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The Show Off
10-11-2010, 11:48 PM
For my 4000th post I figured I'd give you guys my list of the top 100 wrestling stables of all time, so here it is...

1. The Four Horsemen
2. New World Order
3. D-Generation X
4. The Corporation
5. The Hart Foundation
6. The Ministry of Darkness
7. New World Order Wolfpac
8. New World Order Hollywood
9. Corporate Ministry
10. Raven’s Nest
11. Raven’s Flock
12. Evolution
13. The Fabulous Freebirds
14. The Dudleys
15. The Dungeon of Doom
16. The Alliance
17. Triple Threat
18. The New Blood
19. The Network
20. Nation of Domination
21. McMahon-Helmsley Faction
22. Planet Jarrett
23. The Dangerous Alliance (WCW)
24. The Main Event Mafia
25. Latin American Xchange
26. Millionaire’s Club
27. The Million Dollar Corporation
28. Blue World Order
29. The Alliance to End Hulkamania
30. The Heenan Family
31. Filthy Animals
32. Team Canada (TNA)
33. Generation Next
34. Team WWF (ECW)
35. Varsity Club
36. Natural Born Thrillers
37. The Radicalz
38. The Rottweilers
39. Revolution
40. The Impact Players
41. Nexus
42. Legacy
43. Age of the Fall
44. The Angle Alliance
45. Demolition
46. The Dangerous Alliance (ECW)
47. Camp Cornette
48. Christian’s Coalition
49. Straight Edge Society
50. Sports Entertainment Xtreme
51. World Elite
52. Team Canada (WCW)
53. Sweet ‘n’ Sour Inc.
54. Second City Saints
55. The Skyscrapers
56. The Spirit Squad
57. York Foundation
58. Jersey Triad
59. Misfits in Action
60. The Magnificent Seven
61. The Legion of Doom
62. Fourtune
63. La Familia
64. Disciples of Apocalypse
65. 3 Live Kru
66. The Cabinet
67. The Brood
68. The Beautiful People
69. The Front Line
70. ECW Originals
71. Mean Street Posse
72. First Family
73. The Embassy
74. Full Blooded Italians (ECW)
75. House of Humperdink
76. The Wild Samoans
77. Triple X
78. The Gathering
79. No Remorse Corps
80. EV 2.0
81. Los Boricuas
82. King Booker’s Court
83. Kings of Wrestling (TNA)
84. JOB Squad
85. The New Breed
86. National Wrestling Alliance (WWF)
87. Kai En Tai
88. Latino World Order
89. Suicide Blondes
90. Team Angle
91. The Prophecy
92. Right to Censor
93. The Oddities
94. Team Extreme (WWE)
95. West Texas Rednecks
96. The Truth Commission
97. X-Factor
98. Un-Americans
99. Unholy Alliance
100. The New Brood

Savio
10-11-2010, 11:52 PM
Spirit Squad over Team Angle? :/

The Show Off
10-11-2010, 11:56 PM
Spirit Squad over Team Angle? :/

Team Angle was around for barely over 3 months as opposed to Spirit Squad who were together for 6 months or so in WWE and even longer in OVW. And Spirit Squad were more of a true stable as opposed to Team Angle which was basically Angle and then WGTT being somewhat of an after thought... It's just an opinion though, but that's why one was ranked over the other

Lock Jaw
10-12-2010, 12:09 AM
I am shocked and appalled at the low ranking of the Latino World Order.

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/1876/lwo8ox.png

LWO 4 LIFE

What Would Kevin Do?
10-12-2010, 12:41 AM
Out of curiosity, why are the Un-Americans so low? Just lack of time being around?

Furious Beardsley
10-12-2010, 12:45 AM
The J.O.B. Squad should be number 1 by far

THIS LIST IS FLAWED!!!

The Show Off
10-12-2010, 12:51 AM
Out of curiosity, why are the Un-Americans so low? Just lack of time being around?

Pretty much. It also had to do that they were bad rehash of the Hart Foundation. Obviously many teams above them EV 2.0, Fourtune, Evolution, ect. are rehash gimmicks but those teams were (and are in some cases) more entertaining than the UnAmericans.

I also think it saying something when Christian was at his worst when he was and UnAmerican it was the only point in his career in which he didn't cut a decent promo.

Just to recap why they're so low....

Lack of longevity

Rehash gimmick

Doing the impossible (making Christian promos bad)

DLVH84
10-12-2010, 12:55 AM
What about these stables...

The Dangerous Alliance (AWA)
Team Canada (FMW)
Lethal Weapon
Heisei Ishingun
Dragon Bombers
Fuyuki-Gun
Team No Respect
Revolution (AJPW)
Revolution (WAR)
Shin-Fuyuki-Gun
Diamond Exchange (AWA)
Diamond Mine (WCW)
New World Order Japan
Fighting Club G-EGGS
CHAOS
Great Bash Heel
Roughly Obsess & Destroy
The Varsity Club
Calgary Hurricanes
The Blond Outlaws
Voodoo Murders
Control Terrorism Unit
Pirates Gundan
Swing-Lows
The Road Warriors (Hawk, Animal, and Power Warrior)
Bad Ass Translate Trading
Funk Masters Of Wrestling
Complete Players
ZEN

The Show Off
10-12-2010, 01:11 AM
What about these stables...

The Dangerous Alliance (AWA)
Team Canada (FMW)
Lethal Weapon
Heisei Ishingun
Dragon Bombers
Fuyuki-Gun
Team No Respect
Revolution
Shin-Fuyuki-Gun
Diamond Exchange (AWA)
Diamond Mine (WCW)
New World Order Japan
Fighting Club G-EGGS
CHAOS
Great Bash Heel
Roughly Obsess & Destroy
The Varsity Club
Calgary Hurricanes
The Blond Outlaws
Voodoo Murders
Control Terrorism Unit
Pirates Gundan
Swing-Lows
The Road Warriors (Hawk, Animal, and Power Warrior)
Bad Ass Translate Trading
Funk Masters Of Wrestling
Complete Players
ZEN

Didn't know of most of them I assume a lot of them are Japanese factions and I don't watch much (if any) japanese wrestling however...

Diamond Exchange (AWA): My bad.

Diamond Mine (WCW): Don't belong

nWo Japan: Weren't familiar enough to rank them.

Varsity Club: #35

Road Warriors: I meant to put them on the list honestly don't know what happened.

dronepool
10-12-2010, 01:13 AM
Goddamn, I probably can't even name more than 10-20 stables:lol:

What Would Kevin Do?
10-12-2010, 01:34 AM
Yeah, there are some great Japanese stables, but can't really fault someone for not knowing them. Blood Generation, Muscle Outlawz, Real Hazard, and World-1 to go along with some of the ones mentioned above.

Also, who the hell actually calls RO&D "Roughly Obsess & Destroy?"

What Would Kevin Do?
10-12-2010, 01:37 AM
Anyway, I'm just happy AotF was included. In celebration, I will post this picture, because I love it.



http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa28/shimmerwrestling/rohatof3.jpg

The Show Off
10-12-2010, 01:38 AM
Yeah, there are some great Japanese stables, but can't really fault someone for not knowing them. Blood Generation, Muscle Outlawz, Real Hazard, and World-1 to go along with some of the ones mentioned above.

Also, who the hell actually calls RO&D "Roughly Obsess & Destroy?"

I only know Blood Generation, Muscle Outlawz, and Real Hazard from from random tag matches I've seen, they're all quite good, but I don't know them as stables and doing stable antics.

What Would Kevin Do?
10-12-2010, 01:42 AM
No worries. I'm not a puro elitist, so I won't hold it against you. ;)

The thing with Dragon Gate is they essentially mix up stables almost yearly. Instead of having a draft, they pretty much have stables shift once a year. Hard to know what's going on if ya don't pay attention.

The Show Off
10-12-2010, 01:43 AM
Anyway, I'm just happy AotF was included. In celebration, I will post this picture, because I love it.



http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa28/shimmerwrestling/rohatof3.jpg

Age of the Fall is one of my favorites but I prefer them with Necro and Lacey.

DLVH84
10-12-2010, 01:52 AM
No worries. I'm not a puro elitist, so I won't hold it against you. ;)

The thing with Dragon Gate is they essentially mix up stables almost yearly. Instead of having a draft, they pretty much have stables shift once a year. Hard to know what's going on if ya don't pay attention.

Yeah, Dragon Gate does mix up stables annually.

What Would Kevin Do?
10-12-2010, 01:53 AM
As did I, but that picture looks cooler then the one with Lacey. ;)

On a totally unrelated note, watching Jimmy Jacob's Youtube videos for Dragon Gate USA are sort of interesting. If he's telling the truth, apparently he was an utter dick during the AotF time frame, drug addicted, essentially homeless, and a total prick to be around. It sheds some light on his sudden ROH departure.

He's better now apparently.

MoFo
10-12-2010, 09:00 AM
Corporate Ministry is easily the worst stable of all time. It bored me off wrestling for the whole year.

Triple Naitch
10-12-2010, 09:05 AM
Not enough love for the Jersey Triad.

Loose Cannon
10-12-2010, 10:20 AM
wow, Dungeon of Doom @ 15. not going to get any grief over here because they are a personal fav of mine, but that's the lowest I've ever seen them.

Good list, Props for House of Humperdink, Legion of Doom, First Family (not sure if you knew of the original First Family), Dangerous Alliance and Varsity Club on there

there's a few more American Wrestling stables I would of added in there from the 80's.

Devestation Inc (UWF/WCCW)

Hot Stuff International (UWF)

J-Tex Corporation (big one missed. top 15 for sure. Crockett 1989. probably the best year they ever had)

Army of Darkness (Big stable in Florida. Led by Kevin Sullivan).

Stud Stable (Big stable in Continental and then WCW had thier version in 94.)

The Russians (Big stable in Crockett. 84-86 I believe. )

The Rat Pack (they were hot in Mid South wrestling in the early 80's. Dibiase, Matt Borne, Duggan, Mr Olympia.

The Machines (kind of a joke stable, but actually were over. They battled the Heenan Family in WWF.)

edyhdrawde
10-12-2010, 10:53 AM
What about the Freebirds? Since you have House of Humperdink, why not the Piper's Palace?

The Show Off
10-12-2010, 10:57 AM
What about the Freebirds? Since you have House of Humperdink, why not the Piper's Palace?

The Freebirds are number 13.

The Show Off
10-12-2010, 11:01 AM
As did I, but that picture looks cooler then the one with Lacey. ;)

On a totally unrelated note, watching Jimmy Jacob's Youtube videos for Dragon Gate USA are sort of interesting. If he's telling the truth, apparently he was an utter dick during the AotF time frame, drug addicted, essentially homeless, and a total prick to be around. It sheds some light on his sudden ROH departure.

He's better now apparently.

I didn't know that, the last I saw Jimmy Jacobs was his cage match with Tyler Black at Violent Tendencies.

Jacobs is such a talented worker. Unlike most indy guys his talent has most to do with his character development and mic skills. During Age of the Fall he easily became one of my favorite wrestlers of all time. I hope he comes back to ROH because he's such a unique indy talent. Anyone got a suggestion of any good matches of his post ROH run?

CSL
10-12-2010, 11:15 AM
Yeah, Dragon Gate does mix up stables annually.

Thanks for clearing that up. Somebody may not have believed WWKD's quite in-depth post but this goldmine of info sorts that right out.

CSL
10-12-2010, 11:18 AM
On a totally unrelated note, watching Jimmy Jacob's Youtube videos for Dragon Gate USA are sort of interesting. If he's telling the truth, apparently he was an utter dick during the AotF time frame, drug addicted, essentially homeless, and a total prick to be around. It sheds some light on his sudden ROH departure.

Explains a lot about his 'reputation' as well, more than one guy has talked about how he was a complete dick and it was during the Age of the Fall stuff that he was over here.

Anybody Thrilla
10-12-2010, 02:10 PM
I see that The Union isn't even on the list, and that's probably a good call.

Anybody Thrilla
10-12-2010, 02:11 PM
I probably would have put JBL's Cabinet somewhere in there, though.

Anybody Thrilla
10-12-2010, 02:11 PM
And The Dead Pool. :shifty:

MoonlightDrifter
10-12-2010, 03:10 PM
Good list. The only real problem is the Hart Foundation not being number one, and The Four Horsemen being so high. They\'re easily behind the NWO and arguably DX.

DLVH84
10-12-2010, 03:12 PM
Nation Of Domination (USWA)
The Gangstas (New Jack, Mustafa Saed, and D-Lo Brown)
Hotstuff International

The Jayman
10-12-2010, 03:16 PM
no mention of La Resistance? oh well

Loose Cannon
10-12-2010, 03:22 PM
it's top 100, not top 1000

The Show Off
10-12-2010, 03:53 PM
I probably would have put JBL's Cabinet somewhere in there, though.

#66

Anybody Thrilla
10-12-2010, 04:00 PM
That could have been anyone's cabinet. :shifty:

Lui Kang
10-12-2010, 04:58 PM
For my 4000th post I figured I'd give you guys my list of the top 100 wrestling stables of all time, so here it is...

1. The Four Horsemen
2. New World Order
3. D-Generation X
4. The Corporation
5. The Hart Foundation
6. The Ministry of Darkness
7. New World Order Wolfpac
8. New World Order Hollywood
9. Corporate Ministry
10. Raven’s Nest
11. Raven’s Flock
12. Evolution
13. The Fabulous Freebirds
14. The Dudleys
15. The Dungeon of Doom
16. The Alliance
17. Triple Threat
18. The New Blood
19. The Network
20. Nation of Domination
21. McMahon-Helmsley Faction
22. Planet Jarrett
23. The Dangerous Alliance (WCW)
24. The Main Event Mafia
25. Latin American Xchange
26. Millionaire’s Club
27. The Million Dollar Corporation
28. Blue World Order
29. The Alliance to End Hulkamania
30. The Heenan Family
31. Filthy Animals
32. Team Canada (TNA)
33. Generation Next
34. Team WWF (ECW)
35. Varsity Club
36. Natural Born Thrillers
37. The Radicalz
38. The Rottweilers
39. Revolution
40. The Impact Players
41. Nexus
42. Legacy
43. Age of the Fall
44. The Angle Alliance
45. Demolition
46. The Dangerous Alliance (ECW)
47. Camp Cornette
48. Christian’s Coalition
49. Straight Edge Society
50. Sports Entertainment Xtreme
51. World Elite
52. Team Canada (WCW)
53. Sweet ‘n’ Sour Inc.
54. Second City Saints
55. The Skyscrapers
56. The Spirit Squad
57. York Foundation
58. Jersey Triad
59. Misfits in Action
60. The Magnificent Seven
61. The Legion of Doom
62. Fourtune
63. La Familia
64. Disciples of Apocalypse
65. 3 Live Kru
66. The Cabinet
67. The Brood
68. The Beautiful People
69. The Front Line
70. ECW Originals
71. Mean Street Posse
72. First Family
73. The Embassy
74. Full Blooded Italians (ECW)
75. House of Humperdink
76. The Wild Samoans
77. Triple X
78. The Gathering
79. No Remorse Corps
80. EV 2.0
81. Los Boricuas
82. King Booker’s Court
83. Kings of Wrestling (TNA)
84. JOB Squad
85. The New Breed
86. National Wrestling Alliance (WWF)
87. Kai En Tai
88. Latino World Order
89. Suicide Blondes
90. Team Angle
91. The Prophecy
92. Right to Censor
93. The Oddities
94. Team Extreme (WWE)
95. West Texas Rednecks
96. The Truth Commission
97. X-Factor
98. Un-Americans
99. Unholy Alliance
100. The New Brood

While you definitely put forth a good effort in your list, some of your selections and rankings are flat out stupid.

McMahon-Helmsley faction should be ranked in your top 6 or 7...especially if Ministry of Darkness ranks in at 6. WWE ratings were at its absolute highest in history during the early and mid part of 2000. In the absence of Austin, The Rock became the #1 face of the company....and his #1 opposition was the McMahon-Helmsley Faction.

What are you basing your rankings on? HOW are you basing your rankings? If you're basing on personal prefence and subjectivity, then that's fine....just say so. Otherwise, your rankings mean absolutely nothing without objective and tangible criteria...which ultimately means that you are talking out of your ass.

Loose Cannon
10-12-2010, 05:04 PM
pretty sure it's his own personal preferance

Lui Kang
10-12-2010, 05:07 PM
Having a personal preference is fine....nothing wrong with that. I just think its retarded if it lacks some logic. That is all. Having said that, his list wasn't TOO bad. I've seen far more irresponsible posts on here.

Anybody Thrilla
10-12-2010, 05:13 PM
I don't think he was trying to get anyone to subscribe to his views. He was just sharing them. That's his 'thing'. Ask him about his Top 10 lists when you're done calling him an idiot. :y:

VSG
10-12-2010, 05:17 PM
bWo deserves to be higher.

screech
10-12-2010, 05:17 PM
Good list. The only real problem is the Hart Foundation not being number one, and The Four Horsemen being so high. They\'re easily behind the NWO and arguably DX.

Without The Horsemen, there's no nWo or DX.

Lui Kang
10-12-2010, 05:18 PM
I don't think he was trying to get anyone to subscribe to his views. He was just sharing them. That's his 'thing'. Ask him about his Top 10 lists when you're done calling him an idiot. :y:

I never called him an idiot. I actually admitted that he put forth a good effort and his rankings weren't THAT bad. I just think parts of it lacked logic. It's constructive criticism. Take it or leave it.

screech
10-12-2010, 05:18 PM
I don't think he was trying to get anyone to subscribe to his views. He was just sharing them. That's his 'thing'. Ask him about his Top 10 lists when you're done calling him an idiot. :y:

His Top 10 lists are awesome :y:

Anybody Thrilla
10-12-2010, 06:38 PM
Without The Horsemen, there's no nWo or DX.

There definitely still would have been an Evolution without the Horsemen, though. :shifty:

The Show Off
10-12-2010, 07:43 PM
While you definitely put forth a good effort in your list, some of your selections and rankings are flat out stupid.

McMahon-Helmsley faction should be ranked in your top 6 or 7...especially if Ministry of Darkness ranks in at 6. WWE ratings were at its absolute highest in history during the early and mid part of 2000. In the absence of Austin, The Rock became the #1 face of the company....and his #1 opposition was the McMahon-Helmsley Faction.

What are you basing your rankings on? HOW are you basing your rankings? If you're basing on personal prefence and subjectivity, then that's fine....just say so. Otherwise, your rankings mean absolutely nothing without objective and tangible criteria...which ultimately means that you are talking out of your ass.

I factored in WWF being highly rated during the McMahon-Helmsley Faction that's why they are ranked as highly as they were. Those shows during that time were great, but you also have to realize that McMahon-Helmsley Faction is little more than DX with Vince and Stephanie.

The Show Off
10-12-2010, 07:50 PM
Good list. The only real problem is the Hart Foundation not being number one, and The Four Horsemen being so high. They\'re easily behind the NWO and arguably DX.

Four Horsemen are a no brainer number 1. Four Horsemen were the most entertaining faction in which everyone in the faction had great mic skills when they first started not to mention all the members were great workers especially in the earliest incarnations. They also had a clearly defined goal (ie holding all the titles in the NWA and keeping the belt on Flair). All of that and they were the original and longest lasting faction of all time. The Four Horsemen were around on and off for over a decade and they are the measuring stick to which all stables are based.

I loved Hart Foundation but they can't be number one since it was just a vehicle for Bret Hart to be a heel and the rest of the guys were just thugs helping him. I'm over simplyfing their faction but you could even call The Hart Foundation "The Canadian Four Horsemen" as my grandfather nused to refer to them as.

The Show Off
10-12-2010, 07:56 PM
pretty sure it's his own personal preferance

I was trying to be objective as possible basing my rankings on longevity, impact, recognizability, and enjoyability. Obviously when making such a list my personal prefarences will obviously bleed through, especially considering one of my criteria is "enjoyability" which has to be objective.

Their was no formula that I came up with to make this list I just wanted to make a list. And the hole point of the list is to breed friendly discussion as people agree and disagree with my rankings.

The Show Off
10-12-2010, 07:58 PM
I don't think he was trying to get anyone to subscribe to his views. He was just sharing them. That's his 'thing'. Ask him about his Top 10 lists when you're done calling him an idiot. :y:

His Top 10 lists are awesome :y:

I'm actually kinda flattered I didn't know people even remember me doing those.

I was thinking of having my 4000th post be another one of those threads where I ask people to give me subjects to make top 10 lists of. Since I know people enjoy them maybe I'll start a thread like that soon... It is always a rep bonanza.

The Show Off
10-13-2010, 01:21 AM
There definitely still would have been an Evolution without the Horsemen, though. :shifty:

To be fair Evolution was slightly different gimmick. Four Horsemen was the current elite assembled as opposed to Evolution which was the past present and future of the buisness.

Anybody Thrilla
10-13-2010, 01:59 AM
I actually think Evolution might be my personal favorite, but I didn't want to have to say that.

The Show Off
10-13-2010, 11:02 AM
I actually think Evolution might be my personal favorite, but I didn't want to have to say that.

They were certainly entertaining I guess it all depends on when you really got into wrestling, or perhaps who your favorite wrestlers are.

Personally my favorite stable is probably Generation Next from ROH back when Alex Shelley was their leader because I loved Shelley, Aries and Strong. I think of Alex Shelley as one of the most under utilized talents in pro wrestling today. The guy is the goods in every aspect of the game.

Eklipse
10-13-2010, 06:22 PM
The New Blood is #18 & #100???:shifty:

The Show Off
10-13-2010, 06:26 PM
The New Blood is #18 & #100???:shifty:

The New Blood is #18

The New Brood is #100

Eklipse
10-13-2010, 06:58 PM
The New Blood is #18

The New Brood is #100

Touche....
Damn my bad eyesight!!