View Full Version : Live SmackDown Tonight! 21 December 2010
Swiss Ultimate
12-21-2010, 05:39 PM
What's it all about, yo?
St. Jimmy
12-21-2010, 05:40 PM
no ty
Cool King
12-21-2010, 05:50 PM
Does this mean that they'll be no SmackDown on Friday?
Swiss Ultimate
12-21-2010, 05:52 PM
I guess.
Hmm...JIMMY! Don't you want to see Ziggy VS. Cena 2?
Londoner
12-21-2010, 05:52 PM
Already mentioned it in the 100,000 thread, i only just knew about it tonight though.
Does this mean that they'll be no SmackDown on Friday?
They're replaying it I think.
Swiss Ultimate
12-21-2010, 06:01 PM
should be fun
HBPunk
12-21-2010, 06:11 PM
nice date there dude
Londoner
12-21-2010, 06:17 PM
lol
Swiss Ultimate
12-21-2010, 06:25 PM
I'm in the military, that's pretty much how we do dates.
27DEC10 is how I was going to do it but, you guys would have been confused.
HBPunk
12-21-2010, 06:32 PM
I'm in the military, that's pretty much how we do dates.
27DEC10 is how I was going to do it but, you guys would have been confused.
Yeah thats why i was confused. nothing to do with today being the 21st or anything!
Swiss Ultimate
12-21-2010, 06:34 PM
:o sorry for the confusion.
HBPunk
12-21-2010, 06:34 PM
Also how early did you drop out of high school? is there a rule in the military that you must have a kindergarten education?
Swiss Ultimate
12-21-2010, 06:35 PM
Also how early did you drop out of high school? is there a rule in the military that you must have a kindergarten education?
No, how could we fight our wars for oils if that were the case?
HBPunk
12-21-2010, 06:37 PM
oh dear, that may have been a tad over your head. never mind, carry on marching or shaving your head or whatever you guys do (69 eachother probably)
Swiss Ultimate
12-21-2010, 06:51 PM
lol @ HBPunk trying to be witty.
Seriously though, my mistake was a simple brain-fart. You not understanding my "answer" to your "question" is sheer idiocy.
HBPunk
12-21-2010, 07:04 PM
lol @ HBPunk trying to be witty.
Seriously though, my mistake was a simple brain-fart. You not understanding my "answer" to your "question" is sheer idiocy.
ok then ill explain it clearly so even a dumbass army clown like you can understand. my 'question' wasnt a question. it was clearly a dig at the fact that you are a high school drop out and therefore your only option is to join the military. i was exaggerating about kindergarten because you military folk are sometimes even that slow and stupid. your answer here clearly proves my point so thank you. at ease
HBPunk
12-21-2010, 07:06 PM
No, how could we fight our wars for oils if that were the case?
or was this an attempt at humour?!
Swiss Ultimate
12-21-2010, 07:06 PM
Kindergarten isn't in highschool. So you're "digging" at me for "dropping out" and then asking me if "kindergarten" is required to join up.
Hmmm...
So...yeah, you're still the dumbest poster in the wrestling forum.
HBPunk
12-21-2010, 07:11 PM
Kindergarten isn't in highschool. So you're "digging" at me for "dropping out" and then asking me if "kindergarten" is required to join up.
Hmmm...
So...yeah, you're still the dumbest poster in the wrestling forum.
:| . . . . just. . wow. err im just going over here now. you enjoy smackdown and remember this is all choreographed...i mean the results are predetermin...its fake. xxx
HBPunk
12-21-2010, 07:12 PM
i need a smoke
Providence Peep
12-21-2010, 07:16 PM
Hey HBPunk, when you were a baby how many times were you dropped on your head?
HBPunk
12-21-2010, 07:18 PM
Hey HBPunk, when you were a baby how many times were you dropped on your head?
You must be a fuckin moron too then. fair enough, there are a lot here
Swiss Ultimate
12-21-2010, 07:21 PM
Will explain in detail how and why your comment was stupidly unfunny.
Ahem.
Kindergarten starts first, it's the beginning of grade school or elementary school. We follow that up with middle-school or junior high. This differs according to region. Then we move onto high-school.
Now, if your insult was, "Did you drop out of Kindergarten? I thought a highschool education was required by the military." Your comment, though unfunny and unimaginative, would have been logical.
However, you started with the high-school drop-out comment and then preceded to ask if a Kingergarten education was neccessary to join the military.
Dumb as you are, I chose to answer with a "stupid" joke about "wars for oils" which you failed to get. You even admitted that you didn't get it with your "omg" reaction.
I just don't see the point in you, of all people, attempting to troll me? I'm sure you won't realize it but, you're out of your depth. Don't think I don't think you're stupid, I really do think that. There is no need to prove it further.
HBPunk
12-21-2010, 07:24 PM
I just don't see the point in you, of all people, attempting to troll me? I'm sure you won't realize it but, you're out of your depth
Nobody forced you to type that but you did and you definately believe it :) Awesome.
My earlier point was that a Kindergarten drop out would still be considered for the military such is the level of stupidity there. Im almost feeling sorry for you at this stage. You are the greatest moron iv ever seen on the internet
Man, HBPunk has got to be the coolest guy on the Internet.
HBPunk
12-21-2010, 07:25 PM
you miss my point over and over and now im expecting a larger post from you as you continue to dig that giant hole you are standing in
HBPunk
12-21-2010, 07:26 PM
Man, HBPunk has got to be the coolest guy on the Internet.
i have been posting here for almost 20 mins so of course here comes my stalker. hello again juan. comment on many of my posts today? you fuckin loser
Swiss Ultimate
12-21-2010, 07:27 PM
Seriously, you don't need to press the issue. I get it. You're a product of fetal alcohol syndrome.
Razzamajazz
12-21-2010, 07:28 PM
what a great thread this has turned out to be
HBPunk
12-21-2010, 07:28 PM
Seriously, you don't need to press the issue. I get it. You're a product of fetal alcohol syndrome.
good job, you googled that in only 6 minutes!
HBPunk
12-21-2010, 07:29 PM
Hey HBPunk, when you were a baby how many times were you dropped on your head?
you are 33??! wow
SOCCER LEGS
12-21-2010, 07:29 PM
i have been posting here for almost 20 mins so of course here comes my stalker. hello again juan. comment on many of my posts today? you fuckin loser
why u mad
HBPunk
12-21-2010, 07:30 PM
SOOOO...Smackdown then
Ziggler vs Cena was awesome lastnight
HBPunk
12-21-2010, 07:30 PM
why u mad
if i say fuck its not in anger, its a fucking word
i have been posting here for almost 20 mins so of course here comes my stalker. hello again juan. comment on many of my posts today? you fuckin loser
I have an alarm that goes off every time a filthy fog breather makes a stupid post.
SOCCER LEGS
12-21-2010, 07:33 PM
if i say fuck its not in anger, its a fucking word
lol u mad as hell
HBPunk
12-21-2010, 07:33 PM
I have an alarm that goes off every time a filthy fog breather makes a stupid post.
I bet the alarm is deep in your asshole too sweetcheeks
Providence Peep
12-21-2010, 07:38 PM
Punk, are you trying to get yourself banned from here?
HBPunk
12-21-2010, 07:38 PM
nah im out, laters
owenbrown
12-21-2010, 07:47 PM
Punk, are you trying to get yourself banned from here?
lol
St. Jimmy
12-21-2010, 07:48 PM
I can't even keep up trolling at the HBPunk level.
owenbrown
12-21-2010, 07:49 PM
if only I had banning powers lol
owenbrown
12-21-2010, 07:50 PM
I can't even keep up trolling at the HBPunk level.
don't think anyone can, St. Jimmy
RKO'em
12-21-2010, 08:29 PM
I hope they continue the Punk/Cena stuff tonight and not wait til Raw
Swiss Ultimate
12-21-2010, 08:57 PM
My earlier point was that a Kindergarten drop out would still be considered for the military such is the level of stupidity there. Im almost feeling sorry for you at this stage. You are the greatest moron iv ever seen on the internet
No, it wasn't. No, I'm not.
You're not troll enough to troll me.
Swiss Ultimate
12-21-2010, 08:58 PM
I was under the impression it would still be on Syfy. Apparently, it's on USA. Weird.
RawRocks
12-21-2010, 09:01 PM
They should do this live Smackcrap thing more often.. i'd watch more often if it were.
RawRocks
12-21-2010, 09:03 PM
Orton vs Miz to start it.. wow
Shadow
12-21-2010, 09:05 PM
Looks like we've got ourselves with a...blockbuster match.
Providence Peep
12-21-2010, 09:05 PM
Starting off Smackdown with a match between two Raw Superstars :lol:
Hey, is that the same "We Hate Cena" guy from last night?
Shadow
12-21-2010, 09:07 PM
I love how we're playing pinball with the Miz for awhile there. That was Awesome.
RKO'em
12-21-2010, 09:11 PM
Hey, is that the same "We Hate Cena" guy from last night?
YEAP
Cool King
12-21-2010, 09:12 PM
Hey, is that the same "We Hate Cena" guy from last night?
Yeah, he wants another hug.
Corndad
12-21-2010, 09:13 PM
Another Hott Crowd tonight it seems.
Anybody Thrilla
12-21-2010, 09:14 PM
This looks like Raw with a blue skin.
Cool King
12-21-2010, 09:15 PM
Actually, Rob Van Dam is the only MITB Winner to not cash in on a vulnerable champion.
Shadow
12-21-2010, 09:18 PM
THE VIPER IS COILING!
Shadow
12-21-2010, 09:21 PM
Hey it's Santa Show!
Corndad
12-21-2010, 09:22 PM
I like Santa's Little Helper! :naughty:
Anybody Thrilla
12-21-2010, 09:23 PM
I like Santa's Little Helper! :naughty:
I've seen Hornswoggle live. He's not that cute in person.
Corndad
12-21-2010, 09:28 PM
Well at least they are getting all they can out of that Huge Santa suit rental lol
Shadow
12-21-2010, 09:31 PM
Here comes CAWdy Rhodes.
Evil Vito
12-21-2010, 09:32 PM
<font color=goldenrod>All I want for Christmas is Rosa Mendes</font> :(
Swiss Ultimate
12-21-2010, 09:32 PM
Big Show promoting Knucklehead....
So...
RawRocks
12-21-2010, 09:33 PM
i love Cody Rhodes
Corndad
12-21-2010, 09:33 PM
Little late there eh Cody?
Providence Peep
12-21-2010, 09:34 PM
Was the chair supposed to break?
RawRocks
12-21-2010, 09:42 PM
EXCUSE ME!
EXCUSE ME!
EXCUSE ME!
EXCUSE ME!
Cool King
12-21-2010, 09:45 PM
Santino & Kozlov are great. :lol:
Anybody Thrilla
12-21-2010, 09:45 PM
Is it weird that I love Santino and Kozlov right now?
dronepool
12-21-2010, 09:45 PM
Since I can speak Russian, Kozlovs accent when he said "WHHHAT?" cracked me up.
Beth Phoenix Fan
12-21-2010, 09:45 PM
kozlov got lucky
Volare
12-21-2010, 09:46 PM
Santino & Kozlov are great. :lol:
Kozlov has been quite entertaining lately, and it's good to see he can keep up with Santino.
bigslimjj
12-21-2010, 09:48 PM
Koztino = Ratings.
Volare
12-21-2010, 09:49 PM
Job-o Guerrero....ffs. :nono:
Cool King
12-21-2010, 09:52 PM
Cole said he loves the cobra. *immature laugh*
Aguakate
12-21-2010, 09:54 PM
...Cole and Matthews seem to be ganging up on Striker, making him look bad.
The Naitch
12-21-2010, 09:55 PM
fuck I don't think it's on here in Canada tonight. Gotta wait til' Friday. Gay
bigslimjj
12-21-2010, 10:10 PM
The WWE must think I'm stupid.They keep showing Cena protect Barrett with the huge table or whatever the hell it was,then dropping the chairs onto said table. Wouldn't it make more sense to cut out the placement of it? You know to make it seem more realistic. Maybe I'm being nitpicky.
Aguakate
12-21-2010, 10:12 PM
Wow, Kaval was squashed.
BizarroKing
12-21-2010, 10:13 PM
Vince just go ahead and release him, I know you want to, and I'm not even joking about that. That pretty much proves he has no future in wwe and no push planned.
parkmania
12-21-2010, 10:13 PM
So is tonight's show supposed to help sell people on watching Smackdown on Syfy Friday nights? Because if so, they're doing a shitty job of it.
The Naitch
12-21-2010, 10:14 PM
funny how the guys that didn't win any of the NXT seasons are doing better than Kaval
Aguakate
12-21-2010, 10:15 PM
What tonight proves is just how weak Smackdown is, in comparison to RAW.
And running it the night after RAW doesn't help, 'cause people see the big contrast between the 2 shows.
Cool King
12-21-2010, 10:17 PM
I can't wait for WWE The Music Volume 11. I'm sure Del Rio's theme will be on it.
Aguakate
12-21-2010, 10:18 PM
Last Sunday, 2 talents "arrived": John Morrison, and Alberto Del Rio. Let's see what WWE does with them going forward.
bigslimjj
12-21-2010, 10:19 PM
Someone should start at thread translating what del rio's announcer is saying "En espanol".I bet it's some funny stuff.
Cool King
12-21-2010, 10:21 PM
It was only one table, Cole. One table.
Aguakate
12-21-2010, 10:21 PM
Someone should start at thread translating what del rio's announcer is saying "En espanol".I bet it's some funny stuff.
Tonight he said:
"Everybody STAND UP! I am going to present to you, this great man. The man who, when the show is over, you will be begging for his autograph. He is the pride of Mexico. He is the Essence of Excellence. He is Albertooooooo Deeeeeeel Riiiiiiiooooooo!"
bigslimjj
12-21-2010, 10:23 PM
Tonight he said:
"Everybody STAND UP! I am going to present to you, this great man. The man who, when the show is over, you will be begging for his autograph. He is the pride of Mexico. He is the Essence of Excellence. He is Albertooooooo Deeeeeeel Riiiiiiiooooooo!"See...funny stuff.:D I wonder if jack Swagger reads TPWW?:lol:
MIZantine Empire
12-21-2010, 10:33 PM
haha just watching it, seeing as how i am in arizona, i get all the shows after everybody.. but did anyone catch strikers weed reference? on a double replay he said lets take two hits and pass..im still lmfao.
crusnik
12-21-2010, 10:51 PM
Koztino = Ratings.
:y: lol
Cool King
12-21-2010, 11:07 PM
Yes! Punk!
Volare
12-21-2010, 11:07 PM
I want a gif of Vickie shaking the ropes like Warrior.
Emperor Smeat
12-21-2010, 11:08 PM
Wow Punk's soda must have been really special to continue to beat up Cena another night. :shifty:
Even though Cena won, the match with Ziggler was pretty good.
Ziggler actually makes me want to watch John Cena
Nick Nemeth is nothing short of a miracle worker.
Volare
12-21-2010, 11:08 PM
Punk saves Smackdown once again.
The Naitch
12-21-2010, 11:09 PM
fuck I'm missing this shit. Stupid Canada
Lara Emily
12-21-2010, 11:10 PM
Wow Punk's soda must have been really special to continue to beat up Cena another night. :shifty:
Even though Cena won, the match with Ziggler was pretty good.
God I hope that;s why he's doing this that'd be awesome
bigslimjj
12-21-2010, 11:11 PM
haha just watching it, seeing as how i am in arizona, i get all the shows after everybody.. but did anyone catch strikers weed reference? on a double replay he said lets take two hits and pass..im still lmfao.Lol yea i caught that too.Ironiclly enough while smoking a bowl.:D I think that Punk's "soda" line was so good,that they decided to make a storyline out of it. If that's the case it's on par with Edge vs. Booker T. a.k.a. "That's my shampoo commercial sucka!"
Lara Emily
12-21-2010, 11:12 PM
I really hate forced kissing of heel women on TV. It totally sends the message that if you don't like a girl just sexually assault her, she deserves it.
The Naitch
12-21-2010, 11:12 PM
hey Lara, do you know if it's on tonight in Canada? Last time I checked today during Right After Wrestling, Renee Paquette said that Smackdown! will be on Friday. No mention of it being on tonight.
Supreme Olajuwon
12-21-2010, 11:14 PM
I really hate forced kissing of heel women on TV. It totally sends the message that if you don't like a girl just sexually assault her, she deserves it.
You're watching a show that sends the message that you should solve all your problems with violence. Come on, lady.
The Naitch
12-21-2010, 11:14 PM
So seriously, is Cena the guy that wronged him? Is it really Diet Soda related? Or will this be a side feud before the main feud? I thought they'd go with Edge (since he injured Punk at Bragging Rights) as the real guy who wronged him.
MIZantine Empire
12-21-2010, 11:17 PM
Lol yea i caught that too.Ironiclly enough while smoking a bowl.:D I think that Punk's "soda" line was so good,that they decided to make a storyline out of it. If that's the case it's on par with Edge vs. Booker T. a.k.a. "That's my shampoo commercial sucka!"
hope this leads to a "diet pepsi on a pole" match
I really hate forced kissing of heel women on TV. It totally sends the message that if you don't like a girl just sexually assault her, she deserves it.
vickie wouldnt have been assaulted if she would not have left the kitchen.....
Lara Emily
12-21-2010, 11:19 PM
hey Lara, do you know if it's on tonight in Canada? Last time I checked today during Right After Wrestling, Renee Paquette said that Smackdown! will be on Friday. No mention of it being on tonight.
I watched a stream
Swiss Ultimate
12-21-2010, 11:20 PM
I really hate forced kissing of heel women on TV. It totally sends the message that if you don't like a girl just sexually assault her, she deserves it.
Wait...that message is incorrect?
Lara Emily
12-21-2010, 11:40 PM
Wait...that message is incorrect?
Yes sorry to be the one to deliver you that shocking news. Don't worry you're just one of millions who didn't know that so ya aren't alone
Swiss Ultimate
12-21-2010, 11:47 PM
Yes sorry to be the one to deliver you that shocking news. Don't worry you're just one of millions who didn't know that so ya aren't alone
Do they make "sorry I raped you" cards???
Shit, I'm going to have to let everyone down in the dungeon go...
Well, Hector will stay. I can't go cold turkey after all.
Lara Emily
12-21-2010, 11:51 PM
Do they make "sorry I raped you" cards???
Shit, I'm going to have to let everyone down in the dungeon go...
Well, Hector will stay. I can't go cold turkey after all.
I believe they do, I think they're called "Rapist Sent to Jail" Newspaper headlines, I hear they're very hard to come by
Swiss Ultimate
12-21-2010, 11:59 PM
Well you know, it IS Christmas.
Lara Emily
12-22-2010, 12:01 AM
Well you know, it IS Christmas.
i actually think more people believe in Santa than rape victims.
Swiss Ultimate
12-22-2010, 12:10 AM
Lara, I hope you're just down in the dumps because you're still recovering. Maybe in the Middle East and Africa...and obviously the Vatican and maybe China...maybe they believe that.
In North America we have a proud tradition of being the victim, even when there is no call for it. The prevailing cultural attitudes towards crimes against women is thankfully negative. Is there still ignorance? Of course, and as long as we're human there always will be.
Merry Christmas. Cheer up kiddo.
Supreme Olajuwon
12-22-2010, 12:11 AM
Also, it's a show about pretend violence. It's not supposed to be a beacon of enlightenment.
Lara Emily
12-22-2010, 12:12 AM
Lara, I hope you're just down in the dumps because you're still recovering. Maybe in the Middle East and Africa...and obviously the Vatican and maybe China...maybe they believe that.
In North America we have a proud tradition of being the victim, even when there is no call for it. The prevailing cultural attitudes towards crimes against women is thankfully negative. Is there still ignorance? Of course, and as long as we're human there always will be.
Merry Christmas. Cheer up kiddo.
I was overstating the issue for effect. I do feel there is still very much a rape culture in North America (not necessarily always overt) but that's a discussion not for the wrestling forum.
Lara Emily
12-22-2010, 12:13 AM
Also, it's a show about pretend violence. It's not supposed to be a beacon of enlightenment.
It's still shitty.
Jeritron
12-22-2010, 12:17 AM
I wouldn't be concerned with the messages wrestling sends, or it's a whole can of worms.
Heel female managers also promote "controlling men to get what you want."
Finding issues pertaining to genders and violence in wrestling is like shooting fish in a barrel. It's beyond being an exaggeration.
Lara Emily
12-22-2010, 12:19 AM
I wouldn't be concerned with the messages wrestling sends, or it's a whole can of worms.
Heel female managers also promote "controlling men to get what you want."
Finding issues pertaining to genders and violence in wrestling is like shooting fish in a barrel. It's beyond being an exaggeration.
Yeah but this one is just really overt. And Heels are supposed to be bad. That's why they're heels, you're supposed to disapprove of what they do. Here people are cheering sexual assault it's different, the commentators are all like yeah he's a real man. Fucked up.
Jeritron
12-22-2010, 12:25 AM
I agree. But it's also fucked up to break down a rival of yours' front door with a sledgehammer and try to smash their brains in, or try to run them over with a zamboni.
None of this is behavior I would engage in. It comes from heels and faces alike.
You do have a point though. I can tell you I've never really marked for such a thing, personally. It doesn't make a hell of a lot of sense.
Now dropping a people's elbow, that's a different story.
Supreme Olajuwon
12-22-2010, 12:28 AM
Really getting fed up with the xenophobia in wrestling. Making foreigners the bad guy. Just appalling. :n:
SlickyTrickyDamon
12-22-2010, 12:30 AM
Me and Xero got like 10 comments totally past the WWE NXT chat filter. Fink answered two of my questions tonight!
Woo!!
Jeritron
12-22-2010, 12:33 AM
Were any of them about tag team wrestling? Fink says it's dead
I was actually thinking how fucked up it was for the face to be doing that when I saw it, but still, it's not out of the norm for wrestling at all. Even in the PG era, it's all about the lulz.
I had a bigger problem with them bothering Vickie about her weight. We saw what happened with Mickie when she didn't change, but Vickie has lost A LOT of weight over the past year or so and looks a lot better than she did. They played it up a bit before, but they never played up her fatness to these levels until, ironically, she starts losing it.
What does that tell kids who look up to Cena and even Lawler? That you should always bully someone because of their appearance? Yeah, great job.
I don't care THAT much, mind you, but it's an equally valid problem.
lol that chat was awesome. I got a line in about Bordus Clay looking like One Man Gang and JBL lending Del Rio his gimmick.
Jeritron
12-22-2010, 12:44 AM
I noticed and was pretty suprised by them having Cena make fun of a girl for being fat. It's not suprising for WWE to do, but it's almost always through a heel. Not the company's Wheaties box face.
Yeah, the fact that Cena doing it was the biggest out of place thing for me. He was getting some hardcore shots in on her and was being a pretty big dick about it, which is completely out of character for Cena post-05.
Lara Emily
12-22-2010, 01:44 AM
I was actually thinking how fucked up it was for the face to be doing that when I saw it, but still, it's not out of the norm for wrestling at all. Even in the PG era, it's all about the lulz.
I had a bigger problem with them bothering Vickie about her weight. We saw what happened with Mickie when she didn't change, but Vickie has lost A LOT of weight over the past year or so and looks a lot better than she did. They played it up a bit before, but they never played up her fatness to these levels until, ironically, she starts losing it.
What does that tell kids who look up to Cena and even Lawler? That you should always bully someone because of their appearance? Yeah, great job.
I don't care THAT much, mind you, but it's an equally valid problem.
Yup and that whole promo fucking sucked because of it. That bothered me as well, really I just don't like what they do with women in the WWE. I mean let's be real people don't go to shows for hot women, they could litterally treat women with respect and still have the same crowds, same ratings same everything. Shit if they did something with women wrestlers that mattered, like say created a legit division with legit competition you might even draw in people who would otherwise not be into wrestling. There's just no point to the way they treat women.
And for the record even if they did make tons of money degrading women I'd still be pissed off and wishing they'd stop it
Jeritron
12-22-2010, 02:13 AM
How can you say society is mysoginistic and a rape-culture, and then say that the WWE objectifies hot women with no endgame?
They are an entertainment business, so if you maintain that people are rape-thirsty, then there quite clearly would be a difference in crowds/ratings, no?
These kinds of things never even cross my mind when I'm watching wrestling. Makes it more entertaining, I think.
Aguakate
12-22-2010, 02:21 AM
Talk about over-analyzing.
These kinds of things never even cross my mind when I'm watching wrestling. Makes it more entertaining, I think.
You get your enjoyment out of watching, I get MORE out of it by also analyzing.
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Lock Jaw
12-22-2010, 02:47 AM
Edge just spent several months having kidnapped a man's father, tortured him, and then ultimately set him up to die. Somehow he was the face.
Lara Emily
12-22-2010, 03:25 AM
How can you say society is mysoginistic and a rape-culture, and then say that the WWE objectifies hot women with no endgame?
They are an entertainment business, so if you maintain that people are rape-thirsty, then there quite clearly would be a difference in crowds/ratings, no?
No I'd say that people cheer these things would be an indication and in this case I doubt it because the women are treated as so unimportant that as a result most people view them as so. So taking them out no one would notice.
Lara Emily
12-22-2010, 03:28 AM
You get your enjoyment out of watching, I get MORE out of it by also analyzing.
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I'm with ya, I fully believe in generally analyzing everything. I like things more when I can admit it's faults as well as it's awesomeness.
For example wrestling
Likes: awesome athletic matches, good story telling (still happens from time to time)
Dislikes: Misogynistic treatment of their female on screen talent (calling them Divas is annoying to me even), bad story telling (happens more than I'd like)
There's more likes and dislikes but that's the gist of it.
Jeritron
12-22-2010, 04:36 AM
American wrestling is by and large a sideshow, even if it's come a long way and has moments of greatness.
There are a lot of elements to the business that are like that, not just it's treatment of women. If you are going to call out the misogynistic treatment of females (which I'm not denying. It's quite clear), then you also have to look further.
Fat people, midgets, short or scrawny people, foreigners, and the list goes on. Even men are treated as objects, to a certain degree.
There is also a general presence of violent and inappropriate behavior. Base humor and humiliation, or primal displays of anger, etc. It's not exclusive to male on female.
So while you may be right, I don't see why you're focusing solely on that content issue with your dislikes.
Jeritron
12-22-2010, 04:44 AM
I don't have any problem with the content of wrestling. It's make believe, and even if it's inappropriate and base at times, it's too absurd to view as problematic. It's totally harmless.
I don't see how any properly raised person would beat someone with a sledgehammer or assault a woman anymore than they would drop an anvil on someone's head after watching Looney Tunes.
If I was going to worry myself with the way people are treated in wrestling, I'd be more concerned with what goes on behind the curtain, rather than in front of it.
Swiss Ultimate
12-22-2010, 02:36 PM
I was actually thinking how fucked up it was for the face to be doing that when I saw it, but still, it's not out of the norm for wrestling at all. Even in the PG era, it's all about the lulz.
I had a bigger problem with them bothering Vickie about her weight. We saw what happened with Mickie when she didn't change, but Vickie has lost A LOT of weight over the past year or so and looks a lot better than she did. They played it up a bit before, but they never played up her fatness to these levels until, ironically, she starts losing it.
What does that tell kids who look up to Cena and even Lawler? That you should always bully someone because of their appearance? Yeah, great job.
I don't care THAT much, mind you, but it's an equally valid problem.
Babyface Lawler is a horrible person. He's nicer as a heel.
Lara Emily
12-22-2010, 07:42 PM
American wrestling is by and large a sideshow, even if it's come a long way and has moments of greatness.
There are a lot of elements to the business that are like that, not just it's treatment of women. If you are going to call out the misogynistic treatment of females (which I'm not denying. It's quite clear), then you also have to look further.
Fat people, midgets, short or scrawny people, foreigners, and the list goes on. Even men are treated as objects, to a certain degree.
There is also a general presence of violent and inappropriate behavior. Base humor and humiliation, or primal displays of anger, etc. It's not exclusive to male on female.
So while you may be right, I don't see why you're focusing solely on that content issue with your dislikes.
Because that's what was bothering me at the given moment, that's why I brought it up. I hate all that racist, sexist BS for the record.
Lara Emily
12-24-2010, 08:17 AM
Do they make "sorry I raped you" cards???
Shit, I'm going to have to let everyone down in the dungeon go...
Well, Hector will stay. I can't go cold turkey after all.
Apparently they don't make a sorry one but they do make a congratulations one :|
http://www.thefrisky.com/post/246-etsys-congratulations-you-got-bad-touched-rape-greeting-card/
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