View Full Version : DISCUSSION - The Rock as "sheriff" of both RAW and SMACKDOWN.
Heyman
04-18-2004, 08:44 PM
DISCUSSION - The Rock as "sheriff" of both RAW and SMACKDOWN.
Now that Austin has been canned from the WWE, do you think it's possible for THE ROCK to assume the position of Sherriff? The Rock could be sherriff for both Raw and Smackdown.
Here's what I'm thinking:
1) With The Rock as sheriff for both Smackdown and Raw, The Rock can have a role on television WITHOUT having to wrestle.
2) The Rock can obviously help ratings out a bit.
3) The Rock doesn't have to be on EACH and EVERY show all the time. A lot of times, he can cut satellite promos. Perhaps like the Undertaker is now, The Rock can be a 'special attraction' and show up (LIVE) on a part-time basis.
I'm not sure how compatible this would be with The Rock's Hollywood schedule (or how much the WWE would actually have to pay The Rock for his television appearances), but I'm sure something could be worked out.
Rock Bottom
04-18-2004, 08:51 PM
The Rock on TV would be a good thing for me, but honestly, I don't see The Rock as an authority type. It doesn't clique with me. Austin is one thing, because he is the mirror opposite, but honestly I think it'd get old quick, as much as I love The Rock. Even if he didn't Rock Bottom every piece of rising talent on the card, I think he would probably overshadow alot of the promos in a role like that. Also, it wouldn't help to have people asking for matches and The Rock to be like, "Who in the blue hell are you?"
I dunno. I would like to see it, regardless of how I think it wouldn't work, because I am a Rock mark.
The Naitch
04-18-2004, 08:52 PM
I wish. I only wish :(
Heyman, do you know what Rock's schedule is gonna be like nowadays?
Heyman
04-18-2004, 09:07 PM
I wish. I only wish :(
Heyman, do you know what Rock's schedule is gonna be like nowadays?
NO idea.
:::waits for The CyNick to respond::::
:)
OssMan
04-18-2004, 09:07 PM
Well, since Smackdown is named after a catchphrase by The Rock, it's only fair for him to be on the show.
Heyman
04-18-2004, 09:11 PM
The Rock on TV would be a good thing for me, but honestly, I don't see The Rock as an authority type. It doesn't clique with me.
Not sure if I concur with that. The Rock can come across as 'assertive' in my opinion. I think he'll be very comfortable in telling others what to do.
Austin is one thing, because he is the mirror opposite, but honestly I think it'd get old quick, as much as I love The Rock. Even if he didn't Rock Bottom every piece of rising talent on the card, I think he would probably overshadow alot of the promos in a role like that. Also, it wouldn't help to have people asking for matches and The Rock to be like, "Who in the blue hell are you?"
I see what you're saying, but I don't think The Rock should be on TV ALL the time (if my plan ever went into effect). He'd work part-time (much more than he does now), and would show up on either Raw or Smackdown on these occassions (laying down the law).
This way
a) he keeps a fresh face on TV (which helps his 'value' as an actor).
b) he helps ratings
c) he doesn't have to wrestle and cripple his body, etc.
I dunno. I would like to see it, regardless of how I think it wouldn't work, because I am a Rock mark.
To be honest - I'd love to see a future Rock vs. Randy Orton feud. If The Rock was on TV more, the WWE could really build around that feud.
The Naitch
04-18-2004, 09:15 PM
Yeah, the Rock being Sheriff makes sense (Walking Tall). Maybe he can have a deputy. Whoever that deputy will be, or she, will be mad over.
I say maybe someone like Rosey (could work as an enforcement character)
Or maybe a sidekick (please no Hurricane) maybe Rock can use Mick Foley...
or a chick. Maybe Trish can be this slut that's forced to work for The Rock because of a stipulation in a match that Jericho won. The Rock can make Trish "his verbal bitch"
Rock Bottom
04-18-2004, 09:21 PM
Yeah, and he was a sheriff in Walking Tall and all, but that was a totally different scenerio with me, I think The Rock belongs in the ring if he's gonna be on TV.
Rock Bottom
04-18-2004, 09:23 PM
To be honest - I'd love to see a future Rock vs. Randy Orton feud. If The Rock was on TV more, the WWE could really build around that feud.
I'd love to see that too, and it could make Orton shine. But the only way I'd book it is by The Rock going over cleanly. Next to alot of guys, Randy Orton looks like a rising star. Next to The Rock however, I would see a lesser version of The Rock who hasn't quite reached his level yet... Not that he ever will. I mean I hope he does, but I doubt it.
The Naitch
04-18-2004, 09:24 PM
Of course, he'll have the occasional match, don't worry. Like an ACTIVE sheriff, instead of some out of shape Stone Cold.
It's just that there's no one Rock can really wrestle at the moment. Until Orton or Cena are lined up enough, then Rock can have a real high profile match with either of them.
The Naitch
04-18-2004, 09:27 PM
Yeah, I'm sick of Rock jobbing all over the place. It makes him look weak in the long run.
Watson
04-18-2004, 09:28 PM
Personally I think the whole "Sheriff" angle is stupid and pointless.
Rock Bottom
04-18-2004, 09:28 PM
Yeah The Rock could wrestle just about anyone and give them a rub, I really have no idea what you're talking about. Rock could make the following people famous, even if he won:
Batista, Orton, Kane (as in, famous again), Edge, Michaels (Michaels is already famous, but I am saying, that would draw like a mother fuc</>ker), Benoit (again, also famous, but The Rock losing a respectable match to Benoit would make Benoit look indestructable).
Yeah, Rock whether he's winning or losing could really help out alot of the roster.
The Naitch
04-18-2004, 09:29 PM
In your opinion, will Rock ever be at his "2000 peak" ever again, or will he just fade away?
Rock Bottom
04-18-2004, 09:29 PM
Also, that was just the RAW roster, I am not even going to begin to mention The Rock giving SmackDown guys like Mysterio a rub.
Rock Bottom
04-18-2004, 09:31 PM
In your opinion, will Rock ever be at his "2000 peak" ever again, or will he just fade away?
I dunno if you're asking me or Heyman. But if you're asking me, it's really hard to say from my point of view, being that Rock is my all-time favorite. I actually think he is pretty much at his peak right now. 2000, to me, was basically just the prelude to what The Rock will offer the entertainment industry. Him going over at Wrestlemania XIX was probably the highlight of his career in my eyes, considering how badly he dominated the match.
Rock Bottom
04-18-2004, 09:38 PM
I am warming up to this idea more Heyman, they are really lacking those huge names right now, and are going to have a hard time making some of the younger guys famous without guys like The Rock to pass the torch. Unfortunately, The Rock's last two jobs were done to assholes who aren't even in the WWE anymore. Anyway, when you say The Rock could help the ratings, that is probably the most important aspect of the idea. Alot more people would watch if Rock was on there more. (And by more, I mean more than once a year.)
And also, and I just thought of this, Rock taking over the whole sheriff role would probably make a great deal of people not miss Austin as much. I mean alot of us don't miss him (I personally do), but I think it would detract from attention being on the fact that all the sudden, Austin is not on TV anymore. Well, maybe not, but it would sure water it down immensely.
The Naitch
04-18-2004, 09:41 PM
I think Rock will maintain a "consistency" in the entertainment business (film and wrestling) But I seriously think he needs to take at least a year off to focus strictly on wrestling to remind the fans WHY he became such a huge star in the first place. But then again, you need to be in the Hollywood spotlight or else people will forget about you. Oh and btw way,
The Rock > Vin Diesel
:yes:
Rock Bottom
04-18-2004, 09:44 PM
I actually think Vin Diesel could rule if he weren't put in such gay scripts made to make the 16 year old audience shit their pants.
The Naitch
04-18-2004, 09:51 PM
The Rock = next Arnold
Vin Diesel = Steven Siegal
although they are similar in appearance, they are very different.
I'm going out now. It's beautiful outside.
I think The Rock should be kept away from authority positions completely. I think it'd be harmful to his character if he's restricted to being an authority figure because it'd go stale fast whether he's a face or heel. Authority figures in general are stale, but now a days they're essential to run a decent promotion.
Sure, The Rock would cut some great, comedic promos, but I prefer The Rock as a part-time wrestler. Cuts amazing promos every time he returns because the fans aren't always exposed to him. If The Rock was an authority figure, the fans would constantly be expecting him to cut a promo that'd get stale easily.
Unfortunately, it's weekly promos that are reducing John Cena's charisma.
Heyman
04-18-2004, 10:10 PM
Sure, The Rock would cut some great, comedic promos, but I prefer The Rock as a part-time wrestler.
Yes - but by 'part time', do you mean once or twice a year? I'd much rather see The Rock make one or two appearances a MONTH. This way - The Rock still keeps a face on TV, but still manages to stay fresh (as you alluded to).
Yes - but by 'part time', do you mean once or twice a year? I'd much rather see The Rock make one or two appearances a MONTH. This way - The Rock still keeps a face on TV, but still manages to stay fresh (as you alluded to).I was alluding to once or twice a year.
Once or twice a month would be good too, but I can't see that working if The Rock is an authority figure.
1) With The Rock as sheriff for both Smackdown and Raw, The Rock can have a role on television WITHOUT having to wrestle.
I don't think him having to wrestle was ever a factor in him not wrestling.
The CyNick
04-19-2004, 01:22 AM
I would love to see Rock back on WWE TV in any capacity, unfortunately it aint gonna happen, and here why:
Rock's WWE contract is about to run out (September I think), and I highly doubt he will re-sign a deal that involves him being a regular character on any of the shows. In fact he may not even sign at all, however there's a good chance he will sign some sort of deal just so that the WWE will continue to plug his movies on TV.
Next problem is how busy he is right now. He's currently filming a movie with John Travolta (Be Cool or whatever), then he has a movie called Instant Karma, Spy Hunter, and likely a movie about a Hawaiin King (Kuthamamenem or something like that) still in the works. Now thats just stuff he is already on board to be a part (or at least heavily rumoured to be). There was also talk a while back that he would be in Terminator 4, but I haven't heard much about that recently. So that should keep him busy for the next couple of years.
On top of that there is the money issue. Rock has already made something like $30 mil off the fiilms he's already completed, plus he still needs to get paid for the films he's lined up to do. So even if all his films flop, and he gets booted from Hollywood he would still never have to work in a WWE ring again for the rest of his life. He's said on numerous occasions that he'd like to do a match every year or so, but there's no way he'll be a regular character.
I as much as anyone would like to see him back, but it just doesn't make sense for him to come back, and really why would he?
Heyman
04-19-2004, 03:07 AM
I as much as anyone would like to see him back, but it just doesn't make sense for him to come back, and really why would he?
The LOVE for the face pop and limelight. Hulk Hogan is also another guy who has millions of dollars. Why does an old fart like him continue to wrestle?.....and doesn't just f</>uck off and die?
Besides - The Rock wouldn't have to 'physically punish himself' and take beatings. With the sheriff role, he could just do what he does best......and talk sh</>it.
Hell - even as Sherrif, The Rock can just cut satellite promos from his home or something. Once or twice a month, he can then show up live.
From a financial standpoint, The Rock doesn't need the WWE. From an ego standpoint however (i.e. the 'limelight' and 'face pop'), it's addicting. Also - being on WWE TV could help him with his movie career (since it keeps him on TV).
tucsonspeed6
04-19-2004, 02:01 PM
I actually think Vin Diesel could rule if he weren't put in such gay scripts made to make the 16 year old audience shit their pants.
Scratching my nuts for 16 hours straight with a pinecone > watching the best scenes from "The Fast and the Craptacular", "xXcrap", etc.
Actually, he wasn't too bad in Pitch Black. I believe his newest movie is a sequel to that, but they don't really say anything about it. I heard he's got a big ego problem that really holds back his casting potential these days (nobody wants to work with the guy). Too bad.
tucsonspeed6
04-19-2004, 02:07 PM
The LOVE for the face pop and limelight. Hulk Hogan is also another guy who has millions of dollars. Why does an old fart like him continue to wrestle?.....and doesn't just f</>uck off and die?
Besides - The Rock wouldn't have to 'physically punish himself' and take beatings. With the sheriff role, he could just do what he does best......and talk sh</>it.
Hell - even as Sherrif, The Rock can just cut satellite promos from his home or something. Once or twice a month, he can then show up live.
From a financial standpoint, The Rock doesn't need the WWE. From an ego standpoint however (i.e. the 'limelight' and 'face pop'), it's addicting. Also - being on WWE TV could help him with his movie career (since it keeps him on TV).
Cutting Satelite promos wouldn't really make for good sherrif... unless they used it as part of his character, shifting him to the heel sheriff appointed by Vinnie Mac. He'd be a good sheriff until he gets lazy and doesn't even show up to the shows anymore. He really wouldn't have any feuds, but it'd give him some camera time, like you said. The idea might work, but honestly I don't see it happening, because the WWE doesn't really NEED a sheriff role to be filled. They just invented it because Austin couldn't wrestle.
The CyNick
04-19-2004, 04:54 PM
The LOVE for the face pop and limelight. Hulk Hogan is also another guy who has millions of dollars. Why does an old fart like him continue to wrestle?.....and doesn't just f</>uck off and die?
Besides - The Rock wouldn't have to 'physically punish himself' and take beatings. With the sheriff role, he could just do what he does best......and talk sh</>it.
Hell - even as Sherrif, The Rock can just cut satellite promos from his home or something. Once or twice a month, he can then show up live.
From a financial standpoint, The Rock doesn't need the WWE. From an ego standpoint however (i.e. the 'limelight' and 'face pop'), it's addicting. Also - being on WWE TV could help him with his movie career (since it keeps him on TV).
But cutting promos from his home isn't going to give him that adreniline rush that being in front of a live audience would.
Plus, even if he only shows up once or twice a month (which he doesn't have time to do even if he wanted to) thats still two or three times a month he has to travel to some arena, deal with the WWE crap, deal with airports and all the crap that goes into travelling.
The comparison to Hogan isn't fair. Rock has been successful in Hollywood, Hogan never was. Thats the difference, Hogan still needed wrestling to be in the limelight, whereas Rock doesn't.
I already touched on the fact that he probably will sign some type of deal where the WWE promotes his movies, and he shows up for a match once a year at Mania or whatever.
At this point Rock totally doesn't need wrestling, anything he does in the business is just because he really loves the fans. But the thought of him coming back for ANY steady role on TV is absurd at this point.
The Naitch
04-19-2004, 05:07 PM
CONCLUSION- The Rock as "sheriff" of both RAW and SMACKDOWN.
No. He will continue to do the same old shit. Show up a month or two before Wrestlemania. Every year for as long as he lives. Done.
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