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Shadrick
10-24-2010, 07:16 AM
Didnt see it posted, not even on the front page so.....yeah...its quick, and Taker says something to him....

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Xero
10-24-2010, 07:21 AM
"Wanna do it?"

Brock vs Taker: Mania 27. :shifty:

lol and McCool's with him.

Cool King
10-24-2010, 07:21 AM
Embedding isn't that hard. :y:

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Xero
10-24-2010, 07:24 AM
lol "You're one of the guys who first introduced MMA to pro wrestling."

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g122/sandman3g/Ken_Shamrock.jpg

Shadrick
10-24-2010, 07:40 AM
Embedding isn't that hard. :y:

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Thanks Cool

Slow
10-24-2010, 08:09 AM
I love the way he still called him the Undertaker, wouldn't want to break kayfabe after all...

Mr. Nerfect
10-24-2010, 08:25 AM
I'd mark out if Brock Lesnar cost The Undertaker his Buried Alive Match at Bragging Rights. :shifty:

Kane Knight
10-24-2010, 08:57 AM
I'd mark out if Brock Lesnar cost The Undertaker his Buried Alive Match at Bragging Rights. :shifty:

LOL.

JimmyMess
10-24-2010, 09:23 AM
And they say wrestling is fake...

Rammsteinmad
10-24-2010, 09:28 AM
If that had been any other wrestler they'd be future endeavored by now.

So... anyone wanna speculate what's the deal between these two?

Rammsteinmad
10-24-2010, 09:30 AM
Also, what's up with the 'Taker's left cheek?

parkmania
10-24-2010, 09:32 AM
I love the way he still called him the Undertaker, wouldn't want to break kayfabe after all...

And for people that don't watch wrestling, introducing him as Mark Callaway would mean absolutely nothing. Remember, Taker's been around long enough that he's a household name like Rock, Austin, and Hogan.

Next Big Thing
10-24-2010, 09:37 AM
If that had been any other wrestler they'd be future endeavored by now.

So... anyone wanna speculate what's the deal between these two?

I don't know, but saying "Wanna do it?" to a guy who just went a round with arguably the best heavyweight out there and got his eggs scrambled is kind of some pussy shit.

For some reason I'm thinking this is a work of some sorts. I think Taker has too much respect for fighters and what they go through to say something like that.

Rammsteinmad
10-24-2010, 09:39 AM
Yeah, I kinda thought Taker must be insane, in the wrestling ring I'm sure he's a big, scary veteran, but come on, Brock would mutilate him.

JimmyMess
10-24-2010, 09:39 AM
Also, what's up with the 'Taker's left cheek?

You mean right where Rey kicked him in the face?

Rammsteinmad
10-24-2010, 09:41 AM
lol "You're one of the guys who first introduced MMA to pro wrestling."

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g122/sandman3g/Ken_Shamrock.jpg

http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/pictures/t/threecount/12.jpg

:|

Rammsteinmad
10-24-2010, 09:42 AM
You mean right where Rey kicked him in the face?

Oh is that what it is?

His left cheek is really old wrinkly whereas his right cheek is baby smooth.

JimmyMess
10-24-2010, 09:43 AM
Oh is that what it is?

His left cheek is really old wrinkly whereas his right cheek is baby smooth.

I assume so. Rey broke 'takers face with his knee brace a while back

YoungFlyFlashy
10-24-2010, 09:58 AM
Yeah, I kinda thought Taker must be insane, in the wrestling ring I'm sure he's a big, scary veteran, but come on, Brock would mutilate him.

LMAO! At people still thinking that what they see on Monday Nights & Fridays Nights is the only thing some of these guys do. BLAH! It seems in that video proves that Brock knows how legit 'Taker is, he did just get finished with his fight yes, but damn, not one word Brock? I wonder when did the Taker punk this guy during their WWE run so bad that not one word can be uttered.

Savio
10-24-2010, 09:59 AM
If that had been any other wrestler they'd be future endeavored by now.

So... anyone wanna speculate what's the deal between these two?
The reason why Brock quit was because he was booked to lose to taker after WMXX.

He also just lost his title so he was probably pissed.

Next Big Thing
10-24-2010, 10:02 AM
LMAO! At people still thinking that what they see on Monday Nights & Fridays Nights is the only thing some of these guys do. BLAH! It seems in that video proves that Brock knows how legit 'Taker is, he did just get finished with his fight yes, but damn, not one word Brock? I wonder when did the Taker punk this guy during their WWE run so bad that not one word can be uttered.

Dude... Brock just got his head beat in! He was exhausted and probably disoriented. Come on now. Brock would destroy the Undertaker's old ass if they ever fought. Plus after getting beaten, embarrassed, and losing his title why the hell would he want to get into an exchange of words with someone from pro wrestling? Taker is merely a fan in the audience no different that anyone else.

Brock's gone toe to toe with Mir, Carwin, and Couture. You think he's scared of the Undertaker?

YoungFlyFlashy
10-24-2010, 10:04 AM
The reason why Brock quit was because he was booked to lose to taker after WMXX.

He also just lost his title so he was probably pissed.

Lesnar later told a Minnesota radio show that he had three wonderful years in WWE, but had grown unhappy and had always wanted to play pro football, adding that he did not want to be 40 years old and wondering if he could have made it in football. In an interview about starting with the NFL, Lesnar made the statement

This is no load of bull; it's no WWE stunt. I am dead serious about this... I ain't afraid of anything, and I ain't afraid of anybody. I've been an underdog in athletics since I was 5. I got zero college offers for wrestling. Now people say I can't play football, that it's a joke. I say I can. I'm as good an athlete as a lot of guys in the NFL, if not better... I've always had to fight for everything. I wasn't the best technician in amateur wrestling. But I was strong, had great conditioning, and a hard head. Nobody could break me. As long as I have that, I don't give a damn what anybody else thinks.[74]

Lesnar played for the Minnesota Vikings, where he created controversy in some games by starting minor fights and got heat from the Kansas City Chiefs for a sack on quarterback Damon Huard, which drew a big response from the crowd.[75] Huard was hit hard and had to go to the sidelines and sit out a few plays.[75] After playing in the preseason, Lesnar ended up being a late cut.[16] He declined an invitation to play as a representative of the Vikings in NFL Europa because he wanted to be closer to home with his family.[16]

YoungFlyFlashy
10-24-2010, 10:08 AM
Dude... Brock just got his head beat in! He was exhausted and probably disoriented. Come on now. Brock would destroy the Undertaker's old ass if they ever fought. Plus after getting beaten, embarrassed, and losing his title why the hell would he want to get into an exchange of words with someone from pro wrestling?

Brock's gone toe to toe with Mir, Carwin, and Couture. You think he's scared of the Undertaker?

Let someone run up on Mir, Carwin or Couture from a "non-legit" sport right after they lose a fight, and if you DARE SAY that neither three of those men would utter one word, than you're a moron.

Like 'Taker said, it's personal, SOMETHING happened between these two that clearly put 'Taker in an aggressive manner at just having the mere presence of Lesner around.

So back to the first paragraph, you truly in your heart believe that those three guys would stay hugh mouthed if a person from a "non-legit" sport stared them down like that?

YoungFlyFlashy
10-24-2010, 10:09 AM
...BTW, I am not saying Taker would or wouldn't get beat by Lesner, ANY MAN can get beat ANY DAY. But some of you folks on here need to realize that just because wrestling is looked at as a "non-legit" sport, does not mean the men in it are not legit. After all, where did Lesner come from?

Rammsteinmad
10-24-2010, 10:09 AM
LMAO! At people still thinking that what they see on Monday Nights & Fridays Nights is the only thing some of these guys do. BLAH! It seems in that video proves that Brock knows how legit 'Taker is, he did just get finished with his fight yes, but damn, not one word Brock? I wonder when did the Taker punk this guy during their WWE run so bad that not one word can be uttered.

I prefer to see it as Lesnar being mature enough to just keep walking. You're obviously one of those people who acts like 'Oh, 'Taker said something and Lesnar didn't reply because he's a coward'

I'm not disputing how tough Mark Calloway really is, and what he can do outside of the ring, but I seriously doubt Lesnar is scared of a guy like that.

YoungFlyFlashy
10-24-2010, 10:11 AM
I prefer to see it as Lesnar being mature enough to just keep walking. You're obviously one of those people who acts like 'Oh, 'Taker said something and Lesnar didn't reply because he's a coward'

I'm not disputing how tough Mark Calloway really is, and what he can do outside of the ring, but I seriously doubt Lesnar is scared of a guy like that.

Lesner mature?!?!?!? What the hell is that, you have completely just flew off this planet if you think mature and Lesner can co-exist in this world.

Rammsteinmad
10-24-2010, 10:13 AM
Oh ok sorry, Lesnar is immature because he kept walking. Maybe he should have stuck around and exchanged words. That'd be grown up of him wouldn't it?

YoungFlyFlashy
10-24-2010, 10:13 AM
I prefer to see it as Lesnar being mature enough to just keep walking. You're obviously one of those people who acts like 'Oh, 'Taker said something and Lesnar didn't reply because he's a coward'

I'm not disputing how tough Mark Calloway really is, and what he can do outside of the ring, but I seriously doubt Lesnar is scared of a guy like that.


Actually no I am not, I am one of those people that overhear idiots like you witness two men having an exchange and say bullshit like "Oh Lesner would mutilate him..." And laugh to myself and am like "Yeah on what grounds are you pulling that empty statement from, Monday Night Raw?"

Next Big Thing
10-24-2010, 10:14 AM
You are a moron if you think someone who won a national championship in wrestling, is a stout 6'4 265 pounds, in peak physical condition, trained in MMA, and has competed against some of the best fighters in history would be scared of someone who is 45 years old, has a broken body, and never done anything but pro wrestling.

YoungFlyFlashy
10-24-2010, 10:14 AM
Oh ok sorry, Lesnar is immature because he kept walking. Maybe he should have stuck around and exchanged words. That'd be grown up of him wouldn't it?

You said Lesner is mature, you make a comment like that is to include his track record, which in his case smells of immaturity.

Cool King
10-24-2010, 10:14 AM
Maybe he spoke to The Undertaker sometime and said that if he loses the Championship, he'll make a return to the WWE. :shifty:

Next Big Thing
10-24-2010, 10:16 AM
How is saying Lesnar would mutilate him bullshit? He is trained to fight for a living and Taker is 45 and beaten down you jackass. Someone properly trained beats a "tough guy" any day. See Kimbo Slice for proof.

Again, does Frank Mir come out and talk shit to every fan who boos him or says something about him? Does Tito Ortiz get into back and forth debates with a fan who yells you suck while walking down the aisle? Taker is no different. At the end of the day he was a fan who came to see Brock. I think it was a work, but even if it wasn't, why would Brock bother with someone he knows wishes could be where he is. Taker said it himself that if he could go back 20 years he would be in MMA. Why give publicity to Taker?

YoungFlyFlashy
10-24-2010, 10:16 AM
You are a moron if you think someone who won a national championship in wrestling, is a stout 6'4 265 pounds, in peak physical condition, trained in MMA, and has competed against some of the best fighters in history would be scared of someone who is 45 years old, has a broken body, and never done anything but pro wrestling.

Since when did SANCTIONED accolades make you legit tough versus being a great athlete? What is wrong with you? I never said Lesner wasn't a great athlete, he's actually clearly awesome and very accomplished! But that doesn't make Taker any less tough.

Savio
10-24-2010, 10:17 AM
YoungFlyFlashy is dumb

YoungFlyFlashy
10-24-2010, 10:17 AM
Maybe he spoke to The Undertaker sometime and said that if he loses the Championship, he'll make a return to the WWE. :shifty:

Nice!

Rammsteinmad
10-24-2010, 10:18 AM
You said Lesner is mature, you make a comment like that is to include his track record, which in his case smells of immaturity.

What Lesnar has done in the past is totally irrelevant here. I said Lesnar was mature enough to keep walking THIS TIME and not let anything escalate, but no YoungFlyFlashy has to act all 'you da dumbass person I ever saw!'.

And now YFF is gonna be all 'oh, you said', 'no I said' and here we have an online arguement over nothing. :wave:

YoungFlyFlashy
10-24-2010, 10:19 AM
How is saying Lesnar would mutilate him bullshit? He is trained to fight for a living and Taker is 45 and beaten down you jackass. Someone properly trained beats a "tough guy" any day. See Kimbo Slice for proof.

Because you have no merits to go on. Just like everyone thought the inexperienced and immature Lesner would get spanked in his HW Championship match (instead he dominated and became Champion) with no merit whatsoever, is the same thing you're doing to Taker, it is just unfair, which is all I am saying.

Rammsteinmad
10-24-2010, 10:20 AM
YoungFlyFlashy is actually Buddy Lee Parker.

Rammsteinmad
10-24-2010, 10:21 AM
Because you have no merits to go on. Just like everyone thought the inexperienced and immature Lesner would get spanked in his HW Championship match (instead he dominated and became Champion) with no merit whatsoever, is the same thing you're doing to Taker, it is just unfair, which is all I am saying.

Jesus Christ man you need to calm down. What I said isn't 100% fact, I said it briefly as part of my post. Don't take shit so personal on here.

YoungFlyFlashy
10-24-2010, 10:21 AM
YoungFlyFlashy is dumb

...and you're a loser, what's going on?

YoungFlyFlashy
10-24-2010, 10:22 AM
Jesus Christ man you need to calm down. What I said isn't 100% fact, I said it briefly as part of my post. Don't take shit so personal on here.

I am not, I am discussing a statement you made that I did not agree with, now since I am discussing a statement ON A DISCUSSION forum that I do not agree with I am taking it personal, I've noticed if someone disagrees with a statement here, and wants to discuss it, but does not take the usual "four letter" reply approach they're taking it personal...ah gotta love TPWW.

Savio
10-24-2010, 10:26 AM
...and you're a loser, what's going on?
See? he doesn't even know whats going on.

Rammsteinmad
10-24-2010, 10:26 AM
You're a dick.

Rammsteinmad
10-24-2010, 10:27 AM
Not Savior, YoungFlyFlashy I mean.

Next Big Thing
10-24-2010, 10:27 AM
Because you have no merits to go on. Just like everyone thought the inexperienced and immature Lesner would get spanked in his HW Championship match (instead he dominated and became Champion) with no merit whatsoever, is the same thing you're doing to Taker, it is just unfair, which is all I am saying.

Do you watch MMA? Lesnar lost his first fight to Mir to submission. He went back, trained, fought two outstanding guys in Heath Herring and Hall of Famer Randy Couture for the title, then he beat Mir in a rematch. That's progression.

Rammsteinmad
10-24-2010, 10:30 AM
Just because Undertaker does one or two submission holds in the ring doesn't make him a black belt in Brazilan Jiu Jitsu or something.

YoungFlyFlashy
10-24-2010, 10:31 AM
Do you watch MMA? Lesnar lost his first fight to Mir to submission. He went back, trained, fought two outstanding guys in Heath Herring and Hall of Famer Randy Couture, then he beat Mir for the title. That's progression.

He beat Mir for the title? He lost to Mir, won the belt from Couture, and redeemed himself against Mir. Now you answer if I watch MMA.

Savio
10-24-2010, 10:33 AM
He beat Mir to become undisputed champ YFF, stop being stupid.

Papa Schlongo
10-24-2010, 10:33 AM
LOL "You want to do it?" lol The Schlong says "That ought'll do it"

YoungFlyFlashy
10-24-2010, 10:34 AM
Just because Undertaker does one or two submission holds in the ring doesn't make him a black belt in Brazilan Jiu Jitsu or something.

Who said that? Who alluded to that? All I am saying, which is what I have been saying, is with no merit, it is unfair to down Taker. What is it, let's play name association

Age? George Foreman.

Wrestling? Brock Lesner.

Rammsteinmad
10-24-2010, 10:34 AM
Either he made a typo and rectified it, or you edited his quote, coz that's not what I read.

Rammsteinmad
10-24-2010, 10:35 AM
Who said that? Who alluded to that? All I am saying, which is what I have been saying, is with no merit, it is unfair to down Taker. What is it, let's play name association

Age? George Foreman.

Wrestling? Brock Lesner.

Oh stop being such a pussy.

YoungFlyFlashy
10-24-2010, 10:37 AM
He beat Mir to become undisputed champ YFF, stop being stupid.

November 15 Lesner beat Couture and became HW Champion. The rematch with Mir was July 11, which he won and where he has his melt down. UFC 116 he beat Carwin to become the undisputed champion, is that not right?

Next Big Thing
10-24-2010, 10:38 AM
Who said that? Who alluded to that? All I am saying, which is what I have been saying, is with no merit, it is unfair to down Taker. What is it, let's play name association

Age? George Foreman.

Wrestling? Brock Lesner.

Mir beat Big Nog for the interim title and Brock unified them jackass. You truly are a mark fan boy.
http://sports.espn.go.com/extra/mma/news/story?id=4321346

Then Brock got sick, Carwin and Mir fought for the interim title, which Carwin won and then Brock got his belt back. So do you watch MMA?

George Foreman was a boxer who despite his age, was still in his element as a boxer. You think because the Undertaker feigns a few boxing moves and incorporates a choke in his matches he's capable of fighting someone who trains everyday to fight?

I love the Undertaker, but don't blur the lines of fiction and reality.

YoungFlyFlashy
10-24-2010, 10:41 AM
Mir beat Big Nog for the interim title and Brock unified them jackass. You truly are a mark fan boy. George Foreman was a boxer who despite his age, was still in his element as a boxer. You think because the Undertaker feigns a few boxing moves and incorporates a choke in his matches he's capable of fighting someone who trains everyday to fight?

I love the Undertaker, but don't blur the lines of fiction and reality.

Fiction: With nothing to go on, counting someone completely out of the equation.

Reality: It will never happen given Mark's age.

So you stop blurring reality and fiction, in a legit man's man sport, anybody can go down with the right timing and move.

Rammsteinmad
10-24-2010, 10:41 AM
Mir beat Big Nog for the interim title and Brock unified them jackass. You truly are a mark fan boy.
http://sports.espn.go.com/extra/mma/news/story?id=4321346

George Foreman was a boxer who despite his age, was still in his element as a boxer. You think because the Undertaker feigns a few boxing moves and incorporates a choke in his matches he's capable of fighting someone who trains everyday to fight?

I love the Undertaker, but don't blur the lines of fiction and reality.

:y:

YoungFlyFlashy
10-24-2010, 10:43 AM
Mir beat Big Nog for the interim title and Brock unified them jackass. You truly are a mark fan boy.
http://sports.espn.go.com/extra/mma/news/story?id=4321346

Brock got sick, the title was vacated. Carwin and Mir fought for the interim title, which Carwin won and then Brock got his belt back. So do you watch MMA?

George Foreman was a boxer who despite his age, was still in his element as a boxer. You think because the Undertaker feigns a few boxing moves and incorporates a choke in his matches he's capable of fighting someone who trains everyday to fight?

I love the Undertaker, but don't blur the lines of fiction and reality.

Are you a fucking moron? Frank Mir vs Carwin, Shane Carwin defeated Frank Mir by KO in the first round, becoming the new Interim Champion.

YoungFlyFlashy
10-24-2010, 10:43 AM
:y:

One idiot post with a dumbass agreement. That's my cue:rofl:

Rammsteinmad
10-24-2010, 10:47 AM
Frank Mir was the Interim champion going into the UFC100 match with Lesnar, which Lesnar won to become undisputed champion.

Mir VS Carwin at UFC111 was for the interim championship. Have no idea who had the belt going into the match, or how they got it.

Next Big Thing is not wrong. At least know the facts before calling other people a fucking moron.

Next Big Thing
10-24-2010, 10:48 AM
Are you a fucking moron? Frank Mir vs Carwin, Shane Carwin defeated Frank Mir by KO in the first round, becoming the new Interim Champion.

http://www.mmajay.com/UFCTitles.html

Read the title history up till Brock unifying the titles by beating Mir.

Then go kill yourself.

Nicky Fives
10-24-2010, 10:54 AM
Also, what's up with the 'Taker's left cheek?

my guess is that it's from years of chewing tobacco use.....

VSG
10-24-2010, 10:57 AM
You guys killed the thread, you realize that right?

Rammsteinmad
10-24-2010, 10:58 AM
Terrible.

Krimzon7
10-24-2010, 10:58 AM
I don't care about the politics. This shit was funny.

Next Big Thing
10-24-2010, 11:00 AM
It just went into cardiac arrest for a bit. A thread isn't dead until Steve Blackman makes an appearance.

Michelle was looking pretty damn good in that clip. Lesnar and Sable vs. Taker and McCool. Book that shit.

Rammsteinmad
10-24-2010, 11:02 AM
McCool would mutilate Sable...

:lol:

erickman
10-24-2010, 11:06 AM
Maybe he spoke to The Undertaker sometime and said that if he loses the Championship, he'll make a return to the WWE. :shifty:

yeah it could have been a work rather brock won or lost, with hymen managing brock anything could hapen.

Next Big Thing
10-24-2010, 11:07 AM
McCool would mutilate Sable...

:lol:

Now we throw the necessary Layla needs to be involved into the thread in order to appease my loins, the tpww board, and the IWC and boom, this thread is alive again VSG. Although slightly brain damaged.

Savio
10-24-2010, 11:11 AM
You guys killed the thread, you realize that right?
We got YoungFlyFlashy to make an ass out of himself and quit so it was for the greater good.

Kane Knight
10-24-2010, 11:23 AM
And they say wrestling is fake...

Edge is totally going to spazz on you.

Yeah, I kinda thought Taker must be insane, in the wrestling ring I'm sure he's a big, scary veteran, but come on, Brock would mutilate him.

Remember, Taker has fancied himself a MMA fighter for some time. He's going to think he has a chance regardless.

http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/pictures/t/threecount/12.jpg

:|

MMA DIDN'T EXIST BACK THEN!

/Destor.

Oh ok sorry, Lesnar is immature because he kept walking. Maybe he should have stuck around and exchanged words. That'd be grown up of him wouldn't it?

Ignore him. He has to be taking the piss.

Rammsteinmad
10-24-2010, 11:26 AM
MMA? Huh? Dunno what you're on about? I just thought that was a great time to post a picture of Goldberg and 3 Count. :kiss:

erickman
10-24-2010, 11:36 AM
MMA? Huh? Dunno what you're on about? I just thought that was a great time to post a picture of Goldberg and 3 Count. :kiss:

i thought that was tank, i kind of liked him in wcw, he was a kick boxer was'nt he if he was younger he might have been good in mma.

Gerard
10-24-2010, 11:36 AM
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Accoridng to Dana White Lesnar has been talking about taking some extended time off. He also addresses the exchange between them.

JimmyMess
10-24-2010, 11:39 AM
Undertaker now would probably get beat up by Lesnar. But lets not forget that 'taker used to be an enforcer for a loan shark. And those guys don't exactly hire dudes that won't fuck you up.

I thought it was great. I showed my old man the video and he loved it. And he hates UFC and WWE at the same time.

Cool King
10-24-2010, 11:54 AM
Who between the ages of 8 and 48 wouldn't know who The Undertaker is?

Also, that was a pretty poor attempt at describing him.

"a very tall fellow".

Next Big Thing
10-24-2010, 12:05 PM
Call me a loser, but I too would mark out if Lesnar interfered in the Buried Alive match. After Dana's interview I really think it's a work now.

Take this for what you will since this is from a Taker fansite, but in 2008 on KFAN radio Brock said, “Big Mark Calaway, he’s a good guy. I had an opportunity to work with him a bunch and he helped me out quite a bit… Mark, the Undertaker, is a huge fan of mixed martial arts and I appreciated him being at the fight, too. That was cool.”

Source: http://www.phenomforever.com/?page_id=1513

So unless something major went down in two years (which is possible) or this quote is completely made up, I think WWE is setting something up for Wrestlemania perhaps.

Fox
10-24-2010, 12:13 PM
Taker is a fucking bad ass. Say what you want about him just being "the Dead Man, the Undertaker", but he has a reputation within the WWE and within professional wrestling for being one man that you DO NOT mess with, and for good reason. Not because he "buries people alive" or whatever the fuck - Mark Calloway will fucking kill you.

I would take Taker over Lesnar in a street fight any day of the week.

Cool vid, btw.

Aguakate
10-24-2010, 12:33 PM
Hmm...after seeing the video of Undertaker and Brock, I believe what "Cool King" said, that maybe Brock told 'Taker and some of the guys at WWE that if he lost the Title, he would take some time off from UFC and return to the WWE and do some things. I saw it as Undertaker trying to tell him "Ok, u lost the belt, you still up for it? Wanna dance a bit in the ring?", you know, basically asking him if he was still up for it, if he was good on his word.

Jordan
10-24-2010, 12:42 PM
Wow, that was awkward... Taker giving him the tough guy after the fight was ... intense

Aguakate
10-24-2010, 12:45 PM
Brock came out looking bad after that, because he didn't say anything, just stared at 'Taker like "Please don't hit me".

I wonder if they will pick this angle up:

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XL
10-24-2010, 01:14 PM
IF this is legit heat between the two of them I would put it down to Taker being pissed that he put Lesnar over huge only for him to walk away.

Gerard
10-24-2010, 01:14 PM
Seems to have been a good way to get some publicity as theres multiple links on the web talking about it. Supposodly Lesnar wants to take some time off as well, id imagine a few WWE matches would be a damn sight easier on Lesnar than the way he got his balls rolled last night.

Next Big Thing
10-24-2010, 01:17 PM
IF this is legit heat between the two of them I would put it down to Taker being pissed that he put Lesnar over huge only for him to walk away.

Taker is a huge MMA fan and it's not like this is the first Lesnar fight he's been to. If a guy like Taker had a problem, I think he'd be man enough to have addressed it then, not almost six years later after a guy lost his fight. I'm looking for a bearded man sporting a shiner to come out and F5 Taker into the grave.

Paranoid Rattlesnake
10-24-2010, 01:19 PM
Michelle McCool is hot

Rammsteinmad
10-24-2010, 01:19 PM
I don't think this is a work in any way. Is Lesnar under any kind of contract with UFC that would prevent him from appearing on WWE TV.

Plus, I kinda assumed Lesnar is making so much money from MMA that he wouldn't be interested in wrestling again anyway.

Xero
10-24-2010, 01:22 PM
I could see WWE putting in a few million to bring Lesnar in for a match with Taker at Mania.

I know it won't happen, but it would draw insanely. Aside from Cena, Lesnar is the only one who could give Taker legit competition at Mania.

Next Big Thing
10-24-2010, 01:41 PM
I don't think this is a work in any way. Is Lesnar under any kind of contract with UFC that would prevent him from appearing on WWE TV.

Plus, I kinda assumed Lesnar is making so much money from MMA that he wouldn't be interested in wrestling again anyway.

Well in the interview Dana said Brock wanted to take some time off. Plus he seemed to shrug off their confrontation and called them friends. Considering Taker has been a UFC fan for years and Brock was one of his top guys, I think he'd know if they had some kind of issue.

Also keep in mind that Brock may get the customary 1, 3, or 6 month medical suspension after this fight. If it's six he'd be out till April anyways and with an autobiography coming out, doing business with the WWE hype machine could boost profits. He could fly in, tape an appearance every Tuesday for Smackdown, and then fly back to training.

Plus at this point I don't think UFC would care if Brock did a one off deal with WWE. Brock brought so many pro wrestling fans to UFC and MMA that I don't think he'd have a problem with Brock going back to where he started.

They're kind of similar, but on two different plains of existence. WWE is WWE whereas UFC is where boxing was 10 to 15 years ago when Tyson made his appearance. Just like HBO was more concerned with whether Tyson did something for Showtime or its affiliates than if he did something with the WWF, UFC would be more concerned with whether Brock did something for Strikeforce than with WWF. Plus Rampage was a guest host and Shamrock had his stint so it's not like there isn't a precedent. It wouldn't really hurt UFC in my opinion.

BollywoodSingh
10-24-2010, 01:45 PM
Let someone run up on Mir, Carwin or Couture from a "non-legit" sport right after they lose a fight, and if you DARE SAY that neither three of those men would utter one word, than you're a moron.

Like 'Taker said, it's personal, SOMETHING happened between these two that clearly put 'Taker in an aggressive manner at just having the mere presence of Lesner around.

So back to the first paragraph, you truly in your heart believe that those three guys would stay hugh mouthed if a person from a "non-legit" sport stared them down like that?

How do you know Lesnar didn't say anything? Taker had a mic, Lesnar didn't.

Mr. Pierre
10-24-2010, 02:02 PM
Taker didn't really seem too confrontational to me lol

Brock just kinda gave him a "...wha?" look and wandered off

VSG
10-24-2010, 02:09 PM
Plus at this point I don't think UFC would care if Brock did a one off deal with WWE. Brock brought so many pro wrestling fans to UFC and MMA that I don't think he'd have a problem with Brock going back to where he started.

I will say what I did in the MMA forum- Brock will lose to Taker at Wrestlemania if it ever occurs and hence will look weak heading back to UFC. Dana is a smart man, and unless something ridiculous monetary wise happens, I don't think this will happen. Besides, Taker broke kayfabe by appearing there last night and I don't believe that it was in any way scripted.

Next Big Thing
10-24-2010, 02:14 PM
I will say what I did in the MMA forum- Brock will lose to Taker at Wrestlemania if it ever occurs and hence will look weak heading back to UFC. Dana is a smart man, and unless something ridiculous monetary wise happens, I don't think this will happen. Besides, Taker broke kayfabe by appearing there last night and I don't believe that it was in any way scripted.

Isn't that all the more reason to think it's a work? Taker is a smart veteran, not some young punk who doesn't know any better. So why would he even agree to be interviewed on camera by Ariel Helwani, arguably the most famous of all the MMA reporters, if there wasn't some type of plan for him and Brock to have some type of exchange? He was also shown on camera and acknowledged by the UFC commentators during the pay per view. Sure they probably anticipated Brock winning and talking trash, but still.

Again, Taker isn't known as the kind of guy who would huff and puff and stick his chest out. He's known for taking guys aside and talking to them one on one. If he really had a problem with Lesnar I'm sure the two of them have enough mutual acquaintances to where they could have met up, talked off camera and if necessary settled their differences like men.

Volare
10-24-2010, 02:17 PM
I kinda see this as a cheap way for WWE to be shown on UFC television.

Testicle
10-24-2010, 02:44 PM
Don't really like this as a shoot. In the 1 in a million chance its a work, I love it.

Maybe there was a day when the dead man could put up a fight against lesnar, but at 45 he would probably get stomped. Plus I don't like that he did that after Lesnar just got beat.

Fox
10-24-2010, 02:48 PM
Undertaker put over Lesnar HUGE during their feud over the WWE Championship; more so than he really has for anyone in the past, aside from Steve Austin. He made Brock look like a million dollars, even losing to him inside the cell.

Taker was among many who were upset about Lesnar's sudden desire to leave the WWE, and among the few who had the balls to actually say something about it to Lesnar. It looks to me like that beef isn't dead.

Fignuts
10-24-2010, 02:50 PM
Taker is not a household name. Come on.

Fox
10-24-2010, 02:52 PM
Taker is not a household name. Come on.

I'm willing to bet that most people know who the Undertaker is; if not exactly who he is, at least the fact that he is a famous professional wrestler for the WWE/F.

Fignuts
10-24-2010, 03:00 PM
Why would they? He's been a main eventer, and highly respected wrestler for years, within the world of pro wrestling, but he's never broken out like the rock or hogan. He's never done anything outside of pro wrestling.

Guarantee that I could talk to any of my friends, and none of them will know who he is.

Fox
10-24-2010, 03:08 PM
Because people pick things up peripherally. They've seen his t-shirts worn around, they've heard his name, they've probably seen him on Celebrity Death Match. Taker has been around as a main player in the WWE for longer than pretty much anyone; he is their franchise player, and he has been promoted as such for years and years. I mean, I have never watched a single episode of "The Price is Right", but I know who Bob Barker is.

If you were to walk into any grocery store in any part of the US and asked a stranger: "Hey, do you know who The Undertaker is?" They would probably reply: "You mean the wrestler?" More times than not, they would know that he is a famous wrestler. The name "Undertaker" is synonymous with professional wrestling, more so than someone like "Shawn Michaels," who people might assume is a lesser-known brother of Brett Michaels.

Tom Guycott
10-24-2010, 03:09 PM
Out of all of that, it is amazing that everyone speculates the same thing... Mark tryna' pick a fight (kayfabe or legit) from three little words: "Wanna do it?"


Serious first thought: Maybe 'taker talked to Brock earlier and asked if he wanted to go knock a couple back or something, and Brock gave a "Ask me later, after I win." kind of response.

Sarcastic first thought: Maybe 'taker proposed an orgy and/or wife swapping with himself, his wife, and Brock's wife. After that loss, he may have figured it would have picked Lesnar's spirts up... among other things. I mean, you can do worse than be sandwiched between 1/2 of the Diva's champion, Sable, and Sable's twins.

Fignuts
10-24-2010, 03:14 PM
God knows an appearance on celebrity deathmatch will endear you to the masses.

Fox
10-24-2010, 03:19 PM
God knows an appearance on celebrity deathmatch will endear you to the masses.

Since that's all that I said.

This entire thing is conjecture anyways. There's no way for me to prove my "point" to you, and vice versa, so let's both shut up about it, Mr. Nuts.

Tornado
10-24-2010, 03:34 PM
The WWE where supposedly "pissed" when Taker broke kayfabe with the wedding pictures, I really don't think he'd be allowed to break kayfabe again so soon.

Work.

Fignuts
10-24-2010, 03:34 PM
Sorry, it's TPWW regulation that we argue in circles for a minimum of three more pages.

Zen v.W.o.
10-24-2010, 03:36 PM
Because you have no merits to go on. Just like everyone thought the inexperienced and immature Lesner would get spanked in his HW Championship match (instead he dominated and became Champion) with no merit whatsoever, is the same thing you're doing to Taker, it is just unfair, which is all I am saying.

Yes but all he is saying is that Taker is 45 now and worn down. Maybe at 30 something he could have had a shot.

I'm sure a lot of guys in their prime could have done pretty well in a "legit" sport such as UFC. Especially those with some sort of background is shooting, wrestling, and other fighting art forms.

Tazz Dan
10-24-2010, 04:16 PM
Seriously, this thread, WFT?

Juan
10-24-2010, 04:25 PM
Lesnar's current UFC deal does not allow him to wrestle for WWE.

The Naitch
10-24-2010, 05:17 PM
Taker probably told Vince he'd try and arrange something with Brock. When he says "it's personal" he's giving neither a yes or a no answer

Tb1
10-24-2010, 05:20 PM
Since when did SANCTIONED accolades make you legit tough versus being a great athlete? What is wrong with you? I never said Lesner wasn't a great athlete, he's actually clearly awesome and very accomplished! But that doesn't make Taker any less tough.

This is awful. God. So awful. Stop this. Stop it. Ugh. What.

Ol Dirty Dastard
10-24-2010, 05:26 PM
Lol Brock Lesnar would break undertakers neck

thedamndest
10-24-2010, 05:57 PM
The interviewer's ear looks fucked up.

Emperor Smeat
10-24-2010, 06:18 PM
Disappointed at the lack of the Gong music and the lights dimming during the video since it is the Undertaker :shifty:

Volare
10-24-2010, 06:21 PM
Insert thunder on his head nod.

The Naitch
10-24-2010, 06:42 PM
Lesnar's current UFC deal does not allow him to wrestle for WWE.

source?

And who says Brock's coming back to wrestle? He could be a special guest ref/enforcer for Taker's match a la Mike Tyson. That way they both win. Taker keeps his streak going. Brock doesn't lose a "match"

I don't think it's a money thing. Brock doesn't need the money, but if he did anything in WWE, it would be all for fun first and foremost.

Kane Knight
10-24-2010, 07:08 PM
Taker is not a household name. Come on.

Adorable.

blake639raw
10-24-2010, 07:38 PM
The most I could see Brock doing is a guest enforcer or something. Even then, it would be kinda stupid for the WWE to promote the biggest star of their competition. And lol to the people who think that Taker would take Lesnar in a legit fight.

Next Big Thing
10-24-2010, 08:11 PM
WWE is in Minnesota tonight... I'm just saying. Lol.

DLVH84
10-24-2010, 08:15 PM
It would be awesome to see those two together one more time...

The Pope
10-24-2010, 09:15 PM
WWE is in Minnesota tonight... I'm just saying. Lol.

Isn't Brock from Virginia?

Juan
10-24-2010, 09:16 PM
No

The Pope
10-24-2010, 09:17 PM
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The Pope
10-24-2010, 09:19 PM
Nevermind he's from South Dakota
Brock Lesnar was born in Webster, South Dakota. He attended Webster High School in Webster, where he had a wrestling record of 33–0–0 in his senior year.[20] Lesnar admits he graduated last of 54 students in his class.[21] Lesnar later attended the University of Minnesota on a full wrestling scholarship for his junior and senior years of college; his roommate was fellow professional wrestler Shelton Benjamin who also served as Lesnar's assistant coach.[22] Lesnar won the 2000 NCAA wrestling championship as a heavyweight after placing second in 1999.

MoFo
10-24-2010, 09:19 PM
Michelle McCool is hot



Yeah

CSL
10-24-2010, 09:43 PM
Great thread.

Fignuts
10-24-2010, 09:46 PM
Adorable.

You never even leave your house, you big fat lady. How would you know anything about it.

No one I know has any idea who the undertaker is. I'm sorry if the rest of you live in towns full of wrestling marks.

Mr. C
10-24-2010, 10:15 PM
Woah.

The promos write themselves, showing Brock Lesnar batter The Undertaker in the cell, so this could be huge. If there’s any way they can do this, they should do it. Vince should bend over backwards and give Lesnar whatever he asks. So much of the audience that’s left wrestling went to UFC. It would be amazing to promote not only Lesnar for a match, but against Undertaker could get a lot of buys from people just for that match.

The Pope
10-24-2010, 10:28 PM
Dana White would never allow this.

Mr. C
10-24-2010, 10:37 PM
We'll get clarification of Lesnar's status in the coming days. He won't be able to do anything if he's under contract as the UFC's contracts prevent fighters doing wrestling.

Lara Emily
10-24-2010, 11:00 PM
...BTW, I am not saying Taker would or wouldn't get beat by Lesner, ANY MAN can get beat ANY DAY. But some of you folks on here need to realize that just because wrestling is looked at as a "non-legit" sport, does not mean the men in it are not legit. After all, where did Lesner come from?

NCAA wrestling.

Lock Jaw
10-24-2010, 11:10 PM
Too bad Lesnar didn't retain the title. Then he could have thrown the UFC Belt into a garbage can when he shows up on Raw. :shifty:

Lock Jaw
10-24-2010, 11:46 PM
Or maybe this Undertaker vs. Lesnar heat is just a work to throw us off the scent... and they will actually be TEAMING at Wrestlemania to take on Kane and Cain.

Volare
10-24-2010, 11:46 PM
Lock Jaw with another awesome idea.

Aguakate
10-24-2010, 11:52 PM
I've watched the video like 10 times, no lie. And I still don't know what to make of it, I still don't get it. It doesn't sway me one way or the other. I honestly can't tell if it's legit or not. My gut tells me it must be a work, because I just don't see Undertaker going public with a personal situation like that.

DaVe
10-25-2010, 12:36 AM
a mate showed me this today. freaking awesome moment. lesnar/taker would draw like crazy. too bad i doubt it'll happen

Shaved Monkey
10-25-2010, 02:06 AM
No one I know has any idea who the undertaker is. I'm sorry if the rest of you live in towns full of wrestling marks.

Same. They know Hogan, Rock and to a lesser degree, Austin. It actually surprised me quite a bit how few of them knew who Steve Austin was.

teamXtremist
10-25-2010, 02:10 AM
i dont know whole thing seemed awkward but youd have to think its a work setting up something down the line

James Steele
10-25-2010, 03:59 AM
Maybe he was just asking if Brock was still going to book the Pudding Match between Michelle McCool and and Eve as a "Guest Star" of RAW.

:shifty:

The MAC
10-25-2010, 04:08 AM
undertaker has the smarks marking out.

Eklipse
10-25-2010, 08:56 AM
Would they really want 'Taker to break character and do a work for something while he's allready involved in a major story line?

Next Big Thing
10-25-2010, 09:13 AM
This isn't the first time he's broken kayfabe at a UFC event or been shown and acknowledged by the UFC production staff. Plus if they wanted to get Brock involved in some type of angle and get the eyes and ears of the MMA fanbase, that was the time to do it.

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UFC 81 (Brock's first fight against Mir, where he could have confronted him if he had an issue with Brock walking out after Taker put him over)

Eklipse
10-25-2010, 09:20 AM
Good point....but I dont think they would intentionally have him break character to do a work.

I dunno...if it is a work, it's cool...but if no , I wanna know what it was all about.

Next Big Thing
10-25-2010, 09:28 AM
It's either a work or... Brock was responsible for breaking up Taker's first marriage. :naughty:

Eklipse
10-25-2010, 09:33 AM
It's either a work or... Brock was responsible for breaking up Taker's first marriage. :naughty:

I think he's been married like 4 times. lol.

Next Big Thing
10-25-2010, 09:37 AM
Ha! Whichever number Sara was, that's who Brock banged. There's your new "backstage news" on the Taker/ Brock soap opera Ryan Clark. I expect to see this on the front page in the next hour or so.

Loose Cannon
10-25-2010, 11:56 AM
Looks like the E made Lesnar an offer for one match at Mania. That would be fucking incredible, but the problem is you know who's going to win because Lesnar will be back to UFC right after. But the buildup would be pretty awesome.

DLVH84
10-25-2010, 12:50 PM
It's either a work or... Brock was responsible for breaking up Taker's first marriage. :naughty:

Actually, it was during Taker's second marriage when he feuded with Brock.

Xero
10-25-2010, 01:40 PM
Looks like the E made Lesnar an offer for one match at Mania. That would be fucking incredible, but the problem is you know who's going to win because Lesnar will be back to UFC right after. But the buildup would be pretty awesome.

Yeah, this is what I'm hearing. It was going around with the boys last night.

Innovator
10-25-2010, 01:44 PM
Brock vs. The Streak would be amazing.

Jeritron
10-25-2010, 01:45 PM
This is the first I'm hearing about any of this, but if WWE gets Lesnar to come back for one match at Wrestlemania against Taker (or anybody) they will once again prove how incredible they are every Mania season.

I honestly thought Taker/Cena was the biggest match they could concievably book. I hadn't even entertained this idea, but I also didn't think they'd get Bret back either.

MoFo
10-25-2010, 02:10 PM
Fake story, non event.

The Pope
10-25-2010, 02:11 PM
Fake story, non event.

:nono:

MoFo
10-25-2010, 02:20 PM
ok then its real and Lesnar lost his fight on purpose to further a wrestling angle for a company he isnt even employed by.

The Pope
10-25-2010, 02:24 PM
No one said it was a wrestling angle. At least not here.

MoFo
10-25-2010, 02:25 PM
everybody is talking about Lesnar v Taker at Wrestlemania

The Pope
10-25-2010, 02:28 PM
Because they want to see it and or they know that it would get a lot of PPV buys for Wrestlemania with that match alone, not because they think it's going to happen.

Lock Jaw
10-25-2010, 02:51 PM
If Brock comes back, will they have to censor his penis-sword tattoo to keep him PG?

SaskatchewanChamp
10-25-2010, 06:44 PM
Brock Will NEVER come back to the WWE, not only does it make him look like a pussy (Lost a real fight, let's go for a fake one) it also hurts his credibility with MMA fans, because like I said it makes him look like a pussy.

The Naitch
10-25-2010, 06:52 PM
I think the only way for it to look 'cool' is if they pulled the Mike Tyson/Austin/DX sort of deal all over again, this time a more modern version

I'd like to see The Undertaker vs. John Cena w/ Brock Lesnar as Special Guest Enforcer. If they can get Bret for WM26, then anything is possible and having Brock make an appearance for the road to WrestleMania 27 is not far fetched

I always liked the Brock vs. Cena angle for Backlash 2003. That program was the goods

VSG
10-25-2010, 07:29 PM
Hey look who's back!

parkmania
10-25-2010, 07:45 PM
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I know this is the legit tron, but it still doesn't seem right without Taz's "Well, here comes the pain" comment within the first 5 seconds.

St. Jimmy
10-26-2010, 05:18 PM
Dana White is too much of a girl to let Brock get one payday that Dana has no say in.

Joey Slugs
10-26-2010, 05:44 PM
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YoungFlyFlashy
10-27-2010, 01:07 PM
Man, if this was played for someone who does not keep up with MMA they would think that WWE went MMA! "Kane", "Brock Lesner"

Rammsteinmad
10-27-2010, 04:38 PM
Undertaker: Y'know?

The Naitch
10-27-2010, 04:46 PM
Taker likes to say "y'know" alot

Troelar
10-28-2010, 07:50 PM
I don't know, y'know, what you're, y'know, talking, y'know, about!