Hold on. *Possible Wrestlemania spoiler*

[Jeritron]

Original creative plans called for the Cena/Punk angle that kicked off on last night’s RAW to begin next month, but was bumped forward because the “Straight Edge” wrestler returns to action this weekend. The preliminary plan as of last night was that the feud would culminate at WrestleMania XXVII.


Really? Pretty awesome if there's any truth to it, but not what I was expecting at all.

[Xero]

Nice.

[Jeritron]

Cena and Punk will have an awesome match if it's given time/a good storyline, which given it being Cena and Wrestlemania season, it certainly would.

[dronepool]

This is cool if it comes to pass.

[Schlomey]

Punk deserves to have a LONG and EMOTIONAL Wrestlemania match after kicking ass in 2 Money In The Banks and dealing with a measily 7 minutes with Mysterio this past year. I am all for this to happen but since it has started early I bet it won't make it to Mania :/

[Jeritron]

I have a feeling that this would center around the same kind of conflict that Michaels/Jericho had a while back.
Punk accusing Cena of actually being a bad guy, and trying to expose him at all costs.

It would be another amazing way to build up any eventual turn.

[Jeritron]

Maybe there are still plans involving Orton, and Punk will be the instigator between the two faces.
Hmm

[Supreme Olajuwon]

That's pretty cool. So if there's plans for Punk/Cena, then that logically means they aren't planning for Taker/Cena. And I'm sure they have the Taker plans out already.

[Schlomey]

IWC SWERVE

[Jeritron]

That's pretty cool. So if there's plans for Punk/Cena, then that logically means they aren't planning for Taker/Cena. And I'm sure they have the Taker plans out already.

I've been basically convinced that they're going to wait on Cena/Taker until next year.
Plans seem to involve Barrett. There was the Lesnar offer too, which I'm sure would shoot to Plan A if he accepted. Doubtful though, which is why they definitely planted the seed for Taker/Barrett at SS.

[Jeritron]

I think Cena turning heel is officially off the table unless he's facing Orton or Taker.
They could concievably still keep the Orton feud kindling, though, with a Punk feud building towards it.
They could also plant more seeds for Punk/Danielson, and then pull the switcharoo after Elimination Chamber, and have both matchups still happen.
Who knows.

[Lara Emily]

I think Cena turning heel is officially off the table unless he's facing Orton or Taker.
They could concievably still keep the Orton feud kindling, though, with a Punk feud building towards it.
They could also plant more seeds for Punk/Danielson, and then pull the switcharoo after Elimination Chamber, and have both matchups still happen.
Who knows.

I don't think a Cana heel turn was ever on the table

[Jeritron]

I'm not saying it was planned, but any possibility would likely have come in one of those matches, at this time of year.
It's certainly seemed more likely in recent months than it ever has.

[Juan]

I have a feeling that this would center around the same kind of conflict that Michaels/Jericho had a while back.
Punk accusing Cena of actually being a bad guy, and trying to expose him at all costs.

Seems like that's what they're going for, what with Punk's comments about Cena recently. Can't wait.

If all goes well, this should solidify Punk as one of the top names in the company.

[Jeritron]

It would be really awesome to see them take that really intense approach with the storyline, which they do every year around Mania.
They could really ham up the sXe thing to heights they just don't have time for in the midcard. Like him interfering in Cena's life, etc.
The really urgent stuff they only pull this time of year.

[Jeritron]

I hate to use the word, but epic promos

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

This is Kane/Chris Jericho with coffee all over again. John Cena will learn that you don't spill CM Punk's Caffeine Free Diet Pepsi when attacking the Nexus!

[Aguakate]

This is Kane/Chris Jericho with coffee all over again. John Cena will learn that you don't spill CM Punk's Caffeine Free Diet Pepsi when attacking the Nexus!

I see WWE having Cena come out in a Pepsi truck, and spraying CM Punk with Pepsi...

...you know, in their effort to have Cena as big as Austin and them.

[Jordan]

I hope they can stretch it to Mania, but I doubt it will.

[Aguakate]

I hope they can stretch it to Mania, but I doubt it will.

WWE can do it if they really want to. Look what they did with Cena/Nexus.

[Juan]

Didn't the Punk/Mysterio feud stretch out for like 4 months? I'm sure they can do it with these two.

[Aguakate]

Also, Mysterio and Del Rio have been feuding since, what, August?

[Jeritron]

It's not really hard to stretch a January feud into Mania. They will both be in the Rumble match, and probably the Elimination Chamber.
So it's not like they'll be exhausting the one-on-one matchup until Wrestlemania, if they do this.
It will probably be built around mind games and a lot of promos, so the longer the build the better really.

[Schlomey]

If this is actually true....


I would rather have seen them wait a month and START the build the night the road to Wrestlemania starts.

I would keep CM Punk behind the RAW desk making digs at Cena as he started to do this past week.

I would build John Cena up to win the Royal Rumble only to have Punk leave the announce table and toss Cena out. The visual of Cena's "shocked monkey" face standing at ringside and CM Punks shit eating grin as he is walking backwards slowly up the ramp would HAVE FUCKING KILLED IT.

Kind of a shame.

[Aguakate]

If this is actually true....


I would rather have seen them wait a month and START the build the night the road to Wrestlemania starts.

I would keep CM Punk behind the RAW desk making digs at Cena as he started to do this past week.

I would build John Cena up to win the Royal Rumble only to have Punk leave the announce table and toss Cena out. The visual of Cena's "shocked monkey" face standing at ringside and CM Punks shit eating grin as he is walking backwards slowly up the ramp would HAVE FUCKING KILLED IT.

Kind of a shame.


After CM Punk cutting a promo as he eliminated guys from the Rumble this year, the natural next step, since he already is doing play by play, is have him eliminate guys, go to the table, do play by play, get back in the ring, and so on and so forth.

That's what I'd do, anyway.

[Schlomey]

I meant Punk will be in a suit and doing his announcer job...just slowly get up from the desk out of NOWHERE and toss out Cena. The kiddies faces would be priceless and SHOCKED.

[Aguakate]

I meant Punk will be in a suit and doing his announcer job...just slowly get up from the desk out of NOWHERE and toss out Cena. The kiddies faces would be priceless and SHOCKED.

Right...except that it wouldn't count if he's not a participant.

[Mr. Nerfect]

CM Punk is often given creative freedom with his programs. If this is the case, then I truly hope he impresses us (as I expect he will). I've always wanted to see Punk try to guilt Cena into spreading his message because Cena is a "company guy." Faces often cop-out with the "freedom of choice" thing, but none of them take being a role model as seriously as John Cena.

But I trust Punk to do something new and interesting with Cena. I haven't seen TLC or RAW, but apparently Punk has been taking Cena to task for using the force he did with Wade Barrett? It seems Punk is taking a higher moral "two wrongs don't make a right" approach, which could be intensely interesting. I love it when heels have a good point. Punk working with Cena has always been a "dream" for me, because Cena has the goods, but he seems to work with safe writing a lot of the time. The dynamic of having the freedom of a program with CM Punk could give us new angles to John Cena -- if it is allowed such freedom.

One good thing about the Elimination Chamber PPV, is that it logically allows feuds to stretch out. The two can meet in the Royal Rumble, Punk can toss out Cena; they can then meet in the Elimination Chamber, and Cena can eliminate Punk. They still have the one-on-one blow-off.

So many of the things mentioned have got so much potential in a story between the two:

* CM Punk spraying down Cena with diet soda would be absolutely amazing, and you know it.

* If Punk cuts an emotional promo where he believed Cena was a good guy even when the rest of the world turned their back on him, and shows the evidence of him being in Cena's entourage in his hometown of Chicago at WrestleMania 22 -- I would absolutely jizz myself.

* Punk could dig into footage of all the horrible things Cena has done in the past: his rapping and philandering with a married Stephanie McMahon on his early SmackDown! days; his ruthless beatings on a one-armed Carlito; giving an Attitude Adjustment to Todd Grisham; him putting Chris Jericho into a garbage truck; etc. If Punk is allowed to, I could imagine him putting such great scrutiny on the past of John Cena.

The other thing about this that makes me optimistic is that Punk vs. Cena means we won't get Cena vs. Orton. Fucking yay.

[Schlomey]

Right...except that it wouldn't count if he's not a participant.


why do you think it wouldn't count....There have been several times in RR history where non competitors or already eliminated competitors have eliminated someone and it always counted.

[GoneFishing]

Perhaps CM Punk will start calling Cena a fraud of a hero for the beating he gave Barrett after the match, then CM Punk would start advertising himself as the true "straight edge" hero Raw needs.

I learned the hard way that Cena will never ever turn heel, but this is just another great opportunity....

[Mr. Nerfect]

Right...except that it wouldn't count if he's not a participant.

The rules of the Rumble fluctuate whenever the WWE wants them to. Guys have eliminated themselves then gotten back in legally, or been eliminated another year. Some men have even been eliminated by not even going over the top rope. You've had people randomly take spots like it is legal. What was suggested is not a reach.

[Schlomey]

you learned the hard way?

[Aguakate]

...WWE needs to have another Rumble where the WWE title is vacant and the winner becomes Champion, BTW.

[GoneFishing]

you learned the hard way?

I actually bought the hype of him turning heel only to be disappointed beyond belief..... that's the hard way for me dammit.

[drmayberry7]

aguakate is so stupid

[Juan]

aguakate is so stupid

Post of the year.

[owenbrown]

aguakate is so stupid

sock or not...lol

[Jeritron]

Surpasses owenbrown on his 6th post

[Aguakate]

Post of the year.

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[Fignuts]

I don't get why anyone would hate Punk, other than the "it's cool to hate on indy wrestlers" attitude that seems to have a decent size voice on these forums. He always delivers on the mic, and his matches are pretty great too. He's no Shawn Micheals, or Ricky Steamboat, but he consistently delivers quality matches and promos. No idea why he gets so much hate on here.

[Fignuts]

IT'S GERTNERITIS I TELLS YA

[Innovator]

Punk still considered an indy wrestler? Dude has been on the main roster for over 4 years.

[Fignuts]

I know this, and that's what makes it even more retarded. People who seem to have that anti-indy attitude, seem to still identify him with the indy wrestling scene.

[jskinnyg]

PUNK + Cena = I will actually care about a Cena Wrestlemania match...

[Fignuts]

I always care about Cena Wrestlemania matches. If there is one time that you can count on him to deliver, it's at mania'.

[Wolfpack423]

If WWE officials end up making Cena/Punk a Wrestlemania match, I will be ecstatic. For one, this is a fresh feud. Yes, they have had two or three matches on tv, but they never have technically feuded and both can carry a great feud. They would have a good match and I think this would be great for both. Cena is my favorite wrestler in the industry right now and Punk has been a favorite of mine since he burst onto the WWE scene, though I have seen his ROH stuff and I liked that as well. Maybe they have bigger plans for Danielson at Wrestlemania though I still see them trying to unify the belts between Danielson and Ziggler if they keep the belts on them. If anything I can see Danielson, Orton, Morrison and Miz in the WWE championship match at Mania, HHH vs. Sheamus possibly a title match, Taker will probably face Barrett or Kane so he isn't really having an epic match this year, unless the Lesnar stuff falls through and I hope it does, Beth Phoenix vs. Natalya though I doubt that's happening because they liked to crap on the divas match at Mania, MITB and maybe a couple more matches. But Cena-Punk as a main event is fresh and I think would be a great feud.

[BizarroKing]

Anyone thinking it will be a good feud or are you majorly disappointed?

Anyone wanna assume what this rivalry is going to be about? Why do I get the feeling that it's going to be about Cena spilling Punk's diet coke?

[ron the dial]

how can i be disappointed? it hasn't even started yet. i have extremely high hopes for it, though.

[BizarroKing]

Sorry, I just now noticed this: http://www.tpww.net/forums/showthread.php?t=109456
:-\

[BizarroKing]

Why do I get the feeling this feud is going to be about Cena spilling Punk's diet coke.

[Fox]

The rules of the Rumble fluctuate whenever the WWE wants them to. Guys have eliminated themselves then gotten back in legally, or been eliminated another year. Some men have even been eliminated by not even going over the top rope. You've had people randomly take spots like it is legal. What was suggested is not a reach.

Exactly. I've boiled it down to this: If you go over the top rope and hit the floor with both feet, you are out: Period. It doesn't matter if they are in the Rumble, already eliminated, a non-participant - you go over, your feet touch, your out. Doesn't matter if you got hit with a beer can and fell over. If you are knocked out before even getting to the ring (must be legit KO'd... Austin got his ass kicked before entering the 2001 RR, but was not KO'd and eventually entered the ring and won the match, whereas I believe Spike Dudley was once Chokeslammed on the stage and never entered the ring and was counted as a non-participant). If you are "legit KO'd" and do not enter the Rumble, someone else may take your place (See: Mick Foley in 2004).

These are the rules of the Royal Rumble. They are binding and do not change (unless they do).

[Fox]

ALSO: You may enter the Royal Rumble with more than 1 number if you suffer from multiple personality syndrome. This must be proven at least 2-3 months before the Rumble, and you must have wrestled at least one match as each personality.

ALSO: Do not fuck with Kane.