The Thread in which we trash George Lucas [Archive]

Swiss Ultimate

12-07-2010, 07:36 PM

So fucking stupid... (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/3261450/George-Lucas-plans-to-put-dead-film-stars-back-on-the-screen.html)

Like how could the guy who made Star Wars and Indiana Jones be so stupid?

Sixx

12-07-2010, 07:49 PM

He's butt-buddies with a jew.

There.

Jeritron

12-08-2010, 01:25 AM

It's because of his obsession with achieving new things and pushing the technology his company started.

When it was bold and new, it was genius. He had a vision and worked towards it, and what he created along the way was amazing.
Now, that technology has caught up to him. He can do whatever he wants now. It's not longer about innovation, and he's just fucking around with the tools.
This in particular isn't so bad though.

I'm sure he still has genius capacity, but there just isn't much motivating him and he's become too hung-up on other things.

Jeritron

12-08-2010, 01:27 AM

Also, this movie will make a ton of money. Just look at those tacky paintings of all these dead celebs hanging out together.
People are hokey as shit, and romanticize dead celebs from Hollywood eras. They will turn out to this.

Juan

12-08-2010, 01:27 AM

This sounds awesome to me tbh

Jeritron

12-08-2010, 01:28 AM

He's butt-buddies with a jew.

There.

I assume you're talking about Steven Spielberg who is a directorial/creative genius. He's kept his groove too.

Jeritron

12-08-2010, 01:30 AM

This sounds awesome to me tbh

Robert Zemeckis directed an episode of Tales From The Crypt where the main character is Humphrey Bogart. It was pretty fantastic.

If this is a great movie, I will call it as such. I'm not convinced too strong on the concept either way.
It seems like the novelty is the primary idea, but if there's something great put with it, then kudos to them.

Jeritron

12-08-2010, 01:33 AM

Sixx

12-08-2010, 03:44 AM

I assume you're talking about Steven Spielberg who is a directorial/creative genius. He's kept his groove too.

On a serious note, Steven Spielberg's last good movie was Saving Private Ryan in my opinion. Talking about directing, not producing.

And George Lucas was always pretty meh for me. Probably because I'm no Star Wars fan.

Kalyx triaD

12-08-2010, 03:54 AM

The best Star Wars stories didn't even come from him. And he got lucky on Eps.III, but it would have been hard to fuck up a story with so much awesome in it.

Lara Emily

12-08-2010, 04:05 AM

On a serious note, Steven Spielberg's last good movie was Saving Private Ryan in my opinion. Talking about directing, not producing.

And George Lucas was always pretty meh for me. Probably because I'm no Star Wars fan.

Munich, Minority Report and Catch Me If You Can were all good

Jeritron

12-08-2010, 04:08 AM

I think that's a matter of opinion and not fact. I consider the original Star Wars trilogy the best stories, and even though he accepted outside influence in scripting and directing of the 2 sequels, he provided the stories, and creative direction.
Irvin Kershner and Richard Marquand did a good job directing the actors, and Lawrence Kasdan (and Leigh Brackett) did a good job with dialogue. Particularly the love story between Han and Leia.
But they didn't weave the stories or populate the universe.

Perhaps you mean comics and video games.

Also, I have a hard time calling someone lucky on making a great movie. That story had so much "awesome in it" because he wrote it. Even if the pieces were in place from 30 years prior, he put them there.
It's just as easy to say he got unlucky on Eps. 1 and 2, but I don't think luck is a big factor.

Jeritron

12-08-2010, 04:13 AM

Munich, Minority Report and Catch Me If You Can were all good

Personally, I think Minority Report is a tremendously underrated movie. I think it was a bit out of character for it's time though.
The trends in movies at the beginning of the decade don't match up with it. People seemed to be into a different tone kinda. Minority Report may have hit more in recent years.

I think it's close to, or every bit as good as Inception or Blade Runner. And I love Inception and Blade Runner.

Sixx

12-08-2010, 04:16 AM

Munich, Minority Report and Catch Me If You Can were all good

Munich was meh, Minority Report and Catch Me if You Can were ok, but not great.

And Saving Private Ryan is one of my favourite movies ever.

Jeritron

12-08-2010, 04:18 AM

Sixx

12-08-2010, 04:34 AM

I also think the most common complaints about Kingdom of the Crystal Skull are ridiculous.
Any problems it does have certainly have nothing to do with Spielberg, I think. He directed that movie just as wonderfully as any of the other Indy flicks.
My biggest gripes would be 1 or 2 very brief parts, and an overuse of CGI. Hardly enough to ruin a fun movie for me, though.

I consider this a good hangover movie.

It's fun and all, you don't really have to give it any thought but you wouldn't consider watching this movie again.

And some parts are hilarious. Seriously, the aliens and shit.

Fignuts

12-08-2010, 04:46 AM

Shut up, Swiss. It sounds neat.

Fignuts

12-08-2010, 04:48 AM

The best Star Wars stories didn't even come from him. And he got lucky on Eps.III, but it would have been hard to fuck up a story with so much awesome in it.

I love EU. More so than the prequels. No way do they beat out the original trilogy, however.

Fignuts

12-08-2010, 04:50 AM

One thing I really hate is that by the time I saw Empire, I already knew Vader was Luke's father. Everyone did. Might of seen it when it came out but I was too young to remember, or even appreciate the story. Don't think I actually watched the whole trilogy until like 1995 or something.

Jeritron

12-08-2010, 05:01 AM

By the time I saw them it was obviously common knowledge to people (1992ish), but I was also only 6 or 7 years old, so I didn't really know.
If I had heard it, I wasn't paying attention. I was young enough to be spoiler free based on only just beginning my pop-culture awareness.

#BROKEN Hasney

12-08-2010, 07:40 AM

Lucas has denied he's making a film with dead actors anyways

http://screencrave.com/2010-12-07/george-lucas-not-bringing-dead-actors-back-to-life-for-new-film/

The Jayman

12-08-2010, 10:29 AM

I could never trash George Lucas because he gave me this

http://cdn.movieclips.com/keyart/222699x480.jpg

Razzamajazz

12-08-2010, 12:34 PM

i'm surprised nobody's posted the south park clip of spielberg and lucas raping indiana jones

Rammsteinmad

12-08-2010, 01:13 PM

I could imagine myself barely knowing half of the celebs he wants to use.

mitch_h

12-08-2010, 06:36 PM

While were talking about underrated Spielberg movies, I just want to say that despite it's flaws A.I. is a good movie. Also, Revenge of the Sith sucks just as bad as episode 1 and 2.

Anybody Thrilla

12-08-2010, 09:39 PM

A.I. bored me to tears, but I've never been a big fan of the sci fi genre anyway.

Kalyx triaD

12-09-2010, 08:35 AM

Loved AI. War of the Worlds was one of the few movies to piss me off. The ending was much too pretentious, even for Steven.

Sixx

12-10-2010, 04:32 AM

The most irritating thing about War of the Worlds was Dakota Fanning.

Fucking stupid bitch. All she did was scream.

Jeritron

12-10-2010, 05:37 AM

Swiss Ultimate

12-10-2010, 02:59 PM

I didn't know anyone considered Steven Spielberg pretentious. He's a director that was dismissed by close-minded snobs for a long time, before they came around to accept him.
If anything I feel like he's been singled out at times for not being pretentious.

I agree that the ending was the worst part of War or the Worlds, but I still mostly loved that movie. I feel like it really didn't know how to end.
Everything up through the Tim Robbins sequence was fantastic. Then they sort of just stumble into a happy ending.
On the whole I don't understand why a lot of people pan that entire movie.

I'm a geek so I had issues with the clothes not getting zapped and the camcorders working (fuck the Japanese explanation!).

Also, just couldn't buy Tom Cruise as that character. I couldn't do it. He didn't help with all his scientology nonsense that he was screaming about at the time.

Fignuts

12-10-2010, 04:33 PM

If people have a problem with the ending, they should take it up with H.G. Wells, not Steven Spielberg.

Cause ya know, it's a novel?

Fucking philistines.

thedamndest

12-10-2010, 06:19 PM

The ending is fine but it is a huge disappointment on-screen when you're watching two hours of aliens blowing stuff up. Worked fine in the book.

Nervous Ferret

12-10-2010, 06:26 PM

Animaniacs

Lara Emily

12-10-2010, 07:09 PM

If people have a problem with the ending, they should take it up with H.G. Wells, not Steven Spielberg.

Cause ya know, it's a novel?

Fucking philistines.

There's a huge difference, in the novel the Aliens just descend and attack with no real indication that they did any recon. In the movie they set out that the Aliens landed their pods in the Earth millions of years ago and studied us and then attacked. If you studied the planet for millions of years ya think ya might have discovered viruses and shit and found ways to avoid you know dying from touching a bike. That small change kills the the ending.

Fignuts

12-11-2010, 02:42 PM

To this day, new types of bacteria are being discovered, so that problem doesn't really bother me that much.

Lara Emily

12-11-2010, 06:12 PM

To this day, new types of bacteria are being discovered, so that problem doesn't really bother me that much.

I doubt new bacteria is being discovered on dusty bicycles in American basements

Gerard

12-13-2010, 06:33 PM

He was trying to do this for one of the Star Wars prequels as well, he wanted to have Peter Cushing in one of them again. But the footage they had was unusable for the role.

Swiss Ultimate

12-13-2010, 07:46 PM

He might have changed the ending considering how the story is pretty much thrown to the wind from the start of the movie.

Swiss Ultimate

02-16-2013, 12:25 PM

So with Disney buying Star Wars, will I ever get my original star wars films on DVD?

Kalyx triaD

02-16-2013, 12:33 PM

I think they released those some years ago to aimless praise.

Swiss Ultimate

02-16-2013, 01:22 PM

Only one I know of is New Hope and it was a "bonus". The others were the modified versions.

Tommy Gunn

02-16-2013, 07:28 PM

The original versions on bluray would be cool, I absolutely refuse to buy a version of Return of the Jedi with Hayden Christensen in it. Get the fuck out of the movie, guy.

Kalyx triaD

02-16-2013, 07:50 PM

Really?

Swiss Ultimate

02-16-2013, 11:45 PM

Yeah, it's different. I don't like things that are different.

Swiss Ultimate

02-16-2013, 11:47 PM

Everybody's acting in the original trilogy was way better, it's easier to pretend the prequels don't exist...hard to do that with their actors making appearances. Jar Jar was put in Return too.

Kane Knight

02-17-2013, 01:05 AM

The original versions on bluray would be cool, I absolutely refuse to buy a version of Return of the Jedi with Hayden Christensen in it. Get the fuck out of the movie, guy.

Really?

To be fair, that is the worst thing to ever happen in the history of film.

Anyway, the DVDs are fine and I'm not sure how much of a return we'd see on upgrading to BD.

Though someone did evidently go out of their way to make a fan version, dutiful remastered. I can't speak to how good it is, but if you google it you can find praise for it.

SlickyTrickyDamon

02-17-2013, 02:28 AM

The unedited original trilogy was boxed together as Disc 2 for the one of the releases. It was released in like 2006. They did them for all three movies. So anybody who doesn't have an un-edited version of Star Wars now is just bitching for no reason.

Fignuts

02-18-2013, 01:32 PM

Unless they want unedited originals on blu ray.

Like I do. Otherwise you get darth vader comically shouting NOOOOOOO before he saves Luke.

Fucking shit

Fignuts

02-18-2013, 01:34 PM

Everybody's acting in the original trilogy was way better, it's easier to pretend the prequels don't exist...hard to do that with their actors making appearances. Jar Jar was put in Return too.

The core group in the original trilogy also had way more chemistry with one another than the cast of the prequels did.