be some judges who want to book too, so I dunno.

[VSG]

But then again...there may be some judges who want to book too, so I dunno.

You guess right, if I got time for season 2 I would love to be booking as well.