The WWE Main Even Scene

[Xero]

I'm going to list the WWE Main Eventers (and will be including anyone who has held the world title within the last year) and let's talk about whether you consider them true main eventers. You look at them and say "yeah, this guy's legit, has what it takes and deserves this spot".

Also, discuss whether you think it will last for them.

RAW
The Miz
John Cena
Randy Orton
Wade Barrett
Triple H
Batista
Sheamus
CM Punk

SmackDown!
Kane
The Undertaker
Jack Swagger
Edge
Chris Jericho
Rey Mysterio

[ooTin]

Jack Swagger is the only one that that does not deserve the spotlight... to me he speech is sloppy, repetative, and overal just boring to listen to. His in ring moves do not match his persona.... ex
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[ooTin]

RAW
The Miz - has proven that he has what it takes to do great things in WWE. Great on the mic and amazing at riling up the crowd. Always fun to watch in the ring.

John Cena - No doubt he is where he belongs. Even though we hate him, we really love to hate on him. I believe it is because we can relate to Cena in that he was once just an average kid watching wrestling and beating up his teddy bears.

Randy Orton - The Viper is odd, quick, and good on the mic. His unusual moves ate entertaining to observe and he always puts on a good match.

Wade Barrett - Im not convinced that he should be the leader of Nexus. although I do believe that he has a ton of potential as a world heavyweight champion in the future.

Triple H - He is the Game. Enough said.

Batista - Big, angry, and dominating. Although his move list is lacking, he shows a lot of power and precision in the 4 or 5 moves he does have in his arsenal. He really knows how to make a crowd hate him.

Sheamus - Funny as hell, great performer, and people love to make fun of his funny features, complexion and accent. FELLA! All around A+ performer.

CM Punk - Nothing I could say could possibly make this guy any better. He can wrestle, talk, announce, and he has a pepsi logo on one side, and the Cobra on the other side... whats not to love.

SmackDown!

Kane - After many years of mediocre story lines, Kane has really come into his own with his battle with Edge, He has really shown off his mic abilities over the last month. As far as his in ring abilities go, they could be better, especially when he takes the pedigree.

The Undertaker - Its the deadman, nothing needs to be said, except that I wish he could wrestle more like back in the day.

Jack Swagger -The only one that that does not deserve the spotlight... to me he speech is sloppy, repetative, and overal just boring to listen to. His in ring moves do not match his persona

Edge - Has worked very hard to get where he is. Great all around worker one of the best crowd manipulators that exists.

Chris Jericho - Very, very good wrestler, mic skills are off the charts, His 2nd coming was a bit sloppy due to ring rust or whatever but he worked through it and is back on top!

Rey Mysterio - The guy has heart, and an impressive move set. As far as HEAVYWEIGHT champion, idk I just dont like the idea that I am taller than the champion. Pretty good all around. I think Mysterio would be amazing in TNA style matches.

[Xero]

The Miz - I don't see him as a true main eventer yet, despite him being one of my absolute favorites. I love him, but there's just something that seems off with him at the top. I definitely feel he has what it takes and will be there soon enough, and I do feel he's earned the title, but he hasn't quite acquired that intangible for me to consider him a bonafide main eventer.

John Cena - Absolutely, and will be there for years to come. He deserves the spot where he is and does what's needed.

Randy Orton - Yes. I may not enjoy him sometimes, but he definately feels like he's at that top spot.

Wade Barrett - Not quite. Wouldn't buy him winning the world title at this point, after all the shit that's gone down with him and Nexus, and the fact that he has won only one match that anyone could give two shits about. He might have a future, but I can't say one way or another with certainty at this point.

Triple H - Absolutely. A modern-day living legend.

Batista - I see him as a main eventer, but I don't think he deserved it. He never really showed anything of interest to me until his last heel run. He absolutely deserved it there, then he left. That's why, on a whole, I don't think he deserved it, but would have if he stuck around in that Hollywood gimmick.

Sheamus - Again, another guy I love but don't quite see at the top. I think he's shown that he can run with the title and make it work, is solid in the ring and can talk with the best of them, but again, there's that intangible missing. Maybe it's that one hot Superstar-making feud that he's missing. But he has a bright future.

CM Punk - Once again, love him but missing the intangible.

Kane - No. Kane is a solid worker, but he never really progressed well after parting with Taker. He definitely came in hot and buyable as a main eventer with the Taker storyline a decade ago, but he's been running on that steam alone ever since. Yes, part of it's bad booking, but the fact is that I just can't buy him at the top. I think he's earned his title run, but like Benoit's, it's more of a "thanks for your work" gift rather than "we trust you to be one of the best things we have going today".

The Undertaker - Absolutely. Another modern day legend.

Jack Swagger - They tried to make him, and then just let him slip back down. If anything, I see him as a transitional champion who just couldn't hang with the main event just yet. A few years down the line, I think it could happen, but right now I don't see him as a main eventer.

Edge - Honestly, I can't put my finger on it, but I never bought Edge as a main eventer personally. He absolutely deserves the spot, and I do enjoy his work in and out of the ring, but he always felt, to me, like a guy who should be cycled in and out of a top spot when he was needed, but not a solidified top guy.

Chris Jericho - Yes.

Rey Mysterio - I think he's in the spot he deserves to be right now. He's over, and constantly puts on great matches. He's not very believable for the most part, but whatever. Personally, I'd rather have him in that spot where he's cycled in and out than a permanent fixture at the top.

[The One]

RAW

The Miz
Let's first be fair and say I haven't watched a single second of rasslin' since Shawn Michaels last match. So I don't know how he's been handled or what his current status is (I'm a little surprised he'd be listed as a main eventer). Having said that, he really made improvements by leaps and bounds while in a tag team with John Morrison. He's always seemed to me to be a strong company man, willing to do what it took. He certainly has the look, if not the size, so I'm happy to hear they're giving another look to the smaller folks. Overall, provided he's been booked well, I think he has the ability and the tenacity to be a Main Eventer.

John Cena
Yes. Like him, love him, hate him - he's been the lightning rod of the entire industry for years now. He's never had an impressive move list, but so often many of the top names don't (see: Hogan, Rock) and even more narrow down their move list once they reach the top (see: Austin, Taker). And that's fine. Other than a punch, it really pays to have certain moves associated with you, it provides great chances for the audience to pop. I have to admit, I've been a mark of Cena since I realized just how damn much he loves this industry. He's a great company man who I believe still to this day wakes up every morning loving what he does. Plus, at this point, after the way he's been historically booked, he can't be anything less than one of the big dawgs.

Randy Orton
He's so hot and cold it makes me miserable. I feel like he gets how to be over like rover, but he just doesn't care to perfect his skills. He's not been "the man" so I think if he's not careful he could easily slip down to upper midcard purgatory. I always felt he had the raw natural ability to be the biggest name in wrestling over the next 20 years...well we're almost like 10 years into that "next 20 years" thing and he has been good, at times he's been great, but he always seems to fall just shy of fulfilling his promise.

Wade Barrett
I have no idea who this is...

Triple H
K4L.

Batista
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought Batista left WWE to try and get a career in MMA going and was at one point close to signing with StrikeForce. Is he back in WWE currently?

Sheamus
I'm sure he's a great guy, and a hard worker...but I never saw anything out of him in his first year with the company that made me think was deserving of the push he received. His match at Mania with Hunter was good, but who doesn't have good matches with Hunter? Plus, he is going to suffer over the long term of being pushed too high too fast. When someone works their way up over years, they can jump to non-World Title matches and it's ok. If they get rushed to the belt, once their not champ, they usually flounder. And his gimmick...common...so no, I don't think he deserves to be in the main event.

CM Punk
I like Punk, I'm glad to see him be treated in WWE with the appreciation he deserves. I was very afraid before he came in he would be misused. And thus far, his career in the E has been what he deserves it to be.

SmackDown!

Kane
I don't know that it's fair to continue to list Kane as Main Eventer simply because he's been a top guy for so long. WWE has always had this sense of "we can come back to him" and they let him float adrift. I love Kane, but WWE has made it clear (at least in my eyes) that he's a perma-upper-Midcarder. He deserves better, but I doubt he'll ever get it.

The Undertaker
He's the Undertaker. OF COURSE he's a legit Main Eventer.

Jack Swagger
No. He's never impressed me. I've tried to understand the appeal. It's just lost on me. I wouldn't want to see him anywhere near the IC or US belt, let alone a World Title.

Edge
He's earned his stripes, and quietly amassed what I believe to be the greatest career of any active wrestler today. His matches, feuds, and title reigns speak for themselves. It's odd because I feel he's often times overlooked as an active icon, but in the last decade, who could you say had a better kayfabe career than him? Plus he's got the skills to pay the bills.

Chris Jericho
I love Jericho. I will always love Jericho. the last time I saw him was when he beat Edge at Mania...if someone told me he still had the belt and was getting a Cena-esque push, I'd love you for it.

Rey Mysterio
No. No disrespect, I value Rey's contributions to this business, but he is not a main eventer on the largest company in the industry. Sorry.

[glanville6]

Thwagger is the only guy I never would have booked as a main event.

Kane's time is up.

Undertaker is a draw, therefore a main event, although for all purposes he shouldn't be a title focus anymore.

Mysterio bores me, but has a following so he will stick around a while in the ME

Batista and Y2J could come back and main event

CM Punk- I hope he could return to the main event, all depends on if he is booked that way, but the fans buy him as Main event material.

Miz is interesting, and it will last a few months, but don't see him as a title contender in 2012

[Xero]

Holy shit, it's TOVO!

And Miz is the WWE champion, and Batista IS gone, but I included him because he was champion this past year and there's always talk of him returning.

Also, Jericho's currently out (taking a break) and may not be seen until SummerSlam or later.

[The One]

Holy shit, it's TOVO!

Yeah someone told me Shawn Michaels was coming back...it was worth looking into. I am happy to see him retire the way he did, but I was curious. His returning as a Road Agent gives me optimism for the future, but not enough to make me start watching again.

How ya been Xero?

[Xero]

Things are good. Can't blame you for leaving after Michaels left.

[The One]

Not a lot to hold on to as a mark. I marked for Flair, I marked for Michaels. When those two left, I was a smart with appreciation for some current workers, but that's it. Part of being a fan of this business is a willingness to put aside logic and reason and just be a fan - I've only ever been able to have that with a handful of wrestlers...and they're all gone now.

[The One]

Speaking of workers I have HUGE respect for - I kind of got the feeling heading into Mania this year Christian was about to become a legit superstar in the company...did he break through?

[Xero]

No. He was feuding with Del Rio (Dos Caras, Jr.) when he got injured. He's out for a few more months, but showed up last week to present a Slammy with Edge.

He's been a midcarder since he returned. Which is a shame.

[The One]

Yeah I had heard Dos Caras Jr was down in Florida for a while. I never much cared for him as I felt he kind of mooched off his uncle and dad, but how's he doing in the E?

[Xero]

Probably the biggest prospect for next main eventer on SD!. In a world title match at the next PPV.

Didn't include him because he's not really there just yet. But he's actually one of my favorites to win the Rumble.

[The One]

Seriously? They'd let a Lucha not named Rey Mysterio win the Rumble???

[Xero]

He debuted without the mask. Pretty much a Mexican JBL.

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g122/sandman3g/401px-Alberto_Del_Rio_2010_Tribute_.jpg

He's actually been feuding with Rey and getting a hell of a push.

[The One]

He debuted without the mask??? He even fought in MMA with his mask on.

He's lost the last ounce of respect I held for him. :nono:

[Mr. Pierre]

RAW
The Miz - No. He's very close though. If he's consistently booked in the main event scene after his title run and he has some meaningful programs, he'll get there.

John Cena - Yes. Top guy in the company, and constantly puts on exciting matches, promos, anything.

Randy Orton - Yes. He's arguably 1a in the company, is extremely over, and has been consistently booked well in the past 3 years.

Wade Barrett - No. Like Miz, he's very close. Barrett has been booked in the main event since day one, which I why I think he's so close. Plus, he's the head of a stable that has been one of RAW's staples of 2010, and he's been great.

Triple H - Yes. He's one of WWE's greatest, and has been for the past decade.

Batista - Yes. His rise to the top was booked perfectly, and he was mega-over ever since. His match quality wasn't always there, but his charisma was.

Sheamus - No. He's constantly floating back and forth between main event and mid-card. They're willing to put him over clean against mid-card talent, only to be built up and lose to the big boys. He would be considered a main event talent to me if he was booked consistently.

CM Punk - No. See Sheamus.

SmackDown!
Kane - No. But, he's an interesting case because his tie with the Undertaker has made him credible. A few more wins with the Championship and he can be a true main eventer again, but if it wasn't for the Undertaker, he'd be an absolute no, instead of a "there's a chance".

The Undertaker - Yes. He's been booked more dominantly than anyone and it hasn't changed in 20 years. Taker grabs attention, draws money, gets reactions, and always delivers in the big spots.

Jack Swagger - No. He has the talent to do it, it's just a matter of WWE having the faith in him to show it off in the main event. It's only a matter of time before he's back in the title picture, because he's just too good.

Edge - Yes. He's probably a step below the likes of Orton, Cena, Taker, HHH, but he has definitely proven that he's a true main event talent.

Chris Jericho - Yes. If you asked me this back in 2003 or 2004, I probably would have said No, but since he came back in 2007, he's been booked as a true top guy that they have faith in, and he's been top notch.

Rey Mysterio - Yes. This was a tough one, but I had to say Yes based on his popularity. He's a different case than Punk, Sheamus, and Swagger, because when he's booked in the mid-card, it makes the mid-card talent seem more important because Rey is fighting with them, but I can't say the same about the others.

[BizarroKing]

So why doesn't Alberto Del Rio or Big Show count as main eventers?

[Xero]

If you want to count them, that's fine.

[HBPunk]

He debuted without the mask??? He even fought in MMA with his mask on.

He's lost the last ounce of respect I held for him. :nono:

awwwwww boo hoo. i thought ye were discussing the main event scene, not some screen name who cried off cos his favourite wrestler left. shawn michaels is the greatest ever and when he left i didnt see how id care more about another wrestler more than him. If id stopped watching back then id have missed Austin, Rock, New Age Outlaws, Evolution, John Cena (the rapping version) Brock Lesnar etc so grow up and enjoy it or just fuck off

[The One]

We were discussing the main event scene, and then through the process of communication, the conversation segued into a new topic of Dos Caras Jr...but you're right, how dare people discuss things not overviewed in the topic title.

Is there a reason you felt inclined to take a shot at me, or did you just wake up this morning with an extra itchy crotch?

[Volare]

Heh, welcome back tovo, as you can see names have changed but the dipshits stay the same.

[owenbrown]

Hey! It's ToVo! He'll straighten these noobs out. lol

[CSL]

RAW
The Miz - No (The next few months should show how serious they are about making him a top guy. I see him going no higher than the Jericho upper-mid slot that can be interchanged for the odd title run/top line feud)
John Cena - Yes
Randy Orton - Yes
Wade Barrett - No (We'll see how he does without a red hot storyline/faction behind him to carry the weight. Seems very comfortable though, could be 'legit')
Triple H - Yes
Batista - Yes
Sheamus - No (I think he'll get there. I see him getting over huge as a babyface down the line and cementing a top spot)
CM Punk - No (See The Miz. His stock has probably never been higher than it is going into 2011 though so we'll see.)

SmackDown!
Kane - No (I'd have thought he'd go back to his 'old spot' once this run is done with. Retirement rumours have been around for a long time also)
The Undertaker - Yes
Jack Swagger - No (Love Swagger. Same deal as Miz though)
Edge - Yes
Chris Jericho - No (If Chris Jericho was going to be a fully fledged, full time main eventer, it would have happened years ago. He'll stay in his very nice/comfortable spot for the rest of his career I'd have thought)
Rey Mysterio - No (Unique position of being able to do a clean job to a new guy and win a world title in the space of a few months. Probably the most valuable guy they have in the ring. Nice paycheck, nice spot and a job as long as he wants it)

[Mooияakeя™]

Gah, just watched his first MMA matchup. Broken arm victory! lol.

[CSL]

Basically, I see the future consisting of a lot of guys hovering around the main event scene but no real 'challengers' to Cena or Orton, who will both probably wind up with more titles than Flair and Triple H. At some point, somebody will come along and 'explode', just not sure who yet. Don't think it'll be somebody on this list however.

[SaskatchewanChamp]

I strongly believe Tyson Kidd's bodyguard will break out at some point and will be HUGE. Barring the big prick can talk on the mic.

[HBPunk]

We were discussing the main event scene, and then through the process of communication, the conversation segued into a new topic of Dos Caras Jr...but you're right, how dare people discuss things not overviewed in the topic title.

Is there a reason you felt inclined to take a shot at me, or did you just wake up this morning with an extra itchy crotch?

first off, my itch is now fine and copletely under control.
secondly the topic is the 'main even' scene so i dunno what that is.
and finally you came across as a douche so thats the reason. xx

Hey! It's ToVo! He'll straighten these noobs out. lol

yeah!! he will type really hard and agressively and these noobs wont know what to type back. just like a real fight

[HBPunk]

I strongly believe Tyson Kidd will break out at some point and will be HUGE

fixed

[The One]

first off, my itch is now fine and copletely under control.
secondly the topic is the 'main even' scene so i dunno what that is.
and finally you came across as a douche so thats the reason. xx



yeah!! he will type really hard and agressively and these noobs wont know what to type back. just like a real fight

Not to jump to conclusions, but in my experience those who rush to bring up "real fight"s are usually the keyboard warriors who would cry in the corner like a girl in an actual physical provocation.

I find it interesting that I came across as a douche when it was in fact you who initiated aggressive tendencies by (without much basis) telling me to grow up and fuck off - I thought it interesting that someone trying to come from the high ground and be more mature told someone they didn't even know to fuck off, but I simply dismissed it as you were a jackass...come to find out, I was the douche in this situation, who knew?

Look, I'm sure you're like the coolest guy ever. After all you're running around an internet wrestling website calling people out from behind a computer screen and talking about real fight - and I'm not sure but I think you inadvertently admitted to having crabs at one point or another...again, all signs of a winner. So I'll just concede to your points - I need to mature, I need to fuck off, and I'll work on this being a douche...in return, how about you run along now and quit wasting the precious seconds it takes for me to read your drivel. I think many of us here would appreciate it.

[Tazz Dan]

TheOneVersionOne ILoveYou

[HBPunk]

Not to jump bla bla would appreciate it.

now i know you are a douche. you talk like this so you can have hero status on a wrestling forum. thats cool man and if its important to you then i hope you get to the very top of your field, as retarded as it is. you are right tho, i am pretty fucking sweet. im sorry i come across aggressive cos i curse a lot but im really not trying to most the time. except for the aforementioned 'douche' comment. i didnt really want u to respond to it either, just wanted you to take a look at yourself and realise how sad you are. im just here to help sweetcheeks, chin up son

[HBPunk]

TheOneVersionOne ILoveYou

awww look how happy you made this faceless nobody :) i guess thats some comfort

[Tazz Dan]

lol

[MoFo]

The Miz Na
John Cena Ya
Randy Orton Ya
Wade Barrett Na
Triple H Ya
Batista Ya
Sheamus Ya
CM Punk Na

SmackDown!
Kane Na
The Undertaker Ya
Jack Swagger Na
Edge Ya
Chris Jericho Ya
Rey Mysterio Ya

[St. Jimmy]

The Miz is cancer.