Battlefield 3

[Mooияakeя™]

Ok, so it's not out for like a year, but get the MoH: LE edition and you get access to the beta toward the end of the year.

But either way, who is getting and I don't care what anyone says it's still gonna be awesome. BF2 was moaned about (fact is you can't please anyone), but even 5 years on it still is amazing.

Apparently, Dice have said it's modern combat and they're bringing back at least 64 player action. Both awesome (although i did like 2142 also). Also, it will use Frostbite 2. But Dice are worried it won't work on the consoles as it's pushing the boundaries. They say it's not gonna be port and mastered to each platform.

Well, I'm getting it. But i think my clan days are over :(

[Kalyx triaD]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Fignuts]

Fuck yes. Had soooooooooo many maps for bf2. Might have to finaly upgrade the PC, cause console isn't an option far as i'm concerned.

[Kalyx triaD]

Wishlist:


May prone never return. BC and BC2 has offered the fruits of this gutsy design choice and I deem them good. Not that it stops Recon whores but I rather that than the alternative.
There should be Squad Captains that can talk to other captains so some semblance of team community can happen.
Conquest, Rush, Squad DM are probably a given, but let's get some CTF in there.
Some adaptation of BC2's general control. That would be epic.


Betting they're looking to MAG and that's all good.

[Mooияakeя™]

Planes to return also. I couldn't fly for fuck, but loved 2nd seat bombing with a good pilot.

Also, I prefer the old ribbons. I felt so much more acheivment getting the pins and ribbons that when I was getting them in BC2 and even 2142.

[Fignuts]

Been playing BF2 again in anticipation. Comp probably won't be able to handle 3, sadly.

[Mooияakeя™]

Fignuts, u play BC2? (ON PC this is).

[Fignuts]

Nope. Dunno if my comp could handle it, and I like battlefield 2 better anyway.

[Shaggy]

Just finally got all my achievements for 2 last night...all except demolition man of course...

That damn achievement is gonna take me forever...

[Kalyx triaD]

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...Jets...

[Fignuts]

Meh, got nothing from that. New jets were in, as they were in battlefield 1 and 2 as well.

[Kalyx triaD]

But not in the Frostbite games.

[CSL]

64 player multiplayer son.

Don't see the need for them to add prone but I'm guessing it's because of the crying Call of Duty folk so I get it.

[CSL]

Oh 64 players is PC only. Gay.

[Kalyx triaD]

Is this new info? From where?! Tell me?!

[CSL]

http://twitter.com/#!/battlefield

http://blogs.battlefield.ea.com/battlefield_bad_company/archive/2011/02/04/battlefield-3-is-coming-preorder-now.aspx

[Kalyx triaD]

Gotcha. Guess the babies got their prone back in, whatever. PC players are gonna have some epic battles.

Hope console version doesn't get gutted like B2.

[Fignuts]

But not in the Frostbite games.

Doesn't matter. It is an original series battlefield game. It was always going to have jets.

[Fignuts]

Debating whether I should beef up my PC or not, and this is a big factor. Battlefield on consoles does not compare to Battlefield on PC.

Bigger matches, and awesome custom content. Would be cool if BF had something like Unreal Tournament 3, where you could put custom created maps on the console version via flash drive.

[The Destroyer]

Doesn't matter. It is an original series battlefield game. It was always going to have jets.
Should be interesting combining them with the Frostbite engine though. Could cause absolute chaos plowing a jet into a building, for example.

[Mooияakeя™]

Debating whether I should beef up my PC or not, and this is a big factor. Battlefield on consoles does not compare to Battlefield on PC.

Yes you should.


64 player multiplayer son. Don't see the need for them to add prone but I'm guessing it's because of the crying Call of Duty folk so I get it.

It's because it's not a Bad Company game, but following the Battlefield series, so it's back in. Nout to do with COD.

[Mooияakeя™]

Irritating things:

Nothing has been carried over from Special Forces (Tear gas / zip lines)
No commander
Killcam WILL be in
It'll probably be 4 classes again (each class was a big decision in BF2 imo compared)
Medals are probably not makinga comeback and it'll be the same as like BC2.

Good things:
Destructive environments (and this FB 2.0 is meant to mind blowing)
Squad sizes should be 6 people again, not 4
Karkand may be coming back as a downloadable
32v32 is baccccckkkkk!


Things I'd like to transfer over from BC2:
Being able to spawn on member of your squad - most SL do not want to hold back like you would have to in BF2 to attack right.

In my ideal world, Bad Company should be for consoles and the vanilla Battlefield for PC. Then we can have our cake and they can eat it.

[CSL]

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[Kalyx triaD]

Frankly won't believe that til I see a live demo. One of the things I don't mind about Battlefield is that the visuals aren't super-kick-ass because of the scale of what's going on [in multiplayer]. If the game looks like that throughout that would be a leap for the series. Looks sexy.

Hope we get multiplayer details at E3 (the E3 I says will be very fan friendly).

[Fignuts]

That could very likely be the PC version kalyx, in which case it will look that good. But not on consoles.

[Kalyx triaD]

Bah.

[The Destroyer]

I imagine it'll still look respectably sexy on consoles too.

[Mooияakeя™]

No doubt the vid is of single player. Whatever, they just need to sort the netcode and we'll be good to go.

[Extreme Angle]

Gonna get a new computer sorted out to take to uni with me.
Never really been much of a pc gamer, but looking into it, seems much funner and cheaper.

[Kalyx triaD]

Netcode was fine for me.

[Mooияakeя™]

Hitboxes are insanely off in BF2, I have to admit, bar some random crap here and there, BC2 is not actually that bad, hence why I said I hope they sort it. They can defo take a lot from BC2, I'm not totally against it at all, I really like it, just really wanted an updated BF2 I guess. I didn't enjoy commanding so much, but loved that option.

[The Destroyer]

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Longer version of the campaign trailer.

[Kalyx triaD]

- Studying the vid; yeah, that shit is running real time. I find the animation interesting and would like to see the new animation system on a player's avatar.

- Will be waiting to see if PS3/XB360 could run anything like that video (PC), but in any case muletiplayer will not look like that. But even a gimped version of that engine would look really sweet.

- Still, I'm more interested in multiplayer details. Dice shared some philosophy in this month's GI but I wanna see how that translates.

[Ermaximus]

Current release date is 1/12/12. This date is shit as the game is likely to get a November release this year.

[Mooияakeя™]

Right, I advise not posting this around as EA DICE will prob remove it (note the title is a throw off and it's a non-shared link to try to avoid the big wigs)

But here goes, some vid of in game shit.

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[Kalyx triaD]

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[Kalyx triaD]

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[Buzzkill]

This looks exactly like every other FPS, dunno why everyone is so juiced about this. Graphics are sick and there are some nice set pieces outside, but don't really see anything to get that psyched over.

[Kalyx triaD]

Because the multiplayer will be fucking awesome. Fuck the single player. I posted this as a general update.

[Requiem]

It looks fun as hell. IDK. Just looking at it, it looks really responsive and a blast. I have enjoyed BF games in the past, but never enough to really play the hell out of them. Something about this one tells me the MP should be enough to take me away from CoD games.

[Kalyx triaD]

Just imagining doing bombing runs while my squad is danger close as they head toward the objective gives me chills.

[G]

they're multiplying, and I'm losing control

[G]

Cause the power you're supplying

it's electrifying

[Mooияakeя™]

Because the multiplayer will be fucking awesome. Fuck the single player. I posted this as a general update.

Exactly this.

I know it's what EA wants etc as a return, but seriously, I hope many stay with CoD as I predict they will. Whilst having a competitor SHOULD make better games as they want to up their products respectively, I also don't see BF as a replacement for COD. Like when BF2 came out and I was playing Counter Strike Source. They're totally different. The MP will show that. 32v32, air, land and sea vehicles, ground forces... Good times again. Though leaving out Zip lines and Grapple hooks and tear gas from BF2:SF was a fail imo, but meh.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Seen an ad for it tonight. Goddamn that engine looks amazing, hoping they use it on something I'm actually interested in playing one day.

I'll grab it from a Steam sale one day.

[Kalyx triaD]

- Multiplayer details at E3.
- Co-op campaign.
- Team Death Match is a dedicated feature now.
- Online community hub for stats and such to launch with game. Pretty much like Bungie.net or the upcoming CoD Elite (more like B.net in that it's free for now).

[Kalyx triaD]

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[Fignuts]

Yeah, that looks crazy awesome.

[Ermaximus]

Ok, so aside from Kalyx, who would like to join our squad when this drops on day 1?

[Kalyx triaD]

I'm not even gonna analyze, that vid speaks for itself. Nuff said.

[Blitz]

Might get this.

[Kalyx triaD]

There's a trailer showing a tank battle from the campaign. My god. Dice managed to take that fake-ass prerendered trailer for PS3's Killzone and pretty much deliver.

[The Destroyer]

The only thing I'm a bit concerned about is that map seems quite urbanised and in close. Hope there's a good balance of settings in maps, I've always liked big wide open maps.

[Kalyx triaD]

Jets are back.

[The Destroyer]

Yeah but maybe you get to fly them in cramped cities. :shifty:

I do kind of wish I had a decent enough PC to play this on, but I suppose I can settle for the 360 version. I'm just concerned that it coming out so close to MW3 is really going to dent sales.

[Ermaximus]

Yeah but maybe you get to fly them in cramped cities. :shifty:

I do kind of wish I had a decent enough PC to play this on, but I suppose I can settle for the 360 version. I'm just concerned that it coming out so close to MW3 is really going to dent sales.

I think it'll have the exact opposite effect actually. It coming out 2 weeks prior to MW3 will certainly pull some of the lesser die hard CoD players to BF3. BF3 is much more intense online and the fact you can do so much more is going to help boost the games sales overall IMO. That and the fact MW3 isn't being made by the 2 main guys that made the first 2 MW games.

[Fignuts]

There's a trailer showing a tank battle from the campaign. My god. Dice managed to take that fake-ass prerendered trailer for PS3's Killzone and pretty much deliver.

Well, pretty sure it is the PC version being shown.

[Kalyx triaD]

Assault Class:
- Merged with Medic. You take lives at the front, and heal them. Makes sense, as medics are needed most where the line is drawn, and trench monkeys draw that line.

Engineer:
- Still repairs and destroys vehicles.
- Has a flash light that blinds enemies (lol wut?).

Support:
- Where the light machine gun lies, you can set a tripod anywhere and lay 'suppressing fire'. Suppressing Fire blurs enemies vision.

Recon:
- Nerfed somehow.

[The Destroyer]

Hmm, wonder if the Support class gets Assault's ammo pack ability now that it doesn't have medkits. Would seem weird for one class to have both.

[Kalyx triaD]

That sounds likely.

[Ermaximus]

Medic Assault?
"Here's some ammo." "But I need a health kit dumbass." "Well then you're fucked."

I can't say I agree with this, but I'll give it a try before I judge. Still don't see what good a flashlight does though. I mean yeah you blind someone close range, but that's if they haven't shot you in the head while you're running towards them with a flashlight like a re-re.

[Kalyx triaD]

I'll find a use for it.

[The Destroyer]

Dammit, just realised I'm going on holiday the day before this gets released in the UK, so I miss out on playing it for 2 weeks.

[Ermaximus]

Are you getting it for PC or a console Baird?

[Extreme Angle]

PC here... Not that I was asked :)

[Kalyx triaD]

XB360, of course. With Ermax, Khuntry, my bro, and others. Gonna love getting the band back together.

[Ermaximus]

XB360, of course. With Ermax, Khuntry, my bro, and others. Gonna love getting the band back together.

I knew you were 360 sir, but I was curious about Baird. Wanted to know if we could work him into our squad of "rape sauce."

You, Khuntry, your bro, me, Recycled Human, Flapjaxx, and Sephiroth. Beast of a team.

[Requiem]

Team ReqXer will dominate all of you.

[RoXer]

I guess this mean I have to get this on 360 also

[Requiem]

What were you going to get it for? PS3? I would, but Biff doesn't have a PS3. And my PC sucks too much to be able to enjoy it as much on PC, so I'm just going 360. Still think it is going to be just as fun.

[RoXer]

Wasn't going to buy it, I have an early access token on Goozex so I used it for the PS3 version to play with G.

Probly still won't buy it. You'll have to wait til I Goozex it a few months after.

[RoXer]

Or maybe I will get it. I dunno

[Requiem]

Honestly haven't been this excited for a shooter in probably 5 or 6 years. It just looks like a blast, and seems really well done. Like they were finally trying to outdo Call of Duty in every way. Think they've been putting out all these gorgeous gameplay videos for a while because they really want people focused on them instead of whatever MW3 puts out. Of course, I could get it and absolutely hate the multi-player or something.. but I have high hopes right now and I will be getting it on launch day probably.

[LoDownM]

I hope they do the weapon/class items/uh perks i guess? unlocks different in this then in BC2. I've got everything unlocked in BC2 and I am only rank 26 or something and don't see a reason to get to 50 and haven't played it in like 5 months.

[The Destroyer]

Are you getting it for PC or a console Baird?
360 for me.

Although the latest batch of trailers make me wish I had some obscenely powerful PC to run it on. Gorgeous.

[Fignuts]

My 360 should be back up and running by then, so yeah.

[Requiem]

Team NutReqXer

[Fignuts]

We'll be victorious, as long as Miotch doesn't try to play with us.

That guy sucks.

[Buzzkill]

If they're able to match or beat CoD's aiming mechanics, I'm in. BF2 was just too clunky for me.

[Kalyx triaD]

Gun fighting in Battlefied is way more satisfying than CoD's bird neck, duck hunt thing it has.

[Ermaximus]

Battlefield is more open and that's why I love it. Plus the fact you can't spawn camp, very well anyways.

I really hope they keep the dog tags for knife kills thing in 3. My BC2 knife kills are sitting at almost 2,000. I just love to knife unsuspecting recon guys who think they are safe by hiding. Ghillie suit ain't got shit on me son!

[Kalyx triaD]

And spotting is one of the greatest things to happen to a FPS. Along with soft auto-aim.

Working with a well oiled squad of friends is something else. Getting best squad medals is something more. I love Battlefield.

[Mooияakeя™]

Knife is fail in BC2. Automatic crap. So annoying. Hope it goes back to BF2 style for BF3.

[Kalyx triaD]

Knife works well for me.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Jim Sterling thought I had seen a ghost or something when I ran into him on my way back to the press room at E3. What actually left the look of shock on my face was that I just got hands-on with Battlefield 3's (http://www.destructoid.com/gdc-11-battlefield-3-is-easily-the-best-looking-fps-yet-195425.phtml) multiplayer. I only got about fifteen minutes of action, but it was enough to blow my mind. You guys. Battlefield 3 is f*cking amazing!


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[URL="http://www.ea.com/battlefield3"]Battlefield 3 (http://www.ea.com/battlefield3) (PC [previewed], PlayStation 3, Xbox 360)
Developer: EA DICE
Publisher: Electronic Arts
To be released: October 25, 2011
DICE threw us on a slowly expanding map set in downtown Paris in Rush mode. I was on the attackers side and my team had to arm and destroy two key points in each section of the level, the first of which was in a park. All of the outside portions where surrounded by buildings and showed off the dense urban environments DICE is pushing hard. The Frostbite 2 engine is a powerful beast and I don't expect we'll be seeing the many open and blank environments we're used to in past Battlefield games.
While I didn't witness this in my playthrough, facade destruction will be a big part of the urban combat. Players can hide on different floors of a building utilizing the many cover opportunities. The cover can be destroyed to expose enemies though and the falling pieces of the building can even kill anyone unlucky enough to be on the streets below.


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The lighting system has been improved immensely as well and I got a good example of it in the second portion of the level in the subway system. The lights in the subway tunnel can be shot up so you're completely in the dark and hard to spot. Alternatively, I got to see how the Engineer class utilizes the light attached on his gun to blind other players by shining it right into their eyes.


Speaking of classes, each one has gone through a change, some of which was based on feedback right from the community. The biggest change is the fusion between the medic and assault roles. The Combat Medic has the same assault traits, but can now pack medic features such as first aid kits and shock paddles to revive downed players.
The Engineer class still can fix and repair vehicles and the sniper class can now hold his breath for a few seconds while trying to take the shot. The counter to that though is that the sniper will sway heavily for a few seconds as he catches his breath.


The biggest, and coolest change, in my opinion, is with the Support class. You can now deploy a bipod on the heavy machine gun on various surface for increased stability. Alternatively, players can go prone for better accuracy with any weapon. That's not that cool part. The cool part is that players will now get points for laying down suppressing fire. Shooting at the general direction of an enemy is always key, but now you'll get rewarded with points for it. Plus affected players by the suppressing fire will see their screen dim and shake.


Dog tags are getting a little revamp as well and will be customizable with sayings and different designs. The tags appear on a players screen after you killed them to add insult to injury.
I played through as the Combat Medic, Support and Engineer class and each one was just awesome. I sadly didn't have time to get into it as the Sniper, probably for the best as I abuse that class anyway. I need to play a lot more than just one simple round to get a real feel for Battlefield 3, but the the shock and awe I experienced was just enough to hold me over until the October release (http://www.destructoid.com/e3-battlefield-3-out-on-october-25-202990.phtml).


That reminds me, I should start looking into upgrading my computer. No way am I playing Battlefield 3 on a console.

[Kalyx triaD]

Hope most of the cool stuff transfers to console.

[Emperor Smeat]

Some gamers have already started a boycott and canceling pre-orders of the game due to how EA have separated the DLC based on what was done or not done for the pre-order.

The issue revolves around the Back to Karkand DLC pack which might appears to have been split up into 3 tiers with no pre-order people having to purchase the DLC but only getting the maps, the regular edition only getting the maps for free, while the limited edition gets the maps along with special guns and stuff.

EA is refusing to offer the same DLC once the game is available and will actually lock out the special stuff from the DLC to everyone else but gave no reason why.

The rage stems from the Back to Karkand expansion pack, which will have to be purchased separately by those who choose to buy the game without reserving it. Unfortunately, even if you buy the DLC post-launch, you won't get the extra guns and ammo that come with the "Physical Warfare" pre-order version of the game, meaning you'll be paying out for less content and are essentially "punished" for wanting to commit to a game before it's released.

Electronic Arts attempted a similar scheme with Battlefield: Bad Company. Sarcastic Gamer organized a boycott of the game and it actually succeeded, so it's funny to see EA attempt to sneak the same bullshit under our noses again.

http://www.destructoid.com/angry-gamers-boycotting-battlefield-3-over-dlc-plans-203656.phtml

[CSL]

unless I'm missing something, people that pre-order get the maps and the 'special' weapons/ammo, those that don't have to buy the DLC separately only they don't get the guns/ammo. Which means that guns/ammo are strictly a bonus for those pre-ordering. Which I don't see why any mong would have a problem with.

[CSL]

unless I'm missing something here like I said

[Emperor Smeat]

I think it has to do with normally that special stuff ends up being for sale in a DLC or would have a special multi-player list to keep the matches balanced. Those weapons will not be unlockable in any way in the game or for purchase.

EA is basically saying if you don't pay more for the special edition, don't expect any balanced games since the bonus weapons and stuff are supposedly pretty powerful.

[CSL]

ahh so they come with a (presumably more expensive) special edition and not just pre-orders? Still not much to complain about but that's t'internet for ya

[Ermaximus]

As far as I know, anyone who pre-orders the game gets the limited edition for the $59.99 price. They did the same thing with BC2, so I don't see what the fuss is about. These people just sound like giant crybaby cunts. Fuck em.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

As far as I know, anyone who pre-orders the game gets the limited edition for the $59.99 price. They did the same thing with BC2, so I don't see what the fuss is about. These people just sound like giant crybaby cunts. Fuck em.

No. The concern is that (at least in the UK), you can only get some weapons by pre-ordering from those overpriced Game wankers and from nowhere else.

[Ermaximus]

Still a silly reason to boycott a game IMO.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

I don't think anything is a "bad" reason to boycott any game. If you don't agree with the business practices of a company, you shouldn't support that company.

Whining about it to anyone who will listen is pretty stupid though.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

They've just made their PC games exclusive to "Origin" or some bullshit. Pretty much confirmed I won't be buying it as they'll only guarantee that you can re-download it for 1 year and have god-awful prices.

[Kalyx triaD]

XB360

[#BROKEN Hasney]

I'm not paying more for an inferior version. That would be silly.

[Kalyx triaD]

My silly-ass will be squading with some top gunners. Good luck on your end.

[The Destroyer]

The Physical Warfare pack will be available for everyone as DLC eventually, DICE have announced.

Wonder if that'll please all the people complaining about it.

[Ermaximus]

The Physical Warfare pack will be available for everyone as DLC eventually, DICE have announced.

Wonder if that'll please all the people complaining about it.

You'd think so, but I'm sure they'll just find something new to piss and moan about instead.

I could care less about weapons and such as I just want to have a new online game to enjoy.

[Kalyx triaD]

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I think we'll be fine on consoles, Hasney.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Yeah, it's more to do with with a game I was only half interested in due to the amazing tech being shafted by shitty digital distribution deals.

The PC version is hitting retail still though, so I may just get that one and not deal with the shit this Origin brings.

[Kalyx triaD]

Why buy a game you're only half interested in? Can't you rent?

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Well no, I can't rent PC games.

But I'm obviously waiting on the open beta. I just want to like it because it looks awesome, but if my FPS playing recently is any indication, I'll get very bored of it sooner or later. But VEHICLES and PRETTINESS.

I bought Bad Company 2 in a sale. Should force myself to play it.

[Kalyx triaD]

BC2 is fun. GET A SQUAD.

[Ermaximus]

Hasney, there is ALWAYS room for you in my squad in BC3. I'll kick Sephiroth out. He bitches too much anyways.

[The Jayman]

Hasney, there is ALWAYS room for you in my squad in BC3. I'll kick Sephiroth out. He bitches too much anyways.

just leave me out why don't you :mad:

[Ermaximus]

You can join too. I've never played BF with you so I had no idea if you played or not. The only person I've played BF with on here is Kalyx.

We have some fun stories from it too.

[The Jayman]

I'm just messin with you. I played BC2 and loved it but most of the people I play with never really played it. I haven't decided if I am going to get this one yet since I am getting Elder Scrolls 5, MW3, WWE 12

[Ermaximus]

I'm just messin with you. I played BC2 and loved it but most of the people I play with never really played it. I haven't decided if I am going to get this one yet since I am getting Elder Scrolls 5, MW3, WWE 12

:foc: CoD.

[The Jayman]

Don't hate on CoD because you suck at it

[#BROKEN Hasney]

We talking PC squad here Ermax, or am I the black sheep once again?

[Ermaximus]

I'd prefer you to play on the 360 with us, but it's really your call.

Jayman, yes I suck at CoD, but I'd rather be good at real shooters like TF2, BFBC2, and GoW anyways.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

I've only got it on PC. Couldn't really argue with it being £5.

[The Jayman]

I'd prefer you to play on the 360 with us, but it's really your call.

Jayman, yes I suck at CoD, but I'd rather be good at real shooters like TF2, BFBC2, and GoW anyways.

:lol:

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Has The Jayman taken a course on being wrong? Because he seems to have excelled on it in the past couple of days :shifty:

[The Jayman]

I'm never wrong :shifty:

[Kalyx triaD]

I don't suck at CoD but I hate it.

[Kalyx triaD]

Why would anyone expect that console would look the same as PC? If that was the case we would have failed with the PC version.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

As much venom as I have for EA, you gotta love DICE

The Battlefield 3 presentation at EA's E3 2011 press conference kicked off with a soldier admiring his toy dinosaur keepsake. Most of you, myself included, probably didn't read much more into this moment than "Oh hey, look! A dinosaur!"

There's more to it than that, though. A while back, a thread on 4chan was started by someone claiming to work for Activision. Their post asked for feedback on Modern Warfare, and the replies proceeded to talk all about the startling lack of dinosaurs in those games. Hey, it's true!

I know what you're thinking, and nope, this isn't a coincidence. Check out this tweet (https://twitter.com/#!/gustavhalling/status/78029240041345026) by DICE gameplay designer Gustav Halling. Incredible.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

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[RoXer]

Yeah I forgot to post that

[Kalyx triaD]

They probably love Dino Crisis.

[RoXer]

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[Kalyx triaD]

Battlefield 3 will run 60fps on PC, 30fps on consoles.

Comparatively, Modern Warfare 3 will run 60fps on both PC and console.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Yeah, they've gone for graphical prettiness over the FPS.

It's not a huge issue though. I mean, Wind Waker runs at 30fps and that looks fantastic.

[Kalyx triaD]

Yeah but... yeah, I guess.

[Kalyx triaD]

On the flip side it'll look more cinematic in motion.

[Extreme Angle]

That old guy...

[Emperor Smeat]

Some info that will either be interesting or a bit useless depending on level of interest.

According to a vague tweet by one of the lead designers for the game, the Xbox 360 is going to have an "awesome" feature related to the lighting and rendering effects that won't be done on the PS3.

repi Johan Andersson
@obiadekanobi we have a special lighting solution on Xbox 360 as well that we haven't talked about yet, it's also pretty awesome
http://www.thegx.co/news/1394/battlefield-3-xbox-360-to-have-a-awesome-feature/


No special animations for entering or exiting vehicles for multiplayer unlike in Halo games or in Battlefield single/co-op campaigns. The reason given was the team didn't want to waste time making new animations and they wanted the game to play like a regular Battlefield game.
http://www.battlefield3gamer.com/apps/blog/entries/show/7456888-confirmed-no-enter-exit-vehicle-animations


DICE reveals that the Xbox 360 version will end up being the preferred version of the game on consoles as it is getting a few special stuff to go along with being the lead platform for development.
http://www.examiner.com/fps-in-national/dice-favoring-xbox-on-consoles-after-cursing-out-ps3-fans

[Kalyx triaD]

I agree that extra vehicle mounting animations are useless, I don't mind the teleport.

I don't think Dice should have outright said the PS3 version was inferior before launch.

[Emperor Smeat]

Some info both new and somewhat known on the game was released during a podcast involving the community manager from DICE:

* Destruction is going to be limited like in previous Battlefield games and not what people were hoping or assuming to be similar to Red Faction style due to the new engine. Walls and ceilings will still collapse but nothing big that would drastically change the map.

* Everything has a counter or at least was hinted to have a counter after some fears of the Physical Warfare pack being unbalanced compared to everything else.

* The plan is for a lot of post-DLC and support for the game although nothing was revealed of what exactly is being planned for now.

* Sniper rifles will create reflections if someone starts camping too long in a spot or area.

* A lot of customization is possible but is based on weapons currently equipped while skin/character customization will be limited.

* DICE is working hard on making the game run well on older PCs so that only graphics take a hit and not gameplay or other features useable on consoles or high-end PCs.

http://multi.systemlink.me/2011/07/new-battlefield-3-information-limited.html

[G]

* Sniper rifles will create reflections if someone starts camping too long in a spot or area.

I really like this. I did my fair share of it in BC2, but hopefully this minimizes the amount of snipers per team. It was like 4 out of 5 in BC2. :-\

[Kalyx triaD]

It won't stop recon whores, I promise.

[Kalyx triaD]

Here at DICE, we’re very proud of the team play functionality that we have become known and loved for in the Battlefield series, and we’re continuing to embrace that approach for Battlefield 3, but not without a few upgrades for the new game. In Battlefield 3, we’re making sure each of the four playable classes (Assault, Engineer, Support and Recon) are each completely capable of holding their own in combat. While they each have different specialties, each class is a force to be reckoned with on the battlefield.

If you’re that kind of lone wolf player who simply wants to jump in and cook some fools, that’s perfectly fine – we’re making sure each class in Battlefield 3 packs a mean punch on their own, giving you another chance to play it your way. However, we’re also hard at work fine-tuning each class and their unique team play capabilities, so squads in Battlefield 3 will be able to function tightly, giving even more reasons to team play than ever before.

As mentioned, the four classes available in Battlefield 3 are Assault, Engineer, Support and Recon. All classes include familiar elements, but this time around, we’re tweaking things a bit, bringing something new to our online multiplayer. Our Assault class is still the frontline run and gun class, and considering the havoc and fallen team members someone will see while on the frontlines, the Assault soldier now has medic abilities. That’s right, all the abilities such as medkits and defibrillators typically found on the Medic class are now incorporated into Assault. It makes sense that the class on the frontline will be able to revive fallen team mates, right? Right! Remember, you can play it your way, so if you want to customize your Assault soldier more towards medic abilities or towards serious gunplay, it’s totally up to you.

Engineers are returning in Battlefield 3, bringing back the class in charge of making repairs to the various vehicles on the battlefield. On the other hand, the Engineer is very adept at taking down vehicles as well – this class includes RPGs that can take down armored targets that can’t be destroyed by bullets alone, or even building facades that enemy combatants may be using to take cover. Add the fact that an Engineer’s arsenal includes Carbine weapons, you get an extremely versatile multiplayer class that can truly move like a butterfly and sting like a bee.

The Support class makes its return in Battlefield 3, incorporating the ability to use light machine guns and can lay down heavy fire, allowing him to become a serious mobile weapons platform. “Support has always been about heavy infantry firepower from his LMG,” says Alan Kertz, Senior Multiplayer Designer at DICE. “It’s a role that we’ve wanted to feel different than Assault’s running and gunning.”

This brings us to two new features in Battlefield 3: Bipods and Suppressive Fire. Bipods have a very practical use, especially for LMGs, as they provide a substantial increase in stability while laying down a base of fire. Bipods can be deployed anywhere by zooming in with your LMG when prone, or when standing/kneeling in front of suitable supports, such as a window sill. The stability created by deploying a Bipod gives players a massive boost in accuracy and recoil reduction. You’ll be able to unload an entire clip of 200 bullets from your LMG with great accuracy without even letting go of the trigger, all thanks to the Bipod.

Suppressive Fire is a new in-game mechanic that changes how you can play the game. When you lay down fire in close vicinity to an enemy, the incoming barrage will show up as a graphical blur effect on his screen to stress him and let him know it’s not safe to pop out from behind cover. Just as importantly, this mechanic also affects his character’s in-game firing accuracy, making him less of a threat by using real world tactics. Better yet? You get team play experience points for doing so!

“Supported shooting with Bipods and Suppressive Fire finally allows us to achieve an obvious difference between Assault and Support, since the heavy LMGs are not terribly mobile,” explains Kertz. “When deployed with a Bipod, they become an incredibly powerful force. Suppressive Fire forces the enemy to keep their head down and lets the Support gunner pin his enemies in place so teammates can flank.”

Love him or hate him, Recon is the long range sniper class for Battlefield 3 who excels at gathering intel while on the battlefield. His sniper scope gives this class a distinct view of the battlefield, making Recon particularly suited for spotting enemies as seen in Battlefield: Bad Company 2, ensuring your entire team can see the locations of spotted members of the opposing team. “Recon traditionally has been seen as just a sniper,” Kertz said. “We wanted to change that perception, so we’ve built several completely new teamplay oriented gadgets specifically for the Recon class so he can be a team player, even if he’s sitting on the top of Wookie Mountain.” We’ll talk more about these toys and how they work in a blog post a bit further down the road.

Even though each soldier has a default loadout, they’re there for you to completely customize, making sure you’re able to cater to your own unique style so you can play it your way. We’ll be able to talk more about unlocks, persistence and customization later in the Battleblog series, so stay tuned for more on Battlefield 3 soon!

I fucking love Dice. I fucking love this game series. Just head and shoulders above other 'military shooters'.

[Mooияakeя™]

Will purchase a new GFX card at the start of October. CANNOT FUCKING WAIT.

[RoXer]

http://i.imgur.com/9pYLJ.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/9pYLJ.jpg)

[Mooияakeя™]

Recon looks mean as tbf. SAS stylee.

[The Destroyer]

The Support icon doesn't really make sense given that Assault now has the medkits and defibs. Oh well, I like the sound of the classes anyway.

[Blitz]

Battlefield 2: Bad Company is the one before this right? May pick it up to get a feel for the series.

[Calamondin]

The Support icon doesn't really make sense given that Assault now has the medkits and defibs. Oh well, I like the sound of the classes anyway.

He also has trauma shears sticking out of his belt. Which is something a medic would have. I wonder if they mixed up assault and support.

[G]

Battlefield 2: Bad Company is the one before this right? May pick it up to get a feel for the series.

Battlefield Bad Company 2


same difference

[Tommy Gunn]

I've only got one Battlefield game, which is Bad Company. As soon as I get the plat trophy I might skip Bad Company 2 and go straight to BF3.

[Mooияakeя™]

Battlefield 2: Bad Company is the one before this right? May pick it up to get a feel for the series.

In release terms yes, but BC is meant to be a different feel to pure Battlefield Games. BF2 is the one before this. If you're a PC gamer, it's dirt cheap, it's still awesome. Getting a good pilot in a plane and going bombing is my latest fad considering I'm an inf man.

[Fignuts]

Battlefield 2 is still my fav military shooter, yeah

[Kalyx triaD]

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[#BROKEN Hasney]

Well if you want to get some last games in of BF2 on console, you best hurry. Servers are going down from August 11.

[Kalyx triaD]

My birthday is the doom of PC gamers. haha

[#BROKEN Hasney]

My birthday is the doom of PC gamers. haha

How so?

[Kalyx triaD]

August 11th is my birthday and I'm just cracking on the cut-off date. It is not the actual doom of PC gamers.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

August 11th is my birthday and I'm just cracking on the cut-off date. It is not the actual doom of PC gamers.

Oh, it's just that PC gamers will be playing just fine due to that old dedicated server thing, it's console players that will have doom or something.

[Kalyx triaD]

Console gamers will get over it.

[Extreme Angle]

PC gamers don't have too...

[#BROKEN Hasney]

There is something weird about PC gamers sometimes though. Like I jumped on Deus Ex to play the single player last month and I remembered that the multiplayer being mocked for just bring bolted on as a patch and a bit shit. So I jumped on to see what was happening and there were several games going. Mental.

[Kalyx triaD]

Vocal PC gamers are so pretentious. But in recent times they had legit things to bitch about.

[Mooияakeя™]

So I never played MoH yet I brought it based on the fact of a BF beta. What was the deal? Did you just get a code inside it?

PC this is.

[Emperor Smeat]

DICE wants to include as many of the environmental events that occur in the single player to also be possible in the multiplayer with earthquakes being a top priority.

"We're still looking into ambient destruction in multi-player; it's still too early to say really," he told the mag.

"It's technically possible to have earthquakes in multi-player using Frostbite 2. We feel like kids walking into sweet shops with Frostbite - it has so many features we never knew we needed, and we're still figuring out how best to use them.

They also revealed that the decision to combine the Medic and Assault classes was done to limit medics camping at spawn areas and to have them more available in the fighting so they gave them assault-like capabilities.

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/311955/news/battlefield-3-we-can-do-earthquakes-in-multiplayer/

[RoXer]

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[Blitz]

I bought Bad Company 2. I suck at it.

[Kalyx triaD]

Well stop it.

[Blitz]

I will.

[RoXer]

Too many snipers still?

[Fignuts]

Never had a problem with snipers in that game.

[Fignuts]

Probably because I spent most of my time as a gunner in tanks though.

[Blitz]

Too many snipers still?
Kinda seems like. Dunno. Maps all feel mad huge and I never encounter any enemies. Played a squad deathmatch and got like 2 kills I think because I couldn't find anyone. So I started playing Rush I think, where you destroy/defend the stations and it all feels just massive.

Doesn't seem like there's much reason to play anything other than Recon class.

[RP]

So who all are getting this on 360?

[RoXer]

Me
Requiem
Blitz
Fignuts
Alvarado
Kalyx
Ermaximus probly

[RoXer]

everyone whos posted in here really

[RP]

Cause this is coming out on my birthday and I'll be on vacation and I say we do it up hard.

[Fignuts]

My 360 should be up and running by then so I'll definitely be getting it for that.

Still kind of skeptical of playing this on console. When I had BF2 on PC I not only played 64 player battles, but I downloaded a mod that bumped it up to 120.

When playing the Bad Company games, I encountered the same misgivings as blitz. Maps were just too big for 32 player battles. Same deal with Frontline.

I don't know why we can't have more than 32 players on consoles. MAG has proven it's possible to have up to 256 players, and that's been out over a year now, so I don't know what the deal is.

[The Destroyer]

I'll be getting it on the 360, but I'll be on holiday so it'll be a couple of weeks later than everyone else.

[Emperor Smeat]

My 360 should be up and running by then so I'll definitely be getting it for that.

Still kind of skeptical of playing this on console. When I had BF2 on PC I not only played 64 player battles, but I downloaded a mod that bumped it up to 120.

When playing the Bad Company games, I encountered the same misgivings as blitz. Maps were just too big for 32 player battles. Same deal with Frontline.

I don't know why we can't have more than 32 players on consoles. MAG has proven it's possible to have up to 256 players, and that's been out over a year now, so I don't know what the deal is.

Didn't MAG use a trick where the battles were only 16v16 but the server could hold up to 256 people per match and your actions affected the other matches going on at the same time.

[Fignuts]

nope. put you in squads and gave you objectives but you could see all the other players on the map and even leave your squad to go fight with them if you wished.

[RoXer]

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[G]

did you try playing that

[RoXer]

yeah it was working

now its not

[Requiem]

Ok well now I'm kind of disappointed. First time this game has disappointed me in previews.

They said the console player limit will be 24. :|

12 on 12.. that is terrible. The PC version will be 32 vs 32.

I assumed they would make the console limit 32. Those 8 people make a difference, IMO. They are also scaling down the maps for the console versions. But this takes a lot away from the game IMO. 32 vs 32 is a completely different experience than 12 vs 12. =\

[Requiem]

On the PC version you can play with up to 64 people in multiplayer on full-size maps. On PS3 and Xbox 360, the number of players has been cut to just 24 and the maps reduced in size accordingly.

The reason for the difference is one of compromise based on the limitations of the console hardware. DICE wanted to give everyone the same experience, so were unwilling to compromise on how the game looked and the gameplay on offer. That meant something else had to be sacrificed and player numbers seemed like the best option.

[Fignuts]

lol 24 player battlefield. What a fucking joke. Dunno how they'll even have jets or copters on maps made for 24 players.

[Kalyx triaD]

That's how it's been, and it was fine.

[Requiem]

Yes, but those other games weren't designed for 64 player battles. They were designed for 24 players (ala BC2, which didn't feel that 'massive' to me)

[Requiem]

There is just such a huge difference between 32 vs 32 and 12 vs 12.

[Kalyx triaD]

More than likely the console versions will be adjusted for the player size. The concept of Rush mode itself took into account the smaller than PC player size, by limiting how much map was used. The Conquest variations in BC2 were similarly limited, putting more emphasis on depth than scale.

Bad Company 2 was still very good.

If the PC version of B3 is the superior version, fine, PC gamers deserve a bone given recent trends. What I'll get with the console is still fine by me. It's still an enhanced Battlefield sequel, with my buds as my squad mates. 64plyr battles would be badass as fuck, but 24 is still a damn good number relative to most console shooters.

[Fignuts]

First of all, Bad Company is not traditional Battlefield. Secondly, even in those games, no, it wasn't fine. Maps were still too big for the player count.

[Emperor Smeat]

DICE already confirmed in a past report the maps are going to be adjusted for console players and not be an exact copy from the PC version. I think it was confirmed the same time they announced the player differences and people were concerned about the console maps being too big.

They realized they made a mistake with Bad Company 2 and the last Medal of Honor game where they didn't optimize the maps for smaller console matches which ended up being a big problem especially with the Medal of Honor reboot.

[Requiem]

I would buy the PC version, but my PC sucks. Way ridiculous recommended specs.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

I would buy the PC version, but my PC sucks. Way ridiculous recommended specs.

They're not that bad. I know it says "quad core CPU", but the minimum Core2Duo will smoke that game if you have a decent GFX card.

[The Destroyer]

I hear the Alpha test version won't run very well on a PC like mine. :(

Doubt the real game would manage to run much better.

[Requiem]

have a 2.6Ghz dual core, and an 8800GS

Not the worst setup, but ugh.. I know I can probably RUN the game, but it will look like shit and that kills half the reason for getting it on PC.

[LoDownM]

Got into the Alpha testing for this, no way my computer is going to run it tho so I won't be playing.

[Blitz]

Way better at BC2 now. Ready to squad up.

[Kalyx triaD]

I seen you playing. Good shit. I'll add that to the rotation.

[Mooияakeя™]

It'll be worth a PC for it. Just get it. BC2 is no real BF. And whoever invented the massive Heavy Metal for BC2 needs a kick in the balls. Cannot believe the amount of servers that have that. It's too big for 16v16 Nevermind the 24 man servers out there with it on.

[Fignuts]

Yeah, I'll probably just go with COD 3. Been wanting to get a desktop PC for a while now, so I'll probably just save my money to get one that can run BF 3 fairly well. By the time I do, there will likely be a lot of user generated maps already out, so it will work out great.

[Joe Kerr]

I'm getting this for 360 as well. Was originally going to get mw3 until I saw how they are ass raping there fans. Besides battlefield pre orders are 10 times better.

[Joe Kerr]

open. Beta in September a week after those who got moh

[Requiem]

way to post a bunch of shitty miniature pictures raddcock

[Requiem]

get it? miniature raddcock

[Joe Kerr]

Quite difficult to post large pics from a phone. You got my cock on your mind I bet your faggoty ass wants it on your chin.

[Requiem]

hey now, don't get mad at me because its 4 years later and all anyone remembers about you is that you showed a dude a picture of your cock :rofl:

[Joe Kerr]

:rofl:Right rdd post a pic and you add a "a" to it. wow big insult. Im not mad bro I see your still using someone insult from 4 years ago all because I owned you and you couldn't come up with your own material. I actually feel bad that I make you have homo erotic thoughts. I come in talking about the greatness of battlefield and all you got is cock coming out the mouth.:wtf:

[Requiem]

lol? You totally owned me by calling me a faggot 'bro'. Your insult is totally creative and original so I see your point. Can't believe you're still foaming at the mouth over this raddcock thing. Good to know you've gotten over it after so long. :lol:

And all this because of a one liner I made because you're too stupid to post pictures. :roll:

[Requiem]

Years later and you're still trying to deny raddcock.jpg ever happened

[Requiem]

Roxer even had to drop Joey from his name because you disgraced it so much.

[Joe Kerr]

I wasn't referring to the comment 10 minutes ago I'm referring to several years back. I think your confused like I said I could careless about you stealing another mans insult, the fact that its allllll you can come up with me makes me laugh. Sorry if you got the impression that your one liner got to me..not sure where you came up with that. But pat yourself on the back if it helps.

[Requiem]

Another man's insults? You mean all of TPWW, of which I was a part of when the event transpired.

You can downplay it all you want, but you showed a dude your cock.

[Requiem]

This is like if SuperSlim came back and started acting like one person made fun of him for being a pedo, and made the whole thing up.

[Joe Kerr]

Keep patting you deserve it:roll:

[Joe Kerr]

Ironically you also never put 2 and 2 together that me and rdd were in a flame war and then he post a pic. Really? Think about it. I'll make this easy and just block you. Problem solved I win.

[Joe Kerr]

Now then back to the soon to be game of the year....have they released footage of back to karkland with frostbite 2 technology yet?

[Requiem]

Ironically, ironic is one of the most improperly used words on the internet.

[Kalyx triaD]

Cease this dumb shit.

[Joe Kerr]

I blocked him so my part is done. I wish I could get those pics bigger off my phone. Especially the one that shows battlefields magazine with bullets and mw3 without. That's the little detail that will help make this game of the year.

[Mooияakeя™]

I haven't looked, but did they mention if ribbons were coming back and badges? ala BF2?

[Requiem]

Cease this dumb shit.

Ironically.....

[Emperor Smeat]

EA announces retail copies of the PC version will be limited only to the Origin service regardless of what the preferred digital PC service a customer normally uses.

At the moment, EA did not mention if they will extend the requirement to digital copies or require Origin to be enabled alongside with the digital provider the game was purchased from. If the recent feud with Steam is any indication, most likely EA will either force Origin to be running along with other providers or demand any in-game content is purchased only from the EA store.

http://screwattack.com/blogs/ScrewAttack-News/Retail-copies-of-Battlefield-3s-PC-version-will-require-Origin-support

[RoXer]

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[Mooияakeя™]

Just being playing Dragon Valley on BF2. My god that game still owns pretty much all FPS' out now. It may not be the most aesthetically pleasing (ffs it is 6 years old), but it's godlike.

[Requiem]

That video is incredible. Ugh, I hate that they couldn't pull off such large-scale warfare on consoles. Times like these when the consoles really show their age.

[Emperor Smeat]

EA released a 4-page document on just the multiplayer stuff for Battlefield 3 with the biggest thing being a list of all the guns in the game.

EA sent out a four page Battlefield 3 multiplayer fact sheet, which has a list of all the weapons, weapon accessories, solider equipment, solider specializations, vehicles and vehicle specializations. The fact sheet also says there will be 9 multiplayer maps. The only two revealed right now are Caspian Border and Operation Métro.


http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/8/84401/1863213-fact_sheet1.jpg
http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/8/84401/1863212-fact_sheet2.jpg
http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/8/84401/1863217-fact_sheet3.jpg
http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/8/84401/1863215-fact_sheet4.jpg

http://www.giantbomb.com/battlefield-3/61-27006/the-bf3-multiplayer-fact-sheets/35-510735/

[Requiem]

Wow

[Kalyx triaD]

Shit.

[Extreme Angle]

Need New PC Now

[Emperor Smeat]

Console versions will be getting an in-game server browser designed to make searching for matches easier instead of just relying on ranked or matchmaker for servers on XBL and PSN.

EA confirmed that Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 users will now also be able to take advantage of the server browser feature, allowing players more freedom to choose and change settings, modes, where they play, and what maps they play.

http://screwattack.com/blogs/ScrewAttack-News/Battlefield-3-gets-server-browser-for-consoles

[Emperor Smeat]

Looks like EA won the war of words against Activision and even the digital service feud with Valve during Gamerscom.

Activision is willing to make a truce and end the verbal war after public interest from both Gamerscom and pre-orders have Battlefield 3 with the huge advantage. They also were upset at how reps from EA literally said they hoped Call of Duty crashed and died off while saying Battlefield is the next series to dominate the FPS market.

Valve is willing to accept 100% blame from the EA-Valve feud and willing to allow EA have almost everything they demanded just so that Battlefield 3 ends up on Steam. As of now EA only wants Origin to be the main service for the game and already have other digital services accepting their demands.

http://screwattack.com/blogs/ScrewAttack-News/Activision-calls-for-ceasefire-with-EA
http://screwattack.com/blogs/ScrewAttack-News/Valve-wants-to-be-EAs-friend-1


Battlefield 3 also rumored to be on mulitple discs for the Xbox 360 version of the game although DICE was unwilling to state if it would be split with a disc for multiplayer and a disc for single/everything else.
http://www.xg247.co.uk/news/08/battlefield-3-to-be-on-multiple-discs-on-xbox-360/

[Emperor Smeat]

DICE revealed a little more info this time concerning just the guns with the big news being sniper rifles no longer have 1-hit kills for non-head areas, a few more guns are available than was shown on the 4-page fact sheet at Gamescom, and weapon recoil is based on the gun picked by the player.

In terms of weapon customization:
Kertz also talked about weapon customization. Weapon optics were a point of interest for many fans. When asked about the recently announced enhanced night vision, Kertz stated, “the ENV is a weapon optic. It only turns on when you zoom in. There is no always on ENV. It cannot be disabled in zoom either.” In regards to side arms, Kertz said there will be “no pistol customization, but a wide variety will be available.” Kertz was also asked if all weapons could have suppressors attached to them. He answered, “not shotguns, pretty much everything else. Some are more effective than others.” He also mentioned the flashlight attachment. “Shadows play a big role, and flashlights make a big difference.”

http://mp1st.com/2011/08/22/bf3-no-one-hit-body-kills-with-snipers-more-weapon-recoil-and-more-dice-talks-guns/

[Emperor Smeat]

A bunch of news and info with some of it being news and others from last weekend's PAX expo.

Once again DICE explains the lack of 60fps on console versions for multiplayer was due to the team refusing to scale back or make changes from the PC version besides player numbers and potentially map sizes.
http://www.examiner.com/video-game-in-national/battlefield-3-dice-further-explains-why-console-version-runs-at-30fps


DICE also finally confirms there will be less destructible environments than in Bad Company 2 and previous games using this feature.
”When we see these things, [we think] okay, we have to add some covers that actually are not destructible.”

In recent trailers and interviews, it’s been revealed that there won’t be as many completely destructible buildings like there were in Bad Company 2, however, destruction will still play a large role. Though you won’t be able to drop buildings on enemy’s heads in BF3, you will still be able to kill them with falling debris from destroyed walls or structures. Alan Kertz, senior gameplay designer at DICE, shed some more light on this subject when asked whether the player who caused the debris gets credit for the kill or not. He simply replied, “credit is given where credit is due.”
http://mp1st.com/2011/09/05/less-destructible-environments-in-battlefield-3-dice-explains/


Based on stuff from the beta, as of now the game has a new voice chat system in place and heavy machine guns can not be mounted during multiplayer. As of now, tanks have the ability to heal themselves although it is possible this feature will be taken out once the beta is done.
http://mp1st.com/2011/09/05/bf3-new-voice-chat-system-and-no-more-mounted-hmgs/
http://kotaku.com/5837327/battlefield-3-has-magical-tanks

[alvarado52]

I was never a fan of a sniper one hit kill unless it was a head shot. I always hoped one of the two heavy hitters (BF/CoD) would incorporate a realistic animation for getting shot in a limb though.

Just always thought it would be sweet to take a shot in the shoulder and have your character 'snap back', or it the ground temporarily from a leg shot. The again, i always wanted a quick 180 turn, and that doesnt seem to be possible in miltary shooters.

[The Destroyer]

Shame, I liked collapsing buildings on people.

[Kalyx triaD]

Yeah downing a whole building was fun. Seems odd that after enhancing the engine they scale back destruction, but perhaps it's for the overall experience.

[Requiem]

http://i.imgur.com/zLn2x.jpg

[Emperor Smeat]

Some Battlefield 3 news mostly concerning the beta coming soon.

The open beta will be occurring very soon after the login page for the beta was posted but not activated for now as DICE finishes up preparing the beta tools.

The bad news is in order to play the beta, you must have last year's Medal of Honor disc inside the system because the beta is using that both as a checker to make sure a person belongs in the beta and because some of the stuff the beta is using comes from the Medal of Honor multiplayer part of the disc (ex. servers, etc).
http://mp1st.com/2011/09/14/medal-of-honor-disc-required-to-play-bf3-beta-early-squad-info/

Similar to Activision's Call of Duty series, there will be no demo of the game available after the beta ends and most likely none at all even well after the launch of the game.

Jets were confirmed to not be in Rush mode for the beta after people asked about the vesicles that will be available.
http://mp1st.com/2011/09/13/no-jets-in-rush-dice-putting-beta-concerns-to-rest/

[Emperor Smeat]

New Battlefield 3 details with PS3 owners getting early DLC content, achievement list leaked for the Xbox 360 version, and DICE "lashes" out against complaints on the game.

Open Beta for PSN users will occur on September 29 and last till October 10 with PS3 users getting early access to the Back to Karkand DLC pack a week before Xbox 360 users.

The Battlefield 3: Back to Karkand expansion pack features four maps from Battlefield 2 that have been "boldly reimagined in the Frostbite 2 engine." You'll also see new weapons, vehicles, in-game dog tags, persistence and Trophies.
http://www.screwattack.com/news/battlefield-3-gets-unexpected-exclusive


The Achievement list for the Xbox 360 version was leaked online although the person who did it decided to take a picture of each achievement instead of just the list.
http://www.se7ensins.com/forums/topic/580910-battlefield-3-achievement-list-leaked
Actual picture of each achievement (even the secret ones): http://imgur.com/a/LCHD1#hPzZp


Finally, forum moderators on the Battlefield 3 forums "lashed" out at beta users complaining the maps and stuff promised for the beta were actually different with the biggest complaint being the map in the beta is not a 64-player map people had assumed and instead the smaller "Operation Metro" map (32 players max for beta).

In response, one of the mods for the forum decided to both mock people and remind them the beta is a privileged and not a right unless they paid for it.

http://thesilentchief.com/2011/09/22/dice-lashes-out-angry-battlefield-3-fans/

[Kalyx triaD]

So in about ten minutes I'm gonna be playing the 360 version of the open beta.

Impressions soon. Questions will be answered. Reload this because updates may be frequent.

[Kalyx triaD]

Activated Battlelog. Browsing it. Gonna head into my first game.

[Kalyx triaD]

Only Rush mode and the map Operation Metro available.

[Kalyx triaD]

What a surprise, connection issues with EA's servers.

[Kalyx triaD]

Choppy like BC2's beta. Advanced reality icons are kinda loud.

[LoDownM]

EA are liar's. Email says I can download the early access beta now, but there's nothing for me to download on PSN.

[Kalyx triaD]

Good gameplay. Choppy. Great visuals. Lots of information on screen. Bipod is great. Going prone works well with the new engine. Strange animation loops when people die (pre-release crap, I'm sure). People still don't care for doing objectives.

The class adjustments, right now, seem aimless. It's how the primary guns are now. Having more freedom seems weird to me. Flashlights and lasers in your eye are shockingly effective.

Spotting people needs a larger red dot, can barely see it. Need audio clips to announce giving orders for objectives and asking for kit assists (health, ammo).

There aren't any vehicles for this map, which makes for a strange showcase for a game like this. You'd thing they want people to mess with vehicles.

The map is really cool, lots of options to approach, the the actual objective placements make things difficult (especially in the tunnel).

This is way too strategic and involving to outsell MoW3. This is for a certain audience.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

The PC version has the same map, BUT they have 2 64 player servers with the tanks/jets match from the trailer

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/m8S_eEv_A5k" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Only problem is it's password protected, but they have already released the password officially once and will probably do a few times during the beta.

[D Mac]

Got the beta. Pretty good. Will take some getting used to.

[The Destroyer]

I've had an e-mail but about it, but the site won't let me log in. :(

[Kalyx triaD]

Fuck the site, you should be able to play anyway. The beta's open now. In the XBL demo section.

[The Destroyer]

Oh yeah, duh.

Painfully slow download. :(

[Requiem]

Wasn't that slow for me. Just finished it and it took about 10-15 minutes.

However, they're having problems with the 360 servers so you can't even play right now anyways.

[Kalyx triaD]

Had no problems yesterday, I guess the flood of players is straining it.

[Buzzkill]

Just played this for like 15 mins and got bored and quit. Seems exactly like BC2. I dunno.

[The Destroyer]

Yeah, 360 servers are definitely not working. Pity.