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jthrottle
10-13-2010, 03:48 PM
Ok so was watching this video interview with the Undertaker

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about 3:15 look for Crash Holly doing the "Styles Clash"

cant tell anything from the match as far as date......what do you guys think??
The Pope
10-13-2010, 04:13 PM
AJ has done it since he started in TNA. Maybe even in WCW, WWE probably told Crash to do it just like Billy Gunn did it a couple of times to make it seem that when people saw Styles do it that it was from WWE.
Lock Jaw
10-13-2010, 04:19 PM
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c374/alexwilco/eddie2.gif

Michelle McCool invented the move.
Vastardikai
10-13-2010, 04:25 PM
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c374/alexwilco/eddie2.gif

Michelle McCool invented the move.

wouldn't they forget, too? Considering that they aren't wearing Raybans?
Lock Jaw
10-13-2010, 04:49 PM
That's why the WWE is so inconsistent.
Jura
10-13-2010, 05:03 PM
El Dandy did it first.
FourFifty
10-13-2010, 05:03 PM
In 5 posts this thread jumped the shark 6 times.
MoFo
10-13-2010, 05:14 PM
Jerry Lynn was doing that shit way before either of them.
The Pope
10-13-2010, 05:16 PM
Jerry Lynn was doing that shit way before either of them.

Video?
Xero
10-13-2010, 05:17 PM
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Xero
10-13-2010, 05:18 PM
Here's one from WCW:

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The Pope
10-13-2010, 05:21 PM
Here's one from WCW:

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It's settled
Jura
10-13-2010, 05:23 PM
Who are all of you to doubt El Dandy?
Jura
10-13-2010, 05:24 PM
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IS HE DEAD?
Xero
10-13-2010, 05:33 PM
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The Pope
10-13-2010, 05:36 PM
When a Styles Clash is botched it's the guy receiving the move that fucks up by not putting his head back
Xero
10-13-2010, 05:37 PM
They take it like a Piledriver.

That botch was first time I ever saw the Styles Clash by AJ years ago. I thought it was a Piledriver variation and said how ridiculously dangerous it is.
Razzamajazz
10-13-2010, 05:55 PM
someone in japan probably did it first
Juan
10-13-2010, 07:04 PM
someone in japan probably did it first

This. I'll wait for Fignuts or WWKD to confirm it
DLVH84
10-13-2010, 07:19 PM
Diamond Dallas Page was the innovator of the Styles Clash. The only difference is he doesn't do the roll over to a pin.
CSL
10-13-2010, 07:24 PM
When a Styles Clash is botched it's the guy receiving the move that fucks up by not putting his head back

I have a friend that's been in hospital since November last year that will tell you differently.
Juan
10-13-2010, 07:25 PM
Bullshit. Dr. Perfect is never wrong.
Ultra Mantis
10-13-2010, 07:38 PM
When a Styles Clash is botched it's the guy receiving the move that fucks up by not putting his head back

In that specific AJ Styles video he was holding Kazarian way too low, doesn't matter which way Kazarian moved his head he would have landed hard on his neck since he didnt have the room to rotate. Totally AJ's fault there.
DLVH84
10-13-2010, 08:50 PM
In that specific AJ Styles video he was holding Kazarian way too low, doesn't matter which way Kazarian moved his head he would have landed hard on his neck since he didnt have the room to rotate. Totally AJ's fault there.

I remember watching that match on PPV back in 2003. That was a brutal botch.
Xero
10-13-2010, 08:52 PM
Holy shit, one of the 8 people who ordered the PPVs.
DLVH84
10-13-2010, 09:49 PM
Holy shit, one of the 8 people who ordered the PPVs.

From 1999 to 2003, I had free PPV.
The Heenan Family
10-13-2010, 10:06 PM
I'll say Col. DeBeers was the First user of the variation of the Clash....
DLVH84
10-13-2010, 10:07 PM
I'll say Col. DeBeers was the First user of the variation of the Clash....



I nearly forgot about him.
Gertner
10-13-2010, 11:23 PM
I was just about to say, Col DeBeers used to do it in the AWA.

I remember Outlaw Ron Bass used the Pedigree in the late 80's. Weird how wrestlers you wouldn't imagine coming up with a move doing it.
DLVH84
10-13-2010, 11:36 PM
I was just about to say, Col DeBeers used to do it in the AWA.

I remember Outlaw Ron Bass used the Pedigree in the late 80's. Weird how wrestlers you wouldn't imagine coming up with a move doing it.

Looking back at the old matches, you're right. I had to double check, just in case.
Lock Jaw
10-13-2010, 11:57 PM
I was just about to say, Col DeBeers used to do it in the AWA.

I remember Outlaw Ron Bass used the Pedigree in the late 80's. Weird how wrestlers you wouldn't imagine coming up with a move doing it.

Like Kevin Nash inventing the 450 Splash.
Supreme Olajuwon
10-14-2010, 12:50 AM
The Styles Clash doesn't even look painful. Except when it's botched. But when it's natural it doesn't look that devastating at all.
Jeritron
10-14-2010, 02:02 AM
I'm of the opinion that it's a horrible finisher. It's not even that it doesn't look devestating, which it doesn't, but it also has no impact.

A finisher like the frog splash or the FU, or Rock Bottom or even a Hogan leg drop doesn't really seem any more devestating than an average move. They have a lot of impact though. They are just big moves.
The Styles Clash is pretty lame.
Lock Jaw
10-14-2010, 02:07 AM
Dunno, I always liked the Styles Clash. Pretty unique finisher and I think it looks good. The only problem is the setup. I hate it when he telegraphs it. Much much better when he smoothly transitions into it from some other position.