As AWESOME as The Rock was... [Archive]

rated rjo

07-28-2010, 08:17 PM

It just kills me sometimes that his influence led to the creation of stupid, overly theatrical, copycat moves that don't look like they would ever do damage to a guy in a million years! You might also consider this thread a dedication to how much I absolutely HATE the "Five Knuckle Shuffle" and MVP's "Ballin' Elbow Drop."
:rant: :mad:

<object width="560" height="340"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/WIOYecDbXQ0&hl=en_US&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/WIOYecDbXQ0&hl=en_US&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="560" height="340"></embed></object>

<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/fL121S9UaN0&hl=en_US&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/fL121S9UaN0&hl=en_US&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

Say what you want, but at least the Rock made The People's Elbow look "Electrifying" and like it would hurt a guy.

Londoner

07-28-2010, 08:32 PM

I have to agree.

VSG

07-28-2010, 08:32 PM

Cool King

07-28-2010, 09:03 PM

Razzamajazz

07-28-2010, 09:15 PM

any top rope flippy move is just ridiculous as something that's believable

the shooting star press and any given splash come to mind

Triple Naitch

07-28-2010, 09:17 PM

Did you really quote yourself in your sig?

VSG

07-28-2010, 09:22 PM

Did you really quote yourself in your sig?

Ok I didn't notice that.

rated rjo

07-28-2010, 09:28 PM

Did you really quote yourself in your sig?

What can I say about that but....:shifty:

Savio

07-28-2010, 10:02 PM

I liked the worm

Kane Knight

07-28-2010, 10:14 PM

If you think The People's Elbow did it, then you're an idiot.

Droford

07-28-2010, 10:23 PM

Santino does that Falling Salute headbutt thing that he used to do off the top rope, now he just does it sorta like the 5KS/PE

legendkillerRKO

07-28-2010, 10:24 PM

It was not the Rock....here is the originator of the pointless "Signature Move"....

<object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/tilBNfIU7JI&hl=en_US&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/tilBNfIU7JI&hl=en_US&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>

Gertner

07-28-2010, 10:25 PM

I'm sure Hgan putting his hand to his ear before doing his leg drop would have something to say about it.

legendkillerRKO

07-28-2010, 10:26 PM

I'm sure Hgan putting his hand to his ear before doing his leg drop would have something to say about it.

we think along the same lines here!

Kane Knight

07-28-2010, 10:31 PM

Hogan sure did find ways to camp up a gay soap opera.

XL

07-28-2010, 11:03 PM

We're tlking about different eras there though. A Leg Drop was a finisher in Hogan's day.

As for the People's Elbow, people always try to sell it as a move that "puts an exclamtion mark on the match" as in, The Rock has you beat before he hits it and is just doing it to show off. Whether you buy that or not is up to you.

The Pope

07-28-2010, 11:06 PM

Gertner

07-28-2010, 11:11 PM

Hogan has you beat before the match with his 24 inch pythons brother!

rated rjo

07-28-2010, 11:12 PM

We're tlking about different eras there though. A Leg Drop was a finisher in Hogan's day.

As for the People's Elbow, people always try to sell it as a move that "puts an exclamtion mark on the match" as in, The Rock has you beat before he hits it and is just doing it to show off. Whether you buy that or not is up to you.

This right here... This is what I was going for.:yes:

rated rjo

07-28-2010, 11:48 PM

rated rjo

07-28-2010, 11:53 PM

DAMN iNATOR

07-28-2010, 11:55 PM

We're tlking about different eras there though. A Leg Drop was a finisher in Hogan's day.

As for the People's Elbow, people always try to sell it as a move that "puts an exclamtion mark on the match" as in, The Rock has you beat before he hits it and is just doing it to show off. Whether you buy that or not is up to you.

Are you saying the same couldn't be sometimes said of Hogan's Leg Drop? I mean surely he must have had a few easy opponents who he could beat with the Hulk Up combination (finger wag, punch x3, irish whip w/boot to the face) as easily as he could with the leg drop. And the leg drop was pretty showy itself, especially given how Hogan would whip the crowd into a frenzy by putting his hand up to his ear and pointing at the poor schmuck who would soon be flattened.

SlickyTrickyDamon

07-29-2010, 12:11 AM

The Ballin' Elbow and Five Knuckle Shuffle aren't even finishers.

rated rjo

07-29-2010, 12:36 AM

Let's be clear.... YES! Hogan popularized the over-the-top finishing maneuver. Obviously lots of wrestlers followed his example when it came to those huge finisher setups: Warrior, Earthquake, HTM, HBK, Taker, etc.

The point is, those were all finishers. The People's Elbow was never a finisher, nor was it meant to be. It's a signature move that really got the crowd riled up. And you knew that the Rock Bottom was coming after. I know The Great One has been influenced by Hogan because he's said so countless times. I'm not trying to claim the Rock originated flashy moves. Hell... even for all he's given to the business, Hogan can't even claim THAT one.

However... That stupid "Truffle Shuffle" of Cena's and "Air Ball Elbow Drop" look and play out like blatant ripoffs of "The People's Elbow". It's just sad how weak they look. It feels like Vince is trying to create a new Rock by having his guys do "Rock"-like moves.

Somehow I get the feeling that this is going to be the part where people mention Orton and Austin....
:-\

jskinnyg

07-29-2010, 01:05 AM

I TOTALLY AGREE WITH THIS THREAD 100%... Nicely played RJO...

Snowden

07-29-2010, 02:13 AM

My problem with the Five Knuckle Shuffle isn't with the impact of the move (you lay there and let a guy jump in the air and punch you in the face and tell me how it feels), its the fact that everyone Cena faces falls for the sequence. You'd think that people would watch Cena's matches and know that after he shoulder blocks you twice, don't flail at him.

I can't wait until someone counters the sequence and just lays Cena out...would be a total markout moment for me.

rated rjo

07-29-2010, 02:40 AM

I can't wait until someone counters the sequence and just lays Cena out...would be a total markout moment for me.

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

XL

07-29-2010, 03:35 AM

You can't apply logic to wrestling though. f most matches finish when some hits their "finisher", why doesn't every wrestler just spent the entire match trying to hit their finisher?

Sixx

07-29-2010, 08:21 AM

Also, Road Dogg used his jiggy-wiggy knee drop before The Rock came up with The People's Elbow, I think.

Kane Knight

07-29-2010, 08:27 AM

My problem with the Five Knuckle Shuffle isn't with the impact of the move (you lay there and let a guy jump in the air and punch you in the face and tell me how it feels), its the fact that everyone Cena faces falls for the sequence. You'd think that people would watch Cena's matches and know that after he shoulder blocks you twice, don't flail at him.

I can't wait until someone counters the sequence and just lays Cena out...would be a total markout moment for me.

Yeah, and why don't people get out of the way when Michaels "Strikes up the band?"

KIRA

07-29-2010, 09:09 AM

Yeah, and why don't people get out of the way when Michaels "Strikes up the band?"

They have,As a kid I recorded a Monday Night Raw in which Yokozuna dropped HBK mid-move I remember LMAO
and to Shawns credit he became a lot more unpredictable with the SCM before he retired forgoing "striking up the band" on numerous occasions.

Kane Knight

07-29-2010, 11:14 AM

*facepalm*

DrCrawford

07-29-2010, 12:51 PM

yeah road dogg did that and it was awesome

i hate the five knuckle shuffle and even more so ballin'

The Pope

07-29-2010, 12:58 PM

You can't apply logic to wrestling though. f most matches finish when some hits their "finisher", why doesn't every wrestler just spent the entire match trying to hit their finisher?

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rof l::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::r ofl::rofl::rofl:

Snowden

07-29-2010, 01:27 PM

Yeah, and why don't people get out of the way when Michaels "Strikes up the band?"

Same difference, agreed. Its not just the hated John Cena who has telegraphed moves.

Anybody Thrilla

07-29-2010, 01:29 PM

I feel like the People's Elbow often came AFTER the Rock Bottom. Am I remembering it wrong?

BigDaddyCool

07-29-2010, 01:40 PM

I feel like the People's Elbow often came AFTER the Rock Bottom. Am I remembering it wrong?

I believe it went spinebuster to people's elbow to rock bottom to weakest sharp shooter ever.

BigDaddyCool

07-29-2010, 01:42 PM

BigDaddyCool

07-29-2010, 01:43 PM

BigDaddyCool

07-29-2010, 01:46 PM