Jerry Lawler - WWE Champion?

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>- Bryan Alvarez of F4Wonline.com is reporting that as of this week that a Fatal 4 Way is planned for the WWE Title match at Royal Rumble with The Miz defending his title vs Jerry Lawler, Randy Orton and John Morrison. Morrison vs Miz in a singles match was originally scheduled for Rumble but those plans were changed and that match will now take place on this Monday’s Raw. There has also been talk of possibly giving Jerry Lawler a short run with the WWE Title but nothing is set in stone at this point.

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Thoughts?

My initial reaction is "I'd like to have some of what they're smoking if they do that" but really, it's not like it'd make Miz or whoever look bad. They'd lose the belt in some fluke ending during a fatal 4 way. Not the end of the world. As long as Miz gets the belt back via killing Lawler or in a good douchebag way, it'll be fine.</font>

[Fignuts]

I love it.

[VSG]

I don't. Lawler with the belt is (hopefully) not a part of the road to Wrestlemania and should be dealt with asap and before Royal Rumble, if at all.

[Shadrick]

I like this idea. Reward Lawler for his loyalty. Dont give him too long of a run. It allows Lawler to get his shine, Miz will look like a chickenshit heel when he gets it back in a slimey fashion, JoMo can still continue to be built as the belt chaser, since he's not ready just yet, and Randy can be in the mix since he's crazy over, but wont take the belt since he needs to take it easy in lieu of taking some time off.

It seems like a win in all aspects.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>If he were to win at the Rumble, he'd almost surely drop it in the Elimination Chamber, either back to The Miz or to CM Punk (to allow Cena to once again win the belt at WM since their feud should still be going).

I'm kinda sick of those title changes at EC though, and no way should Lawler have the belt at Mania.</font>

[Aguakate]

I don't see the point of after ALL these years, NOW having Lawler as Champion. He feuded with Bret in the 90's, if they wanted him as Champion, they could've had him win the belt back then.

I think they are going to take him off the air, you know, he will not be doing play-by-play for much longer, so they are trying to, perhaps, when the time comes and they inform him he will no longer be a color commentator, he won't get mad, or as mad, since he's been kinda pushed...as if he were to become Champion, even more so.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Would be brilliant and if this match is announced, even expecting Lawler to win, I'll probably jump in celebration.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

The possibility of Lawler in an Elimination Chamber is pretty LOL.

I'd love this though. Orton doesn't need the belt now. Morrison isn't ready. I bet they do something where Lawler wins at the Rumble but then Miz finds some loophole where he gets his belt back at Raw the next night. I'm fine with it.

[James Steele]

Jerry Lawler has said numerous times that he wants to have a match at WrestleMania and has bugged Vince about it every year. If nothing else, this is all just to build up to Lawler finally having his first (last and only) match at WrestleMania.

[Tazz Dan]

Yeah I don't see The Miz holding the belt by WrestleMania, which sucks but is understandable I guess. I could quite easily buy a match between those two if they drag the feud out that long and have the blow off match for the angle then.

[Cool King]

I think it'll be a combination of what Supreme & James Steele said.

I think if Lawler were to win the WWE Title, he'd only be champion for one night. He would win it at The Royal Rumble then lose it back to The Miz the next night on Raw due to interference from someone, be it Alex Riley or even Michael Cole.

But then that would give Lawler and whoever cost him the match an angle to work with that would reach and end at WrestleMania. That way, everyone's a winner.

Lalwer becomes a WWE Champion
The Miz gets more heat for winning the title back the next night unfairly
The Miz will have the title at Elimination Chamber but most likely lose it (I imagine the chamber match consisting of The Miz, Morrison, Orton, Sheamus, Triple H and MAYBE Lawler. If not Lawler then possibly a recently returned Wade Barrett.)
Lawler will get his WrestleMania match which will be against whoever cost him the championship. If it was Cole that cost him, then it would most likely be Alex Riley he faces with Cole in his corner. (Though Cole has been recently learning to take bumps, which is a worrying sign.)
And either way, Alex Riley get's his first taste of WrestleMania.

[erickman]

yeah i like a short run for him, wish they could have figured a way for piper to get the belt for aq day or so.

[Majunior]

I do like the idea of getting Lawler his title run and Mania match.

If what was said about him coming off the air is true, and he's being removed from an on-air play-by-play role... him losing the belt via interference could lead into a Mania match where his opponent says screw the rules, opens the match by blasting Lawler with a chair for a blatant DQ, works Lawler over for like 5-6 minutes straight before some other wrestlers can get out to save Jerry... Whoever does it gets mad heat, Lawler had his title run, Mania match, a win at Mania (via the DQ), and due to the "severe injuries" Lawler is out indefinitely. Makes a happy King, makes someone like Riley (hypothetically) an even bigger heel, gives them a storyline out to remove Lawler from the air... it's a win all around.

[Londoner]

Wouldn't mind it if it wasn't the run up to wrestlemania as King's been great lately(which i can't believe i'm saying) but its just bad timing atm.

[Dave Youell]

If there's one guy who's still active that deserves it, it's him.

[Schlomey]

Jerry's title run should have happened in our around the Bret Hart feud.

[GD]

I agree with Scholmey. But I would be happy to see Jerry as the WWE Champion. Not for long of course :-\

[Ultra Mantis]

I could actually see this leading to Lawler and Daniel Bryan vs The Miz & Michael Cole at Wrestlemania.

[GD]

I am up for that Ultra Mantis :y:

[Londoner]

Anyone notice King looks alot fitter lately? Seems obvious somethings gonna happen for him.

[SaskatchewanChamp]

King wins, Cole costs him the next day at Raw setting up Cole vs King at Mania. It really is that simple.

[Schlomey]

I can see that sask.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

This sounds like a pretty stupid idea to me personally.

[Cuse8]

King wins, Cole costs him the next day at Raw setting up Cole vs King at Mania. It really is that simple.

yup i agree simple enough i can see that happening

[Londoner]

Miz as special guest ref, lol.

[Savio]

YEAH LETS MAKE ARQUETTE CHAMP NEXT

[Savio]

WWE can then hire Sting, Kevin Nash and Scott Steiner to feud with them.

[Savio]

Hell WWE should hire back the ECW guys and call them EV3.0

[glanville6]

I could actually see this leading to Lawler and Daniel Bryan vs The Miz & Michael Cole at Wrestlemania.

Yes! This was my idea in a Wrestlemania 26 thread last year!

Anyway, I think if he was in a fatal 4 way at Rumble and did or didn't win, it would be ok.

If anything, Jerry is NOT embarrassing himself when he wrestles.

Guys like Hogan or even Flair can't say that.

[Londoner]

YEAH LETS MAKE ARQUETTE CHAMP NEXT

Yeah, those two really compare.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I could also see Cole botching interference at the Rumble costing Miz the match. That would be fairly hilarious.

[Pardeep 619]

I have no problem at all with him having a Wrestlemania match of some sort, but the idea of Jerry Lawler being WWE Champion in 2011 is a joke. He may be a great colour commentator (at times) and great back in the day, but come on his time has passed for any sort of title run.

[blak23]

there is no way he should get the strap. he is already a HOFer let it be

[Stickman]

No, no, no and no.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Giving him the belt, by whatever means, will make the title look weaker just months before Wrestlemania. Would not be smart at all.

Fair enough, give the guy a Wrestlemania match but not the bloody title.

[blak23]

i feel like this shoulda been a poll

[Londoner]

Giving him the belt, by whatever means, will make the title look weaker just months before Wrestlemania. Would not be smart at all.

Fair enough, give the guy a Wrestlemania match but not the bloody title.

:y:

I'd even say give him the Rumble title match, but not the win.

[Swish]

Seriously The King winning the championship over the Miz? That's like saying Mae Young winning a diva strip off contest. Please while the King is in perfect shape, I feel the only reason he's getting these match's is due because most of the heavyweight guy's are injured. So that is the only reason the push is happening. He won't win the title...

[blak23]

:y:

I'd even say give him the Rumble title match, but not the win.

i ca get with this

[XL]

I intended to do a topic on Lawler gettign a WM match but this thread seems to cover it.

Based on his recent work he definately deserves to get his first Mania match. It's kinda shocking that he never had one when he was active tbh.

As for putting the title on him, I'd rather not see that happen.

[Aguakate]

Again, the only reason for why I see WWE pushing him, and if he gets the WWE Title, even more so, is because they are going to remove him as color commentator and they don't want to piss him off too much when they do so.

[dronepool]

I know he's old school and all but actually winning the WWE belt? No.

[XL]

Do you really think they care about "Pissing him off"? Like they cared about JR, right?

[Londoner]

they're not gonna get rid of Jerry atm.

[Aguakate]

Yeah, I do. JR has been the butt of jokes for years.

[#1-norm-fan]

I thought more people would be up in arms about this idea.

I would be fine with it. It's not like Arquette at all. Lawler is an accomplished legendary wrestler, not a scrawny actor. Night and day.

Built up as a feel good, classic "Over the hill guy gets one more crack at the title" kind of thing, there is absolutely no reason why Lawler winning the title should be shameful. He's obviously not on the same level as any of the younger guys anymore but on one night, he channels his younger days and give everything he's got and is able to recapture glory. He goes on to defend it and runs out of magic, losing the title. This is all perfectly acceptable.

[Kane Knight]

Hmmm...Lawler taking the belt from the Miz. I like.

[MIZantine Empire]

- Bryan Alvarez of F4Wonline.com is reporting that as of this week that a Fatal 4 Way is planned for the WWE Title match at Royal Rumble with The Miz defending his title vs Jerry Lawler, Randy Orton and John Morrison. Morrison vs Miz in a singles match was originally scheduled for Rumble but those plans were changed and that match will now take place on this Monday’s Raw. There has also been talk of possibly giving Jerry Lawler a short run with the WWE Title but nothing is set in stone at this point.

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Thoughts?

My initial reaction is "I'd like to have some of what they're smoking if they do that" but really, it's not like it'd make Miz or whoever look bad. They'd lose the belt in some fluke ending during a fatal 4 way. Not the end of the world. As long as Miz gets the belt back via killing Lawler or in a good douchebag way, it'll be fine.

god i am getting sick of this king shit. i used to love the king, and i still respect him for what he has done, but lately he hasnt been funny, his jokes have been way dated, and this back in the ring shit with the miz is getting old. plus i hate how he is always trashing how the miz won the strap. not like its the only time that way happened. idk i think this would be a bad idea, and i really hope king just sticks to commentary.

[Londoner]

god i am getting sick of this king shit. i used to love the king, and i still respect him for what he has done, but lately he hasnt been funny, his jokes have been way dated, and this back in the ring shit with the miz is getting old. plus i hate how he is always trashing how the miz won the strap. not like its the only time that way happened. idk i think this would be a bad idea, and i really hope king just sticks to commentary.

fuck off. kings done nothing wrong as of late.

[Xero]

I like King. I've actually enjoyed his work the past few weeks. His Ladder Match was amazing considering the expectations I had going into it. He can still work a really good match.

With that said, King does not belong anywhere near the WWE title after the Ladder match, especially in a PPV match. And I would NOT want to see him take it off Miz. I don't care what kind of "fluke finish" they could come up with, even if they had him pin Morrison or something. It would fuck up what is shaping up to be a respectable run with the title to lose it to Lawler. There is no good way to go about something like that.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

See, I don't think anything they could do right now could hurt the Miz, including having him drop the title to an old wrestler. And whether his run is 1 long one, or 2 with a fluke loss in the middle, the Miz will still look exactly the same. Because, you know, he's awesome.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I do love though that more people, including myself, are more receptive to a Lawler fluke win than Morrison winning at all.

[Xero]

It won't hurt Miz as much as it'll hurt the integrity of the title itself.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

It won't hurt Miz as much as it'll hurt the integrity of the title itself.

I disagree. When you have a champion like the Miz, who is an absolutely amazing cowardly heel character, the only thing that matters story wise is getting the belt off of him. It doesn't matter who does it. Fans just want the belt off of the guy who, in their eyes, is an undeserving champion. So in this scenario, the credibility of the belt remains the same IMO, because this is more about the Miz getting his comeuppance than it is about the title.

[MIZantine Empire]

fuck off. kings done nothing wrong as of late.
i will not fuck off, fucking on is more fun. and im not really saying king did anything wrong, just saying i am getting sick of him lately. i have always liked the king, back in the good ol days when him and jr were almost the dream team of announcing. the tlc match between him and miz was awesome, and they should have left it at that...now it just seems like its dragging on

[Londoner]

You are getting sick of him lately and say he's done nothing wrong? HA ha ha.

[Jeritron]

If he wins via fluke, and Miz or whoever gets the title back the next night on Raw, I will dig it.
That's really the only way it can be done without sucking.

As for his dream Wrestlemania match, I dunno. I doubt it will be anything high profile. They could stick him in some meaningless filler match, but with the strength of the cards these days I don't know where it would fit.
If they have a MITB match, the best bet would be putting him in that and giving him a moment. Maybe making a run at the case and going down to a huge spot.

[Jeritron]

Lawler's past achievements do give him cred. And when he steps out from behind the desk, they actually book him pretty decently still.
So it's not really that crazy for him to have a short singles run. Main event/world champion seems a bit much though. That's why it almost has to be a fluke. If he pulls off the underdog veteran win and drops the title right away, it's certainly not some disasterous thing.
I still can buy him as a midcarder, but not a main eventer.

It's interesting if they give Lawler a 24 hr or 1 week honorary reign. Mainly because they didn't even do that with Flair or Bret. They just won the IC and US titles.
If they give Lawler the fluke upset for the World Title, you have to wonder why they didn't do that for the others. That's why I sort of doubt it.

The Wrestlemania moment I can easily see.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Yeah but Flair and Hart had been world champ before. It was nothing special. For Lawler, this would be special.

[DLVH84]

I don't mind a brief reign for Lawler. He deserves it.

If he wins it, He would surpass Vince McMahon as the oldest WWE Champion in history at 61, and it would be his 32nd World title in his career (He currently had 31 reigns...28 USWA, 2 WCCW, 1 AWA).

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Good god nobody cares.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

You have access to wikipedia. Congratulations.

[Rammsteinmad]

Nothing against King, but I'd much rather just see Miz VS Morrison at the Royal Rumble, so that we can see Morrison hang out in the main event.

Plus, all this 'final thank you' or 'he deserves it' stuff is bullshit. We hear this kinda thing all the time... how Undertaker needs to have one final goodbye reign, when it's not like he hasn't had it five times the last decade!

King is a legend in the WWE, as evidenced by his being in the Hall of Fame, and rightfully so. But all the crap about him winning the title as a final 'thank you' is a load of bull. He didn't win it in his prime, why should he win it now? Just because he's old, loyal and a legend shouldn't automantically entitle him to a title reign.

Further more, I don't think this would have anything to do with dropping him from announcing and not pissing him off. WWE is a multi-million dollar company, I don't think they'd be scared of pissing someone off, and besides, Lawler's old, he has to realise his time is almost up. I'm sure he'll still get a job backstage, but he can't expect WWE to keep him on TV forever.

[Rammsteinmad]

I don't mind a brief reign for Lawler. He deserves it.

If he wins it, He would surpass Vince McMahon as the oldest WWE Champion in history at 61, and it would be his 32nd World title in his career (He currently had 31 reigns...28 USWA, 2 WCCW, 1 AWA).

You have access to Wikipedia. Congratulations.

:D

[Tazz Dan]

Nothing against King, but I'd much rather just see Miz VS Morrison at the Royal Rumble, so that we can see Morrison hang out in the main event.

Plus, all this 'final thank you' or 'he deserves it' stuff is bullshit. We hear this kinda thing all the time... how Undertaker needs to have one final goodbye reign, when it's not like he hasn't had it five times the last decade!

King is a legend in the WWE, as evidenced by his being in the Hall of Fame, and rightfully so. But all the crap about him winning the title as a final 'thank you' is a load of bull. He didn't win it in his prime, why should he win it now? Just because he's old, loyal and a legend shouldn't automantically entitle him to a title reign.

Further more, I don't think this would have anything to do with dropping him from announcing and not pissing him off. WWE is a multi-million dollar company, I don't think they'd be scared of pissing someone off, and besides, Lawler's old, he has to realise his time is almost up. I'm sure he'll still get a job backstage, but he can't expect WWE to keep him on TV forever.

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[Emperor Smeat]

If Lawler wants to have a match at Wrestlemania, then I don't see a problem since its been a goal of his for years but I don't like the idea of him winning the title off of Miz even if it was just for 1 week.

It would hurt Miz's reign as champion but Morison has the most to lose since he just started his feud with Miz and would seem like a waste of a feud to end it too early if Lawler ends up being the one to benefit the most.

[Jeritron]

Yeah but Flair and Hart had been world champ before. It was nothing special. For Lawler, this would be special.

This is true. Which is why I'm for it. I just think it should certainly be booked a certain way.
I'm always down for an upset and moment of unexpected glory.
It could be pretty awesome, but I also don't want to see The Miz or the WWE title get dogged. I think WWE is pretty smart about that.
I'm almost certain that if they did do this, it would be short and sweet, and the result of some hijinx.

[Jeritron]

If Lawler wants to have a match at Wrestlemania, then I don't see a problem since its been a goal of his for years but I don't like the idea of him winning the title off of Miz even if it was just for 1 week.

It would hurt Miz's reign as champion but Morison has the most to lose since he just started his feud with Miz and would seem like a waste of a feud to end it too early if Lawler ends up being the one to benefit the most.

I don't think it would really hurt The Miz, or anyone, if it's a fatal four way and some big clusterfuck happens and Lawler scores the win.
He doesn't even have to pin Miz

[Emperor Smeat]

They could just bring back the Championship Scramble match if they wanted to give Lawler a title win without the need for him to just drop it a day or week later.

Let him get a pin and hold on to the status of "current WWE champion" until late in the match for someone like a Miz or if WWE wanted someone else to get the final pin or submission.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

King's still a badass in the ring. He comes from the territory days, so he's got command in there. His moveset is basic, but he knows how and when to do every move he does to make the crowd react, and that is more than you can say for at least 80 per cent of the roster.

[Seth82]

YEAH LETS MAKE ARQUETTE CHAMP NEXT

Big Huge Difference...

Lawler was a wrestler for many years thru out the 70's, 80's and 90's

Arquette wasn't a wrestler

I'm all for Lawler getting a short term run with the belt

[MIZantine Empire]

You are getting sick of him lately and say he's done nothing wrong? HA ha ha.
yes whats your point?

[Majunior]

Lawler brings a LOT to the table, even to this day.

As I said earlier, I like the idea of him winning it. Cluster for the win. They've always portrayed him as a "wily veteran" and whatnot, so let him play that up. Hell, let him roll out of the ring and lay low, and when the other guys trade finishers, he rolls in during the pin, grabs the guy pinning and pulls him directly into a piledriver, holds it for a three count, and celebrates. Fluke win, no one in the match or the belt loses cred since it was stripped from the cowardly, underhanded champ.

The crowd will eat it up.

A night later, Lawler gets out-wrestled and becomes the victim of interference by someone like Riley. Lawler v. Riley at Mania, Riley goes for the DQ loss giving Lawler the win at Mania, and Riley and Miz proceed to destroy Jerry until wrestlers can intervene and chase them off. Lawler is hurt, and gets written off the TV.

Win all 'round.

[Droford]

Jerry Lawler vs HHH at WM

HHH swerves everyone and forms an alliance with Sheamus and helps Sheamus win/not be eliminated at Elimination Chamber costing Lawler the belt and HHH focus is on Jerry "the King" Lawler for a match at WM.

kinda lame really but anyway

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Michael Scott is told by Toby Flenderson about the King becoming the WWE Champion by beating the Miz...it wasn't pretty.

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A lot of other people from television were also polled:

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[CSL]

See, this is why I give you shit.

[XCaliber]

Whoever would even consider booking this should be drugged out into the street and shot.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

See, this is why I give you shit.

Putting in relevant and funny videos that aren't on autoplay? It was the perfect video to how I feel on King becoming champ over Miz. You must have no sense of humor. Maybe you should make it a New Years Resolution to not be such an uptight ass.


Whoever would even consider booking this should be drugged out into the street and shot.

Garfield Christmas special reference? Sweet!

[CSL]

lollll

[CSL]

Michael Scott is told by Toby Flenderson about the King becoming the WWE Champion by beating the Miz...it wasn't pretty.

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A lot of other people from television were also polled:

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See, this is why I give you shit.

Putting in relevant and funny videos that aren't on autoplay? It was the perfect video to how I feel on King becoming champ over Miz. You must have no sense of humor. Maybe you should make it a New Years Resolution to not be such an uptight ass.

Might be my favourite sequence of posts of all time.

[Tazz Dan]

STD, CSL has got you here buddy. :-\

[parkmania]

For those that have said WWE should have given him the belt in his feud with Bret, there's no way Vince would have done that and here's why:

Lawler didn't have an exclusive contract with WWF during the majority that time - he was still wrestling in USWA at the time. The exact same footage that was being shown on WWE portraying Lawler as a heel was being shown on USWA where Lawler was going over as a face.

[Xero]

I don't think he has an exclusive contract now. I assume he's still on the Announcer's contract, maybe he's on a short-term per-match thing too, but I don't think he's exclusive.

He still works Memphis now I thought, though that's moot since it's regional/indie now.

[Cool King]

Putting in relevant and funny videos that aren't on autoplay? It was the perfect video to how I feel on King becoming champ over Miz. You must have no sense of humor. Maybe you should make it a New Years Resolution to not be such an uptight ass.

I'm not taking sides, but this video wasn't good enough?

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[parkmania]

I don't think he has an exclusive contract now. I assume he's still on the Announcer's contract, maybe he's on a short-term per-match thing too, but I don't think he's exclusive.

He still works Memphis now I thought, though that's moot since it's regional/indie now.

Yes. Back then WWF and WCW still hadn't completely taken over the wrestling world. USWA, while fading fast, was still a mega-regional company.

Recently, Lawler had been doing Memphis wrestling (was a part owner in it), but Lawler's partner failed to come through on some financing and Memphis Wrestling closed up after a Sept 11, 2010 event.

[CSL]

parkmania is from the future :eek:

[parkmania]

Whoops. Usually I can't get used to writing the new year, now it seems I can't get out of 2010 fast enough.

[CSL]

Kind of disappointed :( There was money to be made there. You could have fucking owned tipsters this year as well.

[parkmania]

Kind of disappointed :( There was money to be made there. You could have fucking owned tipsters this year as well.

If that were the case, tipsters would have been the LEAST of my concerns.

[DLVH84]

King's still a badass in the ring. He comes from the territory days, so he's got command in there. His moveset is basic, but he knows how and when to do every move he does to make the crowd react, and that is more than you can say for at least 80 per cent of the roster.

I agree on that notion. Plus, he always brought that aura and charisma in those days as well, even when he's commentating now, whether if it's cheers or boos, but he knows how to work a crowd like he does.

[Jordan]

I love this idea, I wouldn't mind if WWE ran with King as the Champion for a period of time.

[Savio]

Why give King the title? How about they actually build a good feud for mania.

[Aguakate]

Why give King the title? How about they actually build a good feud for mania.

THANK YOU!

GOSH!

All this "Yeah! Give King the Title" talk had me wondering if I was insane or something.

[Kane Knight]

I like this idea. Reward Lawler for his loyalty. Dont give him too long of a run. It allows Lawler to get his shine, Miz will look like a chickenshit heel when he gets it back in a slimey fashion, JoMo can still continue to be built as the belt chaser, since he's not ready just yet, and Randy can be in the mix since he's crazy over, but wont take the belt since he needs to take it easy in lieu of taking some time off.

It seems like a win in all aspects.

Dude walked out over his girlfriend. Sounds like loyalty to me...Just not to the company.

[Aguakate]

I can't believe people actually like the idea of giving the Title to Lawler, when they have a new, young star as Champion in The Miz. These are the same fans who some time ago were complaining because WWE wasn't producing new stars, new wrestlers who were not just "regular" guys, but promising stars. Now that WWE is doing so, some want an old guy as Champion.

It's amazing. You can't please fans.

[DLVH84]

I can't believe people actually like the idea of giving the Title to Lawler, when they have a new, young star as Champion in The Miz. These are the same fans who some time ago were complaining because WWE wasn't producing new stars, new wrestlers who were not just "regular" guys, but promising stars. Now that WWE is doing so, some want an old guy as Champion.

It's amazing. You can't please fans.

No, Lawler may win the title from Miz, and he'll most likely probably lose the title back to him a day later, or a week or two later on RAW, depending on how they want to set it up, if it occurs. I see it as a "thank you" gesture to Lawler for his loyalty to Vince and the WWE.

[Aguakate]

No, Lawler may win the title from Miz, and he'll most likely probably lose the title back to him a day later or a week later, depending on how they want to set it up, if it occurs. I see it as a "thank you" gesture to Lawler for his loyalty to Vince and the WWE.

He's in the HOF. That's WWE's way of "thanking him".

I'm telling ya'll, and when it happens I'm going to tell u "I TOLD U SO"...if Lawler wins the WWE Title, he's off the boradcast team forever. It's the WWE's way of getting him out of there without making it look bad, and angrying him.

[DLVH84]

Yeah, and maybe we need another assclown alongside Mitchell Cole for bad commentary.

[Aguakate]

Yeah, and maybe we need another assclown alongside Mitchell Cole for bad commentary.

Josh Matthews will be Cole's partner.

[Kane Knight]

I can't believe people actually like the idea of giving the Title to Lawler, when they have a new, young star as Champion in The Miz. These are the same fans who some time ago were complaining because WWE wasn't producing new stars, new wrestlers who were not just "regular" guys, but promising stars. Now that WWE is doing so, some want an old guy as Champion.

It's amazing. You can't please fans.

False Dichotomy FTW!

[Aguakate]

False Dichotomy FTW!

I don't know what "Dichotomy" is, or is supposed to be, but...I'm not wrong.

[Kane Knight]

I don't know what "Dichotomy" is, or is supposed to be, but...I'm not wrong.

You're totally wrong.

It's not like people are clammoring for a 12 month reign with Lawler on top. They're simply okay with the concept of a "thank you" win.

Maybe you want to portray these two extremes as the only available options, but they are not.

[Aguakate]

You're totally wrong.

It's not like people are clammoring for a 12 month reign with Lawler on top. They're simply okay with the concept of a "thank you" win.

Maybe you want to portray these two extremes as the only available options, but they are not.

It's the same rationale for why WCW gave Arquette the Title. Not for a "12 month reign", only to promote the movie they had.

You'll say "Yeah but Lawler is a legend", blah, blah...but no. It's the same reasoning behind both instances.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Whoring your title to promote a movie and an upset win by a legendary wrestler are not the same thing. If that's your best argument, you need to shut the fuck up.

[Kane Knight]

It's the same rationale for why WCW gave Arquette the Title. Not for a "12 month reign", only to promote the movie they had.

You'll say "Yeah but Lawler is a legend", blah, blah...but no. It's the same reasoning behind both instances.

Whoring your title to promote a movie and an upset win by a legendary wrestler are not the same thing. If that's your best argument, you need to shut the fuck up.

What Supreme said.

[Fignuts]

It's the same rationale for why WCW gave Arquette the Title. Not for a "12 month reign", only to promote the movie they had.

You'll say "Yeah but Lawler is a legend", blah, blah...but no. It's the same reasoning behind both instances.

Are you an idiot?

[Aguakate]

Whoring your title to promote a movie and an upset win by a legendary wrestler are not the same thing. If that's your best argument, you need to shut the fuck up.

LOL at your "Shut the fuck up"

You're "whoring the title" either way, because neither instance has any real purpose in terms of "long term" WWE.

I remember when the rumor came up that Bret Hart would win the WWE Title...if was just a rumor, but people here were up in arms like "Why?! No way!"

But now, it's ok.

BAH.

[CSL]

Bret can barely move, let alone bump. With enough protection, King can still be a part of a good match.

[Aguakate]

Are you an idiot?

Nah, just objective.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

You keep trying to analogize this to other things in the past and it's not gonna work. Lawler is the ONLY guy that could pull this off. The only one. He's the only guy with the right position, the right health, the right resume, and the right status with the company to make this work.

If this was anyone else, I'd be against it. But this is special.

[Aguakate]

You keep trying to analogize this to other things in the past and it's not gonna work. Lawler is the ONLY guy that could pull this off. The only one. He's the only guy with the right position, the right health, the right resume, and the right status with the company to make this work.

If this was anyone else, I'd be against it. But this is special.

Heck, don't have him win the Title NOW. No no no...

...have him win the Rumble. Have him go to WM27 and Main Event, baby! Have him win it right there in Atlanta, and then the next night he can had it over!

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Nah, just objective.

[Kane Knight]

Bret can barely move, let alone bump. With enough protection, King can still be a part of a good match.

Truly. I dislike the idea of Hart being a champion because he can't really perform. His matches demonstrated that. If he could be somewhat believable in the ring, I'd love to see him get a brief "Thank you" run with one of the heavyweight titles.

Course, this isn't so much approval as it is understanding. I'm not sure King should get a run so much as I understand the reasoning behind it. Miz also gets "change the channel" heat from me, so I honestly couldn't care less about him getting pushed. It doesn't mean I'm against new talent. Just Douchey McBoring.

...Well, and CM Punk, but we won't go there.

[dronepool]

WWE Champ?

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Wouldn't that mean... you know?

[Aguakate]

Did you people see the Miz vs King match this past Monday?

...wasn't good.

[Jordan]

King takes the title from Miz at the Rumble. Miz's proudest accomplishment, regarded as "The it thing" in wrestling, humiliated an pinned by a 60+ year old man. King makes a successful title defense against Alex Reilly in a match where Miz is banned from ringside. Elimination Chamber is up an The King is going in as a defending champ against four Raw Superstars and ... The Miz. The match is built to the confrontation between King and Miz ... and this time King loses his title, but not to the Miz. Setting up a big time heated Wrestlemania match with King's career on the line.

[Aguakate]

King takes the title from Miz at the Rumble. Miz's proudest accomplishment, regarded as "The it thing" in wrestling, humiliated an pinned by a 60+ year old man. King makes a successful title defense against Alex Reilly in a match where Miz is banned from ringside. Elimination Chamber is up an The King is going in as a defending champ against four Raw Superstars and ... The Miz. The match is built to the confrontation between King and Miz ... and this time King loses his title, but not to the Miz. Setting up a big time heated Wrestlemania match with King's career on the line.

Oh, please no.

I mean...YES!

[Tazz Dan]

Did you people see the Miz vs King match this past Monday?

...wasn't good.

Yet it was still better than 98% of Batista's matches from the last 18 months before he left.

[CSL]

You shut your dirty mouth when talking about Batista like that

[Aguakate]

Yet it was still better than 98% of Batista's matches from the last 18 months before he left.

Well, yeah, but Batista sucks.

[CSL]

I will murder the pair of you

[CSL]

David Batista is on the fast track to Holy Nash status

[Tazz Dan]

Well, yeah, but Batista sucks.

And they still gave him the belt. Just sayin.....

[Tazz Dan]

David Batista is on the fast track to Holy Nash status

Um, who has the dirty motherfucking whore mouth now? Batista will NEVER reach Nash's status.

[Aguakate]

And they still gave him the belt. Just sayin.....

Ok, but he is like 20 years younger than Lawler.

I don't understand why if they didn't give King the belt back in the 90's, from '93 to '95 when he was feuding with Bret Hart, and actually having good matches, they'd give it to him NOW.

[CSL]

I DIDN'T SAY HE WAS THERE DID I FUCK :mad::mad:

[CSL]

Really been enjoying calling people 'fuck' lately

[Tazz Dan]

Ok, but he is like 20 years younger than Lawler.

I don't understand why if they didn't give King the belt back in the 90's, from '93 to '95 when he was feuding with Bret Hart, and actually having good matches, they'd give it to him NOW.

So age over talent?

[Tazz Dan]

I DIDN'T SAY HE WAS THERE DID I FUCK :mad::mad:

I DIDN'T SAY YOU SAID HE WAS THERE, DID I FUCKTARD :foc:

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Dave Bautista and John Cena wrestled circles around Edge and Jericho at WrestleMania, so you can all munch a scrotum.

[Aguakate]

Dave Bautista and John Cena wrestled circles around Edge and Jericho at WrestleMania, so you can all munch a scrotum.

Edge, maybe.

Jericho...come on, man.

[Tazz Dan]

And his last other good match was when?

[CSL]

He had a nice match with Danielson around the same time.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

He had a solid match with DiBiase on some Smackdown a while ago

[Supreme Olajuwon]

His fatal four way at Bragging Rights in 09 was money. That was within 18 months.

YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO BE MY FRIEND

[Tazz Dan]

Look, we could discuss how wrong I am for hours here, but the point is, Aguakate is an idiot.

[Aguakate]

Look, we could discuss how wrong I am for hours here, but the point is, Aguakate is an idiot.

By not wanting a 50 something year old man as WWE Champion in 2011?

I don't want to be right if that's being wrong.

[CSL]

60 something :cool:

[Tazz Dan]

By not wanting a 50 something year old man as WWE Champion in 2011?

I don't want to be right if that's being wrong.

Would you have rather it happened in 2010?

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Oh so you don't want Lawler to be champ? I thought you were being objective.

[Aguakate]

Would you have rather it happened in 2010?

...No, 1995, actually.

[Tazz Dan]

...No, 1995, actually.

But he wouldn't have been over then.

[Aguakate]

60 something :cool:

Oh, silly me.

The same people who criticize Flair and Hogan for still being around, clamoring for a Jerry Lawler Title reign...

...:nono:

[Tazz Dan]

Oh, silly me.

The same people who criticize Flair and Hogan for still being around, clamoring for a Jerry Lawler Title reign...

...:nono:

It's the internet. We are entitled to be hypocritical.

[Aguakate]

But he wouldn't have been over then.

Right...that's why he should've been Champion back then if WWE really wanted him to be Champion, because he wasn't over then...

...now, he's over...

...get it? "Over" as in "Done"? "Finished"?

Thank u.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Oh, silly me.

The same people who criticize Flair and Hogan for still being around, clamoring for a Jerry Lawler Title reign...

...:nono:

Again you're making false analogies. People are mad at Hogan because he clearly can't go anymore, but he still tries to hold onto the spotlight. People are mad at Flair because he slapped WWE in the face after they gave him the greatest sendoff in wrestling history.

THIS IS NOT THE SAME THING. YOU ARE WRONG. DEAL WITH IT.

[Aguakate]

Again you're making false analogies. People are mad at Hogan because he clearly can't go anymore, but he still tries to hold onto the spotlight. People are mad at Flair because he slapped WWE in the face after they gave him the greatest sendoff in wrestling history.

THIS IS NOT THE SAME THING. YOU ARE WRONG. DEAL WITH IT.

IT IS TOO THE SAME THING.

DEAL WITH IT.

Tazz Dan said it best: "It's the internet. We are entitled to be hypocritical."

I rest my case.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

God, you are just grasping at straws now.

[CSL]

Come on bloke, please stop trying to out-retard SOCCER LEGS. You aren't going to succeed, it comes too naturally to him.

[Aguakate]

God, you are just grasping at straws now.

Believe me...I'm solid.

[Tazz Dan]

Fuck me Aguakate, if you're quoting anything I say as defense you're clearly in trouble. Besides, my statement was sarcastic. You obviously didn't pick that up like everyone else.

[Aguakate]

Fuck me Aguakate, if you're quoting anything I say as defense you're clearly in trouble. Besides, my statement was sarcastic. You obviously didn't pick that up like everyone else.

Don't you know by now, young 'un, that most realities are said using "sarcasm" or "just kidding"?

[Jordan]

The difference between Jerry Lawler and Hogan/Flair...

Lawler is cool
Lawler is rather untested yet amazingly over and in control of the audience
Lawler can still work a good match
Lawler IS on the same plane as Ric Flair, and should have a certain respect.
Lawler could use a DVD, that would be sick.
Lawler is also the an underdog to an underdog champion. It's a very interesting dynamic and if they worked an amazing old school match it could do very well for both The Miz and The King's Legacy.

This is a chance WWE and we have to finally go back and take Jerry Lawler off of the list of "Should Have But Never Held ..."

And you don't get an honest to god chance that is marketable like this every day.

[Jeritron]

Not every decision involving the WWE title needs to be intended for long-term plans. I don't know why you're pushing that idea, Agua.

Yes, it's important to treat the title with dignity and use it to create new stars and cement current ones, but ultimately it's a prop to advance storylines. They already do plenty with the belt to keep it somewhat prestigious and on current or future stars.

It can also very easily be used to create moments/storylines that the company feels are worthwhile in the present. If you weren't so concerned about the X's and O's of booking, and just humored the show, maybe you'd enjoy yourself.

Having a legitimate veteran pull off an upset is not going to destroy the company or the belt. I promise. Maybe if they did that shit every night, but they don't.
It will most likely pop the crowd and send a lot of people home happy, while advancing The Miz's current storyline. And I highly doubt anyone is going to get "buried" in the process. Ultimately it will also lead to the title finding it's way back to it's normal place, and probably more heat for the heel who takes it back.

[Jeritron]

Hogan and Flair aren't the same thing at all because they are used constantly and have had ages in the spotlight.
It's not about their age specifically. That's just a punchline. It's really about their need to stay on the product in prominent roles, all the time, for the past 30 years. I'm pretty sure they could have Benjamin Button syndrome and people would still feel the same way.

Jerry Lawler getting back in the mix as a brief one-off isn't even close to the same thing.

[VSG]

You guys do realize there is no point trying to convince the others in this case, right?

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I realize you have a stupid face.

[VSG]

:cool:

[Tazz Dan]

Your mum is :cool:. :naughty:

[Shadrick]

oh schnap.

[Savio]

Whoring your title to promote a movie and an upset win by a legendary wrestler are not the same thing. If that's your best argument, you need to shut the fuck up.
My argument is that there is no reason to give King the title. they should focus on on actually building a strong program with it instead of using it as a thank you gift for their announcer.

[Kane Knight]

Ok, but he is like 20 years younger than Lawler.


And still like 20 years older than your average "new" guy.

[Savio]

If WWE HAD to put the title on a "has been" I'd rather they put it on The Million Dollar Man.

[Beth Phoenix Fan]

If WWE HAD to put the title on a "has been" I'd rather they put it on The Million Dollar Man.

that would be okay but if they weren't overdoing the whole idea of bret not being able to compete like he used to, the hitman could be a champion

seriously even though he had a stroke that doesn't mean he still can't make a good match.

also king should have a title run for he deserves it, i say give it to him for a month or so and really build him as a credible champion. not sure if anyone agrees with me on this but that's fine with me(just an opinion)

[Corporate CockSnogger]

seriously even though he had a stroke that doesn't mean he still can't make a good match.


Yes it does. The man can't bump, he can barely move and he can't really lift his opponents much. This leaves us with a match consisting of weak looking punches.

[Beth Phoenix Fan]

Yes it does. The man can't bump, he can barely move and he can't really lift his opponents much. This leaves us with a match consisting of weak looking punches.

well that's your opinion, but whenever he competed a live events this past year he really preformed well

he's used
slams
side backbreaker
dropkick
elbow from the second rope
his usual elbow drops
sharpshooter

you have to adimt he still can compete even if he can't bump

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Giving the title to Bret Hart would make it look weaker than giving it to Lawler would.

Somebody getting beaten up by a man who's had a stroke and can barely move. Great idea there Beth Phoenix Fan. You're a real bright spark.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

My argument is that there is no reason to give King the title. they should focus on on actually building a strong program with it instead of using it as a thank you gift for their announcer.

But this is both of those things. So what's the problem?

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I always forget that Lawler is older than JR.</font>

[Fox]

Let me preface this post by saying that I have never been a fan of Jerry Lawler in the ring. I don't think I've enjoyed a single one of his feuds. The guy is so fucking old school, which is fine if you're an old school fan, but he's just not relevant today. He's a Legend, like JR and Ric Flair and Hulk Hogan and Sgt. Slaughter and Jesse Ventura - but Legends shouldn't be the WWE Champion when there is fresh young talent that deserves it more.
I personally hold The King responsible for destroying Tazz's push back in 2001. Their feud was God awful. Every feud he's in, to me, is utterly stupid. This old announcer who cracks TERRIBLE JOKES all night long every Monday night and PPV's, who is far past his prime both in the ring and at the table, seems to think that when he gets into it with a superstar that he sets the world on fire. It's just not the case for me.

Now you have The Miz as the WWE Champion. No one has come up in the WWE from a lower position and at the incredible speed that The Miz has in a very, very long time. He really is the big thing in the WWE right now, no question about it.

While on the one hand I can see how it would be effective to take your top heel on that roller coaster ride of losing the WWE Title to a lesser competitor, only to win it back in cheating fashion one night later, I also feel that it's unneccesary at this stage in Miz' career and title run.

WrestleMania is in 3 months. They should be focusing on that - not on some birthday present title win for The King. If Miz is going to carry the WWE Title into WrestleMania, they need to keep booking him strongly and they need to keep the belt on him. This little speed bump with The King would be a downshift in gears - they need to keep him hot and keep him strong. If he's losing the title before WM, then they should focus on that instead - this title loss to King would only hurt him.

I understand the logic behind the idea, but I don't agree with it for right now. The Road to WrestleMania is not the time, and The King certainly is not the guy. If they really want to make King the champion AND give him his WrestleMania moment, put him in Money in the Bank at WM27, let him win it (the other 7 guys get knocked out in some gigantic spot and then a bloody King climbs the ladder slowly and pulls down the briefcase). Have him gloat about his MITB contract on RAW every week, have the heel champion talk about how King is GUARANTEED to be the only MITB winner to fail to cash in, and then when the time is right, he cashes in and wins the belt (they could even do it in Memphis, for Christ's sake). Then he either strips himself of the belt and they have a tournament, OR he loses it back to the heel. But do it around Summerslam. Not WrestleMania.

[Fox]

<font color=goldenrod>I always forget that Lawler is older than JR.</font>

That's because Lawler uses Botox and JR doesn't.

[Kane Knight]

But this is both of those things. So what's the problem?

The problem is he's trying to frame the argument as though the two are mutually exclusive.

[thedamndest]

Realistically the match will end when Morrison or Orton hits a finishing move on King and Alex Riley interferes allowing Miz to sneak the pinfall.

[Juan]

If WWE HAD to put the title on a "has been" I'd rather they put it on The Million Dollar Man.

You mean the guy that hasn't wrestled since 1994 due to a back injury?

[Mooияakeя™]

AS with all things, if it's done right, fine. But it's fucking WWE. they had 2 weeks worth of good writing in start of December, hopefully it won't fuck up if they do.

For sure not at mania tho. I'd like to see HHH vs Orton or something. A massive match. HHH is well known and always gets a reaction and Orton is hot and always gets a reaction. The guys could really really work out an awesome run up program. matches here and there, loads of backstage stuff, rants (as usual) but stop the matches 3 weeks before for whatever reasons so when they do go at it. make it matter.

[Grablot]

Jerry Lawler as champion would be an embrassment and a joke. He is washed up comentator who isnt any good anymore and was only good in the attitude era and his gimmick is dumb even today. He is out of shape he cant put on even half of a good match and his character is a joke.

Putting the WWE title on him is like taking a dump on the title and then vomiting on it. WWE will make The Miz and anyone involved with Lawler look like a joke if Lawler becomes champion and WWE will look like TNA if they have an over the hill wrestler like Lawler as champion.

[Fox]

AS with all things, if it's done right, fine. But it's fucking WWE. they had 2 weeks worth of good writing in start of December, hopefully it won't fuck up if they do.

For sure not at mania tho. I'd like to see HHH vs Orton or something. A massive match. HHH is well known and always gets a reaction and Orton is hot and always gets a reaction. The guys could really really work out an awesome run up program. matches here and there, loads of backstage stuff, rants (as usual) but stop the matches 3 weeks before for whatever reasons so when they do go at it. make it matter.

I'm sure you are aware that these two already fought each other at WrestleMania 25 and that it really wasn't that good, like, at all. In fact they've fought numerous numerous times on PPV and have never exactly "torn down the house." I'm just not sure why you would consider Orton vs. Triple H a "massive match" worthy of yet another WM main event. They're not exactly Rock/Austin.

[SOCCER LEGS]

this is a retarded idea, right on up there with david arquette WCW champion.

thankfully, like most of internet rumors this will not materialize into anything.

[Mooияakeя™]

I'm sure you are aware that these two already fought each other at WrestleMania 25 and that it really wasn't that good, like, at all. In fact they've fought numerous numerous times on PPV and have never exactly "torn down the house." I'm just not sure why you would consider Orton vs. Triple H a "massive match" worthy of yet another WM main event. They're not exactly Rock/Austin.

Most of the big guys dont tear the house down anyway, without the exception of Taker at Mania. these guys could do the RAW thing well (I dare say Taker will be taking the mantle of main SD match). The build up. I also think Orton has come on leaps and bounds and the freshness of HHH returning would be refreshing for now.

Depends how it pens out, but I don't want no John Cena - Orton match for sure. If Miz is involved, great. But I really see a 4-way for the title @ Mania with HHH, Miz, Orton, Cena. Unless I'm missing someone out who could jump over Miz in there.

[Mooияakeя™]

Depends how they are going with Miz's run btw. It could just be he disappears knowing WWE.

[Tazz Dan]

I honestly feel some of guys think hell will freeze over if Lawler wins the title. The average fan will get a kick out of it, the long time viewers will probably mark out like bitches, and the internet fans will have to suck it up. It could actually pull some more old viewers back if they hear the news.

So yeah, IF it happens, it will only be short term. WWE won't fall apart because of it.

[Jordan]

You can see the level of intelligence in the grammar, differentiating the opinions. There are a handful of smart posters and smart reasons that go for the negative. However, this would be something incredibly memorable and only aide the Miz. The Miz is a pussy champ anyway, he can lose every single match and still be over, he's not a "dangerous" man like Randy Orton.

[Savio]

That's because Lawler uses Botox and JR doesn't.
What!? of course he does! Half of his face is paralyzed.

[Fox]

What!? of course he does! Half of his face is paralyzed.

:lol: I was waiting for someone to say this.

[Fox]

Most of the big guys dont tear the house down anyway, without the exception of Taker at Mania. these guys could do the RAW thing well (I dare say Taker will be taking the mantle of main SD match). The build up. I also think Orton has come on leaps and bounds and the freshness of HHH returning would be refreshing for now.

Depends how it pens out, but I don't want no John Cena - Orton match for sure. If Miz is involved, great. But I really see a 4-way for the title @ Mania with HHH, Miz, Orton, Cena. Unless I'm missing someone out who could jump over Miz in there.

WWE had a great run of main events for awhile.

WM XIV: Austin vs. HBK
WM XV: Austin vs. Rock
WM XVI: Rock vs. Triple H vs. Foley vs. Big Show
WM XVII: Austin vs. Rock II
WM XIX: Lesnar vs. Kurt Angle
WM XX: Benoit vs. Triple H vs. HBK

Honestly, I feel like that's where it stopped. The main events since WM20 have all been fairly lackluster, shown up by matches lower on the card. I don't see why this should be continued with another Orton/HHH fiasco.

Punk vs. Anyone for the WWE Title is the way to go.

[Fox]

I should also mention Cena vs. Triple H from WM22, as that match was epic from a viewer standpoint, even if the actual in-ring action wasn't THAT good.

[Savio]

Im not saying that they shouldn't do a program with Miz vs Lawler @ Mania (hopefully Tag Team and not 1 on 1) but coming to the conclusion that they need to put the title on Lawler for that to happen is bad. You could easily have Lawler cost him the title against someone to start up that feud.
You mean the guy that hasn't wrestled since 1994 due to a back injury?
Yeah that guy, he shoulda beat macho man in that tourney for the title. Now would be the absolute best time in his entire career to give him the title.

[Tazz Dan]

...... Bret Hart would be able to bump better atm than him.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Linda McMahon would be able to bump better than him tbf.

[Jordan]

This is not about just showing respect, its interesting booking and could be a nice shake up for the title picture.

[XL]

WWE had a great run of main events for awhile.

WM XIV: Austin vs. HBK
WM XV: Austin vs. Rock
WM XVI: Rock vs. Triple H vs. Foley vs. Big Show
WM XVII: Austin vs. Rock II
WM XIX: Lesnar vs. Kurt Angle
WM XX: Benoit vs. Triple H vs. HBK

Honestly, I feel like that's where it stopped. The main events since WM20 have all been fairly lackluster, shown up by matches lower on the card. I don't see why this should be continued with another Orton/HHH fiasco.

Punk vs. Anyone for the WWE Title is the way to go.
Are we forgetting Taker v HBK II from this past year for any particular reason?

[XL]

Also, is this the same board that shit a brick when Miz "needed" Cole to help him beat Lawler about a month ago cos it made him look "weak"?

Now, half of us are OK with Lawler beating Miz for the belt (under the right circumstances of course)?

[Tazz Dan]

That is why people should be in the chat thread during shows and ppv's, and not the thread. We have sense in the chat thread. Nobody there thought that finish made Miz look weak :o

[XL]

Hmmmmmmmmm. Maybe I should look into that.

[CSL]

Only thing gayer than the muties in the RAW/PPV threads is chat

[Tazz Dan]

I highly recommend it. We just ban the trolls if they show up. Apart from STD.

[James Steele]

Michaels/Cena

[Tazz Dan]

Only thing gayer than the muties in the RAW/PPV threads is chat

Somebody obviously got banned. ;)

[XL]

Michaels/Cena
You're not suggesting that was a good Mania ME are you Steele? You really think a match featuring Cena would get that kind of credit round here?

[Tazz Dan]

You're not suggesting that was a good Mania ME are you Steele? You really think a match featuring Cena would get that kind of credit round here?

HBK obviously carried him in that match.

[XL]

Well yeah. Obviously.

[James Steele]

Until Cena ruined it by forgetting to sell the leg Michaels had worked on the entire fucking match it was tremendous.

WrestleMania 23 is my favorite WrestleMania since WM17.

[Mooияakeя™]

WWE had a great run of main events for awhile.

WM XIV: Austin vs. HBK
WM XV: Austin vs. Rock
WM XVI: Rock vs. Triple H vs. Foley vs. Big Show
WM XVII: Austin vs. Rock II
WM XIX: Lesnar vs. Kurt Angle
WM XX: Benoit vs. Triple H vs. HBK

Honestly, I feel like that's where it stopped. The main events since WM20 have all been fairly lackluster, shown up by matches lower on the card. I don't see why this should be continued with another Orton/HHH fiasco.

Punk vs. Anyone for the WWE Title is the way to go.

Look at the dates of those though.

I pretty much wish they'd put MITB bank there. Don't like how it warrants it's own PPV. King Of The Ring should have it's own but the title of that should mean more. I dunno how (what they could do to make it more relevent). But MITB used to add some more sparkle to WM.

[Mooияakeя™]

Anyway, fuck it bring back In Your House.

Lawler wins.

[James Steele]

WWE In Your House: King's Ransom

[Jordan]

WWE In Your House: King's Ransom

Hahaha that's awesome

[VSG]

Nobody there thought that finish made Miz look weak :o

Except grandpa Xero, and hence half of the ppl there then.

[James Steele]

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/6879/kingsransomppv.jpg

[Tazz Dan]

Except grandpa Xero, and hence half of the ppl there then.

Yeah, but we all know his opinion doesn't count around here :roll:

[Xero]

I liked that whole match....

[Tazz Dan]

:'(

You were meant to rant at me.

[Aguakate]

You're not suggesting that was a good Mania ME are you Steele? You really think a match featuring Cena would get that kind of credit round here?

The matches Cena had with HBK have been his best matches...

...of course, because of HBK.

[XL]

Of course. He's never had a good match outside of those ones with Michaels :roll:

[Savio]

You're not suggesting that was a good Mania ME are you Steele? You really think a match featuring Cena would get that kind of credit round here?
I really wasnt a fan of Michaels vs Cena :/

[XL]

Hey, that's cool...if your opinion isn't based solely on the fact that it is a Cena match.

[Aguakate]

Hey, that's cool...if your opinion isn't based solely on the fact that it is a Cena match.

Yet it is.

[Savio]

Hey, that's cool...if your opinion isn't based solely on the fact that it is a Cena match.
Its not I just didn't like it, didn't have the mania feel to me. Cena has had a few good matches, The "I quit" match against JBL was one of them (scratch the ending).

[XL]

It did have a pretty poor build up if I recall. Weren't they the tag champs at the time? I fuckimg hate that.

[Aguakate]

It did have a pretty poor build up if I recall. Weren't they the tag champs at the time? I fuckimg hate that.

It's just HBK's refusal to go full heel during his last run (except vs Hogan).