Offical Heat/Backlash thread 4/18/04

[Savio]

The Final Encounter
Triple Threat Match
World Heavyweight Title
Triple H vs. Shawn Michaels vs. Chris Benoit

Street Fight
Intercontinental Title
Mick Foley vs. Randy Orton

Handicap Match
Chris Jericho vs. Christian & Trish Stratus

Edge vs. Kane

Womens Championship
Lita vs. Victoria

Shelton Benjamin vs. Ric Flair

Tajiri vs. Jonathan Coachman

[Wondermouse]

La Resistance vs. Hurricane and Rosey

PRE-PPV
Val Venis vs. Matt Hardy

[AareDub]

Anybody gonna do pbp?

[blueskies]

my directv ppv isn't working u.u; no wwe for me tonight.. so i hope there's going to be pbp

[HHHsucks929]

Here he is, the man who called Mick Foley out-of-shape. The rubber chest boy, Ric Flair. WOOOOOO!!!!

[OssMan]

Someone sticky this bitch.

[HHHsucks929]

Anybody else have the words "SAP Difficulties" on their screen?

[OssMan]

What's happening in the match dammit

[AareDub]

for those that still want pbp www.tpww.net/ppv

[Rock Bottom]

It's a sad day when a RAW thread tomorrow night will have way more views than a PPV thread with names like Benoit/Michaels/HHH...

[KingofOldSchool]

LOL The Coach defeated Tajiri.

Hahahahha.

[AareDub]

The really sad thing is that the WWE will probably credit the low buyrate to Benoit being champ.

[Vega]

LOL The Coach defeated Tajiri.

Hahahahha.

did he? ssssssssss @ tipsters

[OssMan]

OOH I told you Coach would beat Tajiri by interference.

[AareDub]

Yea, I thought it was pretty obvious that Coach was gonna win.

tipster points++

[KingofOldSchool]

The really sad thing is that the WWE will probably credit the low buyrate to Benoit being champ.

Good.

[Savio]

only 15 replies!?!? King was funny during Val vs matt

[Savio]

What match is on now?

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

Chris Jericho beat Trish and Christian

[Funky Fly]

Man, Vince must hate Japanese people. They're all jobbers in the WWE. :'(

[Rock Bottom]

He doesn't seem to hate Jim Ross.

[Rock Bottom]

Oh, he's squinting all the time, my bad. :rant:

[ItsTimeForAChange]

I was really impressed and surprised by Ortons performance in his match with Mick. I have more respect for him.

[Mikey]

Tonight Orton and Foley became wrestling gods

[AareDub]

Based on the pbp the Orton/Foley match sounded damn good.

[Heyman]

Oh, he's squinting all the time, my bad. :rant:

LOL

[Cactus Sid]

All I can say is wow

I was really worried throughout that whole match that Foley was gonna taken a really stupid bump, and yes, ok, there was A LOT of garbage wrestling, but the tension and psychology of that match was amazing, things went in the right place, and Orton comes out of it ready for the Main Event, Foley made him look like a true Main Event player tonight, and I tell ya something, Orton in the Thumbtacks? You could see it coming in the match, but I never thought he'd do someting like that, props to him.

Also, can I just say this about Ric Flair..... Foley can't go 60 minutes with Guerrero, Angle or Benoit??? He was blown up after 6 minutes with Shelton Benjamin, and Foley definetly looked more in-shape in his match than I've seen him in years, so I hope that gives a big fu</>ck you to Flair.

[Rock Bottom]

:eek: at that match... I was just reading it. That's sick. I had no idea that Orton would take a tack-bump like that (he wrestles bare-backed). Wow, that's awesome. :y:

[Heyman]

Tonight Orton and Foley became wrestling gods

Foley became a wrestling god a LONG time ago you nimrod.

But yes - Orton did further establish himself tonight. Great JOB by Foley.

[AareDub]

credit 4w-wrestling.com for this, but for those who aren't watching check out orton's back.
http://www.4w-wrestling.com/ppv/070.jpg

[Cactus Sid]

Got a pic of Mick's arm after the barbed wire bed bump?

[Heyman]

All I can say is wow

I was really worried throughout that whole match that Foley was gonna taken a really stupid bump, and yes, ok, there was A LOT of garbage wrestling, but the tension and psychology of that match was amazing, things went in the right place, and Orton comes out of it ready for the Main Event, Foley made him look like a true Main Event player tonight, and I tell ya something, Orton in the Thumbtacks? You could see it coming in the match, but I never thought he'd do someting like that, props to him.

Also, can I just say this about Ric Flair..... Foley can't go 60 minutes with Guerrero, Angle or Benoit??? He was blown up after 6 minutes with Shelton Benjamin, and Foley definetly looked more in-shape in his match than I've seen him in years, so I hope that gives a big fu</>ck you to Flair.

Flair is over 50 years old you ignorant dipsh</>it. I'd like to see you wrestle for 6 minutes or more at that age.

[Cactus Sid]

I'm just suggesting that Flair should be less ignorant himself

[ItsTimeForAChange]

Tonight Orton and Foley became wrestling gods

at that match... I was just reading it. That's sick. I had no idea that Orton would take a tack-bump like that (he wrestles bare-backed). Wow, that's awesome.

All I can say is wow

I was really worried throughout that whole match that Foley was gonna taken a really stupid bump, and yes, ok, there was A LOT of garbage wrestling, but the tension and psychology of that match was amazing, things went in the right place, and Orton comes out of it ready for the Main Event, Foley made him look like a true Main Event player tonight, and I tell ya something, Orton in the Thumbtacks? You could see it coming in the match, but I never thought he'd do someting like that, props to him.

Agreed :D

Definte props to Orton for the tacks bump and the big bump off the entrance.

[AareDub]

Got a pic of Mick's arm after the barbed wire bed bump?
http://www.4w-wrestling.com/ppv/069.jpg

that's the best one they have of it. Again, credit 4w-wrestling.com

[Rock Bottom]

Holy shit, this is like the third time I have had this Deja Vu. Someone arguing about Flair being 50 years old, with a "Feuds you would like to see" thread right under this one. On a night with Orton vs. Foley. Wow... I am serious.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Royal Rumble: The Royal Rumble Match
No Way Out: Brock/Eddie
Wrestlemania: Eddie/Angle and Benoit/HHH/HBK

And now Backlash gives us Foley/Orton and possibly the triple threat match

4 PPVs in a row with MOTYC =</font> :y:

[Cactus Sid]

The should have played up the box in the corner

[Loose Cannon]

OMG, I just got back from a school project thing and I'm hearing about the Orton match and seeing these awesome pics. Someone get me a fk'n towel.

[AareDub]

OMG, I just got back from a school project thing and I'm hearing about the Orton match and seeing these awesome pics. Someone get me a fk'n towel.

In case you didn't hear about the finish, Orton landed two RKO's. One by reversing a socko attempt and the other landed on the barbed wire or something. Figured you'd need a towel after those.

[Cactus Sid]

They should've put this match on before Foley/Orton, it has no heat at all

[Loose Cannon]

RANDY ORTON "HARDCORE LEGEND" Believe It!!!!!

[Loose Cannon]

In case you didn't hear about the finish, Orton landed two RKO's. One by reversing a socko attempt and the other landed on the barbed wire or something. Figured you'd need a towel after those.

Holy Shit, are you kidding. Definately buying the DVD when it comes out.

[Rock Bottom]

ROFL @ LC. You are like the die-hardest Orton mark ever.

[Mikey]

Foley became a wrestling god a LONG time ago you nimrod.

But yes - Orton did further establish himself tonight. Great JOB by Foley.


I meant more of one you dumbass. I meant that because he did the job to Orton :roll:

[AareDub]

Yea, Foley is the man for putting over Orton.

[Loose Cannon]

ROFL @ LC. You are like the die-hardest Orton mark ever.
:D

[Rock Bottom]

Congratulations Kane, you are now Rhyno. What the fuc</>k is that.

[AareDub]

Wow, I'm not even remotely interested in this main event.

[Loose Cannon]

what happened RB?

[Hired Hitman]

ORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRTON :cool:

[JeremyTB29]

omg Shawn using the sharp shooter in Edmonton with Earl as the ref lol.Fans erupted with boos.You screwed Bret chants.

[Mikey]

LOL @ Shawn Michaels heat and You screwed Bret chants

[Rock Bottom]

what happened RB?

Edge>Kane in a highly gay match. I swear Kane is like the biggest pussy now.

[OssMan]

Jesus this is gonna be a long match.

[Loose Cannon]

You think HBK'S turning?

[JeremyTB29]

lmao Shawn is getting pissed off at the crowd.

[Rock Bottom]

Yeah, they all hate Shawn. And I am pretty sure Michaels is gonna get some "You tapped out" chants tomorrow night. Dunno if the WWE will act on it, but Michaels could probably get the heat for a turn.

[CBright7831]

I've been reading the results and this PPV sounds kind of eeeehhh.

How has it been?

[Rock Bottom]

OMG BRET HART BRET HART BRET HART BRET HART BRET HART

[Rock Bottom]

(Is not at Backlash)

[Loose Cannon]

bullshit

[Loose Cannon]

lol

[Rock Bottom]

Yeah I figured it's what Rob would do if he were on.

[Loose Cannon]

Hey do you guys have pics of Orton doing the RKO to Foley?

[RGWhat316]

Well, Im not able to watch the ppv tonight, but after reading results it seems like Orton/Foley is the show stealer thus far. And after watching heat, Coach has his own shirt now? wtf?

[Mikey]

Coach has his own shirt now? wtf?


Its about time he got one :D

[CBright7831]

The entrances are probably going to be longer than the actual match.

[Cactus Sid]

BENOIT SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[JeremyTB29]

omg Shawn Taps out to the sharpshooter!!!! Benoit retains!

[Mikey]

Pretty good match but not as good as WM 20 IMO

[CBright7831]

It's already over?

[Rock Bottom]

HAHA, Michaels you little bitch, you should have done that at Survivor Series.

[Cactus Sid]

Pretty good match but not as good as WM 20 IMO

Agreed, it didn't have that spark that Mania had.

[Cactus Sid]

It got about half an hour

[CBright7831]

It got about half an hour
Jesus.

I was watching Kill Bill. :-\

[Funky Fly]

Damn, I called the finish perfectly. HBK jobbed to the Sharpshooter.

[Loose Cannon]

lol at Michaels tapping to the shooter.

[Rock Bottom]

Yeah, I bet that is Vince/Shawn's subtle way of telling Bret they're sorry.

[Dazz]

Ric Flair :(.

Good match between Foley and Orton, seemed like it really would have hurt them. Orton's nuts are gunna be sore in the morning. :$.

Good to see Jericho win at a PPV

LOFL at Eugine.

Shawn should have just ignored the fans, but its good that he tapped to the Sharpshooter, I thought he would tap, but not to the Sharpshooter.

[Cactus Sid]

As I will be tomorrow :cool: (about watching kill bill)

Overall the show was good, it had 1 really good match and 1 MOTY candidate, 2 out of 7 ain't bad, when you consider the other 5 weren't terrible. Flair/Benjamin was your standard short Flair match, Victoria/Lita was good for a Lita match, but she was really nervy, Coach/Tajiri wasn't as terrible as it could be, and starts a program for Garrison Cade/Tajiri which could be a good match given time, Jericho vs Xian/Trish was fairly good, good stuff between Xian and Jericho, perhaps not as good as there WM match, but not bad nevertheless, La Resistance/Rosey and Hurricane was a filler, good time for a bog break or grab a snack. Only REAL disappointment was Kane/Edge, but that was killed by the crowd.

The WWE did really well in getting over both Benoit and Orton tonight, they really did shine through.

[Gerard]

Has foley ever actually won a big match in wwf\wwe wrestling as cactus jack? Seems everytime he unveils that character leading into a ppv match he loses.

[#1-norm-fan]

The first half of the PPV was better than the second half. Main event was alright but HBK tapping sucked. Why the F are they buring him? The man still has more talent than half the god damn roster combined!

HBK should have won the title at WM and then lost it to Benoit tonight.

[Boondock Saint]

How are they burying HBK?

[#1-norm-fan]

By just putting him in two straight triple threat matches as a filler for the HHH-Benoit feud. Also, I just hate it when main event faces tap out.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I don't know why, but I hated the ending to the Triple Threat. Good tribute to Bret and everything, but I was hoping for Michaels to Sweet Chin Music Benoit out of nowhere and run off with the title to the biggest heat ever. :-\

Good PPV. I'm hyped about Orton after that. MOTYC, indeed (but what do you expect from Orton). I'm going to piss myself if he's ever in a Ladder Match. :drool:

[Funky Fly]

By just putting him in two straight triple threat matches as a filler for the HHH-Benoit feud. Also, I just hate it when main event faces tap out.
If anything, this triple threat ended HHH/Benoit and HHH/HBK. It looks like the beginning of HBK/Benoit to me.

[Innovator]

Theyre not burying HBK, theyre pushing Benoit, BIG difference

[Corkscrewed]

Wow, three pages. I guess just like me, no one remembered this PPV, LOL.

Foley vs Orton was definitely the best match of the night, but a bit w00t to Benoit making Michaels tap out. He's like unbeatable now. Seriously... besides Michaels, he has no one to feud with.

I suggest Jericho. When his feud with Christian wraps up, Beniot should be done w/ HBK...

[TazroK]

Only good moment was seeing all the tacks in Orton's back.

[PureHatred]

Foley/Orton match of the year candidate. I'm officially jumping on the Randy Orton bandwagon. This match really impressed me.

The Triple threat was great IMO. Benoit made HHH tap, then HBK, and it really solidified him as a champ. I'm hoping he moves on to a face/face feud with Y2J.

[SammyG]

So, does anyone else think its ironic that Shawn tapped out to the Sharpshooter, after thinking about the survivor series screwjob? do u think this could be a way of shawn sayin that enuff of all the hate hes been gettin in canada, and this is a way to shut up the fans?

[6to1]

Wow, three pages. I guess just like me, no one remembered this PPV, LOL.

Foley vs Orton was definitely the best match of the night, but a bit w00t to Benoit making Michaels tap out. He's like unbeatable now. Seriously... besides Michaels, he has no one to feud with.

I suggest Jericho. When his feud with Christian wraps up, Beniot should be done w/ HBK...
yea too bad they moved booker, y2j is all that is left unless big show goes to raw

[RGWhat316]

After reading through the results, especially on a ppv, is there such thing as a finishing maneuver anymore? Some of the victories were by a clothesline, enzeguri, and rollups. Only the big matches had an actual finishing maneuver used. I was just wondering why we've seen quite a bit of that lately.

And as Gerard mentioned, I don't think the Cactus Jack character has really helped Foley right before a big match. In Foley's last year of 2000, he became Cactus Jack and lost to HHH twice in a Street Fight and Hell in a Cell.

[SammyG]

IF U WANNA SEE ORTON VS CENA AT WMXX GIMME A HELL YEEAAHHH!!! lame attempt at trying to impersonate a wife beater, but oh well :p

[SammyG]

i mean, Wrestlemania 21

[Rock Bottom]

So, does anyone else think its ironic that Shawn tapped out to the Sharpshooter, after thinking about the survivor series screwjob? do u think this could be a way of shawn sayin that enuff of all the hate hes been gettin in canada, and this is a way to shut up the fans?

I doubt, short of stopping a meteor that was going to impact directly on Canada, that Michaels will ever get anything but heel heat in Edmonton. However I think this may have been Vince/Shawn's subtle apology to Bret Hart.

[Rock Bottom]

Yeah, that is totally markish of me, but I don't care. They probably just did it for the pop.

[The Forgotten One]

I'm just really pissed the Kane lost to *sigh* Edge. :'(

Thats some total ****ing bullshit!!!!



He shouldn't be allowed to wear that cast. Blatant injury fake just to use a cast as a weapon. :shifty:

[Dave Youell]

Overall the PPV performed over my expectations. Backlash normally sucks, but they did a really good job with this one. I'm also jumping on the Randy Orton band wagon, Jesus that match went alot further than i thought it would. Props to both men.

And christ aint Foley lost alot and i mean ALOT of weight

[Mr. Nerfect]

Something I just noticed during the replay. Victoria let a little boy kiss her on the cheek.

1. Victoria's a class act. :y:

2. What a lucky boy?!? :drool:

3. If he's her son, sorry for the mix-up. :shifty:

[Jonster]

<font color="#99CCFF">Haven't read the thread (it's too damned long and I've just got up), but Orton really did a lot of things that I wasn't expecting him too.
Plus now he looks invincible :|

Quote of the night from my friend: "Chris Benoit can't lose, it's Chris Benoit Day!"</font>

[Savio]

ooooo ortons' back :eek:

[Jonster]

<font color="#99CCFF">Did he go somewhere?</font>

[Azriel]

From what I heard about Foley from last night, JR said he weighed in at 272 and he hasn't been like that since 89! That was an amazing "street fight". Do you guys think it put the HHH/Foley Street Fight from 99 to shame?

[Innovator]

Last time Cactus Jack won at a WWE PPV I think was Wrestlemania XIV against the Outlaws in the Dumpster Match

[SuperSlim]

well overall the PPV didn't sound to impressive but Orton sounded really impressive... intersting to see what is goin to happen tonight

[Disturbed316]

ROFL at the crowd during the main event

[Azriel]

They were such idiots last night. It was 7 years ago, get over it.

[Savio]

<font color="#99CCFF">Did he go somewhere?</font>
No His back. :roll:

[Savio]

http://www.4w-wrestling.com/ppv/065.jpg

[Funky Fly]

They were such idiots last night. It was 7 years ago, get over it.
NEVER! :mad:

[Cactus Sid]

I actually thought that looked kinda cosy, until I realised it was real Barbed Wire

[Savio]

So if you could give backlash a 1-10 rating what would it be?

[Mr. Nerfect]

8

[#1-norm-fan]

I'll go 7

[Savio]

It seems like the only 2 good matches were Ortons and HBK's am I wrong?

[blake639raw]

It seems like the only 2 good matches were Ortons and HBK's am I wrong? Y2J/Christian was good. Edge/Kane was terrible, Victoria/Lita wasn't better than anything seen on RAW every week. Benjamin/Flair was okay, but it could have been a lot better than it was. Overall, I would give the PPV a 7. The Orton/Foley match made the PPV imo.

[Savio]

I don't like Flair any more he's just a grumpy old man "fans shouldn't say Heel, foleys out of shape"

[Savio]

I heard flair jobbed in 3 minutes, right?

[blake639raw]

I heard flair jobbed in 3 minutes, right? It wasn't very long. It was probably longer than 3 minutes though. More like 5-8 minutes.