Cena turning Heel?

[Snowden]

Source: The Wrestling Observer Newsletter

The possibility of turning John Cena heel has been discussed much more seriously than in the past, according to sources.

Vince McMahon made it clear when the idea was previously broached that it would not even be considered due to the tremendous amount of revenue Cena draws via merchandise. While there doesn’t appear to be any firm plan in place, McMahon has since changed his tune on the subject as he is now open to listening to suggestions.

Meanwhile, accoring to another source, there is ‘strong talk’ of a turning Cena heel come WrestleMania season.

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So...would this work out? Way I see it, they're positioning Randy Orton as the top face now, giving way for Cena to pursue a heel turn. Does this mean he may join Nexus? Does this mean that Cena may turn heel and face 'Taker at Mania?

Cena's pretty much run his course with his feuds, and he's not likely to drop down and, say, feud with Jack Swagger or Alberto del Rio (which wouldn't do much, considering it would be unlikely that the heel would go over).

With him turning heel, he can...well...feud with a lot of guys that he's feuded with when they were heels. Randy Orton, HHH, Big Show...or maybe he'll drop down and mix it up with a Kofi Kingston or a Daniel Bryan?

More I think about it, the more I feel like the WWE's lacking a strong upper card face presence. Can Cena be the guy who can elevate some of these younger guys to that level? I don't know so...

Lots to think about gents, discuss.

[James Steele]

It will be very easy to turn Cena heel. He is hated by everyone over 16 with a penis (generally) and everybody else are very easy to manipulate (kids). Have him lose and snap on the fans in a scathing promo or have him "sell his soul" to win ala SCSA at WrestleMania X7.

[Snowden]

Yeah, I agree with you that the turn really won't be a bitch, nor the month or two afterwards. I just feel like a prolonged Cena heel turn would be bumpier in the long run than a lot of people give it credit for.

[James Steele]

Yeah, I agree with you that the turn really won't be a bitch, nor the month or two afterwards. I just feel like a prolonged Cena heel turn would be bumpier in the long run than a lot of people give it credit for.

Thats why you hire "writers" who actually fucking know and understand wrestling and don't script their promos word for word.

[Jeritron]

If they're going to turn Cena heel in the forseeable future it would have made a lot of sense to keep the title off of Orton for now, so he could chase a heel Cena for it.
Not sure where Orton goes now. His popularity was/is gaining huge steam, but I feel keeping the fans hungry and having him chase a hated heel for that belt over a long period of time would have been the wisest choice.
Cena will probably stay face and Orton will probably just keep the belt for a long time

[Jeritron]

I could see them doing a face/face Cena vs Orton main event at Wrestlemania and completely duplicating the build and finish from Wrestlemania 17.
I don't even think it would be bad at all, even if it's a complete rehash.

[VSG]

Wrestlemania is pretty far off, so if they are planning for a heel turn around that time then Orton keeping the belt and Cena dismantling Nexus are very much a possibility.

[Jeritron]

Nexus will be over sooner than later I think. Hopefully Barrett wins somehow at Hell in a Cell and it lasts til Survivor Series.
This will allow them to use Cena to sell some Nexus shirts without turning heel. I still wouldn't put the expiration date of Nexus any later than SS though.

[D Mac]

Hope this happens.

[Lock Jaw]

They'll probably just go the predictable route and have him turn heel because he "liked" his time in Nexus.

[Papa Schlongo]

He loses to Barrett and joins the Nexus. He tries everything to get out over time from trying to set up stable mates against each other to just being plainly uncooperative. After a while, he does the thing he said he would never do. Gives up. He becomes the Nexus's main event killer. They go around taking out people they pose as a immediate main event threat(reliving old times while barrett coaxes Cena to enjoy it), and Barrett becomes the New World Heavyweight Champion from a MAJOR ASSIST from Cena. The question would then be....did he do that because he wanted to...or because they made him do it.

Week or two go by to let the unthinkable marinate. Cena then returns when Barrett demands he comes to the ring to talk about the glory Cena felt when he assisted his leader Barrett to become world champion. Cena comes out to new music...heel music. But the crowd erupts anyway because Cena comes out with a hoodie with Cenation on it. They think he is back...however...he absolutely lays waste to Barrett, and just takes the belt. Nexus is shocked to see Cena take off the hoodie...to sport a new Cenation shirt...but the N in nation IS A NEXUS N!!!!! He says that wanted to dismantle the nexus...but after weeks of thinking about it....he thinks a management change is what all that was needed. He cites his accomplishments and gives the nexus an ultimatum...continue to kick barrett's ASS or get out of his sight!!!!

They kick Barrett's ass and high fives Cena. Cena declares himself the new world champion...and actually holds the title ransom. Just to seal the deal....Cena is backstage and someone like Kofi Kingston or Chavo Guerrero walks up and says that they are proud to watch Cena take all that crap from Nexus, for him to rise up and take over the group....they try to shake Cena hand...which ends up in a major beat down by Cena himself!!!! He immediately walks back out to the ring dragging the guys he just beat the crap out of and cuts the single most disrespecting promo on the crowd and the other wrestlers in the back, that takes you back to the Dudleys in Heatwave 95.. ALSO HE WILL NEVER FIGHT FAIR....

HE ENDS UNDERTAKER;S STREAK AT WM BY CHEATING... some ole school shit like throwing salt in the eyes..I MEAN COME ON!!!! THAT OUGHT'LL DO IT.

[Sepholio]

That definitely ought'll do it.

[Papa Schlongo]

He will change Nexus to support his ego....it will be called....CENEXUS!!!!! THAT's FUCKIN GOLD MAN THE SCHLONG HAS SPOKEN!!!!!!

They will only recruit members very rarely..very rarely....to keep the karma wheel slow. NWO Meets Four Horsemen.

[Londoner]

Vince should keep denying it as it would make the heel turn more surprising, but atleast there's some hope now.

[Droford]

Have him be Austin at WM X7 vs Taker and just have him repeatedly smash Taker with a chair to get the win..

[Papa Schlongo]

Have him be Austin at WM X7 vs Taker and just have him repeatedly smash Taker with a chair to get the win..

Naw...because it would make Cena look weak in the long run. A high spot and bump match, with cena doing some sneaky shit to get the win....sending the undertaker off on an unforgettable note.

I would never forget that.

[chrisat928]

And more people will cheer a Cena heel turn than boo him now.

[Troelar]

I could most certainly see Cena joining Nexus simply for the WWE to sell more t-shirts!

Only problem I see with Cena going full heel, and Orton being the top face is that Orton doesn't wear two sweatbands on either arm. He needs more gear that can be sold!

Also couldn't we just have Cena try to beat Taker by cheating at WM, without it actually working? I thought Taker only wanted to lose his streak to someone who really needed to get over - I doubt Cena really needs to get over.

[RiX1024]

Love it if he joins Nexus and turns heel by saying he played the crowd and was behind the whole thing. and yes we will cheer a heel Cena.

[Londoner]

I could most certainly see Cena joining Nexus simply for the WWE to sell more t-shirts!

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So that's why he's considering it now.....

[4 knuckles up]

That definitely ought'll do it.

Could I have your outght'llgraph? :lol:

[Cool King]

Could I have your outght'llgraph? :lol:

http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/5663/coleug.png

[Shadrick]

I would post my opinion guyz but i have to go fix mah oughtomobile

[RatedGSuperstar]

Give him Jericho's super-serious, suit-wearing gimmick now that he's out (and swap the jean shorts for wrestling tights), and play up his company man image. Have him say he's always done what's best for the business, and Randy Orton is bad for business (going around kicking people in the skull, being totally unpredictable, being a bad role model). You could even take a risk by mentioning the piss poor TV ratings, and that it's obvious that him playing to the fans is doing nothing for the company, so he's ditching the fans and he doesn't care about making them happy anymore.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Nexus will be over sooner than later I think. Hopefully Barrett wins somehow at Hell in a Cell and it lasts til Survivor Series.
This will allow them to use Cena to sell some Nexus shirts without turning heel. I still wouldn't put the expiration date of Nexus any later than SS though.

http://www.wrestlingsuperstars.info/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Bragging-Rights-2010.jpg

Considering the style of that poster, and also considering that I saw what I believe to have been an erroneous promo meant to instead hype WWE Hell In A Cell, which instead was a promo for WWE Bragging Rights, which aired last Thursday during Superstars, I'd say it's likely they'll have Cena lose and join 'NeXus' and stay face by vowing to take them all down from the inside or something.

[Snowden]

Speaking of Nexus advertising post HIAC, they ran an add in the Philly area for shows in November, with their main selling point being the Nexus coming into town. Take that for what you will.

[Volare]

Hey Damninator, where did you find that *Spoiler*?

[Cool King]

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/3145/cenexus.png

[Volare]

That actually looks bad ass.

[Xero]

Cena looks good in black. He should stop wearing Skittles clothes and go Vintage.

[The Pope]

Seven guys who wrestle like rookies. :shifty:

[Xero]

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/3145/cenexus.png

They're going to blow harder than they already do if Cena joins, that's for sure.

[whiteyford]

I never got why they didnt try a heel turn like Brets anti US run, play up the chorus of boo's he gets everytime he's on screen and how he's fed up with destroying his body for people who dont appreciate his sacrifices yadda yadda, so he's only gonna go out there for the Cenation. Turns heel on everyone who boos him and still plays face for the tweens.

[glanville6]

Give him Jericho's super-serious, suit-wearing gimmick now that he's out (and swap the jean shorts for wrestling tights), and play up his company man image. Have him say he's always done what's best for the business, and Randy Orton is bad for business (going around kicking people in the skull, being totally unpredictable, being a bad role model). You could even take a risk by mentioning the piss poor TV ratings, and that it's obvious that him playing to the fans is doing nothing for the company, so he's ditching the fans and he doesn't care about making them happy anymore.

The part about Orton is great. Orton's taken people out for months at a time, Cena's missed months at a time. Cena doesn't want to get injured again, and a crusade against Orton sounds good.

[glanville6]

As well as the Orton being a bad role model for kids...good stuff. Orton has tattoos, has cheated to win, punts people in the head.

Totally against the things Cena has done and then he is upset Orton was becoming more popular even though Cena has been a better role model for kids makes this better.

[BollywoodSingh]

I think it would be pretty interesting if Cena turns heel, but business wise, it just doesn't make sense. If I was running WWE, I definitely wouldn't turn him as the live crowds booing him have had no effect on business or his drawing ability. Turning him heel might be too much of a risk to business.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Hey Damninator, where did you find that *Spoiler*?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=WWE+Bragging+Rights+2010+poster

[teamXtremist]

it would be amazing for cena to tell the fans to fck off and go full bad guy it may even make me like him a little

[XL]

And more people will cheer a Cena heel turn than boo him now.
Yep. That'd be my fear. If he goes "badass" the fans will get behind him again. He needs to becomea corporate kiss ass or something. I'd have said go the suit/wrestling attire way but we've already seen it with Jericho.

[nelioneil]

Would you prefer a slow heel turn buiild up (ala Punk) , acting as a tweener or sudden heel turns like in the Attitude era (like Owen Hart joining the nation)

[The Naitch]

funny, once he turns heel, the over 16 crowd will start cheering him. The women and kids will be sad though

[XL]

"Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't".

[Sycophant]

funny, once he turns heel, the over 16 crowd will start cheering him. The women and kids will be sad though

I think the kids will boo, but I honestly think the women will still cheer for him. They are just waiting for him to take off his shirt. I mean, look at The Rock. Everyone cheered him...even when he was a total heel.

[Damian Rey]

funny, once he turns heel, the over 16 crowd will start cheering him. The women and kids will be sad though

If he can make it work, I think, initially, the majority of the crowd will boo him. It took Orton about a year to get his current persona to be cheered. If Cena were to turn heel, I'd imagine it'd take about as long.

I do hope that, with this talk of VKM being more open to the idea, and my hopes of a Cena/Orton Mania match, that they do it the right way, and let the turn progress and happen naturally, rather than rushing into it and not having any build.

If Cena is to turn heel, it could be one of the biggest turns in the last decade. Something of that magnitude needs to be carefully handled and plotted well. I won't hold my breath.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Cena should lose to Barrett at Hell in a Cell. It would put over Barrett, the Nexus, and create a gripping storyline for Cena to be a part of. He wouldn't be a heel -- but he'll need to join Nexus. They can have him look sad after he does something for Nexus, and all that -- so we know that Cena is still good, but he's been caught in this trap. They need to stress that Cena HAS to do what he is doing, though. Something about the contract saying he needs to do what Barrett says or orphan children die -- you know, that sort of thing.

Cena has to wear Nexus clothes, and he has to wrestle who Barrett tells him to. The GM can take part by saying that out of integrity to the stipulation, he is going to make sure that Cena does seem like a functional part of Nexus. The storyline then becomes "How will Cena escape from the big N (not Nintendo)?" One possibility is to have Darren Young cost Cena the match. Cena was the guy who beat Young, which led to him being kicked out of the group -- and Cena just walked to the back as Young got his ass handed to them by the group. Young's reasons for wanting back in? He doesn't get the opportunities by himself, and he has something to prove. He also just couldn't resist a chance to screw Cena over.

He can try subterfuge, and pleading to some of the Nexus members that there are different ways to go about things, etc. They can show some of the members starting to listen to Cena. Johnny Boy can try and drive a wedge between Barrett and David Otunga, for example. But yeah, at Bragging Rights, Barrett captains a Nexus team of six against a RAW team of six and a SmackDown! team of six -- perhaps Nexus can even win, since there is less dysfunction on their side than their obviously will be on RAW and SmackDown!.

Eventually, Cena can succeed in splitting Nexus down the middle. Barrett and Otunga will probably be the figureheads on opposite sides. Sticking with Barrett would probably be Justin Gabriel and Darren Young. On Otunga's side would be Heath Slater, Michael Tarver and perhaps Skip Sheffield. Otunga's team is fuelled by ego, whereas Barrett's group is sticking to the original ideology of Nexus. Cena has succeeded in his goal (somewhat), but Barrett reminds Cena that he is chained to him, and he is forced to make up that open slot on the Barrett team: Wade Barrett, John Cena, Justin Gabriel & Darren Young vs. David Otunga, Heath Slater, Skip Sheffield & Michael Tarver. The Barrett/Cena union wins out, and perhaps Barrett & Cena can even have a run as WWE Tag Team Champions?

This all builds to Cena getting another shot at freedom -- and he wins it. But then comes his actual heel turn. After following Cena on this wrought emotional journey, where we were positioned to cheer him, even though he was doing these things we could not get behind -- him spitting that all back in our faces would be a rather effective and shocking way to turn him heel, in my opinion.

[dronepool]

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/3145/cenexus.png

That will fix the bad Nexus merch sales.

[Aguakate]

...I don't see him becoming a FULL FLEDGED HEEL, at least not NOW...

...WWE will probably do with Cena what they did with HBK when he was forced to join JBL...have Cena be "forced" to unwillingly join NeXus, until somehow he comes up with another stipulation and then is able to leave NeXus and finish 'em.

Who knows?

[Innovator]

The Nexus shirts should be green. Aptly defines the group.