WWE's Top 50 Wrestlers of All Time (Upcoming DVD "Spoiler")

[Xero]

According to their upcoming DVD (http://www.amazon.com/WWE-Top-Superstars-All-Time/dp/B0041SI7ES/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1289661907&sr=8-1). List thanks to PWInsider:

#50 – Killer Kowalski
#49 – Batista
#48 – “Ravishing” Rick Rude
#47 – Bob Backlund
#46 – Dory Funk Jr.
#45 – Jeff Hardy
#44 – Nick Bockwinkel
#43 – Kane
#42 – Sgt. Slaughter
#41 – Jack Brisco
#40 – Big Show
#39 – Jake “The Snake” Roberts
#38 – “Superstar” Billy Graham
#37 – Junkyard Dog
#36 – Gorilla Monsoon
#35 – “Nature Boy” Buddy Rogers
#34 – Kurt Angle
#33 – Mick Foley
#32 – “Superfly” Jimmy Snuka
#31 – The Iron Sheik
#30 – Pat Patterson
#29 – Randy Orton
#28 – “Classie” Freddie Blassie
#27 – The Fabulous Moolah
#26 – “The Million Dollar Man” Ted DiBiase
#25 – Chris Jericho
#24 – Bruno Sammartino
#23 – Hulk Hogan
#22 – Terry Funk
#21 – Lou Thesz
#20 – Jerry “The King” Lawler
#19 – Edge
#18 – N/A
#17 – Dusty Rhodes/Ric Flair (Tie)
#16 – John Cena
#15 – “Mr. Perfect” Curt Hennig
#14 – “Macho Man” Randy Savage
#13 – Gorgeous George
#12 – Triple H
#11 – Eddie Guerrero
#10 – “Rowdy” Roddy Piper
#9 – Rey Mysterio
#8 – Andre The Giant
#7 – Ricky “The Dragon” Steamboat
#6 – Harley Race
#5 – The Rock
#4 – Bret “The Hitman” Hart
#3 – Stone Cold Steve Austin
#2 – The Undertaker
#1 – Shawn Michaels

[itsmeJD]

Cena at #16 my fucking ass....and Batista at #49? Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.......

[itsmeJD]

Though I think my favorite may be #18....N/A had an epic run.

[Xero]

N/A is clearly Benoit.

[itsmeJD]

LOL, so what the fuck are they gonna do on the DVD? Skip #18? or say his name reaaaalllly fast and move forward as if nothing happened?

[itsmeJD]

Though in looking I'm surprised to see Jeff Hardy's name on the list all things considered. And Ric Flair at #17 is a fucking shame...Cena > Flair? Not likely, in ANY category.

[Xero]

LOL, so what the fuck are they gonna do on the DVD? Skip #18? or say his name reaaaalllly fast and move forward as if nothing happened?

Just put up a "scene missing" sign for five minutes.

[Kapoutman]

Top 5 is pretty good at least.

[Xero]

I'm glad to see TNA guys actually making the cut, especially Angle. Obviously in a perfect world he'd be top ten easily, but just to have him on there is awesome.

[itsmeJD]

Top 5 is pretty good at least.

True. I'm surprised they didn't put Cena #1. I'm ok with the top 5. I might switch the order a little bit because I do feel Flair should have been there. I respect Undertaker and what he's done for wrestling, but to say he can tell a better story in the ring than Slick Ric is silly.

[Xero]

I also have a problem with Cena being above Hogan.

[itsmeJD]

I have a feeling James Steele is gonna be pissed when he says where Trips is placed....ouch.

[itsmeJD]

I also have a problem with Cena being above Hogan.

I agree completely. Their wrestling ability is basically tit for tat, and Hogan was the fucking wrestling God of the 80's. While Cena may be their poster boy now, he in no way compares to those on this list.

[itsmeJD]

Just put up a "scene missing" sign for five minutes.

maybe they could pixelate his face Cops style, but no one could talk about him due to the WWE Gag order, so they would just pan to wrestlers staring at the camera or looking around the room. Then onto #17.....

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>#18 isn't Benoit. Flair and Dusty tied for #17, and as such there is no 18 by default.

Think of it as in sports. If two teams are tied in 1st place, the next closest team is technically in 3rd place.

That being said, I don't know why they couldn't have just put one at 17 and one at 18 instead of making it a fucking tie.</font>

[VSG]

Hogan and Cena exchanging places makes it a good list.

[BizarroKing]

N/A should have been number 1.

Also this is what they will talk about Beniot should he actually be in it.

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[The Ravishing One]

#9 – Rey Mysterio

Really? I think he's good and worthy of this top 50 list, but not above the likes of Hogan, Flair, Triple H, Henning, Savage and Piper (plus more)

[BizarroKing]

If we need to complain about anything on this list, we need to complain about them leaving out the greatest wrestler of all time in the WWE. The only man to ever be undefeated in his WWE Career!

http://www.universalwwe.es/wp-content/braden-walker-nuevo-luchador-de-ecw.jpg

[itsmeJD]

If we need to complain about anything on this list, we need to complain about them leaving out the greatest wrestler of all time in the WWE. The only man to ever be undefeated in his WWE Career!

http://www.universalwwe.es/wp-content/braden-walker-nuevo-luchador-de-ecw.jpg

BRADEN WALKER BAW GAWD!!!!!!!!!!!

[itsmeJD]

<font color=goldenrod>#18 isn't Benoit. Flair and Dusty tied for #17, and as such there is no 18 by default.

Think of it as in sports. If two teams are tied in 1st place, the next closest team is technically in 3rd place.

That being said, I don't know why they couldn't have just put one at 17 and one at 18 instead of making it a fucking tie.</font>

While this totally makes sense, I'm at work and would prefer to sit here and think of funny ways they could include Benoit without including Benoit. Please don't ruin my fun...I'm at work on a fucking Saturday, lol.

Oh and am I the only one interested in WWE putting together a BOTTOM 50 WWE Superstars DVD? Would be fucking awesome.

[loopydate]

My roommate and I were speculating on this when they first announced that the DVD was coming out, basically trying to come out with who had the 50 best WWE careers so, obviously, we weren't thinking about guys like Thesz or Bockwinkel, since they were never "Superstars". This is the list we came up with:



Shawn Michaels
Undertaker
Steve Austin
Bret Hart
Hulk Hogan
The Rock
Triple H
John Cena
Ric Flair
Kurt Angle
Mick Foley
Andre The Giant
Chris Jericho
Roddy Piper
Randy Savage
Eddie Guerrero
Bob Backlund
Bruno Sammartino
Ultimate Warrior
Ted DiBiase
Edge
Jimmy Snuka
Iron Sheik
Tito Santana
Jake Roberts
Rey Mysterio
Owen Hart
Randy Orton
Jeff Hardy
Brock Lesnar
Mr. Perfect
Diesel
Don Muraco
Big Show
Rick Rude
Chris Benoit
Terry Funk
Batista
Ricky Steamboat
Paul Orndorff
Rob Van Dam
Dusty Rhodes
Greg Valentine
Kane
Goldberg
Razor Ramon
Pedro Morales
Davey Boy Smith
CM Punk
Booker T
Yokozuna

We put 51, since we included Benoit. It's weird that our top four is identical to their list, but everything else on their list looks like it was randomized.

[Aguakate]

...Shawn Michaels is #1, and when it comes down to it, that's all that really matters.

[Rammsteinmad]

Wow, as much as I wish the guy was dead, Hogan should be a lot higher up.

And the #17 draw, with #18 being N/A is fucking lame. Come on WWE just pick one guy to be 17 and one to be 18.

[Aguakate]

...Maybe #18 is Owen Hart, and they are trying to not add fuel to Martha's fire by not mentioning him "per se".

[SaskatchewanChamp]

Too argue this list would be moot. The top 5, for the most part is right on.

[FakeLaser]

This is a horrible list

[Dante69]

bullshit list

[The Naitch]

Hogan's gonna be pissed

[Fox]

Cena over Flair? Give me a fucking break.

[itsmeJD]

Cena over Flair? Give me a fucking break.

That's what I said. It's absurd to put Flair so low on this list. I knew it was bullshit when Botchtista was ranked #49

[Nicky Fives]

Cena above Flair is laughable, Mysterio in the Top 10 is beyond questionable, especially since Hoagn is at #23.... my money is on Hogan being top 10 if he weren't in TNA.....

[LuigiD]

Awful. Hogan should be at least in the top 10 regardless of what you think of the guy. Edge ahead of Bruno Sammartino? nothing wrong with Edge..but to imagine Edge having more influence than Bruno is offensive.

[James Steele]

List lost all credibility at #12. What is the point of fucking the boss' daughter if you are only 15 spots better than The Fabulous Moolah.

[itsmeJD]

List lost all credibility at #12. What is the point of fucking the boss' daughter if you are only 15 spots better than The Fabulous Moolah.

LOL I knew this was coming, see above. Moolah did have more title reigns....haha jk

[James Steele]

LOL I knew this was coming, see above. Moolah did have more title reigns....haha jk

That can always be corrected...PARTY LIKE ITS 2003 BITCHESSSSSSSSSSSS

[thedamndest]

There is no 18 because Flair and Rhodes tied at 17, thus making the next number 19.

[itsmeJD]

There is no 18 because Flair and Rhodes tied at 17, thus making the next number 19.

yup, was addressed above. Regardless that was a stupid way of doing it. The list is already beyond bullshit anyway, just make one 17 and one 18.

[Attitude99]

Benoit Owen Hart And Kane are missin

[CSL]

lol @ Hogan's spot. He'd be Top 3/5 if he was available for the DVD.

[Emperor Smeat]

Besides the order and ranking of a few wrestlers, the list itself is pretty good compared to other lists WWE does.

Hogan definitely deserved to be in the Top 10 for what he did for the WWE in the 1980s and early 1990s but the Top 5 was a good choice.

[The Naitch]

I think Hogan should've been higher, just because he's Hogan. I think Vince did that to piss him off.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Cena over Flair is not ridiculous. It's accurate. This is based on WWE, so all of Flair's NWA and WCW stuff is moot. Looking at WWE accolades alone, Cena is better than Flair.

[itsmeJD]

Cena over Flair is not ridiculous. It's accurate. This is based on WWE, so all of Flair's NWA and WCW stuff is moot. Looking at WWE accolades alone, Cena is better than Flair.

If that's accurate, then how in the hell do you explain Harley Race at #6? Harley's WWE career over Flair's? Just sayin...being the "King" don't top championships.

[Xero]

If this were based on WWE over other promotions, Terry Funk would not be ahead of Hogan.

[Xero]

And Gorgeous George, who never wrestled in the WWWF, is #13.

[itsmeJD]

Exactly, that's my point. It's not based on the WWE career obviously, because Dusty Rhodes wouldn't even be TIED for 17th given the other names.

[Anybody Thrilla]

If that's accurate, then how in the hell do you explain Harley Race at #6? Harley's WWE career over Flair's? Just sayin...being the "King" don't top championships.

Haku would like to have a word with you.

Honestly, just skimmed the list/thread. I guess this isn't just based on WWE, and thusly, this is a crap list. CARRY ON, GENTLEMEN.

[Anybody Thrilla]

If this were based on WWE over other promotions, Terry Funk would not be ahead of Hogan.

Chainsaw Charlie would like to have a word with you.

[thedamndest]

Everyone make your own list and watch the DVD in that order.

[itsmeJD]

Everyone make your own list and watch the DVD in that order.

.....and if they're not on the DVD?

[CSL]

Improvise.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Create them on Smackdown v. Raw 2011 and save the Highlight Reel.

[McLegend]

This list is totally accurate.

[Anybody Thrilla]

If McLegend says it, there's absolutely no reason to argue.

[itsmeJD]

No doubt, I stand corrected. I mean, look at his photo. The list is indeed the shit.

[McLegend]

I mean who doesn't think John Cena is better than Ric Flair?

I can't wait to tell my grandchildren that I got to see John Cena give the 5 knuckle to Horswaggle. They'll just love to hear that story.

[itsmeJD]

I musta missed his match with Horswaggle....Clearly this is what bumped him ahead of Flair.

[Tazz Dan]

I'm surprised that by now people are still surprised at how fucked up a "WWE Top ____" list is and are pissed off by it.

[itsmeJD]

I still say we need a DVD on the WWE's Bottom 50. Talk about some epic fucking matches.

[SaskatchewanChamp]

Top 5

1. Hogan
2. HBK
3. Steve Austin
4. Bret Hart
5. Ric Flair

[Anybody Thrilla]

Maybe you can compile a list of TPWW's bottom 50, JD. Start a thread asking people to nominate their least favorites ever, and tally up the 50 most mentioned. It could really skyrocket your TPWW career.

[Vastardikai]

Part of me is surprised that Harley is #6, as they haven't always acknowledged his unabashed awesomeness and badassery.

Then I remember, WLW is the unofficial developmental territory for WWE.

[St. Jimmy]

Love the list.

[Hanso Amore]

This is the top WWE list, right?

Flairs career in the WWE wasnt that amazing. His best work was for Jim Crockett. Think that has something to do with it?

Also, the fact that hogan is not in the top 5 is bleh.

[Hanso Amore]

Buy the 50 they have on the list is hard to debate. Lots of surprises that will be cool to see on the DVD

[itsmeJD]

This is the top WWE list, right?

Flairs career in the WWE wasnt that amazing. His best work was for Jim Crockett. Think that has something to do with it?

Also, the fact that hogan is not in the top 5 is bleh.

Mentioned this earlier, it's not based on their WWE career, it's total. Harley Race would definitely not be 6 if this were the case.

[The Naitch]

Maybe you can compile a list of TPWW's bottom 50, JD. Start a thread asking people to nominate their least favorites ever, and tally up the 50 most mentioned. It could really skyrocket your TPWW career.

It'd be harder to do a bottom 50. There'd be so much wrestlecrap to sift through, let alone trying to rank it all

[Xero]

When it comes to the term "Superstar" instead of "wrestler", my top four are easy.

1. Hogan
2. Rock
3. Austin
4. Flair

After that is when it starts to get dicey.

[Anybody Thrilla]

As much as I dislike him, Goldberg would probably be about next on that list. Talk about a reversal of fortune. :shifty:

[TazFTW86]

this list is booty!! No Taz and SHawn before Bret?

[Loose Cannon]

lol Hogan @ 23 makes this whole thing worthless

[Loose Cannon]

and nice to see Jimmy Snuka coming in @ #32 for doing basically one high spot.

did they forget Ric Flair was a wrestler until they got to 17?

I think Rey Mysterio is a misprint for Sting.

I think JYD is a misprint for Lex Luger.

I think Jeff Hardy is a misprint for Tully Blanchard.

[BizarroKing]

I think Rey Mysterio is a misprint for Sting.

Remember it says "WWE's" Top 50...Sting never competed in WWE

[Jakob Synn]

N/A is clearly Benoit.

Maybe Hogan because I'm flabbergasted he is not on the list.

[Xero]

He's #23....

[BizarroKing]

Maybe Hogan because I'm flabbergasted he is not on the list.

#23 – Hulk Hogan

[glanville6]

Hogan shouldn't be that low, no matter who he is working for.

And I have no problem with Cena being above Flair. Flair spent most of his best years away from WWE. He could have been a lot lower than where he is.

But of course, I'm going to complain since Christian isn't on the list.

[weather vane]

worst list ever

[Lock Jaw]

No idea what the hell Rey has done to deserve a top ten spot.

[Loose Cannon]

Remember it says "WWE's" Top 50...Sting never competed in WWE

and Gorgeous George, Jack Brisco, Nick Bockwinckel, Lou Thesz did? It's already been said like four times in this thread that's it's not based on wrestlers and thier WWE time.

[Juan]

No idea what the hell Rey has done to deserve a top ten spot.

Besides being one of the best cruiserweights of our time and one of the most popular and profitable faces of the current WWE era?

[The Naitch]

Lock Jaw hates Mexicans

[Lock Jaw]

Still, he has never enjoyed the kayfabe success that the others in the top 10 did.

[Lock Jaw]

Though I do hate Mexicans. :mad:

[Nark Order]

Triple H is rated above Savage. Throw the list away.

[The Naitch]

lol avatar

[Jimmy Cones]

WWE fucked up by not getting a hold of the Jimmy Cones' True Pure Average Rank a Wrestler Rankings Spreadsheet.


#1 HBK
#2 Kurt Angle
#3 Steve Austin
#4 The Rock
#5 Randy Savage
#6 Eddie Guerrero
#7 CM Punk
#8 Chris Jericho
#9 Bret Hart
#10 Undertaker

It's still ongoing, but I believe the top ten are pretty immovable. I do disagree with TPWW ranking Punk so high.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Punk could be a solid #7 in about 20 years.

[Jeritron]

I don't know how anyone can say Cena and Hogan are equals in the ring. Cena is a far better wrestler.
The rest is a whole other bag. Yes, Hogan's legacy and original run was way better, but come on.

[Jeritron]

This list also turns into another "define wrestler." Some choices make it seem like they're going by wrestling ability, while others make it seem like they're going by stardom.
Seems like they flip flopped.

Honestly, they just threw a list together. These things never really have much rhyme or reason other than who's included. The order is a crapshoot, and never consistent. So I'm good with it.

[Jeritron]

Triple H is rated above Savage. Throw the list away.

They're tied for first on Stephanie's list

[Nark Order]

They're tied for first on Stephanie's list

BAM

[Loose Cannon]

I got the Savage DVD the other day. can't wait to watch it. going to be amazing

[BollywoodSingh]

Terrible list. If it's a kayfabe list, Hogan should be in the top 2 or 3. I'm surprised Triple H is not in the top 10. They may have done that purposely so people don't say it's just because he's McMahon's son-in-law.

[James Steele]

Terrible list. If it's a kayfabe list, Hogan should be in the top 2 or 3. I'm surprised Triple H is not in the top 10. They may have done that purposely so people don't say it's just because he's McMahon's son-in-law.

Seriously, shut the fuck up. It is not 2003.

[Jeritron]

I'm sure they're real concerned about whether a few hundred bitchy smarks will cry conspiracy

[Jeritron]

Triple H's best years and main event rise (97-01) occured before he was romantically involved with Stephanie. Fact.
Maybe he had politicked along the lines, but that's what 99% of champions have done. Unless you're Mick Foley or Chris Jericho, you're probably not on top without stepping on some toes. Get over it.

[CSL]

Not to mention banging Steph probably had more chance of damaging his career than helping initally.

[James Steele]

http://www.wrestlingvalley.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/triple-h.jpg

[Jeritron]

That's true too. I feel as though I've heard that said before from other wrestlers. Not sure who it was. It may have been an anonymous interview.
Either way, I think it's overblown. He definitely has stroke, but I don't think it's as bad as some make it out to be. You'd think he was some jobber before the wedding.

[James Steele]

I think I stumbled upon the greatest picture of all time when I found that picture of Triple H feeding a joey (baby kangaroo for you uneducated folks).

[Loose Cannon]

(baby kangaroo for you uneducated folks).

LOL. you sound like Michael Cole (when he's in heel mode of course)

[AKin3D]

Just watched this DVD (well the count down not the matches). First off they say the list is done by the current roaster's (at the time) vote. Um Todd's the host, but we only see him like 6 times. Regal, Santino, Jericho, Cena and Arn Anderson do the most talking in the clips about each wrestler.

Even though this was just another clip DVD, I think it's a great video to get in the hands on the little ones, or new comers. The video talks up about every Superstar they cover. Making it clear on why that superstar is great and what they offered to wrestling. Nothing negative was said about anyone who left the company and they really held Angle up in the spotlight when they covered him.

The best thing about this DVD was with each wrestler they covered, I was able to feel that "draw" that we wrestling fans look for, so we can go "see this is why I like so and so."

And a nice bonus was watching The Miz doing Dusty Rhodes and Macho Man impersonations.

Overall 3/5

[Schlomey]

Andre the Giant at 8? Buulllllshit

[Aguakate]

As long as we're straight in that Shawn Michaels IS The Best of All Time, it's all good.

[Cool King]

No idea what the hell Rey has done to deserve a top ten spot.

He talks to the kids.

[Cool King]

Also, I'm surprised nobody has bitched about Jericho being 25th.

[Rollermacka]

bullshit list

So by this list Cena is one step away from Kurt Henning or Macho Man Randy Savage?

I think The Iron Sheik has something to say about this list

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[ooTin]

Why the fuck is Jericho at #25.. he should be in the top 10