Val Venis Rant on Matt Hardy and Friends [Archive]

Xero

01-13-2011, 11:21 AM

thedamndest

01-13-2011, 11:24 AM

He is right about Matt only being there because Jeff is there.

Loose Cannon

01-13-2011, 11:24 AM

ValVenisEnt Sean Morley
@RAMPAGEXROGERS @NWSWrestling No problem bro. I love to help out the younger guys so they don't end up learning by jumping on a trampoline.

ok, no need to bring Dennis Stamp into this feud

The Pope

01-13-2011, 11:33 AM

He spoke nothing but the truth, and a bit of comedy.

VSG

01-13-2011, 11:34 AM

ValVenisEnt Sean Morley
Blow up dolls have more talent than @MattHardyBrand

Agreed.

Jordan

01-13-2011, 11:35 AM

Wrestlers cutting poorly worded promo's on Twitter is one of the lamest things I have ever seen. If you want to "be a man" don't even respond to the little boys throwing out their play ground insults... Nobody in their right mind is jumping on board the Helm's hate wagon of HBK. He is a jealous never was, and is trying to get a small amount of spotlight so TNA is interested in signing him.

Ermaximus

01-13-2011, 11:36 AM

ValVenisEnt Sean Morley
@ShaneHelmsCom was known to choke pipe but I had no idea he was the locker room Cock Connoisseur.

ValVenisEnt Sean Morley
So @shanehelmscom CAPTAIN DINK SMOKER speaks. Hard 2 understand when his mouth is full of Hardy jizz.

Hahaha. I like Sean Morley even more now. This is great stuff.

Jordan

01-13-2011, 11:36 AM

And the sad thing is that, it will work. TNA and Dixie obviously check Twitter and love the drama, and want to make it into TV storyline!

thedamndest

01-13-2011, 11:38 AM

Matt isn't a terrible wrestler, but he really is only famous because his brother jumps off stuff. He's going to go to TNA and put on the same match he's been putting on for the last six or seven years.

Ermaximus

01-13-2011, 11:38 AM

And the sad thing is that, it will work. TNA and Dixie obviously check Twitter and love the drama, and want to make it into TV storyline!

Yet they still manage to fuck it up. These things could write themselves and TNA would still find a way to screw up.

Xero

01-13-2011, 11:40 AM

Isn't he signed to WWE as an agent?

Ermaximus

01-13-2011, 11:45 AM

Isn't he signed to WWE as an agent?

I believe so yes.

Cool King

01-13-2011, 11:45 AM

ValVenisEnt Sean Morley
@ShaneHelmsCom was known to choke pipe but I had no idea he was the locker room Cock Connoisseur.

ValVenisEnt Sean Morley
So @shanehelmscom CAPTAIN DINK SMOKER speaks. Hard 2 understand when his mouth is full of Hardy jizz.

Hahaha. I like Sean Morley even more now. This is great stuff.

And this.

ValVenisEnt Sean Morley
ATT ALL FEMALES! If u shag @MattHardyBrand, r u a lesbian for shagging a PUSSY??? #EXW>Omega

TheAdamEvansFan

01-13-2011, 12:05 PM

Sorry but VAL VENIS? GTFO

Your TNA run was short lived because you were overweight, bald, and old.

Stop being jealous on others for main eventing, even if it's because of their connections.

This just goes to show how UNEDUCATED some wrestlers are. His spelling is awful.

It makes me want to stop watching wrestling forever. (not stop posting here, srry guys!)

It's just like when Test would rant about WWE and it's PG rating. He couldn't spell worth shit.

These are the type of people who take steroids to further their career because they can't make up for it on MIC like The Miz.

GTFO SEAN MORLEY, YOU'RE A WASHED UP HAS BEEN.

bigslimjj

01-13-2011, 12:09 PM

Bullet proof rings? WTF? I have never seen a bullet proof ring.lol

Johnny Vegas

01-13-2011, 12:12 PM

Damn, Morley is going in lol

Haze

01-13-2011, 12:13 PM

Sorry but VAL VENIS? GTFO

Your TNA run was short lived because you were overweight, bald, and old.

Stop being jealous on others for main eventing, even if it's because of their connections.

This just goes to show how UNEDUCATED some wrestlers are. His spelling is awful.

It makes me want to stop watching wrestling forever. (not stop posting here, srry guys!)

It's just like when Test would rant about WWE and it's PG rating. He couldn't spell worth shit.

These are the type of people who take steroids to further their career because they can't make up for it on MIC like The Miz.

GTFO SEAN MORLEY, YOU'RE A WASHED UP HAS BEEN.

Morley's run was short lived because he left, not because he was fired.

Johnny Vegas

01-13-2011, 12:14 PM

C'mon TAEF, Miz can't work the microphone?? :roll: i'm not on any Miz bandwagon, but i'll give credit where credit is due. He's only 2nd the Cena on RAW and probably 4th overall in the WWE.

Nightwing

01-13-2011, 12:15 PM

ok, no need to bring Dennis Stamp into this feud

Val Venis and Dennis Stamp vs Matt Hardy and Shane Helms at Against All Odds.

Schlomey

01-13-2011, 12:23 PM

he's right in the video but I'm not a fan of trash talking over twitter message..kinda childish.

SlickyTrickyDamon

01-13-2011, 12:25 PM

Isn't he supposed to be saying Sports Entertainment since he's working for World Wrestling Entertainment?

Also isn't this video evidence that he's using a cell phone while driving? Shouldn't he get a ticket for this?

SlickyTrickyDamon

01-13-2011, 12:29 PM

Bullet proof rings? WTF? I have never seen a bullet proof ring.lol

I'm sure Classie Freddie Blassie would have loved to have bulletproof rings from all the death threats he received playing a heel.

Mooияakeя™

01-13-2011, 12:37 PM

"SHAG" Thought that was just over here, but he is a Canuck I guess, may grab it through there.

MoFo

01-13-2011, 12:45 PM

hahaha Big Valbowski is my new hero.

SlickyTrickyDamon

01-13-2011, 12:49 PM

"SHAG" Thought that was just over here, but he is a Canuck I guess, may grab it through there.

Austin Powers brought Shag to the American vernacular for a time. Yeah baby yeah!

Loose Cannon

01-13-2011, 01:08 PM

Val Venis and Dennis Stamp vs Matt Hardy and Shane Helms at Against All Odds.

Dennis will jump for joy when he finds out he's been booked

JimmyMess

01-13-2011, 01:08 PM

I'm a Val Venis mark to start so I'm biased.

A. Matt Hardy is a stupid twat to begin with.
B. His brother needs a kick in the teeth to straighten himself out.
C. Shane Helms is a douchebage who is pissed off that his legacy is the Hurricane.

Right fucking on Morley!

TheAdamEvansFan

01-13-2011, 01:24 PM

I bet Morley lives in a trailer.

FourFifty

01-13-2011, 01:47 PM

I'm trying to look at this from a non biased standpoint...

Jeff Hardy is an idiot, and TNA should have never pushed him as far as they have since the whole "Drug charges" thingie came up. Seriously. Putting that man in the spot light is a bad choice.

Matt Hardy is a whiny little bitch that shouldn't be hired to any company because of how often he bitches on youtube and twitter. If I recall right he showed a video of Rey without his mask. WWE is very protective of his mask because of all the merch it pushes. So what Matt Hardy is saying is "If I don't get my way I'll piss all over what you hold dear."

Shane Helms is a talented asshole. If he would have kept his cool I could have seen him sign back on with WWE before Mania. His Hurricane gimmick could have been just what WWE needs with their lack of healthy faces.

Val Venis isn't looking too hot himself, by sinking down to their level, however I tend to have more respect for the man that jumps into a fight/argument when outnumbered. I wish he would clean up his language and sound a little more articulate.

Adam Evans is a no talented nobody who wrestlers in back yards (when he's lucky), and thus will defend people who wrestled in back yards. He also thinks that Mick Foley is an aerial acrobat for jumping off of his roof, and Sick Nick Mondo is a technical genius.

Robodiv

01-13-2011, 02:00 PM

Wonder if he'll get released for this haha.

Waylander

01-13-2011, 02:06 PM

I just gained a whole lot more respect for Val.

Robodiv

01-13-2011, 02:08 PM

I can just picture it if Val Venis was Scottish.

"Matt, your a wee dick, your brothers a wee dick, and you pal is a wee poof!"

parkmania

01-13-2011, 02:12 PM

When did Morley get re-hired by WWE? Last I had heard was that after he left TNA he was working with AAA or someone in Mexico.

owenbrown

01-13-2011, 02:15 PM

Adam Evans is a no talented nobody who wrestlers in back yards (when he's lucky), and thus will defend people who wrestled in back yards. He also thinks that Mick Foley is an aerial acrobat for jumping off of his roof, and Sick Nick Mondo is a technical genius.

Adam Evans and Nick Mondo probably both work at the same last Blockbuster Video that hasn't been shut down due to bankruptcy(if that is possible).

Dark-Slicer Diago

01-13-2011, 02:16 PM

When did Morley get re-hired by WWE? Last I had heard was that after he left TNA he was working with AAA or someone in Mexico.

I think it was sometime in October in a Producer role or something.

jskinnyg

01-13-2011, 02:44 PM

Love this guy... Trash talking over the internet, not so much... But at least he is geting out there what a LOT of us have been saying and thinking for a LOOOONG time...

JimmyMess

01-13-2011, 03:19 PM

I actually am now more interested in knowing who the fuck Adam Evans is. Without looking it up... his name sounds like he's the little kid with the glasses who gets picked last in dodgeball.

MIZantine Empire

01-13-2011, 03:28 PM

It's just like when Test would rant about WWE and it's PG rating. He couldn't spell worth shit.

hard to use spell check when you are dead...just sayin

Not Booked

01-13-2011, 03:30 PM

The Hardy's were awesome during the attitude era. For years they routinely stole the show on raw (and superstars). They brought back classic tag team wrestling full of coordination and double-teams, with a modern twist and moves unseen in mainstream wrestling.

Matt was clearly the one calling the matches and putting things together. He took just as many bumps as jeff but they weren't the big spots so jeff overshadows him and people forget what matt did.

Val Venis was a great wrestler with a controversial gimmick that was over - though not even close to the way the hardy's and later jeff were over.

Val never really made it and Matt and Jeff never lived up to their potential after the split. Matt's an internet crybaby and Jeff's a drug addict.

If you think Val's bitter, incoherent ranting is something cool I'm not sure it's a great reflection on you as a person. The whole thing is pretty sad really.

Damian Rey

01-13-2011, 03:30 PM

I agree with some things that Venis says. Matt Hardy does lack charisma. Honestly, he's rather bland image wise. But I do think that, when in shape and healthy, he is a solid hand.

Jeff on the other hand, is very charismatic, but doesn't, to me, have the same ring skills as his brother. They kind of balance each other out.

Shane Helms? Meh. Solid worker, but nothing special. Same with Moore.

Morely's also right in saying that neither Hardy's really paid any dues, and that Jeff jumping off of shit is what got them over.

Damian Rey

01-13-2011, 03:34 PM

The Hardy's were awesome during the attitude era. For years they routinely stole the show on raw (and superstars). They brought back classic tag team wrestling full of coordination and double-teams, with a modern twist and moves unseen in mainstream wrestling.

Matt was clearly the one calling the matches and putting things together. He took just as many bumps as jeff but they weren't the big spots so jeff overshadows him and people forget what matt did.

Val Venis was a great wrestler with a controversial gimmick that was over - though not even close to the way the hardy's and later jeff were over.

Val never really made it and Matt and Jeff never lived up to their potential after the split. Matt's an internet crybaby and Jeff's a drug addict.

If you think Val's bitter, incoherent ranting is something cool I'm not sure it's a great reflection on you as a person. The whole thing is pretty sad really.

Jeff got to the main event eventually in WWE. It was Matt that never really hit a peak despite there being several oppurtunities.

I don't think Val is all that bitter. I think he sounds more pissed off and annoyed about how the Hardy's go about their business and how they are basically marks for themselves while Venus accepted role after role without so much as a peep.

Xero

01-13-2011, 03:34 PM

The Hardy's were awesome during the attitude era. For years they routinely stole the show on raw (and superstars). They brought back classic tag team wrestling full of coordination and double-teams, with a modern twist and moves unseen in mainstream wrestling.

Matt was clearly the one calling the matches and putting things together. He took just as many bumps as jeff but they weren't the big spots so jeff overshadows him and people forget what matt did.

Val Venis was a great wrestler with a controversial gimmick that was over - though not even close to the way the hardy's and later jeff were over.

Val never really made it and Matt and Jeff never lived up to their potential after the split. Matt's an internet crybaby and Jeff's a drug addict.

If you think Val's bitter, incoherent ranting is something cool I'm not sure it's a great reflection on you as a person. The whole thing is pretty sad really.

Jeff was always a drug addict.

SlickyTrickyDamon

01-13-2011, 03:38 PM

Jeff was always a drug addict.

Getting that piece of information wrong is why he's never booked.

Xero

01-13-2011, 03:41 PM

He's like Dennis Stamp without the trampoline.

CSL

01-13-2011, 03:49 PM

Whether he thinks he's working people or shooting, this is pretty pathetic.

TheAdamEvansFan

01-13-2011, 04:13 PM

I actually am now more interested in knowing who the fuck Adam Evans is. Without looking it up... his name sounds like he's the little kid with the glasses who gets picked last in dodgeball.

--

Adam Evans is a legend who took nothing from noone.

Growing up in a small town of 300, he excelled against the *farming community stereotype* and broke free.

As a child, he was always the tallest, strongest, most gifted individual in the class of 19. At recess, he would tower over the bullies and put them in their rightful place. He once saved a girl from falling off the monkey bars.

His room was filled with Hulk Hogan and Randy Savage posters, along with a poster of Xero.

He was always told that if you want to be someone, get a job at a factory.

He wrestled with the likes of CM Spunk, and made himself known throughout the Midwest.

He's wrestled on Raw, ECW, and Smackdown along with many independent wrestling companies.

He's currently in Florida Championship Wrestling, waiting to become the next WINNER of Tough Enough.

Stay still my viewers, get ready to witness the NEW BREED.

ooTin

01-13-2011, 05:18 PM

I agree with every word that the big Valboski said... it takes 0 talent to jump off a ladder on to another ladder... period.

BollywoodSingh

01-13-2011, 05:51 PM

If Val Venis thinks he has more talent than Matt or Jeff Hardy (especially 1999 Jeff Hardy), then he is mistaken.

Mooияakeя™

01-13-2011, 06:02 PM

I don't see how he could get released. He's dissing the competition.

Nicky Fives

01-13-2011, 06:08 PM

100% with Val..... although of the 4 guys he mentioned, I actually like Shane Helms.....

Vastardikai

01-13-2011, 06:19 PM

If Val Venis thinks he has more talent than Matt or Jeff Hardy (especially 1999 Jeff Hardy), then he is mistaken.

I can. Val Venis could actually, you know, WORK. Matt was a decent worker. But Val was a good worker in a bad gimmick.

weather vane

01-13-2011, 08:11 PM

hahaha go get circumcised

Anybody Thrilla

01-13-2011, 09:26 PM

Calling all Hardy fans gay. Val sounds like he could post here.

Shadrick

01-13-2011, 11:40 PM

Calling all Hardy fans gay. Val sounds like he could post here.

Oh but he does....

*rips off mask*

Helllllloooooooooo Laddddiiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeeesssssss.

Theo Dious

01-13-2011, 11:40 PM

WoW. Val seems awfully butt-hurt about something.

The Hardys never paid their dues? So they didn't start out as absolute jobbers and work their way in from the bottom up? Christ, JBL has stated that they paid their dues, and that guy will shove a bar of soap up your ass if he thinks you didn't.

And yeah, Paul London might out-work Matt Hardy, until he saw something shiny or someone threw a dime bag at him.

Whatever else Matt Hardy is (at times he's been an emo crybaby, a jealous older brother, and an angry boyfriend) saying he has no talent and no charisma is idiotic. People ate up the Mattitude gimmick, they went nuts for Matt vs Edge, and Matt vs MVP was constantly trumpted as the best part of Smackdown at the time. Val sounds like he's trying to earn good-boy points to try to avoid getting fired again. And Val has loads of talent. If anything I think he has his panties in a twist because people take to Matt and Jeff more than to him.

Theo Dious

01-13-2011, 11:41 PM

Oh but he does....

*rips off mask*

Helllllloooooooooo Laddddiiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeeesssssss.

We all know that there's only one poster here who could be Val in disguise.

Mr. Nerfect

01-14-2011, 01:23 AM

Helllllllooooooooooo, TPWW! Heh, heh, heh...

I'm really surprised to see this video. For one, Sean Morley has always kept a quiet profile. I think someone hit the nail on the head when they say that Morley is annoyed to see The Hardys acting like marks for themselves, when Morley spent so much of his career as an enhancement guy, despite being able to out-work most of the roster.

I agree that Val could perhaps clean it up, and post in a more educated manor (the guy is not an idiot, I think he just buys into internet shorthand a little too much), and I hope there are no repercussions on Val for this. Did he just call Michael Hayes washed up and broken? I guess Morley must be a producer on Monday Night RAW...

I'm also surprised to hear Val say Paul London could work circles around Matt Hardy. It's true, but just so blunt. I don't agree that Matt and Jeff have ZERO talent. Matt could at least work a decent match, and had it in him to play at least one interesting character. But if you grant Val some hyperbole, then yes -- what he is saying is pretty much right. Jumping off one ladder into another ladder doesn't take talent, and that style of match is essentially what perpetuated The Hardys. I've been a mark for Matt in the past, but let's face it -- the two were essentially jobbers before the Terri Invitational Tournament.

Kane Knight

01-14-2011, 02:02 AM

Gayest. Feud. Ever.

Haze

01-14-2011, 07:30 AM

Calling all Hardy fans gay. Val sounds like he could post here.

Maybe he already does? :shifty:

CSL

01-14-2011, 01:50 PM

I'm also surprised to hear Val say Paul London could work circles around Matt Hardy. It's true, but just so blunt. I don't agree that Matt and Jeff have ZERO talent. Matt could at least work a decent match, and had it in him to play at least one interesting character. But if you grant Val some hyperbole, then yes -- what he is saying is pretty much right. Jumping off one ladder into another ladder doesn't take talent, and that style of match is essentially what perpetuated The Hardys. I've been a mark for Matt in the past, but let's face it -- the two were essentially jobbers before the Terri Invitational Tournament.

I'm not seeing your point here. The Ringmaster was practically a jobber before he became Stone Cold. The Miz was Marty Jannetty before somebody gave him a microphone. Kane was a dentist before somebody gave him a mask.

Tazz Dan

01-14-2011, 05:04 PM

I can't see why people would hate on Val for this. It's pretty ballsy taking people on via twitter when that's where they seem to live their lives. They don't seem to have any problems attacking anybody so if they can't handle a bit of the same medicine what does it really say about them?

CSL

01-14-2011, 07:57 PM

Is that a serious post?

SlickyTrickyDamon

01-14-2011, 08:01 PM

Has Val Venis ever responded to Missy Hyatt saying that he had a small dick when he fucked her?

I guess Kai En Tai really did choppy choppy his pee pee!

CSL

01-14-2011, 08:09 PM

Can't be too harsh on Val there, fucking Missy Hyatt probably resembles a malnourished infant diving into a crater.

Jeritron

01-14-2011, 09:07 PM

I would love to see the look on Noid's face when Morley puts London over

dronepool

01-14-2011, 09:41 PM

I actually like both the Hardyz and Val... but Val sounds bitter. Maybe it's because the so called dink smoking washed up hack is getting a chance and doing shit while Val is sitting around and slinging insults on twitter and not getting calls for gigs...

Drakul

01-14-2011, 09:49 PM

So much DINK in those tweets.

http://www.operatorchan.org/s/src/s17896_mr__dink.jpg

Fignuts

01-14-2011, 10:16 PM

It would be good if it was just the video, and not 8545634673586346 tweets along with it. Guy sounds as obsessed as Helms.

Also lol if that is his actual voice, at all times. Cracking up thinking about him ordering at taco bell.

CSL

01-14-2011, 10:26 PM

Didn't even notice the video. Just watched it. I was wondering what people were on about in terms of calling him 'bitter' but I see what you mean now. The guy is a fucking idiot. Banging on about 'real pro wrestling fans' in some attempt to appease the smarks. What a cunt.

CSL

01-14-2011, 10:31 PM

Reading through this thread now as well, my god some of you are utterly clueless.

Mr. Nerfect

01-14-2011, 11:01 PM

I'm not seeing your point here. The Ringmaster was practically a jobber before he became Stone Cold. The Miz was Marty Jannetty before somebody gave him a microphone. Kane was a dentist before somebody gave him a mask.

You're right. You're not seeing my point.

Mr. Nerfect

01-14-2011, 11:03 PM

I actually like both the Hardyz and Val... but Val sounds bitter. Maybe it's because the so called dink smoking washed up hack is getting a chance and doing shit while Val is sitting around and slinging insults on twitter and not getting calls for gigs...

Val is employed by the WWE.

The Show Off

01-14-2011, 11:07 PM

This is just silliness that I don't get too bothered by. I liked Val Venis thought he never quite got as far as he could have, but I remember hearing somewhere that he was the type of guy that would never activly politic for storylines so he's left with the legacy that he has which is good better than 99% of people that have aspirations of being a wrestler.

As for Jeff Hardy and Matt Hardy... Well I've never been a big fan of Jeff but I've always been a mark for Matt. I've said it before and I'll say it again Matt Hardy could have been (still could but its doubtful) a huge star. He has a natural chrisma about him and he can work a good match technically, high flying wise, and psycologically. He has a great mind for the buisness and is a self promoter (all the great wrestlers are). All he needed was that one creative mind to really run with him, and he never had it. He's basically gotten himself over (both as a heel and a face) on a number of occasions but the WWE never advanced him.

Did he whine and complain about being "held back." Yeah. Was that kind of a bitch move? Yeah. But I can't really blame him. It must be frustrating to be so close to your childhood dream but have it taken away from you time after time whereas your brother that has a passing interest in the buisness achieves it's ultimate reward and then desides to leave beacuse he's "burned out." Does this justify his rants and twitters and youtube videos? No. But it explains it.

I wish Matt Hardy well in TNA. At least he's in the promotion he'll be given the chance to be a main eventer though if Matt Hardy were truly honest he'd admit that winning the TNA Championship is a bronze medal at best when compaired to WWE gold.

Mr. Nerfect

01-14-2011, 11:13 PM

Good post, Show Off. Matt Hardy essentially got his brother to do really stupid shit to get them over, and Matt got a lot of longetivity out of it, but never got as over as his crazy brother did. It's a bit sad, but that's the way they rolled the dice.

Theo Dious

01-14-2011, 11:14 PM

All he needed was that one creative mind to really run with him, and he never had it.

The feud with MVP would have taken him somewhere big if not for his damn appendix. :mad:

CSL

01-14-2011, 11:19 PM

You're right. You're not seeing my point.

Don't even know how to respond to this. I assume you think your post had some variety of grand obvious point so you aren't going to explain what you meant?

The Show Off

01-14-2011, 11:26 PM

The feud with MVP would have taken him somewhere big if not for his damn appendix. :mad:

That did suck, it was a great feud. However, I think that feud being delayed hurt MVP more than it hurt Hardy. I think if the if Hardy were to have taken the US title off him at the logical time of the storyline (ie Hardy's appendix didn't happen) I think MVP would have been pushed as a main event level heel.

God I can't believe how stupid the WWE is for not running with MVP...

I guess you can insert many names at the end of that sentence actually the main one being CHRISTIAN!

Sorry. The lack of a main event run of Christian in the WWE is a crime against logic.

Mr. Nerfect

01-15-2011, 01:56 AM

Don't even know how to respond to this. I assume you think your post had some variety of grand obvious point so you aren't going to explain what you meant?

Bingo.

Mr. Nerfect

01-15-2011, 01:58 AM

A lot of Matt Hardy's potential main event runs were cut short. Mattitude could have taken him higher; his return in 2005 should have taken him higher; his feud with MVP could have taken him higher; he could have received a better push when Jeff left (it would have been natural for Matt to try and avenge his brother). But Matt doesn't know the right way to go about things. Plus, he didn't take the time he needed from his surgeries and stuff to really stay in shape.

Still, the more time that passes, and it just becomes clearer and clearer Matt Hardy is a complete mark for himself. Hardy really could have helped usher in a wave of new talent, but instead he wants to bitch about how he should be getting pushed to the top. Yeah, there may be a point in there, but guys like Christian and such go to work and do their job, and hopefully it pays off for them in time.

CSL

01-15-2011, 02:19 AM

lol bless you

Mr. Nerfect

01-15-2011, 02:27 AM

And bless you, sir.

Kane Knight

01-15-2011, 02:50 AM

What a bunch of dink smokers.

Mr. Nerfect

01-15-2011, 05:39 AM

Get off the fucking trampoline, KK.

Shadrick

01-15-2011, 07:59 AM

Hehehe...you know SOMETHIN LADIESS...

THE BIG VALBOWSKI IS A LOT LIKE A RUBIX CUUUUUBE.

HEHEHEHE.....YOU KNOW.....

THE MORE YOU PLAY WITH IT.....MMMMM...THE HARDER IT GETS...HEHEHEHE. *GYRATES*

Kane Knight

01-15-2011, 08:10 AM

Get off the fucking trampoline, KK.

spoken like a true dink smoker lolol

Gass

01-15-2011, 08:59 AM

to moore's credit, I don't think he's really participating in this bitch fest. No need to drag him into it.

Mr. Nerfect

01-15-2011, 09:22 AM

spoken like a true dink smoker lolol

i dink you need evidance to make this claims. lol

Mr. Nerfect

01-15-2011, 09:23 AM

to moore's credit, I don't think he's really participating in this bitch fest. No need to drag him into it.

Shannon Moore would abbreviate everything, so TGHDUT.

Wasn't Joey Mercury an OMEGA guy? He's still under WWE contract, and he's a damn good worker and talker. Actually, he's probably the best of the OMEGA lot.

dronepool

01-15-2011, 04:35 PM

Just saw Matt's new video and if he's not lying, I'll take his his side of this.

Xero

01-15-2011, 04:36 PM

Yeah, agreed.

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Fignuts

01-15-2011, 05:22 PM

I'm not taking any side, because I think they are all morons.

Kane Knight

01-15-2011, 06:01 PM

I'm not taking any side, because I think they are all morons.

I think you mean dink smoker lololol

Grablot

01-15-2011, 06:20 PM

Val must be pissed off that Mat had a better career than he ever did.

Shadrick

01-15-2011, 09:44 PM

Define "better career"

Xero

01-15-2011, 10:07 PM

Matt was one of the Hardy Boyz, and while the lesser cared about brother, they were involved in some of the most memorable matches of all time.

Val Venis got his dick chopped off.

Advantage: Matt

blake639raw

01-15-2011, 10:16 PM

At one time, I believed Matt Hardy was something special. I honestly believed he has just burned out. If he was smart, he would have just taken a few years off from WWE and recharged his batteries. In a few years time, he could come back and be alot fresher. I still believe he has talent, even if he acts like a complete tool most of the time.

FourFifty

01-15-2011, 10:20 PM

Matt was one of the Hardy Boyz, and while the lesser cared about brother, they were involved in some of the most memorable matches of all time.

Val Venis got his dick chopped off.

Advantage: Matt

Xero.... James.... you have been a friend and a confidant. I have sought your confidence as it pertains to tipsters and my personal life. However, I have to admittedly disagree. While Matt may have had more high profile matches than Sean Morley, Sean has a lower chance of being wheel chair before he's 50.
Matt Hardy is a whiny little bitch. Sean gave him a chance to be relevant on the indy scene again, and Matt Hardy pissed all over it much like he pissed all over WWE by showing Rey without his mask on.

Shadrick

01-15-2011, 11:33 PM

Matt was one of the Hardy Boyz, and while the lesser cared about brother, they were involved in some of the most memorable matches of all time.

Val Venis got his dick chopped off.

Advantage: Matt

This may just be me, but every memorable part of every match always had Jeff doing something with a little assistance from Matt, or Jeff by himself. I can't remember one spot in one of those memorable matches that it was just Matt doing some shit that made you say "Man, this guys talented"

Damian Rey

01-15-2011, 11:39 PM

At one time, I believed Matt Hardy was something special. I honestly believed he has just burned out. If he was smart, he would have just taken a few years off from WWE and recharged his batteries. In a few years time, he could come back and be alot fresher. I still believe he has talent, even if he acts like a complete tool most of the time.

This is actually what I was really hoping he'd do. But it was inevitable that he'd join TNA. With Jeff at the top of the company, it's only smart for him to sign and ride the coattails and possibly get that one main event push he's sought after for so long.

I think he is his own worst enemy. The way he goes about things are ridiculous. He acts like a spoiled child. Getting into internet feuds, making mindless videos of yourself and posting them on youtube, bragging about how many twitter followers you have, really, who gives a fuck? What does it have to do with grand scheme of things concerning his career? Nothing.

The internet can be a very useful, powerful tool, but I think Matt goes about using it in the wrong ways.

Mr. Nerfect

01-16-2011, 12:18 AM

I'm not sure if I believe Matt Hardy's video. Sean Morley works for the WWE. Granted, the WWE has let some guys under contract work indy shows in the past, but I really don't think the WWE would let a TNA guy feud with one of their employees. I'd like to see some evidence provided by Hardy.

Sean Morley should have just been the better man and left Hardy to destroy himself.

Damian Rey

01-16-2011, 12:21 AM

I'm not sure if I believe Matt Hardy's video. Sean Morley works for the WWE. Granted, the WWE has let some guys under contract work indy shows in the past, but I really don't think the WWE would let a TNA guy feud with one of their employees. I'd like to see some evidence provided by Hardy.

Sean Morley should have just been the better man and left Hardy to destroy himself.

Yea...that;s the one thing that has kept me from taking sides here. Val is emplyed for the biggest wrestling company in the world, and in all reality, should keep quiet and stay away from mindless internet bickering.

And at the same time, Matt should get over it. He's not in WWE anymore, and being in TNA, greater opportunities undoubtedly lie ahead.

Not to mention, any asswhipe can whip up an email claiming "so and so said this" and present it as fact.

Mr. Nerfect

01-16-2011, 12:25 AM

See, that's just it. I mean, it doesn't make sense that Sean Morley would get involved in the first place. He has a "lifer's" job, and essentially puts it at risk by giving himself such a high profile outside of his job backstage. That is probably the only thing I believe gives credence to what Matt Hardy is saying. Why Morley would get involved in the first place is a mystery, unless he just really doesn't like Matt Hardy from his time with the WWE -- and judging by how Matt Hardy's personality has revealed itself -- who could really blame him? Especially when Morley was always a company man, and Matt always wanted a little more (after towing line for years, granted).

It probably is a work, but Morley would of expected that someone in the WWE would see it, and wouldn't give a shit. There probably is some element of work going on here, no doubt. Maybe Morley just lost a bet and they decided that he'd be the guy that would get on the internet and fuck around with Matt Hardy?

Damian Rey

01-16-2011, 12:50 AM

See, that's just it. I mean, it doesn't make sense that Sean Morley would get involved in the first place. He has a "lifer's" job, and essentially puts it at risk by giving himself such a high profile outside of his job backstage. That is probably the only thing I believe gives credence to what Matt Hardy is saying. Why Morley would get involved in the first place is a mystery, unless he just really doesn't like Matt Hardy from his time with the WWE -- and judging by how Matt Hardy's personality has revealed itself -- who could really blame him? Especially when Morley was always a company man, and Matt always wanted a little more (after towing line for years, granted).

It probably is a work, but Morley would of expected that someone in the WWE would see it, and wouldn't give a shit. There probably is some element of work going on here, no doubt. Maybe Morley just lost a bet and they decided that he'd be the guy that would get on the internet and fuck around with Matt Hardy?

Maybe.

I don't really know what to think. I'd like to think it's a work, but knowing Matt Hardy, and his enfatuation with getting attention by doing stupid things like this, I have some doubt this is a work.

Kane Knight

01-16-2011, 01:26 AM

It's all a work. Everything.

Kane Knight

01-16-2011, 01:26 AM

In case I was too subtle, let me throw in...

"....Ever."

Shisen Kopf

01-16-2011, 08:48 AM

Fatt Hardy

Xero

01-16-2011, 11:46 AM

Xero.... James.... you have been a friend and a confidant. I have sought your confidence as it pertains to tipsters and my personal life. However, I have to admittedly disagree. While Matt may have had more high profile matches than Sean Morley, Sean has a lower chance of being wheel chair before he's 50.
Matt Hardy is a whiny little bitch. Sean gave him a chance to be relevant on the indy scene again, and Matt Hardy pissed all over it much like he pissed all over WWE by showing Rey without his mask on.

I 100% agree with everything you said. But from a career success standpoint, Matt clearly has the edge over Venis.

Yes, Matt will likely be in a wheel chair in 20 years, but people will know who he is.

Shadrick

01-16-2011, 01:54 PM

I 100% agree with everything you said. But from a career success standpoint, Matt clearly has the edge over Venis.

Yes, Matt will likely be in a wheel chair in 20 years, but people will know who he is.

Yeah, Jeff Hardy's brother.

Xero

01-16-2011, 02:40 PM

And Val Venis will be remembered for what exactly?

McLegend

01-16-2011, 02:42 PM

Is it acceptable in our society for 30 something year old men to feud over the internet?

Xero

01-16-2011, 02:44 PM

It's a work, so it's okay.

McLegend

01-16-2011, 02:49 PM

I haven't watched any of the videos so that's good to hear.

Ol Dirty Dastard

01-16-2011, 02:59 PM

Considering Morley is calling them dink smokers it's pretty clear he's not being all that serious.

Nightwing

01-16-2011, 03:38 PM

I dont get the point of airing it out in public when you could do mature thing of just deleting Matt Hardy off your facebook. Problem solved.

Mr. Nerfect

01-16-2011, 05:36 PM

Morley has reportedly denied Hardy's claims on his Twitter, claiming he hasn't talked to anyone outside the EXW guys, and asking if Hardy wrote up what he used as evidence on Word. Wasn't Morley with the WWE?

CSL

01-16-2011, 05:57 PM

Rumoured to be with WWE. According to a website. So probably not.

Shadrick

01-16-2011, 11:05 PM

And Val Venis will be remembered for what exactly?

For what? No clue. Porn Star gimmick during the Attitude Era? No idea at all. Matt may have an edge in 20 years, I'm not denying that, but its not of his doing. That's almost like saying David Flair will have the edge in 20 years.

Damian Rey

01-16-2011, 11:14 PM

For what? No clue. Porn Star gimmick during the Attitude Era? No idea at all. Matt may have an edge in 20 years, I'm not denying that, but its not of his doing. That's almost like saying David Flair will have the edge in 20 years.

Matt will be largely remembered for his run as a Hardy boy. While he has had solid runs, the Hardys is what will come to define his wrestling career when he decides to hang it up.

Val on the other hand, really doesn't have much of a legacy. He was given a pretty shit gimmick that had very limited long term potential, made it work, got a few title runs out of it, and eventually was used as enhancement talent.

While Matt will have the better in ring legacy, Val's career in the business as a whole has more potential, in my opinion, to actually impact what happens in the future. If he really is an agent, or does run some sort of indy promotion, the wealth of knowledge he posseses and the willingness to put people over and help further their careers is what could end up defining him.

Xero

01-17-2011, 02:39 PM

http://scriptdanger.com/

Mr. Nerfect

01-17-2011, 03:16 PM

Remember when Chris Benoit had this huge positive legacy laid out before him? I'm just saying keep an open mind about how guys are remembered -- positively or negatively.

erickman

01-17-2011, 03:44 PM

http://scriptdanger.com/

is he cm punk now guess he can join nexses now.

Mr. Nerfect

01-17-2011, 04:16 PM

He's already bald.

Kane Knight

01-18-2011, 06:38 AM

Yeah, Jeff Hardy's brother.

Which is still more memorable than Val Venis, most likely.

Xero

01-21-2011, 05:40 PM

Anybody Thrilla

01-21-2011, 11:09 PM

This is completely pathetic.

dronepool

01-22-2011, 03:55 PM

Yeah, what the fuck was that?

Fignuts

01-22-2011, 05:11 PM

lol wait matt hardy got choked out by eve torres? When did this happen?