UFC 126

[KillerWolf]

Anderson Silva vs. Vitor Belfort
Belfort appears to be the most dangerous opponent Silva has faced in the UFC thus far, and i know a lot of people are picking him to be the one. i'm guessing that, no, it isnt going to happen.

Forrest Griffin vs. Rich Franklin
sort of a tough fight to call. both are well rounded. Forrest is very durable, but i see this as a fight Franklin can finish, and Forrest, most likely, can't.

Jake Ellenberger vs. Carlos Eduardo Rocha
i dont know if i've ever seen Rocha, but he looks like a solid BJJ fighter. Ellenberger is gonna be bigger, and has more experience, and has beaten some tough opponents. Rocha seems solid though, for sure.

Bones vs. Darth

while putting together an impressive streak of wins, i think that Bader has been exposed in his recent fights as being very beatable - especially with his stand up. meanwhile Jones has consistently dominated his opponents.

Miguel Torres vs. Antonio Banuelos
i'll take Torres.

[Kris P Lettus]

Torres in the UFC makes my panties moist..

I'd make all the same picks as you, buddy..

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

REALLY REALLY pulling for Bones.

[Next Big Thing]

I agree with every pick except Griffin/Franklin. I think Forrest takes that one.

[The Mask]

best looking card in a while i think.

[Mr. JL]

REALLY REALLY pulling for Bader.

[MoFo]

My 3 fave fighters are all on this card, and they are all probably gonna lose :'(

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

REALLY REALLY pulling for Bader.

lol why? watching him fight is the equivalent to watching paint dry.

[IC Champion]

I think Jones stand up will be overwhelming for Bader, and Bader gets dropped in the first round.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Bader is tough tho. If Bader's wrestling is better than Hammil's, (which I don't know whether or not it is) then Jones hasn't fought a guy with that level of wrestling.

From what I've seen Bader tends to fade as the fight goes on as well, but apart from the Bonnar fight where Bones took it on short notice and gassed a little bit, we haven't seen Bones go very far.

There's a lot of unknown variables going in. Jones SHOULD dismantle the guy, but it's really hard to say what would happen if Bader puts Jones on his back and starts grinding him.

[The Show Off]

Bader is tough tho. If Bader's wrestling is better than Hammil's, (which I don't know whether or not it is) then Jones hasn't fought a guy with that level of wrestling.

From what I've seen Bader tends to fade as the fight goes on as well, but apart from the Bonnar fight where Bones took it on short notice and gassed a little bit, we haven't seen Bones go very far.

There's a lot of unknown variables going in. Jones SHOULD dismantle the guy, but it's really hard to say what would happen if Bader puts Jones on his back and starts grinding him.

To be fair almost everyone gasses against Bonnar. Bonnar may not be the best fighter but he turns ever fight into a dog fight and he's durable as all hell. He gets wobbly and people think they'll be able to drop him so they go all out to finish him and then when they're done Bonnar's face is rare hamburger meat but he's still there.

[CSL]

My boy (bit of a stretch, he trains one of my best friends, I've met him like once) Paul Taylor is fighting also against Gabe Ruediger and since he's a bit of a dick, you should all support him

[Kris P Lettus]

I like Paul Taylor..

[KillerWolf]

To be fair almost everyone gasses against Bonnar. Bonnar may not be the best fighter but he turns ever fight into a dog fight and he's durable as all hell. He gets wobbly and people think they'll be able to drop him so they go all out to finish him and then when they're done Bonnar's face is rare hamburger meat but he's still there

ya know, it's gotten to the point that i dont see a whole lot of victories for Bonnar, especially at the upper echelon of 205, but i think a fight against Bader could potentially be a good rehab fight for Bonnar. i say this because i think that in last couple of fights Bader has been exposed as 1). not having good stand up, and 2). fading in the second half of his fights. could be something Bonnar could capitalize on - if he can stop a takedown.

[Krimzon7]

ya know, it's gotten to the point that i dont see a whole lot of victories for Bonnar, especially at the upper echelon of 205, but i think a fight against Bader could potentially be a good rehab fight for Bonnar. i say this because i think that in last couple of fights Bader has been exposed as 1). not having good stand up, and 2). fading in the second half of his fights. could be something Bonnar could capitalize on - if he can stop a takedown.


THere's almost like a 'legends' LHW division now, with Couture, Ortiz, Lil Nog, Franklin, Bonnar, and Griffin.

You can add the folks that are on the slide like Machida (who is a loss away from being future endeavored), Caine, etc....and you've got a division outside of the championship level guys. So I think Bonnar has a ton of fights left, outside of Griffin.

On your point though, mr wolf....Even if the get's taken down, the guy is a vicious bjj black belt.

[The Show Off]

ya know, it's gotten to the point that i dont see a whole lot of victories for Bonnar, especially at the upper echelon of 205, but i think a fight against Bader could potentially be a good rehab fight for Bonnar. i say this because i think that in last couple of fights Bader has been exposed as 1). not having good stand up, and 2). fading in the second half of his fights. could be something Bonnar could capitalize on - if he can stop a takedown.

Bonner is one of my favorite fighters but the answer to this is that Bonnar wouldn't be able to stop the takedown. I love Bonnar but he's one of those guys that look to put on a show before he looks to win. All guys that favor excitment over victory usually get exactly what they want. And that is excitment but no victory.

Though I hope I'm wrong because I love the American Psycho.

[Tornado]

Just seen that this is going to be at Mandalay Bay, and by coincidence, i'm going to be in Las Vegas at the time. (staying at Luxor, right next door). I've never seen MMA live, so is UFC worth dropping the cash on?

[Kris P Lettus]

I would def go if I ever had the chance.. Supposedly it pricey but I would go..

[Tornado]

Yeah it's something that i've always wanted to see.
I get to Vegas a week before the event, so I may take a trip to the box office to see what's avaliable.

[Kris P Lettus]

http://www.eventticketsexpress.com/ResultsTicket.aspx?evtid=1521034&event=UFC+126%3a+Silva+vs.+Belfort

Not too bad..

[Innovator]

Yeah it's something that i've always wanted to see.
I get to Vegas a week before the event, so I may take a trip to the box office to see what's avaliable.

I've been to one, it's worth dropping the "coin".

[Kris P Lettus]

Which one did you go to??

[IC Champion]

I know I'm going to 129, hell or highwater. I don't care if I get anyone to go, I'll fly there by myself if I have to.

[The Mask]

you can fly? impressed.

[IC Champion]

Yeah, so long as I'm on an aircraft.

[Savio]

From what I've seen Bader tends to fade as the fight goes on as well, but apart from the Bonnar fight where Bones took it on short notice and gassed a little bit, we haven't seen Bones go very far.
Jones/Gusmao went 3 rounds as well. I believe Jones will win but I have only seen a few Bader fights.

[Confused]

Think I'll buy some beer and sit up late and watch this.

Looking forward to seeing Kid Yamamoto in the pre-lims as well!

[The Mask]

i'll be sad if jones doesn't win :'(

[RoXer]

Anyone know of any streams for tomorow since atdhe got taken down? I'm joing the streaming social group rn if its already posted in there.

[MoFo]

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[RoXer]

Oh nice

[CSL]

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I like it.

[Loose Cannon]

:love: Silva


can't wait for tonight

[Savio]

Can we change the name of this thread to UFC 126 (Lets goooo Jon Jones!)

[The Show Off]

Can we change the name of this thread to UFC 126 (Lets goooo Jon Jones!)

But I'm rooting for Bader...

...nah not really goooo Jon Jones!

[Next Big Thing]

I'm so pumped for this! I feel like there's going to be an upset in either the Bader/Jones fight or the Silva/Belfort fight. Griffin/Franklin is a toss up to me + Kid Yamamoto. Crazy card.

[ooTin]

Ok I am not an avid UFC watcher but I do enjoy watching silva... what was up with the white mask?

[The Show Off]

Ok I am not an avid UFC watcher but I do enjoy watching silva... what was up with the white mask?

Belfort said that Anderson Silva has been acting silly the weeks leading up to the fight because Anderson is scared. He says that Anderson puts on a mask to hide how he really feels. So I guess Anderson decided to actually put on a mask.

[Savio]

I'm so pumped for this! I feel like there's going to be an upset in either the Bader/Jones fight or the Silva/Belfort fight. Griffin/Franklin is a toss up to me + Kid Yamamoto. Crazy card.
My girl hates UFC be she agreed to watch Jon Jones/Bader with me. Going to an orchastra with her later today though....an even trade off.

[Loose Cannon]

Anyone know of any streams for tomorow since atdhe got taken down? I'm joing the streaming social group rn if its already posted in there.

yea, if you find one, PM me it please. don't think I;m heading out tonight

[Kris P Lettus]

I just watched the countdown show.. I like all the fighters in the 3 big fights but think I'm going with:

Silva via TKO
Griffin via Decision
Jones via TKO

Pretty fucking pumped..

[CSL]

I hope thou art correct.

[CSL]

Paul Taylor :cool: :heart: :cool:

[Blitz]

Need stream :(

[CSL]

Need Veetle

[Loose Cannon]

sweet, but delete that CSL. just in case.

edit: forgot I was Mod in here. yea, if you need one, I'll PM you what CSL posted. Ot he can if he's on

[CSL]

Stream-ah group-ah

[Kris P Lettus]

Rogan is pumped..

[Kris P Lettus]

Torres :heart:

[Loose Cannon]

christ he has long arms

[Loose Cannon]

crowd shat all over that one

[HeartBreakMan2k]

That may have been the least impressive Torres fight I've seen. Don't get me wrong, I get it - but shit, you want to win but this is your first UFC show..

[Volare]

Can anyone PM me a steam? Rep and a song if you do!!

[Stickman]

stream me

[Jura]

Ice Ice Baby

[Loose Cannon]

shit, the one I just gave you two is gone

[RoXer]

wow just as I sent those PMs it gets taken down

[RoXer]

yeah

[What Would Kevin Do?]

Check your reps.

[Stickman]

mine is still working

[What Would Kevin Do?]

Anyone else?

[Stickman]

fuck

[CSL]

Stream-ah group-ah

[Beauser]

any chance someone could PM me a stream?

[HeartBreakMan2k]

So, I'm still taking Bones - but I have to admit, him talking SO much about being flashy, jumping, spinning, etc has me very concerned he's buying his hype. And if that"s the case then Bader will ground him out I think..

[CSL]

Surely this is Jones' full on coming out party if he wins well here

[Innovator]

Anyone got a stream?

[CSL]

The 2nd and 4th streams in das stream group are working

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Fucking sick transition by Bones

[Volare]

Get your fucking hands on him. LMAO great advice.

[Luscious Lou]

Could anyone please direct me to or pm a stream?

[CSL]

BOOM

[Blitz]

Jon Jones is amazing.

[Innovator]

That dudes ridiculous

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Booooooones

Now please don't fail the piss test. lol.

[CSL]

Whoaaaa Shogun/Bones Jones. I bet that makes Bader feel wonderful.

[Blitz]

Bones/Shogun, tremendous.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Fucking awesome. Bones vs Shogun.... SIIICK

[What Would Kevin Do?]

Jones vs Rua? Awwwwwwww shit.

[Innovator]

OH SHIT

[Volare]

Is it just me or did UFC just show Donavan McNabb high off his ass. I swear tell me I'm not the only one who say him chink-eyed like hell.

[Kris P Lettus]

Marking out rite now guyzzzzzz...

[CSL]

Is it just me or did UFC just show Donavan McNabb high off his ass. I swear tell me I'm not the only one who say him chink-eyed like hell.

I thought he was just being his regular mopey cunt self

[Volare]

Jones vs Rua? Awwwwwwww shit.

Bones Jones could be the man of 2011.

[Kris P Lettus]

I agree about Torres too.. Pretty unimpressive..

[What Would Kevin Do?]

Bones Jones could be the man of 2011.

The scary thing is, he's only going to get better. He's 23. Imagine how good he'll be when he's 26.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

It's amazing to me that people seem to forget just how good Rich Franklin is. Anderson wrecked him multiple times, yes - but that's because he kept beating everyone not named Anderson Silva. He's still a top 10 to me in most areas..

[Innovator]

for thoooose about to rock

[Innovator]

Franklin is awesome, he just runs into the Silva train.

[Loose Cannon]

fucking missed the Jones fight :mad:

[Volare]

FUCK

[CSL]

I'm not sure you're human if you don't at least strongly like Forrest Griffin. Love this man.

[Loose Cannon]

yea, he's awesome. Silva destroyed him, but other then that.....

[Volare]

My site is shot down.

[Volare]

Never mind that shit, just know Rox is the man.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Bones' title shot is in JUST over a month... holy shit.

[Loose Cannon]

what??? he gets it that quick? has that ever happened before?

[Volare]

God dammit back-up down now.

[Innovator]

aaaaaaaaand there goes the stream

[HeartBreakMan2k]

They're saying Newark, that's the 19th of March. And no, I haven't seen that quick of a turn around and it worries me a little. Shogun is a VERY different guy to prepare for than Bader...

[Stickman]

Just lost my stream, help

[Loose Cannon]

Forest has been on top of Franklin the whole fight THUS far

[HeartBreakMan2k]

If you're stream just went down I just repped you a way to watch.

[Loose Cannon]

for thoe who lost streams

[Loose Cannon]

Rd 1 : Griffon

[Fignuts]

Boring first round.

[Innovator]

came back. Forrest controls round 1

[Loose Cannon]

can't believe Jones is fighting next month.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Seriously! And not just some fight. Fucking Shogun for the title...

[Fignuts]

Awesome second round.

[Loose Cannon]

Forest is tagging him with kicks

[Fignuts]

Franklin needs a big third round here.

[CSL]

Dana White says Jones will fight Shogun on March 19 in Newark, as scheduled. "You can do that (stuff) when you're 23," White said.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Still unreal to me...

[HeartBreakMan2k]

I mean, yeah - physically he probably can - but to game plan against Shogun... that's short notice.

[Innovator]

Forrest's conditioning looks to be borderline ricockulous

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Yeah, Forest still has a lot of spring it looks like - pretty impressive for it to be this late.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Forest is just to physically strong for him...

[Innovator]

Cecil Peoples has this 30-26 Franklin

[Loose Cannon]

HERE WE GO

[Loose Cannon]

LET'S GO SILVA

[CSL]

lol not really a fan of this 'Select your fighter' tale of the tape gimmick

[Loose Cannon]

pushing that Mobile UFC game

[Loose Cannon]

I wish I can do Anderson Silva's american voice

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Going for Vitor tonight. Can see him pulling it off too

[Volare]

Let's go Vitor time to make some fucking history!!

[Loose Cannon]

liking Vitor's song here

[Loose Cannon]

kind of wish Anderson kept that beard. that was badass

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Gotta admit, looking at Silva during his walkout gives me flashbacks to Jordan. Just that look of a champion who's done it a million times and knows he could do it a million times more if he wants...

That being said, Let's go Vitor!

[CSL]

Seagal there and ready in case shit goes down

[Volare]

Shit, go figure, Silva has Steven Segal, that means we need to get Vitor Chuck Norris.

[Fignuts]

Seagall vs silva

book it

[Innovator]

IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITS TIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIME

[Blitz]

Wanna see Vitor knock Silva's head off, just because.

[Fignuts]

Wanna see Vitor knock Silva's head off, just because.

this

[Innovator]

Silva is awesome, but LETS GO VITOR

[Innovator]

but if Silva wins, we get Silva/GSP

[CSL]

Wanna see Silva avoid all of Vitor's punches without moving his feet before kneeing his head inside out

[Loose Cannon]

SILVA PUNCH!!!!

[CSL]

THE. FUCKING. MAN.

[Fignuts]

wow are you kidding me

[Volare]

HOLY FUCKING SHIT

[Innovator]

Holy shit

[Blitz]

Goddamn it.

[Loose Cannon]

HOLY SHITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

[HeartBreakMan2k]

lol. At least Joe is honest "it could be that, but I think a lot of people just don't like Anderson"

[Innovator]

FRONT KICK TO THE FACE

[Loose Cannon]

I LOVE SILVAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[CSL]

And people wonder why they avoid him like there life depends on it. Might be because it pretty much does.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

... Holy shit...

[Volare]

Un-fucking believable!!

[Blitz]

Sick kick though.

[CSL]

Silva didn't even wanna hit him again on the floor, he knew he was out

[Loose Cannon]

look how that started. again with those classic Silva head dodges

[Volare]

Silva just said Fuck the World.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

There we go, GSP/Silva has to be next. There's nothing left.

[Volare]

Now has Steven Segal ever used that kick before?

[Volare]

There we go, GSP/Silva has to be next. There's nothing left.

Dana white told a fan at a Q and A that if Silva won and GSP won their next fights he would have no choice but to let it happen. It was on his video blog on youtube.

[Stickman]

I think I'd turn gay for Anderson.

[CSL]

"We fight! We not here to bring it back!"

Ay?

[Fignuts]

"We fight! We not here to bring it back!"

Ay?

Obviously talking about bringing sexy back.

[CSL]

Paul Taylor up in hereeeeeeeee

[Loose Cannon]

"We fight! We not here to bring it back!"

Ay?

and if you wanna win, then make it a win

[Kris P Lettus]

Awesome ko..

[Kris P Lettus]

Silva will destroy GSP..

Mark my words..

[HeartBreakMan2k]

What the hell do you do if he beats GSP? I mean, I can't see him having too many fights left (if he doesn't retire after that fight); do you really want to risk him doing the same thing to your light heavyweight division and then leave? And there's nothing at all left for him at middleweight...

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Silva will destroy GSP..

Mark my words..

Before tonight I would have disagreed... I don't think I can anymore.

[Loose Cannon]

seriously, just watching Silva move has me in awe. the way he fucking moves his hands around while standing in place is like he's doing a magic trick rigght in front of his opponent. Then how he just explodes and runs towards his opponent. the head dodges. just unreal. def not human

[CSL]

Hawt KO for Paul

[What Would Kevin Do?]

The thing is though, he had a hell of a time against Sonnen. If he has an issue with wrestlers, then there may be a few peeps at Light Heavy that could offer a challenge to him,

[HeartBreakMan2k]

True but that was also supposedly with bad ribs. GSP has some of the best MMA wrestling, let's see how much of an issue that poses for him because frankly, I don't think there is anyone at LHW that relies on their wrestling enough to pose the same problem Sonnen did. I mean, Henderson has the wrestling, but didn't use it. I think that's what most LHW fighters will end up doing..

[owenbrown]

holy shit this PPV

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

True but that was also supposedly with bad ribs. GSP has some of the best MMA wrestling, let's see how much of an issue that poses for him because frankly, I don't think there is anyone at LHW that relies on their wrestling enough to pose the same problem Sonnen did. I mean, Henderson has the wrestling, but didn't use it. I think that's what most LHW fighters will end up doing..

Jon Bones Jones. Just outwrestled an NCAA Division I champion.

[Reavant]

no he didnt...

[Next Big Thing]

Anderson turns 36 this year. I wouldn't be surprised if he fights Okami on the Brazil card, then beats GSP, then retires. Plus Silva said at the press conference he's not moving up or down in weight, so no LHWs anytime soon.

Jon Jones is a beast. Wouldn't mind seeing him square off with Rampage whether he wins or loses his fight against Rua.

Sad about Kid Yamamoto not bringing the heat though.

[The Mask]

i predicted the big 3 fights right, i am a beast. happy for jones, i hope he wins. would like to see silva vs. jones too. could be a huge year for silva.

[Jura]

I like how the crowd always cheers against Silva and he always wins. Usually I root for the underdog but I always root for Silva.

It looks like Silva hypnotized Belfort and all of sudden the kick to the face.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

no he didnt...

I thought they said Bader's an NCAA champ. Meh, either way he out wrestle a division one wrestler.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

sorry Division I all American, still fucking impressive no matter what way you put it. He could easily take down Silva, AND Rua.

[IC Champion]

LOL, how does Silva knocking out another striker who was scared to engage with him equal him staying off his back against GSP? Impressive win by Silva for sure, but some people need to go and watch his fight against Chael Sonnen...

[IC Champion]

Oh, but he won that fight...

[IC Champion]

Still can't beleive Silva won the way he did, nothing was happening really, and then a front face kicked knocks Belfort out, insane.

[Stickman]

I'd like Silva vs Couture.

[Kris P Lettus]

LOL, how does Silva knocking out another striker who was scared to engage with him equal him staying off his back against GSP? Impressive win by Silva for sure, but some people need to go and watch his fight against Chael Sonnen...

Belfort is a former hw.. Griffin is a monster who should be a hw.. I just don't see how anyone would bet against Silva vs anyone.. Silva makes great fighters look really bad.. GSP is a great wrestler but if anyone is gonna dominate Silva it's gonna be a bigger guy for a lhw division, not from the welterweight div..

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Clearly you've never seen Franky Edgar fight.

[IC Champion]

Griffin doesn't have the chin or power for HW. You don't see alot of things apparently. Like when Chael Sonnen molested Silva before being subbed like a retard. Wrestling isn't all about size and and strength, it's about skill and and agility, something GSP has both of. Look I don't see why it's hard to understand, Silva isn't knocking anyone out from his back, and GSP is going to put him there. IF Chael Sonnen could do it for 4 round, why the fuck can't the best wrestler in MMA? I know you like Silva, but you don't even want to acknowledge the possiblity of this happening. Could Silva KO GSP? Of Course, but is GSP wrestling so dominant that he can but Silva on his back for 5 rounds and keep him there? Well if you don't believe so maybe you should watch some more UFC.

[IC Champion]

Clearly you've never seen Franky Edgar fight.

A-fucking-Men.

[Kris P Lettus]

Newsreads got it, guys.. Frankie Edgar is gonna put on 30 lbs and out wrestle Silva..

[Kris P Lettus]

I really don't see why you freak out everytime this is discussed.. It is my opinion the Silva would ko gsp if they ever fight..

Really don't see what the big deal is..

[IC Champion]

Belfort is a former hw.. Griffin is a monster who should be a hw.. I just don't see how anyone would bet against Silva vs anyone.. Silva makes great fighters look really bad.. GSP is a great wrestler but if anyone is gonna dominate Silva it's gonna be a bigger guy for a lhw division, not from the welterweight div..

Your problem is your using strikers who played into Silva hands as examples. If Griffin was smart he would have used his size and tried to take Silva down. You're completley over looking his performance against Sonnen, which is probably a more accurate example to use when predicting results against GSP.

[Kris P Lettus]

He was injured and wanted a submission after what Sonnan said about the Nog brothers..

[IC Champion]

Newsreads got it, guys.. Frankie Edgar is gonna put on 30 lbs and out wrestle Silva..

Yes, that's it. Jesus. People said there was no way he could take Penn down and beat Penn, he did it twice, and then no one gave him chance against Maynard, and guess what, he outwrestled Maynard at points in that fight. I beleive that was his point.

[IC Champion]

He was injured and wanted a submission after what Sonnan said about the Nog brothers..

Yeah, that's why he came out in a Gii right? Fuck off, no one lays in guard for 4 rounds and then with 2 minutes left in round 5 decides they want to win now... How far on Silva's dick are you?

[IC Champion]

I really don't see why you freak out everytime this is discussed.. It is my opinion the Silva would ko gsp if they ever fight..

Really don't see what the big deal is..

I don't freak out, you just say it matter of factly when you clearly have no idea what you're talking about.

[Kris P Lettus]

You do realize that you saying GSP will out wrestle Silva is opinion also right??

Stop being a childish hypocrite..

[IC Champion]

I never said it wasn't an opinion. I just don't think GSP is super human, and spew bullshit Silva does, like "he wanted to submit chael, so he got beat up for four rounds to lull him into a false sense of security." I just think it's more likely that GSP takes the fight to the ground then Silva keeps it standing. Watching their previous 5 fights would tell you that, but you only cherry pick examples for Silva.

[IC Champion]

I do give the edge GSP because of his wrestling, but Silva is completley capable of catching him coming in and knocking him out. I also think if the fight goes past round 3 the edge goes to GSP, he gone a full 5 rounds at fll speed, where as I've seen Silva begin to tire in round 3 in his fight against Maia.

[IC Champion]

Also, how about Okami getting fucked out of a title shot? I was looking forward to that fight, apparently Okami is a better wrestler than Sonnen now.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Kris P you're a fucking toss some times. My point is, it's not all about being big, strong and heavy. A lot of the time, wrestling is about athleticism and technique. See: Edgar vs. Penn II, Cain vs. Brock, GSP vs. Jon Fitch and Thiago Alves.

The reason people get mad at you is because while you state your opinions you do so in a brazen manner, as though nothing else could be possible. IC and myself acknowledge that Silva could VERY easily knock out GSP, but we also see things from the other side. Whereas you just "cherry pick" or blindly suck Silva's dick. You can't properly analyze a sport when you're too busy hanging off of someone's nuts. This is why you're annoying to deal with.

Forrest Griffin and Vitor Belfort are not fucking wrestlers, who have proven to be Silva's weakness. They are big muscle bound guys, who tried throwing strikes with one of the fastest pin point strikers in mma history.

Furthermore, Dan Henderson (aka your other lover) who took down Silva for that one round and grinded him pretty good, got fucking schooled by Jake Shields, who was fighting out of his god damned weight class. What happens if GSP completely out grapples or mandhandles Shields, then what will you have to say?

[Innovator]

Rex Ryan loved that KO.

[Kris P Lettus]

I put my money against Silva in the Forrest Griffin fight and will never do it again..

It's not about being on someones nuts, it's about seeing that he is the baddest motherfucker walking the face of the earth..

Can he be beat?? Sure.. Prolly will happen someday, but that doesn't mean I'm gonna pick against him..

Still don't see why you guys get so upset.. Pretty sure its cause you are on GSP's nuts and are being hypocritical..

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

BLARGH you're such a retard. I fucking love Anderson Silva, and I love GSP, but I can acknowledge their weaknesses. You can't do that because you're retarded.

[Reavant]

Clearly you've never seen Franky Edgar fight.

fucking stop it

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

"BLAH BLAH BLAH ANDERSON SILVA'S SUCH A BADASS THEREFORE I CANNOT ACKNOWLEDGE THAT HE COULD LOSE TO GSP, EVEN THOUGH HE HAS PROVEN THAT HE IS ALSO A BADASS"

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

fucking stop it

Go fuck yourself mma expert.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

"I train therefore I know everything, because I know Andrei Arlovski and Mike Russow." STFU I don't care. Yeah you're a badass, doesn't mean you know EVERYTHING.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I've seen pro fighters make the most retarded predictions and put forth the worst analysis.

[Reavant]

Rex Ryan loved that KO.

ong :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[Next Big Thing]

I really wish people would stop trying to say that the reason Anderson took that beating from Chael was so that he could sub him at the last second.

I also wish people would stop forgetting the fact that Silva did have a rib injury in that fight and Sonnen was probably stronger than he's been in any other fight due to his higher levels of testosterone.

Even if GSP is able to get Silva to the ground no one wants to watch a fight like that. GSP doesn't have ground and pound or slick subs and it would probably be more grinding than anything else if it went that way. If anything, GSP's take downs would turn it into a fight where Anderson doesn't engage and merely dances around and mocks GSP for four rounds instead of chasing him or opening himself up to be taken down.

[Reavant]

I've seen pro fighters make the most retarded predictions and put forth the worst analysis.

you pretty much hands down say the most retarded things all the time... give me examples of when both you and IC have ever said anything that make sense ever. Please.... jesus christ dude get a fucking clue

[IC Champion]

"I'm semi-pro/amatuer, I know everything".. I guess after I'm done 6 months of boxing and wrestling traing and get a fight under my belt, I'll make sense then too.

[IC Champion]

"I have my own mma t-shirt"...

[IC Champion]

I really don't see how insults helps here, but it is fun.

[Kris P Lettus]

That's the thing, you guys get super butthurt like I am saying GSP is horrible or something..

I never said that..

I just think that if/when they do fight, Silva will knock him out.. More or a testament to Silva, than a knock at GSP..

You are crying like little bitches..

[IC Champion]

Yes we get it, Silva will knock him, nevermind anything else you said, or your reasoning behind it..

[IC Champion]

I'm just crying though.

[Reavant]

it doesnt even have to do with me being a fighter. It has to do with me paying attention to what goes on like reading articles and watching the fights.


basically the edgar penn fight was just compared to a silva/gsp fight. Thats ridiculous... you have two fights with fighters with complete different styles going at it.


Now against a strong wrestler that can attack the legs, silva can get in trouble. But to say that GSP will put him on his back like sonnen did shows me that you dont even actually think about whats going on.

Silva gets in trouble against guys that will fight through the punches and AGGRESSIVELY go for the takedown. IE sonnen, and lutter.

Ive said it before (and i cant find the thread to just quote it) But GSP isnt necessarily the best wrestler in mma, hes probably just the greatest athlete. How many times have you seen him just blast a double leg into guys to take them down (especially since his loss to serra)? GSP mixes his strikes with takedowns and what he does is get guys to get offensive on the feet, and he then cuts under them to their legs (alves, bj, hardy, even matt serra). When someone is completely off balance, its not hard to take them down.

My point is, GSP is a counter wrestler while silva is a counter striker. GSP not going to get out of position to take a shot. Hes not the same type of wrestler to fight through a bas position like sonnen is able to, and you know hes not going to be over aggressive on the feet. So what is he going to do to open silva up?

Silva has shown that if you dont want to attack him, that hes more than willing to sit back and let the crowd boo. Is GSP willing to put a fight like that on? ow granted GSP gets booed when he lays on the guys, but when your actually taking guys down and throwing punches and staying dominant, its a little different than standing in front of your opponent and dancing.

[Reavant]

and yes krispy saying that silva layed down there for 4 and a half rounds so that he could send a message by submitting sonnen is so incomprehensibly retarded that he should have to wear a helmet

[IC Champion]

That was an actual point you made, and not an insult, so you can be insightful.

[Reavant]

I really don't see how insults helps here, but it is fun.

your right.... i asked you for examples of when youve said anything that at least half-way showed that you knew what you were talking about.

[Reavant]

That was an actual point you made, and not an insult, so you can be insightful.

and clearly you cant be

[Crimson]

Thats a good point

[Crimson]

Good point @ Reav's assesment of a GSP/Silva fight

[IC Champion]

I don't think GSP has to do anything really to open Silva up, just pick his spots. His best bet maybe trying to force Silva into the cage and take him down from there, taking away Silva space to counter. Then of course you have to worry about the Thai clinche, but GSPs grappling should be good enough to avoid it. I'm not sure what GSP would do going into the fight, but I'm sure he and Greg Jackson would come up some plan to get Silva down.

[Jura]

I need Rated R Classic to comment in this thread because he was really high up on Vitor beating Silva for a long time.

[IC Champion]

and clearly you cant be

Yes, clearly.

[Kris P Lettus]

Yes we get it, Silva will knock him, nevermind anything else you said, or your reasoning behind it..

Show me what else I said..

Sure, the Sonnan fight was bad but so was GSP's vs Hardy.. I mean, sure GSP did whatever he wanted transitioning on the ground but he couldn't put Hardy away.. GSP did enough to get a decision.. Don't really see how it's that different than Silva choking Sonnen out in the fifth.. He did enough to win.. GSP couldn't do shit to Hardy on top and Silva has proven he is so much more dangerous off his back than Hardy..

Other than me just out right agreeing with you that GSP will come in and dominate Silva with wretling, I really don't know what you want me to say.. That's why I don't understand why you (and Newstead) freak the fuck out when ever this is brought up..

[IC Champion]

The problem is after 5 rounds GSP won, if the Sonnen/Silva fight had gone the distance we wouldn't even be having this conversation.

[Kris P Lettus]

I don't think GSP has to do anything really to open Silva up, just pick his spots. His best bet maybe trying to force Silva into the cage and take him down from there, taking away Silva space to counter. Then of course you have to worry about the Thai clinche, but GSPs grappling should be good enough to avoid it. I'm not sure what GSP would do going into the fight, but I'm sure he and Greg Jackson would come up some plan to get Silva down.

ow is this different than me saying that Silva will avoid, using his elusiveness and eventually catch GSP coming in??

When I say it, I'm riding Silva's dick etc..

When yall say it about GSP you are being intelligent unbiased fans..

Fucking ridiculous..

[Kris P Lettus]

The problem is after 5 rounds GSP won, if the Sonnen/Silva fight had gone the distance we wouldn't even be having this conversation.

So the difference is Silva finished the fight while GSP couldn't??

Got it..

[Reavant]

I don't think GSP has to do anything really to open Silva up, just pick his spots. His best bet maybe trying to force Silva into the cage and take him down from there, taking away Silva space to counter. Then of course you have to worry about the Thai clinche, but GSPs grappling should be good enough to avoid it. I'm not sure what GSP would do going into the fight, but I'm sure he and Greg Jackson would come up some plan to get Silva down.

Well if he doesnt do anything to open silva up, what spots is he going to be picking? Thats the thing, silva will stay away untill you come after him so to force silva into the cage, you have to bull him into the cage, which means you have to get in his striking range.

And Jackson is good, but its hard for me to imagine a plan he can make to get at silva.

Its weird to say, but I dont think GSP has the skill set to get silva down the ways others have.

[IC Champion]

So the difference is Silva finished the fight while GSP couldn't??

Got it..

Yes, that was it.

[Reavant]

So the difference is Silva finished the fight while GSP couldn't??

Got it..

no the point is, your comparing gsp/hardy (where GSP dominated bell-to-bell) to silva/sonnen (where sonnen dominated and got caught making a mistake)

The performances are completely different. Its apples to oranges dude.

[IC Champion]

Well if he doesnt do anything to open silva up, what spots is he going to be picking? Thats the thing, silva will stay away untill you come after him so to force silva into the cage, you have to bull him into the cage, which means you have to get in his striking range.

And Jackson is good, but its hard for me to imagine a plan he can make to get at silva.

Its weird to say, but I dont think GSP has the skill set to get silva down the ways others have.

He's has to be patient and take his shots at a double, and maybe mix it up with a bull rush or two, he certainly can't approch it the way he has other fights, because of Silvas striking, but you also have to account to Silva not letting go like he normally would for fear of being taken down.

[Reavant]

Thats what im saying though... silva will never let go if he doesnt have to

[Reavant]

and the way judges score fights, hed win by octagon control of some shit... and GSP is very aware of his self image and he will not stand in front of a guy and do nothing if he thinks he could lose especially if the crowd is livid.

[Kris P Lettus]

Yeah but it proves that even though GSP is a good wrestler, he wasn't able to put Hardy away.. Hardy is no where near the level Silva is off his back.. The last time GSP finished someone was Serra 3 years ago.. (BJ Penn gassed and quit..)

GSP is great, but he is not a killer like Silva..

[IC Champion]

and the way judges score fights, hed win by octagon control of some shit... and GSP is very aware of his self image and he will not stand in front of a guy and do nothing if he thinks he could lose especially if the crowd is livid.

True, but GSP can afford to be boo'd, Silva really can't at this point, not that Silva would, or should care. That's why I just rushing in for a double or forcing him into the cage and working a single are his best bets, but like you said Silva doesn't wanna let go if he doesn't have to. Its why GSP has to close distance without striking and just shoot, and maybe the first 2 get stuffed, but eventually I think GSP should be able to get him down, now while doing that, he need to avoid counters and knees.

[IC Champion]

Yeah but it proves that even though GSP is a good wrestler, he wasn't able to put Hardy away.. Hardy is no where near the level Silva is off his back.. The last time GSP finished someone was Serra 3 years ago.. (BJ Penn gassed and quit..)

GSP is great, but he is not a killer like Silva..

They have two completely differenent styles and approaches to fights. Did GSP need to finished Hardy to win? No. Hardy is tough and refused to tap where most others would have. Does he need to finished Silva to win? No, so you point doesn't really matter.

[MoFo]

In to say Jon Jones new LHW champ @ 128.

[IC Champion]

He very well could be, unless Rua comes out with a blitzkrieg of brutal Muai Thai strikes.

[Reavant]

I've seen pro fighters make the most retarded predictions and put forth the worst analysis.

again know what your talking about please...


Do you honestly think pro fighters are unbiased when giving their opinions? That shit if fucking political and theyre not gunna talk shit about their teammate or a friend.

Thats why frank mir is thought of as such a dick... hes unbiased and breaks fights down with out bias. and before you get yourself in a fit, throw out what he says about his own fights.

[Jura]

Steven Seagal helped Anderson Silva with KO front kick (http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/blog/cagewriter/post/Steven-Seagal-helped-Anderson-Silva-with-KO-fron?urn=mma-317407)

[Kris P Lettus]

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[KillerWolf]

you would have to think the advantage would go to Anderson (vs. GSP). that doesnt mean that you cant be pulling for GSP. sometimes, the underdog is just that. it seems to me that those of you who are analyzing GSP as having the advantage are doing so from an emotional place.

My favorite fighter is Rashad Evans. i'm a big-time mark for Rashad. i remember when he was going to face Chuck, i felt very uncomfortable leading up to that fight. Chuck had supposed superior striking (was possibly still regarded as the best striker in MMA), legendary takedown defense, and this fight happened before Rashad had actually come into his own as a contender. all i could say was that "i was nervous about the fight, but i'm pulling for Rashad."

i'm not knocking GSP at all. i'm not saying he can't win. but he's the underdog. accept it.

[Jaton]

I never feel the need to log in here cause I don't usually post, but god damnit. I'm so pissed about how Belfort went out like a bitch.

[Blitz]

Dude got kicked full in the face by probably the best fighter in the world. Let's see you get up.

[Kris P Lettus]

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[The Mask]

silva will beat gsp. if/when GSP takes him down he will just slap on a body triangle and elbow the shit out of GSP until he is a bloody mess.

[IC Champion]

Apparently Rampage was offered the fight against Shogun and turned it down. Kinda odd, I know Rampage still has visions of knees and soccer kicks in his head of Rua, but Rua is coming off a long lay off, and if anyone can attest to ring rust it's Rampage. Just odd that he would turn it down.