View Full Version : Should HHH just stay off TV?
Savio
11-24-2010, 10:17 PM
I think so. sorry steele
IC Champion
11-24-2010, 10:18 PM
No, he should come back in a glorious triumph crushing everything in it's wake.
James Steele
11-24-2010, 10:22 PM
No, he should come back in a glorious triumph crushing everything in it's wake.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/da/Triple_H_WWE_Champion_No_Mercy_07.jpg
James Steele
11-24-2010, 10:23 PM
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James Steele
11-24-2010, 10:23 PM
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_qM8RdluFXfg/S7C8bWlJdBI/AAAAAAAADw8/wIwQB5Y7lK8/s1600/20256.gif
James Steele
11-24-2010, 10:24 PM
http://fast1.onesite.com/fans.wwe.com/user/sharman/the_game_triple_h/592960c4d9284763d684a5d91b174db3.jpg?v=160512
tjmidnight420
11-24-2010, 10:25 PM
That first one is a great shot of Trips, but that fucking belt kills it entirely.
James Steele
11-24-2010, 10:26 PM
That first one is a great shot of Trips, but that fucking belt kills it entirely.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_1wL4xZJU2uo/RsQJgUA66PI/AAAAAAAAATs/PzVbrPcQ7u8/s400/triple-H_Thor.jpg
James Steele
11-24-2010, 10:28 PM
Juan is a shitty mod.
Savio
11-24-2010, 10:59 PM
lol @ last pic
Volare
11-24-2010, 11:01 PM
I voted stay off, I mean he's been gone this long and WWE is alive and well. Maybe have him comeback sparingly.
Sorry James Steele.
What Would Kevin Do?
11-25-2010, 12:04 AM
It depends. If he comes back and puts over the younger talent, yes.
For the youth movement to work, some of the older guys who are left need to put over younger guys. Sheamus putting out HHH was huge. If HHH comes back and crushes him though, it won't look as good. However, if he has matches with guys like JoMo, Miz, Danielson, etc, and makes them look good (he doesn't have to lose, just make them look good), then I'm all for it.
Tazz Dan
11-25-2010, 01:08 AM
No. He should come back in all his glory and dominate Raw. Once Miz loses the belt.
Tommy Gunn
11-25-2010, 04:40 AM
Maybe one more lengthy title run for old times sake which comes to an end when a newer guy beats him, then step aside and let the new talent through.
Rammsteinmad
11-25-2010, 05:02 AM
No. He doesn't need another title run 'for old times sake', coz once that's finished this time next year someone else will suggest 'one more title run for a final goodbye'.
He's been gone long enough and WWE has been pretty consistent without him, I say let him stay off and do his backstage stuff, and obviously work the occasional angle.
Infact, I'm not really a fan of HHH, but I would love to see him in a fued with CM Punk. The two promos they cut a while back were really good, and the two seem to have good chemistry.
But other than that, what good would his return serve to the youth movement?
Rammsteinmad
11-25-2010, 05:06 AM
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Waylander
11-25-2010, 08:47 AM
I don't know why Triple H receives such harsh criticism from the internet fans; Hunter is a dedicated and entertaining performer who loves the business, why wouldn't we want somebody like that to come back?
Triple Naitch
11-25-2010, 08:58 AM
I want him back.
Rammsteinmad
11-25-2010, 10:01 AM
I don't know why Triple H receives such harsh criticism from the internet fans; Hunter is a dedicated and entertaining performer who loves the business, why wouldn't we want somebody like that to come back?
See: 2003.
XCaliber
11-25-2010, 10:57 AM
Accidently voted yes but he should come back every once and a while to help to put over some of the younger talent but that doesn't mean he will fo the job all the time but at least make them look good like he did in recent history with Rhodes and DiBiase and of course with Sheamus.
I want him to overtake Flair's world title record, because hes like a zillion times better than Flair.
Rammsteinmad
11-25-2010, 12:56 PM
It'd be nice if he returned to get revenge on Sheamus, only to have Sheamus win again.
I can't recall a feud Triple H has lost since 1999.
ron the dial
11-25-2010, 01:14 PM
of course he should come back. he's the fucking game.
The Gold Standard
11-25-2010, 01:40 PM
No, he should come back in a glorious triumph crushing everything in it's wake.
of course he should come back. he's the fucking game.
This. Triple H is the man. However, he needs to return at MSG, with the ripped jean jacket over the leather jacket.
Kane Knight
11-25-2010, 01:58 PM
I don't miss him any.
Raw has seemed pretty fresh since he's been gone. The Main Event scene has really opened up. My fear would be that guys like Sheamus, Miz, etc would be automatically knocked down a notch just with his return. I can't say I've missed him.
Damian Rey
11-25-2010, 02:43 PM
While not a big fan, I appreciate Triple H as much as the next guy. But I feel like so much has changed since his last match that he'd seem kinda out of place at the moment. You have all these new, young guys pretty much running Raw while Orton and Cena have slid into the roles of veterans on tje show.
I really enjoyed him in his Mania build and match with Sheamus. It was incredibly refreshing to see him out of the main event and in a mid card fued, helping get a new talent over.
With that said, if/when he does come back, I would hope he is not in the title hunt outside of the Elimination Chamber and spends the next 4 to 5 months getting a new talent over and primed for a serious push, ala Sheamus this year.
Rammsteinmad
11-25-2010, 04:39 PM
Raw has seemed pretty fresh since he's been gone. The Main Event scene has really opened up. My fear would be that guys like Sheamus, Miz, etc would be automatically knocked down a notch just with his return. I can't say I've missed him.
Shisen Kopf
11-25-2010, 07:37 PM
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SlickyTrickyDamon
11-25-2010, 08:27 PM
Him staying off TV makes it more special when he does come back. So, it'll be a bigger joygasm for James Steele and a bigger "oh fuck who is he gonna squash/then get fired in his return" for the rest of it.
SlickyTrickyDamon
11-25-2010, 08:27 PM
This. Triple H is the man. However, he needs to return at MSG, with the ripped jean jacket over the leather jacket.
Stop living in the past, man. Live in the now!
SlickyTrickyDamon
11-25-2010, 08:30 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/da/Triple_H_WWE_Champion_No_Mercy_07.jpg
I'm pretty interested in why Triple H never had a title belt made up for himself. Other that King of Kings leather thing from his suit at Wrestlemania 22 Also I'm surprised he wore that monstrosity of a championship belt at all. It actually looks pretty good on The Game damn I didn't think that WWE title would look good on anybody.
He seemed to be the only person who actually WORE it when he was champion. I give him credit for wearing it and trying to make it seem like it wasn't the biggest piece of trash in wrestling history besides Jeff Hardy's belt and what Orton left in Amy Weber's bag.
itsmeJD
11-25-2010, 08:31 PM
I can only imagine the reaction of James Steele when that opening chord hits...something tells me he drowns in the "joygasm" as SlickyTrickyDamon so eloquently put it. By the way, fuck no Trips shouldn't stay off TV. The Game still sells.
The Gold Standard
11-25-2010, 10:34 PM
Stop living in the past, man. Live in the now!
Triple H is one of my all time favorites. That is classic Triple H and that ovation he got at MSG was ridiculous.
He is still so good that he can sell anything with his logo on wweshop.com and he doesn't have to be anywhere near a TV camera.
Jeritron
11-26-2010, 01:28 AM
No. But a bit after his return I think he should take a reduced role.
I love HHH, but I don't want to see him hang around too long in the ring. At least not fulltime.
I'd like to see him do a couple more years fulltime, and then look at retirement. Obviously he'd still be on tv, but I'd rather see him as an authority figure, and only wrestle a couple big matches a year.
I've never been keen on seeing my favorites continue fulltime past their prime.
St. Jimmy
11-26-2010, 03:50 AM
No, what the fuck? This thread is crap.
Kane Knight
11-26-2010, 11:20 AM
Him staying off TV makes it more special when he does come back. So, it'll be a bigger joygasm for James Steele and a bigger "oh fuck who is he gonna squash/then get fired in his return" for the rest of it.
The more he stays away, the more people love him.
So if he stays away forever....
Attitude99
11-26-2010, 03:39 PM
It's Time Toooooo Retirrreeeee His Old Asss
RKO'em
11-26-2010, 05:27 PM
When he comes back, I like it, but then I'd wish he'd leave again
Mr. Nerfect
11-26-2010, 09:10 PM
Triple H can still move merchandise. His return pop will be huge and make for a nice moment. He's been gone long enough that I feel he would almost be fresh if he returned. However, like some have said, if he is put over guys too strong, he'll wear out his welcome pretty fast. RAW has been the best it has been in ages, and a large part of that is due to the freshness of guys like Nexus, The Miz, Daniel Bryan and even a guy like John Morrison getting a push.
Triple H being revealed as the General Manager and booking himself in a match against Sheamus is something I'd want to see. Especially if Sheamus (after initial shock), no-sold Triple H's return and was like "I broke him once, I'll break him again, fella." Plus you can have Stephanie McMahon hovering around telling Hunter to retire and look after his family. Creates some awesome drama in the storyline.
Triple H can win at TLC, which gives him a big face victory, which I do think he needs. But then have him tossed out of the Royal Rumble by Sheamus, to give ol' red one last laugh over Triple H.
I've got no clue what I'd like to see Triple H do at WrestleMania, though. To be perfectly honest, he's only really got a story going on with Sheamus. Can they drag that out until Mania? With proper writing, they could, but that's a long shot. I guess I could get into Triple H feuding with Nexus.
James Steele
11-26-2010, 09:44 PM
I really want to see Triple H and CM Punk at WrestleMania.
The Gold Standard
11-27-2010, 03:07 AM
Triple H can still move merchandise. His return pop will be huge and make for a nice moment. He's been gone long enough that I feel he would almost be fresh if he returned. However, like some have said, if he is put over guys too strong, he'll wear out his welcome pretty fast. RAW has been the best it has been in ages, and a large part of that is due to the freshness of guys like Nexus, The Miz, Daniel Bryan and even a guy like John Morrison getting a push.
Triple H being revealed as the General Manager and booking himself in a match against Sheamus is something I'd want to see. Especially if Sheamus (after initial shock), no-sold Triple H's return and was like "I broke him once, I'll break him again, fella." Plus you can have Stephanie McMahon hovering around telling Hunter to retire and look after his family. Creates some awesome drama in the storyline.
Triple H can win at TLC, which gives him a big face victory, which I do think he needs. But then have him tossed out of the Royal Rumble by Sheamus, to give ol' red one last laugh over Triple H.
I've got no clue what I'd like to see Triple H do at WrestleMania, though. To be perfectly honest, he's only really got a story going on with Sheamus. Can they drag that out until Mania? With proper writing, they could, but that's a long shot. I guess I could get into Triple H feuding with Nexus.
It can be dragged out. If you think about it there are only 3 ppvs between now and Mania. Say they fight at TLC. One throws out the other in Rumble. They are both in the same EC. Then they end the feud at Mania. I think it can be stretched out very easily.
Damian Rey
11-27-2010, 04:45 AM
It can be dragged out. If you think about it there are only 3 ppvs between now and Mania. Say they fight at TLC. One throws out the other in Rumble. They are both in the same EC. Then they end the feud at Mania. I think it can be stretched out very easily.
The only problem I'd have with that is it's a retread of last year, and I think Sheamus has moved on from that feud. He needed to help get him huge over and legitimize him, which it did. At this point, other than giving Trips the win in a rubber match, what would the feud accomplish?
Sheamus is in a solid feud that's using his new found main evebt status to help elevate a John Morrison. He doesn't need to go backwards into another feud with Hunter.
I really feel like there's not a whole lot left for Hunter to do at this moment. I mean, you cpuld slide him into the Nexus angle, but we already have both Cena, Orton, and now possibly the Miz intertwining in that angle. Hard for me to see how Hunter fits there.
Mr. Nerfect
11-27-2010, 10:32 AM
I really want to see Triple H and CM Punk at WrestleMania.
That would be awesome, but after they teased it, my personal tastes lean more towards Daniel Bryan vs. CM Punk. You basically keep the US Title on Bryan until Punk is ready to return. While on commentary, although still technically being a heel, Punk gives enough props to the faces that when he is ready, he can get a nice pop for it. He approaches Bryan about joining a new Straight Edge Society. Bryan respectfully declines so Punk respectfully requests a shot at the US Title.
The two play sly little games with each other heading in, and they both talk about how they want their match to highlight how much they enjoy competition. Daniel Bryan retains the US Title there, and Punk snaps after the match, attacking Bryan from behind and cementing his status as a heel.
At Extreme Rules, you let the guys go in a No Holds Barred Match, where Bryan again retains the US Title with some sort of fucked up submission hold in the ropes. You could even have Punk look like a stubborn bad-ass who doesn't submit here, and continue their feud into Over the Limit. Some sort of Ultimate Submission Match?
By this point, Bryan would have spent like 8 months as United States Champion. You draft MVP over, and he gets a bit worried that Daniel Bryan is going to rival his title reign. The two have a feud themselves, and Bryan goes over there. It'd be tremendous for both the United States Title and Daniel Bryan.
itsmeJD
11-27-2010, 10:55 AM
That would be awesome, but after they teased it, my personal tastes lean more towards Daniel Bryan vs. CM Punk. You basically keep the US Title on Bryan until Punk is ready to return. While on commentary, although still technically being a heel, Punk gives enough props to the faces that when he is ready, he can get a nice pop for it. He approaches Bryan about joining a new Straight Edge Society. Bryan respectfully declines so Punk respectfully requests a shot at the US Title.
The two play sly little games with each other heading in, and they both talk about how they want their match to highlight how much they enjoy competition. Daniel Bryan retains the US Title there, and Punk snaps after the match, attacking Bryan from behind and cementing his status as a heel.
At Extreme Rules, you let the guys go in a No Holds Barred Match, where Bryan again retains the US Title with some sort of fucked up submission hold in the ropes. You could even have Punk look like a stubborn bad-ass who doesn't submit here, and continue their feud into Over the Limit. Some sort of Ultimate Submission Match?
By this point, Bryan would have spent like 8 months as United States Champion. You draft MVP over, and he gets a bit worried that Daniel Bryan is going to rival his title reign. The two have a feud themselves, and Bryan goes over there. It'd be tremendous for both the United States Title and Daniel Bryan.
As much as I love this idea...this is WWE creative we're talking about right? Hell I could see Bryan dropping the belt on RAW Monday if Vince gets a wild hair up his ass. VERY good idea though.
Savio
11-28-2010, 04:37 PM
WWE creative is doing a lot better now.
Mooияakeя™
11-28-2010, 04:39 PM
Fuck that belt off for a start.
Jeritron
11-28-2010, 05:25 PM
Triple H can still move merchandise. His return pop will be huge and make for a nice moment. He's been gone long enough that I feel he would almost be fresh if he returned. However, like some have said, if he is put over guys too strong, he'll wear out his welcome pretty fast. RAW has been the best it has been in ages, and a large part of that is due to the freshness of guys like Nexus, The Miz, Daniel Bryan and even a guy like John Morrison getting a push.
Triple H being revealed as the General Manager and booking himself in a match against Sheamus is something I'd want to see. Especially if Sheamus (after initial shock), no-sold Triple H's return and was like "I broke him once, I'll break him again, fella." Plus you can have Stephanie McMahon hovering around telling Hunter to retire and look after his family. Creates some awesome drama in the storyline.
Triple H can win at TLC, which gives him a big face victory, which I do think he needs. But then have him tossed out of the Royal Rumble by Sheamus, to give ol' red one last laugh over Triple H.
I've got no clue what I'd like to see Triple H do at WrestleMania, though. To be perfectly honest, he's only really got a story going on with Sheamus. Can they drag that out until Mania? With proper writing, they could, but that's a long shot. I guess I could get into Triple H feuding with Nexus.
Triple H vs The Miz
Damian Rey
11-28-2010, 07:43 PM
Triple H vs The Miz
While the promos would be great, I get the feeling the Miz would be jobbed to holy hell in that feud.
Jeritron
11-28-2010, 10:50 PM
That all depends on his push. If WWE is serious about keeping him at the top, he won't get jobbed to holy hell. He'd only get jobbed out if their plans were to job him out anyways.
Cena, Batista, Jeff Hardy and others all came out of feuds with HHH better than they went in.
The Gold Standard
11-28-2010, 11:33 PM
Triple H vs The Miz
I think it would be hard to take The Miz seriously in a match against Triple H. By that I mean, how am I suppose to believe The Miz will beat Triple H? When he comes back, Triple H will come back as a dominant figure, not like Taker did this last time. When Triple H is a top face and dominant, he has really never lost. I don't see this happening. Even though Triple H putting over The Miz would be awesome (pun intended).
The Gold Standard
11-28-2010, 11:39 PM
That all depends on his push. If WWE is serious about keeping him at the top, he won't get jobbed to holy hell. He'd only get jobbed out if their plans were to job him out anyways.
Cena, Batista, Jeff Hardy and others all came out of feuds with HHH better than they went in.
The problem is we have seen people get pushed outstandingly and come out of a huge match with Triple H very much worse for wear. The most recent case is Orton last year.
Jeritron
11-28-2010, 11:42 PM
I think it would be hard to take The Miz seriously in a match against Triple H. By that I mean, how am I suppose to believe The Miz will beat Triple H?
That's why you start putting him in matches against people like HHH. See how that works? That's always how it works in wrestling.
It's just because you haven't seen him mixing with those guys. That's the only reason. It's not a size thing, because he's no smaller than Jericho or CM Punk, and others who have had long careers on top.
And it's certainly not a question of on-air character/ability.
Jeritron
11-28-2010, 11:48 PM
The problem is we have seen people get pushed outstandingly and come out of a huge match with Triple H very much worse for wear. The most recent case is Orton last year.
That's true, but in those cases the "victims" lost. That's a creative decision, not some unforseen hazard.
If they want to push Miz, they should push him against the best. If they don't want to have him win then don't bother, but clearly they're going to put him against someone.
The Gold Standard
11-29-2010, 12:15 AM
That's why you start putting him in matches against people like HHH. See how that works? That's always how it works in wrestling.
It's just because you haven't seen him mixing with those guys. That's the only reason. It's not a size thing, because he's no smaller than Jericho or CM Punk, and others who have had long careers on top.
And it's certainly not a question of on-air character/ability.
It all depends on when HHH comes back and how long it takes him to get into the title picture. If Trips comes back in the next 2 months to challenge The Miz, there is no way I see The Miz going over.
As weird as this may sound, the way HHH is booked, The Miz almost needs to build himself up again to face HHH.
James Steele
11-29-2010, 12:34 AM
:lol:
Since when is Triple H some mythical fucking dragon from some alternate Deathiverse?
Mr Amazing
11-29-2010, 01:08 AM
i actually can see triple h returning this monday and costing sheamus the KOTR
Aguakate
11-29-2010, 02:51 AM
No. Triple H needs, NEEDS, to come back and give "the rub" to the young guys. Having him come back and feud with The Miz for the WWE Title would "legitimize" Miz as Champion. Hunter already did that for Sheamus, so, WWE needs him on tv.
The Gold Standard
11-29-2010, 09:51 AM
It would legitimize him as champ if HHH gave him the rub, but how many times has he done that?
Wasn't the reason he wanted to give the rub to Sheamus because Sheamus was his workout buddy?
Sepholio
11-29-2010, 10:36 AM
Personally, I think HHH needs to be on my TV right the fuck now. For some reason I want him to come back as a heel for awhile though before the inevitable face turn. Nothing like a pissed off HHH kicking the shit out of people for no reason. Always puts a smile on my face.
The Gold Standard
11-29-2010, 11:50 AM
Personally, I think HHH needs to be on my TV right the fuck now. For some reason I want him to come back as a heel for awhile though before the inevitable face turn. Nothing like a pissed off HHH kicking the shit out of people for no reason. Always puts a smile on my face.
I am the same way.
If he comes back as an ass-kicking heel...surely he'll suplant Miz at the top of the food chain.
No way is Miz gonna be anything but a sneaky "cowardly" heel champ.
Savio
11-29-2010, 01:01 PM
Miz will be a monster heel :shifty:
Damian Rey
11-29-2010, 01:44 PM
If they had a 3 match series, and Miz was able to take two out of those three matches or just went over Hunter in two consecutive matches, then I'd be down for a program with them. But as mentioned several times above, Hunter tends to be dominant more times than not and does not give the rubn all too often.
If it means Miz getting a nice rub and actually pinning Triple H after a SCF, then I'm more than down. Just have a feeling Hunter would go over and Miz' push would hit a wall.
James Steele
11-29-2010, 04:23 PM
Yes, because losing to the greatest wrestler of all time means you go back to Jobbertown.
It's not that.
HHH is in the twilight of his career, more so, a lot of the Main Event talent has either gone (HBK) or on the way out (Taker, Mysterio can't have many years left). Therefore, WWE needs to keep their new talent looking strong.
If HHH comes back and goes over a guy like Miz the thought process becomes "So, Miz is a top guy...as long as HHH (etc) isn't around".
To build a new "Top Tier Guy" they have to be put over the outgoing guys. HHH knows this, let's see if he puts it into practice.
James Steele
11-29-2010, 07:40 PM
Triple H has made stars left and right.
jskinnyg
11-30-2010, 12:00 PM
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_1wL4xZJU2uo/RsQJgUA66PI/AAAAAAAAATs/PzVbrPcQ7u8/s400/triple-H_Thor.jpg
THIS! Steel-OOOO!!!
Savio
11-30-2010, 12:00 PM
I honestly thought HHH was gonna come out last night and attack Sheamus.
I'm guessing that's the setup for his return.
Sheamus boasts about being the only "King" in WWE, "King of Kings" hits, enter HHH. Fued. HHH goes over.
James Steele
11-30-2010, 10:38 PM
As it should be.
Damian Rey
12-01-2010, 01:06 AM
James, I get where you're coming from, but losing to Triple H, who has been shelved for months, is not going to help Miz.
Triple H is at that point in his career where him losing does nothing to tarnish his already legendary status. He needs to take what he's done in the past, and like he did with Sheamus, use it to help legitimize the new up and coming talents and set them up for the future.
It worked the same way back in mid 1999 and early 2000 when Hunter was destroying every Mick Foley persona, which lead to Hunter retiring Foley. While he was well on his way, going over a guy like Mick Foley the way he did legitimized Triple H as the top heel in the company.
He's now in a position to do the same.
Jeritron
12-01-2010, 01:52 AM
As it should be.
If Sheamus and HHH face eachother at Mania again, Sheamus should definitely win.
I'm not sure what will happen after that.
Damian Rey
12-01-2010, 03:44 AM
If Sheamus and HHH face eachother at Mania again, Sheamus should definitely win.
I'm not sure what will happen after that.
I'm not sure I'd even want to see that again. Like I said earlier, I feel Sheamus has moved past his Triple H phase. Restarting a feud that Sheamus pretty much won wouldn't do anything more than what it's done already.
Jeritron
12-01-2010, 05:50 AM
Unless he wins it again. I still want to see that 3 stages of hell match they were talking about.
Other than that I'm good with it.
Damian Rey
12-01-2010, 03:33 PM
Unless he wins it again. I still want to see that 3 stages of hell match they were talking about.
Other than that I'm good with it.
Yea if Sheamus comes out on top, then I guess it'd be okay with it. I'd honestly just like to see Hunter doing something else.
Jeritron
12-01-2010, 05:01 PM
I do want to see HHH do something else for Wrestlemania, to be honest. I've liked the HHH/Sheamus feud, but I don't really want to see them both doing the same thing at Mania again.
I'd be happy if they were able to tie the whole thing up before Wrestlemania.
Ideally, they'd meet again in the Rumble, have their 3 Stages of Hell match at the Febuary PPV and close the book on it. Then move onto fresh programs. But with the way Elimination Chamber is set up, they will probably require both of them for the Chamber matches.
James Steele
12-01-2010, 05:22 PM
I think you could "end it" at the Rumble. (Pray to God HHH is back by then).
They have the 3 Stages of Hell match at the Rumble. Sheamus wins, but then Triple H eliminates Sheamus and gets his last laugh and stars argues with Sheamus when _______ throws him out and makes fun of him. Lead to next feud - right there.
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