Randy Orton [Archive]

Afterlife

07-18-2010, 01:12 PM

Let me preface this with...well...this:

I enjoy the current "state" of Randy Orton. The sociopath, taking out anyone he likes, not always for a discernible reason. This is the first version of Orton I have enjoyed since RNN.

That said...

Every time I see him wrestle now, I wonder "how long until he breaks?" I tense up watching him bump at all because I fear his next hit may be his next broken shoulder/collar bone. Watching him pull every strike against the mat, now, when he's "coiled to strike" with the RKO nearly makes me cringe due to how obvious it is.

Bottom line: I, personally, can't see him as a legitimate threat these days due to how fragile he appears.

Am I 100% alone on this?

BizarroKing

07-18-2010, 01:18 PM

Randy rapes the competition!

Afterlife

07-18-2010, 01:20 PM

And dislocates his shoulder in the process.

Xero

07-18-2010, 01:26 PM

Randy rapes the competition!

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g122/sandman3g/ortonswagger.jpg

I beg to differ.

Snowden

07-18-2010, 01:29 PM

Didn't he dislocate his shoulder against Edge in their match a couple of months ago "coiling" for the RKO? Ever since then, it seems like he's pounding the mat a lot lighter, and generally taking it easier on the bumps.

Xero

07-18-2010, 01:30 PM

He's definitely pounding the mat softer. I haven't noticed much difference in his style otherwise, though.

The Pope

07-18-2010, 01:31 PM

Didn't he dislocate his shoulder against Edge in their match a couple of months ago "coiling" for the RKO? Ever since then, it seems like he's pounding the mat a lot lighter, and generally taking it easier on the bumps.

Yeah, he's been hitting the mat lighter since the injury. Compassion for the mat.

Afterlife

07-18-2010, 01:32 PM

Didn't he dislocate his shoulder against Edge in their match a couple of months ago "coiling" for the RKO? Ever since then, it seems like he's pounding the mat a lot lighter, and generally taking it easier on the bumps.

Yes, that's what I said.

He's definitely pounding the mat softer. I haven't noticed much difference in his style otherwise, though.

I've barely seen him do ANYthing since then. It seems as if he's a little afraid to do much. I expect him to take a "big bump" early in the MitB match and then disappear for much of the action.

Mooияakeя™

07-18-2010, 01:44 PM

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i178/THE-SHARP-EDGE/Wrestling%20Gifs/RKOs/67m5w7.gif

http://www.gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs/250498_o.gif

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i178/THE-SHARP-EDGE/Wrestling%20Gifs/RKOs/RKOf-1.gif

The adaptations of the RKO are pretty decent with him. These days you don't see many dapper changes to finishers. FFS, The Walls of Jericho is a Boston Crab these days :(

Troelar

07-18-2010, 01:44 PM

I haven't seen much difference. Only really noticed his new found love of the mat as he caresses it.
Maybe it's just that you know why he's pulling his punches to the mat, and that sort of makes all the other aspects of his persona come off a bit flawed.

Xero

07-18-2010, 01:45 PM

BizarroKing

07-18-2010, 01:46 PM

Afterlife

07-18-2010, 01:51 PM

I haven't seen much difference. Only really noticed his new found love of the mat as he caresses it.
Maybe it's just that you know why he's pulling his punches to the mat, and that sort of makes all the other aspects of his persona come off a bit flawed.

This is very much the case. That's why I'm asking if nobody else shares my perspective. If I'm crazy, that's fine. It's just been bugging me for a while.

Afterlife

07-18-2010, 01:53 PM

As for that video, he barely moved his right shoulder at all to perform that "amazing" :roll: maneuver, and even his celebratory downward fist thrusts look notably ginger.

ministrychick77

07-18-2010, 01:54 PM

well with his shoulders being double jointed/hypermobile he has to be careful. injuries to places like that take more work to come back from.

i learned this when my knee got fucked up. still messes with me.

The Pope

07-18-2010, 01:56 PM

well with his shoulders being double jointed/hypermobile he has to be careful. injuries to places like that take more work to come back from.

i learned this when my knee got fucked up. still messes with me.

What does it do to you?

ministrychick77

07-18-2010, 02:00 PM

makes it easier to get injured. sometimes also limits what you can/can't do. maybe orton's dealing with this now..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypermobile
i'm hypermobile in my fingers and knees.

The Pope

07-18-2010, 02:01 PM

My knees are horrible too, stupid squatting!! I tried squatting 600 lbs and my knees gave up.

SaskatchewanChamp

07-18-2010, 02:08 PM

Wrestlers of the 1980's-1990's = Solid Workers

Wrestlers Of Today = Pussies.

The Pope

07-18-2010, 02:12 PM

Wrestlers of the 1980's-1990's = Solid Workers

Wrestlers Of Today = Pussies.

Bob Orton Jr. was one of the toughest/best workers out there.

CSL

07-18-2010, 02:17 PM

Wrestlers of the 1980's-1990's = Solid Workers

Wrestlers Of Today = Pussies.

What are you on about?

The Pope

07-18-2010, 02:21 PM

Wrestlers of the 1980's-1990's = Solid Workers

Wrestlers Of Today = Pussies.

I kind of agree, cause I watched the Maryse match. And there was a pussy in that match. :lol:

VSG

07-18-2010, 02:21 PM

Wrestlers of the 1980's-1990's = Solid Workers

Wrestlers Of Today = Pussies.

Did you even see any of the matches of yesteryear? People had body slams as finishers. That simply doesn't work these days, and so having less technical stuff aired on tv does not make anyone a pussy.

SaskatchewanChamp

07-18-2010, 02:24 PM

What are you on about?

I'm just saying that the "new age" of wrestlers, mostly in the WWE are spoiled. I refer mostly back to when Orton slapped the crap out of the mat, and dislocated his shoulder, or whatever he did to himself. In some sports, football and hockey mostly, when a guy dislocates his shoulder or another part of the body, they pop that bitch back in place and keep playing for the passion of the game.

Xero

07-18-2010, 02:25 PM

I'm just saying that the "new age" of wrestlers, mostly in the WWE are spoiled. I refer mostly back to when Orton slapped the crap out of the mat, and dislocated his shoulder, or whatever he did to himself. In some sports, football and hockey mostly, when a guy dislocates his shoulder or another part of the body, they pop that bitch back in place and keep playing for the passion of the game.

You do realize that Orton technically finished the match where he dislocated his arm, right? Even took a spear?

jskinnyg

07-18-2010, 02:27 PM

The Pope

07-18-2010, 02:30 PM

You do realize that Orton technically finished the match where he dislocated his arm, right? Even took a spear?

Yeah, He is a tough S.O.B

Afterlife

07-18-2010, 02:33 PM

Wrestlers of the 1980's-1990's = Solid Workers

Wrestlers Of Today = Pussies.

Oh, hogwash. I'm not calling Orton a pussy at all. I'm only saying, I think he knows he's more fragile than he wants to let on. In fact, that means he's displaying a large amount of toughness, by going out and trying to work. He took a VERY long time getting over his first shoulder injury, and then had that nasty collar break. Those injuries lend themselves to recurrences, and it takes a brave guy to risk them; I just think it's shining thru that he KNOWS it's a risk.

Mooияakeя™

07-18-2010, 02:36 PM

Best RKO was still on RVD.

The Pope

07-18-2010, 02:43 PM

The Pope

07-18-2010, 02:47 PM

The Pope

07-18-2010, 02:49 PM

Xero

07-18-2010, 02:55 PM

Mooияakeя™

07-18-2010, 02:59 PM

I think my gifs were too shit, so I found the vid...

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Mooияakeя™

07-18-2010, 03:00 PM

Didn't know they did this again.

Still don't know how the fuck Van Dam does it.

I seriously think it's just a case of him "sitting up" n mid air, to lift his neck. I could be wrong, but after a while looking at it, that's what I get. Either that or he's pushing up with his hands.

The Pope

07-18-2010, 03:01 PM

Wow, i think he does it by kind of doing the what would be a handspring but with only his shoulder blades.

Xero

07-18-2010, 03:01 PM

Watching it a few more times, he has basically no push from his arms or hands. All I can think is that it's like a vertical kip-up, because his legs are definitely an integral part of it.

The Pope

07-18-2010, 03:02 PM

I think my gifs were too shit, so I found the vid...

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that just looks like an F-U.

CSL

07-18-2010, 03:03 PM

He just uses the momentum as a spring I think. He's ridiculously flexible/athletic etc.

Favre4Ever

07-18-2010, 03:16 PM

yeah I think it's all leg power

jskinnyg

07-18-2010, 04:09 PM

Wrestlers of the 1980's-1990's = Solid Workers

Wrestlers Of Today = Pussies.

Sorry, but that's just dumb... In the 80's and for the first part of the 90's, an Oklahoma Slam or an elbow drop was considered high risk... We have gotten used to some pretty insane moves nowadays... These guys today are frigin' acrobats & take bumps better than most professional stuntmen...

jskinnyg

07-18-2010, 04:16 PM

jskinnyg

07-18-2010, 04:17 PM

Ultra Mantis

07-18-2010, 05:33 PM

Kane Knight

07-18-2010, 05:46 PM

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i178/THE-SHARP-EDGE/Wrestling%20Gifs/RKOs/67m5w7.gif
I personally thought that looked like ass. It didn't look like it should have hurt or even really worked.

I dig Orton and I like the "RKO from anywhere" shit, but...LAME.

legendkillerRKO

07-18-2010, 06:50 PM

when Orton broke his collar bone against HHH he finished the match. He even took a sledgehammer shot while it looked like his bone was gunna pop out of his skin. I have seen guys in the NFL and MLB carried out on stretchers from broken collar bones.

Kane Knight

07-18-2010, 08:35 PM

when Orton broke his collar bone against HHH he finished the match. He even took a sledgehammer shot while it looked like his bone was gunna pop out of his skin. I have seen guys in the NFL and MLB carried out on stretchers from stubbed toes.

The Pope

07-18-2010, 08:46 PM

when Orton broke his collar bone against HHH he finished the match. He even took a sledgehammer shot while it looked like his bone was gunna pop out of his skin. I have seen guys in the NFL and MLB carried out on stretchers from broken collar bones.

Ok :y:

Juan

07-18-2010, 08:50 PM

Didn't he dislocate his shoulder against Edge in their match a couple of months ago "coiling" for the RKO? Ever since then, it seems like he's pounding the mat a lot lighter, and generally taking it easier on the bumps.

Technically, he re-aggravated an injury he had suffered a few days earlier at a house show.

Ol Dirty Dastard

07-18-2010, 08:59 PM

Yeah and apparently he hurt it before playing basketball.

lol at internet posters questioning a wrestler's toughness.

The Pope

07-18-2010, 09:36 PM

He's gone through thumbtacks

Wishbone

07-18-2010, 09:58 PM

Orton does seem more cautious in the ring these days but can you really blame him?

The Pope

07-18-2010, 10:06 PM

Orton does seem more cautious in the ring these days but can you really blame him?

NO