Live SmackDown Tonight! 21 December 2010

[Swiss Ultimate]

What's it all about, yo?

[St. Jimmy]

no ty

[Cool King]

Does this mean that they'll be no SmackDown on Friday?

[Swiss Ultimate]

I guess.

Hmm...JIMMY! Don't you want to see Ziggy VS. Cena 2?

[Londoner]

Already mentioned it in the 100,000 thread, i only just knew about it tonight though.

[Xero]

Does this mean that they'll be no SmackDown on Friday?

They're replaying it I think.

[Swiss Ultimate]

should be fun

[Xero]

:y:

[HBPunk]

nice date there dude

[Londoner]

lol

[Swiss Ultimate]

I'm in the military, that's pretty much how we do dates.

27DEC10 is how I was going to do it but, you guys would have been confused.

[HBPunk]

I'm in the military, that's pretty much how we do dates.

27DEC10 is how I was going to do it but, you guys would have been confused.

Yeah thats why i was confused. nothing to do with today being the 21st or anything!

[Swiss Ultimate]

:o sorry for the confusion.

[HBPunk]

Also how early did you drop out of high school? is there a rule in the military that you must have a kindergarten education?

[Swiss Ultimate]

Also how early did you drop out of high school? is there a rule in the military that you must have a kindergarten education?

No, how could we fight our wars for oils if that were the case?

[HBPunk]

oh dear, that may have been a tad over your head. never mind, carry on marching or shaving your head or whatever you guys do (69 eachother probably)

[Swiss Ultimate]

lol @ HBPunk trying to be witty.

Seriously though, my mistake was a simple brain-fart. You not understanding my "answer" to your "question" is sheer idiocy.

[HBPunk]

lol @ HBPunk trying to be witty.

Seriously though, my mistake was a simple brain-fart. You not understanding my "answer" to your "question" is sheer idiocy.

ok then ill explain it clearly so even a dumbass army clown like you can understand. my 'question' wasnt a question. it was clearly a dig at the fact that you are a high school drop out and therefore your only option is to join the military. i was exaggerating about kindergarten because you military folk are sometimes even that slow and stupid. your answer here clearly proves my point so thank you. at ease

[HBPunk]

No, how could we fight our wars for oils if that were the case?

or was this an attempt at humour?!

[Swiss Ultimate]

Kindergarten isn't in highschool. So you're "digging" at me for "dropping out" and then asking me if "kindergarten" is required to join up.

Hmmm...

So...yeah, you're still the dumbest poster in the wrestling forum.

[HBPunk]

Kindergarten isn't in highschool. So you're "digging" at me for "dropping out" and then asking me if "kindergarten" is required to join up.

Hmmm...

So...yeah, you're still the dumbest poster in the wrestling forum.

:| . . . . just. . wow. err im just going over here now. you enjoy smackdown and remember this is all choreographed...i mean the results are predetermin...its fake. xxx

[HBPunk]

i need a smoke

[Providence Peep]

Hey HBPunk, when you were a baby how many times were you dropped on your head?

[HBPunk]

Hey HBPunk, when you were a baby how many times were you dropped on your head?

You must be a fuckin moron too then. fair enough, there are a lot here

[Swiss Ultimate]

Will explain in detail how and why your comment was stupidly unfunny.

Ahem.

Kindergarten starts first, it's the beginning of grade school or elementary school. We follow that up with middle-school or junior high. This differs according to region. Then we move onto high-school.

Now, if your insult was, "Did you drop out of Kindergarten? I thought a highschool education was required by the military." Your comment, though unfunny and unimaginative, would have been logical.

However, you started with the high-school drop-out comment and then preceded to ask if a Kingergarten education was neccessary to join the military.

Dumb as you are, I chose to answer with a "stupid" joke about "wars for oils" which you failed to get. You even admitted that you didn't get it with your "omg" reaction.

I just don't see the point in you, of all people, attempting to troll me? I'm sure you won't realize it but, you're out of your depth. Don't think I don't think you're stupid, I really do think that. There is no need to prove it further.

[HBPunk]

I just don't see the point in you, of all people, attempting to troll me? I'm sure you won't realize it but, you're out of your depth

Nobody forced you to type that but you did and you definately believe it :) Awesome.

My earlier point was that a Kindergarten drop out would still be considered for the military such is the level of stupidity there. Im almost feeling sorry for you at this stage. You are the greatest moron iv ever seen on the internet

[Juan]

Man, HBPunk has got to be the coolest guy on the Internet.

[HBPunk]

you miss my point over and over and now im expecting a larger post from you as you continue to dig that giant hole you are standing in

[HBPunk]

Man, HBPunk has got to be the coolest guy on the Internet.

i have been posting here for almost 20 mins so of course here comes my stalker. hello again juan. comment on many of my posts today? you fuckin loser

[Swiss Ultimate]

Seriously, you don't need to press the issue. I get it. You're a product of fetal alcohol syndrome.

[Razzamajazz]

what a great thread this has turned out to be

[HBPunk]

Seriously, you don't need to press the issue. I get it. You're a product of fetal alcohol syndrome.

good job, you googled that in only 6 minutes!

[HBPunk]

Hey HBPunk, when you were a baby how many times were you dropped on your head?

you are 33??! wow

[SOCCER LEGS]

i have been posting here for almost 20 mins so of course here comes my stalker. hello again juan. comment on many of my posts today? you fuckin loser

why u mad

[HBPunk]

SOOOO...Smackdown then

Ziggler vs Cena was awesome lastnight

[HBPunk]

why u mad

if i say fuck its not in anger, its a fucking word

[Juan]

i have been posting here for almost 20 mins so of course here comes my stalker. hello again juan. comment on many of my posts today? you fuckin loser

I have an alarm that goes off every time a filthy fog breather makes a stupid post.

[SOCCER LEGS]

if i say fuck its not in anger, its a fucking word

lol u mad as hell

[HBPunk]

I have an alarm that goes off every time a filthy fog breather makes a stupid post.

I bet the alarm is deep in your asshole too sweetcheeks

[Providence Peep]

Punk, are you trying to get yourself banned from here?

[HBPunk]

nah im out, laters

[owenbrown]

Punk, are you trying to get yourself banned from here?

lol

[St. Jimmy]

I can't even keep up trolling at the HBPunk level.

[owenbrown]

if only I had banning powers lol

[owenbrown]

I can't even keep up trolling at the HBPunk level.

don't think anyone can, St. Jimmy

[RKO'em]

I hope they continue the Punk/Cena stuff tonight and not wait til Raw

[Swiss Ultimate]

My earlier point was that a Kindergarten drop out would still be considered for the military such is the level of stupidity there. Im almost feeling sorry for you at this stage. You are the greatest moron iv ever seen on the internet

No, it wasn't. No, I'm not.

You're not troll enough to troll me.

[Swiss Ultimate]

I was under the impression it would still be on Syfy. Apparently, it's on USA. Weird.

[RawRocks]

They should do this live Smackcrap thing more often.. i'd watch more often if it were.

[RawRocks]

Orton vs Miz to start it.. wow

[Shadow]

Looks like we've got ourselves with a...blockbuster match.

[Providence Peep]

Starting off Smackdown with a match between two Raw Superstars :lol:

[Poit]

Hey, is that the same "We Hate Cena" guy from last night?

[Shadow]

I love how we're playing pinball with the Miz for awhile there. That was Awesome.

[RKO'em]

Hey, is that the same "We Hate Cena" guy from last night?

YEAP

[Cool King]

Hey, is that the same "We Hate Cena" guy from last night?

Yeah, he wants another hug.

[Corndad]

Another Hott Crowd tonight it seems.

[Anybody Thrilla]

This looks like Raw with a blue skin.

[Cool King]

Actually, Rob Van Dam is the only MITB Winner to not cash in on a vulnerable champion.

[Shadow]

THE VIPER IS COILING!

[Shadow]

Hey it's Santa Show!

[Corndad]

I like Santa's Little Helper! :naughty:

[Anybody Thrilla]

I like Santa's Little Helper! :naughty:

I've seen Hornswoggle live. He's not that cute in person.

[Corndad]

Well at least they are getting all they can out of that Huge Santa suit rental lol

[Shadow]

Here comes CAWdy Rhodes.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>All I want for Christmas is Rosa Mendes</font> :(

[Swiss Ultimate]

Big Show promoting Knucklehead....

So...

[RawRocks]

i love Cody Rhodes

[Corndad]

Little late there eh Cody?

[Providence Peep]

Was the chair supposed to break?

[RawRocks]

EXCUSE ME!
EXCUSE ME!
EXCUSE ME!
EXCUSE ME!

[Cool King]

Santino & Kozlov are great. :lol:

[Anybody Thrilla]

Is it weird that I love Santino and Kozlov right now?

[dronepool]

Since I can speak Russian, Kozlovs accent when he said "WHHHAT?" cracked me up.

[Beth Phoenix Fan]

kozlov got lucky

[Volare]

Santino & Kozlov are great. :lol:

Kozlov has been quite entertaining lately, and it's good to see he can keep up with Santino.

[bigslimjj]

Koztino = Ratings.

[Volare]

Job-o Guerrero....ffs. :nono:

[Cool King]

Cole said he loves the cobra. *immature laugh*

[Aguakate]

...Cole and Matthews seem to be ganging up on Striker, making him look bad.

[The Naitch]

fuck I don't think it's on here in Canada tonight. Gotta wait til' Friday. Gay

[bigslimjj]

The WWE must think I'm stupid.They keep showing Cena protect Barrett with the huge table or whatever the hell it was,then dropping the chairs onto said table. Wouldn't it make more sense to cut out the placement of it? You know to make it seem more realistic. Maybe I'm being nitpicky.

[Aguakate]

Wow, Kaval was squashed.

[BizarroKing]

Vince just go ahead and release him, I know you want to, and I'm not even joking about that. That pretty much proves he has no future in wwe and no push planned.

[parkmania]

So is tonight's show supposed to help sell people on watching Smackdown on Syfy Friday nights? Because if so, they're doing a shitty job of it.

[The Naitch]

funny how the guys that didn't win any of the NXT seasons are doing better than Kaval

[Aguakate]

What tonight proves is just how weak Smackdown is, in comparison to RAW.

And running it the night after RAW doesn't help, 'cause people see the big contrast between the 2 shows.

[Cool King]

I can't wait for WWE The Music Volume 11. I'm sure Del Rio's theme will be on it.

[Aguakate]

Last Sunday, 2 talents "arrived": John Morrison, and Alberto Del Rio. Let's see what WWE does with them going forward.

[bigslimjj]

Someone should start at thread translating what del rio's announcer is saying "En espanol".I bet it's some funny stuff.

[Cool King]

It was only one table, Cole. One table.

[Aguakate]

Someone should start at thread translating what del rio's announcer is saying "En espanol".I bet it's some funny stuff.

Tonight he said:

"Everybody STAND UP! I am going to present to you, this great man. The man who, when the show is over, you will be begging for his autograph. He is the pride of Mexico. He is the Essence of Excellence. He is Albertooooooo Deeeeeeel Riiiiiiiooooooo!"

[bigslimjj]

Tonight he said:

"Everybody STAND UP! I am going to present to you, this great man. The man who, when the show is over, you will be begging for his autograph. He is the pride of Mexico. He is the Essence of Excellence. He is Albertooooooo Deeeeeeel Riiiiiiiooooooo!"See...funny stuff.:D I wonder if jack Swagger reads TPWW?:lol:

[MIZantine Empire]

haha just watching it, seeing as how i am in arizona, i get all the shows after everybody.. but did anyone catch strikers weed reference? on a double replay he said lets take two hits and pass..im still lmfao.

[crusnik]

Koztino = Ratings.

:y: lol

[Cool King]

Yes! Punk!

[Volare]

I want a gif of Vickie shaking the ropes like Warrior.

[Emperor Smeat]

Wow Punk's soda must have been really special to continue to beat up Cena another night. :shifty:

Even though Cena won, the match with Ziggler was pretty good.

[KIRA]

Ziggler actually makes me want to watch John Cena

Nick Nemeth is nothing short of a miracle worker.

[Volare]

Punk saves Smackdown once again.

[The Naitch]

fuck I'm missing this shit. Stupid Canada

[Lara Emily]

Wow Punk's soda must have been really special to continue to beat up Cena another night. :shifty:

Even though Cena won, the match with Ziggler was pretty good.

God I hope that;s why he's doing this that'd be awesome

[bigslimjj]

haha just watching it, seeing as how i am in arizona, i get all the shows after everybody.. but did anyone catch strikers weed reference? on a double replay he said lets take two hits and pass..im still lmfao.Lol yea i caught that too.Ironiclly enough while smoking a bowl.:D I think that Punk's "soda" line was so good,that they decided to make a storyline out of it. If that's the case it's on par with Edge vs. Booker T. a.k.a. "That's my shampoo commercial sucka!"

[Lara Emily]

I really hate forced kissing of heel women on TV. It totally sends the message that if you don't like a girl just sexually assault her, she deserves it.

[The Naitch]

hey Lara, do you know if it's on tonight in Canada? Last time I checked today during Right After Wrestling, Renee Paquette said that Smackdown! will be on Friday. No mention of it being on tonight.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I really hate forced kissing of heel women on TV. It totally sends the message that if you don't like a girl just sexually assault her, she deserves it.

You're watching a show that sends the message that you should solve all your problems with violence. Come on, lady.

[The Naitch]

So seriously, is Cena the guy that wronged him? Is it really Diet Soda related? Or will this be a side feud before the main feud? I thought they'd go with Edge (since he injured Punk at Bragging Rights) as the real guy who wronged him.

[MIZantine Empire]

Lol yea i caught that too.Ironiclly enough while smoking a bowl.:D I think that Punk's "soda" line was so good,that they decided to make a storyline out of it. If that's the case it's on par with Edge vs. Booker T. a.k.a. "That's my shampoo commercial sucka!"
hope this leads to a "diet pepsi on a pole" match

I really hate forced kissing of heel women on TV. It totally sends the message that if you don't like a girl just sexually assault her, she deserves it.

vickie wouldnt have been assaulted if she would not have left the kitchen.....

[Lara Emily]

hey Lara, do you know if it's on tonight in Canada? Last time I checked today during Right After Wrestling, Renee Paquette said that Smackdown! will be on Friday. No mention of it being on tonight.

I watched a stream

[Swiss Ultimate]

I really hate forced kissing of heel women on TV. It totally sends the message that if you don't like a girl just sexually assault her, she deserves it.

Wait...that message is incorrect?

[Lara Emily]

Wait...that message is incorrect?

Yes sorry to be the one to deliver you that shocking news. Don't worry you're just one of millions who didn't know that so ya aren't alone

[Swiss Ultimate]

Yes sorry to be the one to deliver you that shocking news. Don't worry you're just one of millions who didn't know that so ya aren't alone

Do they make "sorry I raped you" cards???

Shit, I'm going to have to let everyone down in the dungeon go...

Well, Hector will stay. I can't go cold turkey after all.

[Lara Emily]

Do they make "sorry I raped you" cards???

Shit, I'm going to have to let everyone down in the dungeon go...

Well, Hector will stay. I can't go cold turkey after all.

I believe they do, I think they're called "Rapist Sent to Jail" Newspaper headlines, I hear they're very hard to come by

[Swiss Ultimate]

Well you know, it IS Christmas.

[Lara Emily]

Well you know, it IS Christmas.

i actually think more people believe in Santa than rape victims.

[Swiss Ultimate]

Lara, I hope you're just down in the dumps because you're still recovering. Maybe in the Middle East and Africa...and obviously the Vatican and maybe China...maybe they believe that.

In North America we have a proud tradition of being the victim, even when there is no call for it. The prevailing cultural attitudes towards crimes against women is thankfully negative. Is there still ignorance? Of course, and as long as we're human there always will be.

Merry Christmas. Cheer up kiddo.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Also, it's a show about pretend violence. It's not supposed to be a beacon of enlightenment.

[Lara Emily]

Lara, I hope you're just down in the dumps because you're still recovering. Maybe in the Middle East and Africa...and obviously the Vatican and maybe China...maybe they believe that.

In North America we have a proud tradition of being the victim, even when there is no call for it. The prevailing cultural attitudes towards crimes against women is thankfully negative. Is there still ignorance? Of course, and as long as we're human there always will be.

Merry Christmas. Cheer up kiddo.

I was overstating the issue for effect. I do feel there is still very much a rape culture in North America (not necessarily always overt) but that's a discussion not for the wrestling forum.

[Lara Emily]

Also, it's a show about pretend violence. It's not supposed to be a beacon of enlightenment.

It's still shitty.

[Jeritron]

I wouldn't be concerned with the messages wrestling sends, or it's a whole can of worms.
Heel female managers also promote "controlling men to get what you want."
Finding issues pertaining to genders and violence in wrestling is like shooting fish in a barrel. It's beyond being an exaggeration.

[Lara Emily]

I wouldn't be concerned with the messages wrestling sends, or it's a whole can of worms.
Heel female managers also promote "controlling men to get what you want."
Finding issues pertaining to genders and violence in wrestling is like shooting fish in a barrel. It's beyond being an exaggeration.

Yeah but this one is just really overt. And Heels are supposed to be bad. That's why they're heels, you're supposed to disapprove of what they do. Here people are cheering sexual assault it's different, the commentators are all like yeah he's a real man. Fucked up.

[Jeritron]

I agree. But it's also fucked up to break down a rival of yours' front door with a sledgehammer and try to smash their brains in, or try to run them over with a zamboni.
None of this is behavior I would engage in. It comes from heels and faces alike.

You do have a point though. I can tell you I've never really marked for such a thing, personally. It doesn't make a hell of a lot of sense.
Now dropping a people's elbow, that's a different story.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Really getting fed up with the xenophobia in wrestling. Making foreigners the bad guy. Just appalling. :n:

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Me and Xero got like 10 comments totally past the WWE NXT chat filter. Fink answered two of my questions tonight!

Woo!!

[Jeritron]

Were any of them about tag team wrestling? Fink says it's dead

[Xero]

I was actually thinking how fucked up it was for the face to be doing that when I saw it, but still, it's not out of the norm for wrestling at all. Even in the PG era, it's all about the lulz.

I had a bigger problem with them bothering Vickie about her weight. We saw what happened with Mickie when she didn't change, but Vickie has lost A LOT of weight over the past year or so and looks a lot better than she did. They played it up a bit before, but they never played up her fatness to these levels until, ironically, she starts losing it.

What does that tell kids who look up to Cena and even Lawler? That you should always bully someone because of their appearance? Yeah, great job.

I don't care THAT much, mind you, but it's an equally valid problem.

[Xero]

lol that chat was awesome. I got a line in about Bordus Clay looking like One Man Gang and JBL lending Del Rio his gimmick.

[Jeritron]

I noticed and was pretty suprised by them having Cena make fun of a girl for being fat. It's not suprising for WWE to do, but it's almost always through a heel. Not the company's Wheaties box face.

[Xero]

Yeah, the fact that Cena doing it was the biggest out of place thing for me. He was getting some hardcore shots in on her and was being a pretty big dick about it, which is completely out of character for Cena post-05.

[Lara Emily]

I was actually thinking how fucked up it was for the face to be doing that when I saw it, but still, it's not out of the norm for wrestling at all. Even in the PG era, it's all about the lulz.

I had a bigger problem with them bothering Vickie about her weight. We saw what happened with Mickie when she didn't change, but Vickie has lost A LOT of weight over the past year or so and looks a lot better than she did. They played it up a bit before, but they never played up her fatness to these levels until, ironically, she starts losing it.

What does that tell kids who look up to Cena and even Lawler? That you should always bully someone because of their appearance? Yeah, great job.

I don't care THAT much, mind you, but it's an equally valid problem.

Yup and that whole promo fucking sucked because of it. That bothered me as well, really I just don't like what they do with women in the WWE. I mean let's be real people don't go to shows for hot women, they could litterally treat women with respect and still have the same crowds, same ratings same everything. Shit if they did something with women wrestlers that mattered, like say created a legit division with legit competition you might even draw in people who would otherwise not be into wrestling. There's just no point to the way they treat women.

And for the record even if they did make tons of money degrading women I'd still be pissed off and wishing they'd stop it

[Jeritron]

How can you say society is mysoginistic and a rape-culture, and then say that the WWE objectifies hot women with no endgame?
They are an entertainment business, so if you maintain that people are rape-thirsty, then there quite clearly would be a difference in crowds/ratings, no?

[Juan]

These kinds of things never even cross my mind when I'm watching wrestling. Makes it more entertaining, I think.

[Aguakate]

Talk about over-analyzing.

[Xero]

These kinds of things never even cross my mind when I'm watching wrestling. Makes it more entertaining, I think.

You get your enjoyment out of watching, I get MORE out of it by also analyzing.

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[Juan]

Easy...

[Lock Jaw]

Edge just spent several months having kidnapped a man's father, tortured him, and then ultimately set him up to die. Somehow he was the face.

[Lara Emily]

How can you say society is mysoginistic and a rape-culture, and then say that the WWE objectifies hot women with no endgame?
They are an entertainment business, so if you maintain that people are rape-thirsty, then there quite clearly would be a difference in crowds/ratings, no?

No I'd say that people cheer these things would be an indication and in this case I doubt it because the women are treated as so unimportant that as a result most people view them as so. So taking them out no one would notice.

[Lara Emily]

You get your enjoyment out of watching, I get MORE out of it by also analyzing.

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I'm with ya, I fully believe in generally analyzing everything. I like things more when I can admit it's faults as well as it's awesomeness.

For example wrestling

Likes: awesome athletic matches, good story telling (still happens from time to time)

Dislikes: Misogynistic treatment of their female on screen talent (calling them Divas is annoying to me even), bad story telling (happens more than I'd like)

There's more likes and dislikes but that's the gist of it.

[Jeritron]

American wrestling is by and large a sideshow, even if it's come a long way and has moments of greatness.
There are a lot of elements to the business that are like that, not just it's treatment of women. If you are going to call out the misogynistic treatment of females (which I'm not denying. It's quite clear), then you also have to look further.
Fat people, midgets, short or scrawny people, foreigners, and the list goes on. Even men are treated as objects, to a certain degree.
There is also a general presence of violent and inappropriate behavior. Base humor and humiliation, or primal displays of anger, etc. It's not exclusive to male on female.

So while you may be right, I don't see why you're focusing solely on that content issue with your dislikes.

[Jeritron]

I don't have any problem with the content of wrestling. It's make believe, and even if it's inappropriate and base at times, it's too absurd to view as problematic. It's totally harmless.
I don't see how any properly raised person would beat someone with a sledgehammer or assault a woman anymore than they would drop an anvil on someone's head after watching Looney Tunes.

If I was going to worry myself with the way people are treated in wrestling, I'd be more concerned with what goes on behind the curtain, rather than in front of it.

[Swiss Ultimate]

I was actually thinking how fucked up it was for the face to be doing that when I saw it, but still, it's not out of the norm for wrestling at all. Even in the PG era, it's all about the lulz.

I had a bigger problem with them bothering Vickie about her weight. We saw what happened with Mickie when she didn't change, but Vickie has lost A LOT of weight over the past year or so and looks a lot better than she did. They played it up a bit before, but they never played up her fatness to these levels until, ironically, she starts losing it.

What does that tell kids who look up to Cena and even Lawler? That you should always bully someone because of their appearance? Yeah, great job.

I don't care THAT much, mind you, but it's an equally valid problem.

Babyface Lawler is a horrible person. He's nicer as a heel.

[Lara Emily]

American wrestling is by and large a sideshow, even if it's come a long way and has moments of greatness.
There are a lot of elements to the business that are like that, not just it's treatment of women. If you are going to call out the misogynistic treatment of females (which I'm not denying. It's quite clear), then you also have to look further.
Fat people, midgets, short or scrawny people, foreigners, and the list goes on. Even men are treated as objects, to a certain degree.
There is also a general presence of violent and inappropriate behavior. Base humor and humiliation, or primal displays of anger, etc. It's not exclusive to male on female.

So while you may be right, I don't see why you're focusing solely on that content issue with your dislikes.

Because that's what was bothering me at the given moment, that's why I brought it up. I hate all that racist, sexist BS for the record.

[Lara Emily]

Do they make "sorry I raped you" cards???

Shit, I'm going to have to let everyone down in the dungeon go...

Well, Hector will stay. I can't go cold turkey after all.

Apparently they don't make a sorry one but they do make a congratulations one :|

http://www.thefrisky.com/post/246-etsys-congratulations-you-got-bad-touched-rape-greeting-card/