James Steele presents EPIC FEUDS (#1) - Triple H vs Shawn Michaels

[James Steele]

Discuss the Triple H vs Shawn Michaels Feud. Post favorite matches/moments/promos and more!

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[Brigstocke]

I liked the bit when HHHe carried the whole feud and the company and the industry on his massive and entertaining back.

[XL]

Y'know, I don't think I've ever seen their 3 Stages of Hell (Armageddon) or Last Man Standing (Rumble) Matches.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Wow did they really use that song on WWE tv? Great song.

[James Steele]

I liked the bit when HHHe carried the whole feud and the company and the industry on his massive and entertaining back.


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MASSIVE & ENTERTAINING

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Can we see how old he is by counting the lines on his back?

[Nightwing]

My favorite moment was probably when they announced Shawn was actually gonna wrestle in the street fight at Summerslam. A huge mark out moment for me. Never thought hed wrestle again, and we got probably imo the best stage of his career following that match.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Pretty certain that every single one of these Epic Feuds that Steele posts will involve Triple H.</font>

[screech]

He wouldn't be pastor of the Church of Triple H if they didn't.

[DLVH84]

I always thought the Street Fight at SummerSlam '02, The 3 Stages Of Hell at Armageddon '02, Last Man Standing at Royal Rumble '04, and Hell In A Cell at Bad Blood '04 were the best matches of the feud.

[The Naitch]

I remember their first feud in 2002 like it was yesterday

I was sad to see the nWo go. But whatever. Then I thought that the guy who attacked HBK in the parking lot was gonna be Goldberg

Then they had their match at Summerslam. This was HBK's first match back as a clean and sober man so coming back in 2002 he felt unsure because originally the plan was a streetfight with Vince. But Triple H made the suggestion to do the match instead. HBK said himself he was unsure of himself having the match (with Vince) but now that his best friend Triple H was doing the match, he felt at ease

I thought it would be a one off thing. But then he came back for Survivor Series to win the WH Championship. HBK's career came around full circle 8 years later. It's the stuff legends are made of.

[XL]

Pretty certain that every single one of these Epic Feuds that Steele posts will involve Triple H.
Well they wouldn't be EPIC wthout H, would they?
I always thought the Street Fight at SummerSlam '02, The 3 Stages Of Hell at Armageddon '02, Last Man Standing at Royal Rumble '04, and Hell In A Cell at Bad Blood '04 were the best matches of the feud.
Are they virtually all of the matches from the feud!?

[James Steele]

Well they wouldn't be EPIC wthout H, would they?

Are they virtually all of the matches from the feud!?

No. They had a lot of RAW matches as well as multi-man matches ie. Triple Threat @ WMXX and Backlash 04. The 6-man tag from Backlash 03, Elimination Chamber at SSlam 03. Shawn Michaels had heavy influence in the Nash/HHH feud in mid-2003 as well which evolved into HBK vs Evolution in late 2003 which once again culiminated in HBK/HHH in Dec 2003 and built all the way up to their "final battle" in an almost hour long Hell in a Cell Match at Bad Blood 2004.

[Savio]

It wasn't that great.

[James Steele]

It wasn't that great.

Ok. What do you like then, Kane Knight Jr?

[Savio]

I thought Eddie vs Rey was mmmmuuuuccchh better.

[James Steele]

I thought Eddie vs Rey was mmmmuuuuccchh better.

You are right. Triple H should have revealed himself as the biological father of Shawn's son.

[Sixx]

Or Shawn's biological father.

[James Steele]

Or Shawn's biological father.

That would have been a mindfuck.

[Sixx]

When Shawn was just a kid, Hunter used to carry him on his massive and entertaining back.

[Jeritron]

It was a great feud, but it went a few PPVs too long and really ended anticlimacticly. It was better when it started, and tailed off as it went along.
I'm not sure that should be the development of an epic feud. It started off hot as hell with the streetfight, elimination chamber, and 3 stages.
But then a year later, they were still going at it and it had sorta jumped the shark. In the summer of 2004 I just wanted it to end.

[James Steele]

It was a great feud, but it went a few PPVs too long and really ended anticlimacticly. It was better when it started, and tailed off as it went along.
I'm not sure that should be the development of an epic feud. It started off hot as hell with the streetfight, elimination chamber, and 3 stages.
But then a year later, they were still going at it and it had sorta jumped the shark. In the summer of 2004 I just wanted it to end.

Which is perfect because it ended in June 2004 inside HELL IN A CELL.

[Savio]

The HHH/HBK feud was just a lot longer than it should have been.

[MoFo]

The finish to the LMS match at Royal Rumble was great.

[Grablot]

Well when u put two of the greatest wrestlers in history together in a feud with a lot of history together of course your gonna get an epic feud but yeah this is definetely one of the best feuds of all time besides Austin/McMahon

[Theo Dious]

The finish to the LMS match at Royal Rumble was great.

Yes it was. Had there been a draw in a LMS in WWE at that point?

[Aguakate]

I think the HHH/HBK feud is very underrated...it was very good.

[Juan]

Underrated by who, exactly?

[Aguakate]

Underrated by who, exactly?

I've read and heard some fans say that it wasn't good because HBK didn't have a long WCH reign, that he was just coming back and wasn't "100% in-ring shape", that everybody knows they are real good friends in real life and that made it difficult to "believe the angle", etc.

I think differently, however. I believe it was awesome.

[James Steele]

"believe it was awesome"

Fuck that. I KNOW IT WAS AWESOME.

[Aguakate]

"believe it was awesome"

Fuck that. I KNOW IT WAS AWESOME.

Each person has his or her opinion.

I, Aguakate, believe it was awesome.

And so does James Steele.

[James Steele]

I know it was awesome.

[Aguakate]

I know it was awesome.

When making love, have you ever by mistake yelled out "PAAAAAAAAAAAAUL!" ?

[The One]

The match at SummerSlam still ranks among my biggest mark out matches of all time. When Shawn was on top of the ladder, acknowledging the crowd, as a fan it was a moment I'll never forget.

Having said that, I felt their feud went on a little too long. Shawn won some, Hunter won most, and ultimately they just stacked gimmicks on for PPVs. I felt like it never really culminated, and eventually they just kind of drifted towards and away from one another over the years only to reform DX down the road. The matches were all worth the trip however, it was just as a program it never really reached what I would call "epic" if I'm being totally honest.

TOVO Fact: Tovo knows his A-B-C's.

[James Steele]

This thread is beginning to implode and my mind explode.

[Aguakate]

This thread is beginning to implode and my mind explode.

I'm actually glad you have retaken your defense of Triple H and his legacy...you kinda left him unattended for a while...nice to see you back on the right path.

[Theo Dious]

Each person has his or her opinion.

And in my opinion, beleiving that HHH vs HBK on any level is less than awesome makes a person a knuckle-dragging, mouth-breathing retard.

[The One]

And in my opinion, beleiving that HHH vs HBK on any level is less than awesome makes a person a knuckle-dragging, mouth-breathing retard.

Does that include me? :eek: It wasn't a problem with either performer, merely the lack of direction and poor booking patterns.

TOVO Fact: Tovo hates the DMV.

[James Steele]

Exactly. At least some red-blooded All-American testicle-clad American gets it.

[Savio]

Yes it was. Had there been a draw in a LMS in WWE at that point?
Mankind vs Rock

[Jeritron]

HHH vs Jericho in 2000. Probably the best Last Man Standing match

[Joesgonnakillyou]

It did have some great matches, HHH had to win it of course.

[Theo Dious]

Does that include me? :eek: It wasn't a problem with either performer, merely the lack of direction and poor booking patterns.

I wasn't really referring to the feud and the booking, just that any time I can see those two go at it I'm a happy guy.