View Full Version : Triple H Named The Most Overrated Wrestler Of All-time
UGO.com has posted a list counting down the top 25 most overrated wrestlers of all-time. The ranking is topped by Triple H, who was named Most Overrated in the Wrestling Observer Newsletter awards three years running (2002-2004), and again in 2009.
Regarding the self-proclaimed "King of Kings", UGO.com wrote: "For too long, Triple H has received a free pass from internet wrestling fans, but we say, "No more!" Sure, he used to be great, but that was before he destroyed his body and moved on to destroying the careers of younger wrestlers. Folks these days like to say that "The King of Kings" makes people into stars, but wrestlers tend to either suceed despite the terrible, emasculating beatings he gives them or just disappear back into the midcard. What's worse is that he does it all with the same four boring, mechanical moves - a fact which goes strangely unnoticed by the world's Cena-bashers, who tend to love "The Game." If Triple H was as great as people say he is, the past 13 years of constant pushes shouldn't have just turned him into another Rock or "Stone Cold," it should have gotten him elected King of the Universe.
"And The Chaperone looks atrocious."
The complete ranking is as follows:
25. Diesel
24. Arn Anderson
23. Alberto Del Rio
22. Jerry Lynn
21. Shelton Benjamin
20. Verne Gagne
19. Jeff Jarrett
18. Sabu
17. Finlay
16. Christopher Daniels
15. Mr. Anderson
14. William Regal
13. Indy Geeks (Mike Quackenbush pictured)
12. Randy Orton
11. Gorgeous George
10. Scott Hall
9. Dean Malenko
8. Owen Hart
7. Christian
6. Curt Hennig
5. Miss Elizabeth
4. Jerry "The King" Lawler
3. Giant Baba
2. Hulk Hogan
1. Triple H
HeartBreakMan2k
02-13-2011, 08:54 PM
This is worse than a PWI list...
Only ones I can't understand from any perspective are Hennig and Arn Anderson, to be honest.
Not that I agree with the rest of the list (I agree with some, others not), but I can understand it from a casual fan's perspective.
Nark Order
02-13-2011, 08:54 PM
Seems like they were definitely trying to stick it to internet fans here to be controversial or something.
List appears to be a random bunch of names thrown together with a hint of IWC-ness mixed in and cooked in attempted controversy. Bless.
JimmyMess
02-13-2011, 09:04 PM
Curt Henning? I've only ever heard great things about Henning... This is a really bad list.
Nah, Bret Hart defo the most overrated.
Fuck that list.
Nark Order
02-13-2011, 09:05 PM
William Regal should probably be in the top 5 of a 'Most Underrated Wrestler of All Time' list, to be honest. Some of this stuff is ridiculous.
And Christian has mainly only been extremely popular on the internet.
This list is confusing and pretty awful.
Droford
02-13-2011, 09:06 PM
Del Rio is on the list and Daniel Bryan isn't
hmm
I think we've already speculated enough on it.
ClockShot
02-13-2011, 09:10 PM
Better get out of here before James Steele sees this.
lol a one man mission to take down UGO.com
http://www.fansfc.com/UploadedImages/Players/Ugo%20Ehiogu_633589851066562500.jpg
Ugo.co.uk
Who the fuck is Giant Baba?
"For too long, Triple H has received a free pass from internet wrestling fans, but we say, "No more!"
Wat, I see HHH bashing all the time.
Damian Rey
02-13-2011, 09:14 PM
Yea, this list is a bit of BS.
By no means am I a mark for Triple H, but he has had some solid matches since his quad injuries, the most recent being a sleeper pick with Sheamus at Mania last year.
Not to mention, how Hennig, Anderson, and William Regal, who, as Narc stated, is likely one of the most underrated performers of all time, make the list is ridiculous.
Who the fuck is Giant Baba?
Huge star in Japan (well, was) Like Hogan popular from the 70's onwards. He was pretty shit tbf.
Razzamajazz
02-13-2011, 09:20 PM
jerry lynn? RABBLE! RABBLE RABBLE!
Lock Jaw
02-13-2011, 09:38 PM
I like how Alberto Del Rio can be around for less than a year and already become one of the most overrated wrestlers of all time.
SOCCER LEGS
02-13-2011, 09:39 PM
he's been around much longer than a year.
on another note, triple h does suck pretty hard.
Nicky Fives
02-13-2011, 09:54 PM
The list is bullshit [/thread]
dablackguy
02-13-2011, 09:56 PM
Waits for James Steele vehemently defending HHH....
But seriously, that list is garbage
Testicle
02-13-2011, 10:08 PM
The list is pretty bullshit, BUT...
As far as HHH goes, he may be the most over-rated. It took many years, many pushes, and many jobs from top guys to get him over. If it wasn't for Austin, Foley, The Rock, and The Undertaker busting their asses for this guy, HHH would not be over. It took a lot to get him over and the return on investment has been minimal IMO.
edit: I know its lame to say, but honestly would the guy be where he is if he wasn't banging the bosses daughter?
SlickyTrickyDamon
02-13-2011, 10:20 PM
He was a three time champion before he started dating Steph, so I'd say yes. Triple H was a well-established Hall of Fame bound wrestler before he married her.
Get your head out of your ass.
Considering he was over/was headlining before he went near Stephanie and the fact that that relationship could have been extremely detrimental to his career had anything gone wrong, I'd say in the exact same place minus potentially running the company one day. And out of those guys you named, Austin wanted nothing to do with him for quite a while, Rock and he were on the same level when they were feuding until 2000, by which point he was already established and I don't recall him and Taker going near each other until 2001, again by which point he was already established.
Emperor Smeat
02-13-2011, 10:23 PM
I could see it being true if this had come out around the early Brand Split Era when RAW revolved around him at the cost of other wrestlers and good feuds but he's been much better since the Spirit Squad feud and even helped a few wrestlers over the years (ex. Sheamus for recent, Batitsta for past).
Cena should have made the list if Hogan made it since Cena is basically this era's Hogan although without the bad backstage politicking Hogan was known for.
El Fangel
02-13-2011, 10:24 PM
Whoever put Daniels on that list is a fucking idiot.
Testicle
02-13-2011, 10:25 PM
Well, when he got his push, you smart ass, Austin was out with knee injuries, Undertaker was out with multiple injuries, Foley was retiring, and the WWE had no where else to go. BTW he was a 2-time champ before he started doing Steph.
Lara Emily
02-13-2011, 10:25 PM
What a stupid fucking list
Swiss Ultimate
02-13-2011, 10:27 PM
I'm here for James Steele if he needs me.
Damian Rey
02-13-2011, 10:29 PM
The list is pretty bullshit, BUT...
As far as HHH goes, he may be the most over-rated. It took many years, many pushes, and many jobs from top guys to get him over. If it wasn't for Austin, Foley, The Rock, and The Undertaker busting their asses for this guy, HHH would not be over.
I disagree quite a bit. He entered WWE as a snot nose blue blood, got pushed to the midcard, then got punished for the Kliq's curtain call for a while. Then they went back to pushing him.
After Shawn left, they turned him face, gave him the ball and he ran with it, and turned heel and proceeded to be built up as a main eventer. He won the title later that summer after beating Mankind on Raw.
Mind you, he was THE top heel in the company from his initial winning of the belt all the way through dropping the title to the Rock at 2000's Backlash event.
All that happened from late 1996. So in a span of about 3 and half years, Hunter's character developed form snob, to rebel, to rebel leader, to main event heel. I wouldn't call that many years and many pushes. His character more or less evolved. It;s not as if he had a sudden gimmick change.
Also, no shit it took top guys putting him over to get him to their level. That's how it works. HBK beat Bret, Austin beat HBK, Rock and Mankind beat each other, Hunter beat Mankind, so on and so forth.
I'm not trying to say he's not overrated, because, honestly, anyone with any type of following, whether it be from the IWC or young marks, is going to be overrated. Just how it works.
But to say that Triple H is the "most overrated " is a bit much. He was money till he got hurt.
Testicle
02-13-2011, 10:29 PM
Considering he was over/was headlining before he went near Stephanie and the fact that that relationship could have been extremely detrimental to his career had anything gone wrong, I'd say in the exact same place minus potentially running the company one day. And out of those guys you named, Austin wanted nothing to do with him for quite a while, Rock and he were on the same level when they were feuding until 2000, by which point he was already established and I don't recall him and Taker going near each other until 2001, again by which point he was already established.
HA, exactly, Austin didn't want to put him over at Summerslam '99 because he knew that Hunter was shit. As far as him and The Rock being on the same level, listen to the crowd reaction and then tell me that they are on the same level.
Testicle
02-13-2011, 10:31 PM
This whole thread proves that HHH is the most over-rated wrestler. The IWC loves him despite overwhelming evidence of the contrary.
edit: I am not arguing about the list, it is terrible.
Swiss Ultimate
02-13-2011, 10:32 PM
I feel that HHH was a better heel than Rock, because though the Rock was great, his gimmick was waaaay to fan-friendly. HHH was consistently hated while he was ending Foley's career.
Testicle
02-13-2011, 10:35 PM
HHH is a better heel than Rocky?????????
The fans chanted 'Die Rocky die' in 1997, no go. And the Rock didn't need a shit-ton of guys to put him over to get the heat.
SlickyTrickyDamon
02-13-2011, 10:36 PM
This whole thread proves that HHH is the most over-rated wrestler. The IWC loves him despite overwhelming evidence of the contrary.
edit: I am not arguing about the list, it is terrible.
The IWC is probably the only group that has a contingent that actually hates Triple H. Try again.
Testicle
02-13-2011, 10:39 PM
The IWC is probably the only group that has a contingent that actually hates Triple H. Try again.
Last time I checked TPWW was part of the IWC, so save your witty comeback for someone else.
Testicle
02-13-2011, 10:44 PM
I realize that I am fighting a losing battle here, its only a matter of time before we get some James Steele video tributes in here.
Fignuts
02-13-2011, 10:48 PM
Who the fuck is UGO?
HA, exactly, Austin didn't want to put him over at Summerslam '99 because he knew that Hunter was shit. As far as him and The Rock being on the same level, listen to the crowd reaction and then tell me that they are on the same level.
Yeah, Austin not wanting to put people over has always been the indicator of somebody being shit hasn't it. That Brock Lesnar guy, what a useless cunt he was. Jeff Jarrett's obviously done nothing worthwhile either. Scott Hall? Pfffft, never been worth anything. Fucking hell.
And okay:
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Triple H got over the same way anybody else got over aka a push.
As for your other posts, how exactly does this thread prove Triple H is over-rated? Because you've repeated yourself a few times? And please, the 'IWC' far from loves Triple H. You're allowed to dislike Triple H, it's an opinion. Just don't try and make it come off as a fact by supporting it with with a bunch of nonsense.
XCaliber
02-13-2011, 11:06 PM
This is a terrible list Cena isn't even on it. :wtf:
Damian Rey
02-13-2011, 11:41 PM
HHH is a better heel than Rocky?????????
The fans chanted 'Die Rocky die' in 1997, no go. And the Rock didn't need a shit-ton of guys to put him over to get the heat.
The fans chanted "Die, Rocky, Die" while he was still the bland, happy-go-lucky Rocky Maivia. So that point doesn't even qualify for your argument.
Not to mention, Triple H got over on mic work alone once DX turned face as a unit.
djoutcry
02-14-2011, 12:04 AM
This is a terrible list Cena isn't even on it. :wtf:
This.
Damian Rey
02-14-2011, 12:13 AM
Considering how limted he is in terms of the type of matches he is allowed to have, wouldn't Cena be more qualified as underrated? I mean, yea, his matches suck, and they're formulaic. But that's no fault of his own nor the fault of sub par ability.
Testicle
02-14-2011, 12:40 AM
Yeah, Austin not wanting to put people over has always been the indicator of somebody being shit hasn't it. That Brock Lesnar guy, what a useless cunt he was. Jeff Jarrett's obviously done nothing worthwhile either. Scott Hall? Pfffft, never been worth anything. Fucking hell.
And okay:
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Triple H got over the same way anybody else got over aka a push.
As for your other posts, how exactly does this thread prove Triple H is over-rated? Because you've repeated yourself a few times? And please, the 'IWC' far from loves Triple H. You're allowed to dislike Triple H, it's an opinion. Just don't try and make it come off as a fact by supporting it with with a bunch of nonsense.
Hey guy, don't try to compare The Rock and Hunter its not going to work. Also, IMO, Hunter's push was not like most others as it took a lot more to get him over that it did others in that era.
I like how your argument is so weak that you have to attack mine to get it through, good work. Actually your argument alone proves the blatant, blind over-rating of HHH.
Testicle
02-14-2011, 12:44 AM
'Lets single out one single reaction to prove my point even though even though everyone knows the Rock is ten times more over'. Good job. Am I not allowed to say he is over-rated? You getting upset over this proves that I am right does it not?
Nark Order
02-14-2011, 12:50 AM
Testicle, you're not completely wrong but you're acting like a fucking spastic.
Triple H is probably the lesser of the most important main eventers in history and he doesn't really hold a candle to guys like Rock and Austin IMO but that doesn't mean that that he is horrible or anything. He is a solid ring worker, mic worker, and ring psychologist. He had help from alot of his friends and his wife later on, but he's not the only guy ever to have friends or connections. If he was absolutely fucking awful or something they would've tossed him out with the laundry years ago.
Overrated? I'd say probably yeah because they've really been laying it on thick in the past couple of years but alot of it has to do with the fact that he's one of only a few main guys from the attitude era that's still around. While I think he's overrated in that respect, he is in no way bad or undeserving of his current spot on the card.
Supreme Olajuwon
02-14-2011, 01:04 AM
If you're trying to put him on HBK or Austin's level then yeah Triple H is overrated, but I don't know how many people are doing that.
Supreme Olajuwon
02-14-2011, 01:05 AM
Also, since we know UGO is just trying to stir up a buzz with this list, I'm surprised they didn't just say fuck it and put Eddie Guerrero on it.
Supreme Olajuwon
02-14-2011, 01:06 AM
Although that would make too much sense since Eddie was extremely overrated...
Nark Order
02-14-2011, 01:07 AM
Although that would make too much sense since Eddie was extremely overrated...
How so, sir?
Hey guy, don't try to compare The Rock and Hunter its not going to work. Also, IMO, Hunter's push was not like most others as it took a lot more to get him over that it did others in that era.
I like how your argument is so weak that you have to attack mine to get it through, good work. Actually your argument alone proves the blatant, blind over-rating of HHH.
Are you completely retarded? Did you even read my first post? I stated that Rock and Triple H were on the same level when they were feuding before 2000, which was mid to late 1998. Before Rock took off and became one of the most over performers in the history of pro wrestling. When Triple H was at the height of his babyface mid-card run and was over big time. Did you want me to post every single Rock and Triple H appearance from that time period so they could be analysed? At least try and use your brain.
And attack? I gave you reasons as to why what you said was bullshit. If that's what you want to call an attack/weak argument then sure, whatever makes you feel secure buddy.
'Lets single out one single reaction to prove my point even though even though everyone knows the Rock is ten times more over'. Good job. Am I not allowed to say he is over-rated? You getting upset over this proves that I am right does it not?
Pretty sure I said you're allowed to say whatever about the guy. It's a few posts up there, in white text ^ So calm down sweetheart, as Narc said you are acting like a fucking spastic. It's like clicking on the Wrestling Forum from the main page automatically makes some people susceptible to massive loss of brain function. And please, feel free to point out where I got upset. That just seems to be a stupid person defence mechanism when they say something really fucking dumb and it get's challenged. It's quite common on here. You aren't alone.
Supreme Olajuwon
02-14-2011, 01:09 AM
He couldn't wrestle. Five somersaults before an arm drag don't make you a good wrestler. Ooh look at me I touch my elbows to my knees in mid air! That makes my splash more devastating.
Ugh.
Nark Order
02-14-2011, 01:10 AM
What?
Nark Order
02-14-2011, 01:12 AM
I think I'm being bamboozled.
Supreme Olajuwon
02-14-2011, 01:14 AM
How was he any good? All he did was steal material from Speedy Gonzalez and act like a Mexican stereotype.
I guess if you like that thing it's cool, but I would just expect more, "holmes."
Nark Order
02-14-2011, 01:17 AM
Oh. I see what we're doing now.
Bret Hart wasn't any good either UNLESS YOU LIKE FAGGOTS IN PINK.
Rammsteinmad
02-14-2011, 01:45 AM
I don't care about Triple H or that list. But that Cena comment is spot on.
Except it's not four moves, it's five. :y:
Tom Guycott
02-14-2011, 01:50 AM
The ranking is topped by Triple H, who was named Most Overrated in the Wrestling Observer Newsletter awards three years running (2002-2004), and again in 2009....
..."And The Chaperone looks atrocious."
The complete ranking is as follows:
25. Diesel
24. Arn Anderson*
23. Alberto Del Rio
22. Jerry Lynn
21. Shelton Benjamin
20. Verne Gagne
19. Jeff Jarrett
18. Sabu
17. Finlay
16. Christopher Daniels
15. Mr. Anderson
14. William Regal
13. Indy Geeks (Mike Quackenbush pictured)
12. Randy Orton
11. Gorgeous George
10. Scott Hall
9. Dean Malenko
8. Owen Hart
7. Christian
6. Curt Hennig
5. Miss Elizabeth (??? ... last I checked, not a wrestler)
4. Jerry "The King" Lawler
3. Giant Baba
2. Hulk Hogan
1. Triple H
Seems like they were definitely trying to stick it to internet fans here to be controversial or something.
List appears to be a random bunch of names thrown together with a hint of IWC-ness mixed in and cooked in attempted controversy. Bless.
Names in RED denote the proving of your points.
*To be fair, Double A even said as much about himself during his retirement speech whilst passing "his spot" on the Horsemen to Hennig.
Also, since we know UGO is just trying to stir up a buzz with this list, I'm surprised they didn't just say fuck it and put Eddie Guerrero on it.
To be fair, and I'm fully preparing for heaps of hate, I believe Owen is kinda overrated as well. It's not so much that he didn't deserve accolades, wasn't good on the mic, or wasn't any good ringwise, because that just isn't true. He was great, but it's more to the fact that I, like a lot of others, didn't really give a flying fuck about him until he died.
It's kind of those "hindsight being 20/20" things. Didn't realize how great he was while he was alive, and I have a sneaking suspicion that in spite of the whole "Owen was supposed to be The Game" speak, he was likely going to be doomed to midcard hell. After he died, it was all "he should've been world champion", but while he was alive, it was "why is he getting a push?"
If Eddie weren't a multi-time champion before he died, I'm sure he would have been on the list too, and for the same reason.
Seth82
02-14-2011, 02:01 AM
That list is complete bullshit
Gorgeous George didn't have to be a great wrestler because his gimmick made him a huge star and is one of the reasons people still remember him
Lawler was awesome in the old Memphis territory in the 70's and 80's
You cannot judge him unless you've seen his work
Giant Baba was no Ricky Steamboat but he was a huge star in Japan in the 70's and 80's and was really over
I agree Sabu is def. overrated
James Steele
02-14-2011, 02:11 AM
http://www.gifsoup.com/view/85054/angry-o.gif
James Steele
02-14-2011, 02:18 AM
http://www.gifsoup.com/view1/1614061/triple-h-minitron-o.gif
James Steele
02-14-2011, 02:28 AM
http://i423.photobucket.com/albums/pp317/TheJ0ker08/Triple%20H%20Gifs/Triple_H_67_.gif
James Steele
02-14-2011, 02:28 AM
http://www.bestcomments.net/cat/wrestling/triple-h.gif
whiteyford
02-14-2011, 02:29 AM
That list is complete bullshit
Gorgeous George didn't have to be a great wrestler because his gimmick made him a huge star and is one of the reasons people still remember him
Seriously, how the fuck is he on this list? :nono:
James Steele
02-14-2011, 02:30 AM
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http://www.bestcomments.net/cat/wrestling/triple-h.gif
So Triple H starred in Twilight?
Trips has tremendous hair. At least for most of his career.
Shadrick
02-14-2011, 05:32 AM
I expected more from you Steele, honestly.
RiX1024
02-14-2011, 05:38 AM
In the words of Nazo.......This is bullshit.
RaginRonic
02-14-2011, 05:47 AM
http://www.deviantart.com/download/189359670/the_undertaker_wallpaper_by_ucfranck-d34qmuu.jpg
Ha ha ha...Jimmy really is a TripsTarded weirdo! XD
Fortunately, I can bring balance to The Force, Padawan Steele...anything with UnderTaker in it is fit for all seasons, while Darth Helmsley can only bring needless, soul-damaging chaos.
1 Taker pic > all TripH pics combined...and an army of DeadMen = a crushed Jimmy Copper, with you crying in your bunk after your dog raped you of your dreams. >8-)
With no amount of your sister's makeup being enough to wash away your tears. XD
And my heart just got a bit warmer today, seeing 3H top a list I always knew was Word of God. =)
seapig4
02-14-2011, 06:33 AM
That list is bullshit
http://www.deviantart.com/download/189359670/the_undertaker_wallpaper_by_ucfranck-d34qmuu.jpg
Ha ha ha...Jimmy really is a TripsTarded weirdo! XD
Fortunately, I can bring balance to The Force, Padawan Steele...anything with UnderTaker in it is fit for all seasons, while Darth Helmsley can only bring needless, soul-damaging chaos.
1 Taker pic > all TripH pics combined...and an army of DeadMen = a crushed Jimmy Copper, with you crying in your bunk after your dog raped you of your dreams. >8-)
With no amount of your sister's makeup being enough to wash away your tears. XD
And my heart just got a bit warmer today, seeing 3H top a list I always knew was Word of God. =)
This is a one, fucked up post.
Brigstocke
02-14-2011, 07:29 AM
The lesson to be learned from this list is that ooTin clearly works at UGO.com
1004 Holds
02-14-2011, 07:32 AM
that list is unbelievable, they say Dean Malenko is overrated, he was never really praised or in the spotlight whatsoever.
Honestly I love the Rock & Stone Cold but they should have been right up there with HHH and Hogan, and wheres Cena on that list?
what a joke lol
Brigstocke
02-14-2011, 07:36 AM
http://www.bestcomments.net/cat/wrestling/triple-h.gif
Hunter is in the new Twilight movie?
Brigstocke
02-14-2011, 07:37 AM
So Triple H starred in Twilight?
Oh for fucks sake you Polack swine.
Brigstocke
02-14-2011, 07:49 AM
I have re-written the list so it looks like it came from this reality rather than an alternate reality where the original author lives.
25. Jeff Jarrett
24. Val Venis
23. Mark Henry
22. Monty Brown
21. Jeff Hardy
20. Matt Hardy
19. D'lo Brown
18. Booker T
17. Goldberg
16. Scott Hall
15. Tommy Dreamer. (Take that ECW Marks)
14. Batista
13. Ultimate Warrior
12. Buff Bagwell
11. Luger
10. Road Dogg
9. Boss Man
8. Sid
7. Mountie
6. D'Von Dudley
5. Scott Steiner
4. Big Show
3. Kevin Nash
2. Hulk Hogan
1. John Cena
Eh, that Hulk Hogan hate.
Dont know how exactly is he overrated. The guy basically put wrestling on the map.
Troelar
02-14-2011, 07:57 AM
I would like to know what they mean by overrated (but I'm too lazy to check their website for any kind of definition)
As I see it there are several options for the meaning of overrated:
1: They got over even though their character and ability was stupid (according to UGO opinion). This definition of overrated is stupid. Hogan is not the greatest wrestler ever, but he managed to get over to the point of insanity, with a pretty stupid hulking up gimmick. Saying Hogan is overrated because his ability is lacking and his character was stupid doesn't add up, if by overrated you mean he got over on stupid shit. This however is prolly not how they mean it.
2: Someone is hailed as being great with the mic, having great wrestling ability and/or being over with the crowd to a degree that does not reflect reality. This is more likely the definition to go with (if you're actually making a proper list)- but it presents problems. Hogan can be overrated if everyone says "Wow Hogan sure was the greatest wrestler of all time" - but not if you say "Wow Hogan sure was one of the most over wrestlers of all time (if not the most over wrestler)". While someone like - talking purely about his WWE career so far and only as an example (so stick the red rep up your behind) - Daniel Bryan could be said to be overrated if the wording was "Wow he sure is one of the most over wrestlers in the WWE today", but not if it's "Wow he sure is one of the best technical wrestlers in the WWE today".
The problem is - how do you compare it? How do you compare someone who is overrated as a wrestler Vs someone who is overrated as a great speaker Vs someone who is overrated with regards to being over!
And there is of course option #3 which is prolly what UGO used: Who can we name who it isn't universally agreed is awesome, that'll provoke some people and get us a rise and a reaction?
With regards to the list: I think my above look at what overrated can mean, should make it clear that I find the list to be bullshit, because I haven't any idea what it's talking about!
Brigstocke
02-14-2011, 08:16 AM
Eh, that Hulk Hogan hate.
Dont know how exactly is he overrated. The guy basically put wrestling on the map.
Because of his gimmick, and the never ending stream of amazing heel characters who got jobbed out to him, not his actual ability.
Because of his gimmick, and the never ending stream of amazing heel characters who got jobbed out to him, not his actual ability.
That just makes him an asshole, not overrated.
JimmyMess
02-14-2011, 08:23 AM
So because they have Nash as Diesel... are they saying that when he's Diesel he's overrated but as Kevin Nash he's not?
Brigstocke
02-14-2011, 08:26 AM
That just makes him an asshole, not overrated.
Show me a good 1 vs 1 match that he was involved in?
http://seemslegit.com/_images/fdbae3a08f704e4ea45629268bad8402/615%20-%20food%20pastamania.jpg
You can't fuck with that.
Brigstocke
02-14-2011, 08:33 AM
Also, Hogans daughter is overrated in her attractiveness, she has a square jaw and a ridiculous chin.
Brigstocke
02-14-2011, 08:52 AM
Her brother is a complete wanker aswell.
Hulksperm is just no good.
Brigstocke
02-14-2011, 09:10 AM
Aside from Hulks inclusion do you agree with the new list?
Yeah, I'd just scratch Scott Hall.
Brigstocke
02-14-2011, 09:16 AM
He only ever had one good match, and Michaels literally dragged him through that ass first.
Brigstocke
02-14-2011, 09:19 AM
AAA - brothers for lyfe.
Brigstocke
02-14-2011, 09:22 AM
Typo :cool:
Amazing Alcoholics Anonymous.
Now that sounds like a superhero group.
Swiss Ultimate
02-14-2011, 09:46 AM
HHH is a better heel than Rocky?????????
The fans chanted 'Die Rocky die' in 1997, no go. And the Rock didn't need a shit-ton of guys to put him over to get the heat.
Rock was a baby-face when that happened.
I really don't blame the fans for wanting to kill that character. He was awful as Rocky Maivia and looked like a fuckin' clown.
http://gerweck.net/rocky.jpg
Supreme Olajuwon
02-14-2011, 10:09 AM
Oh. I see what we're doing now.
Bret Hart wasn't any good either UNLESS YOU LIKE FAGGOTS IN PINK.
That's exactly it. And that's usually how these things are written. You pick a guy for whatever reason, you list out what he did in his career, and then you say that those particular things are bad. Therefore, that wrestler is overrated.
And then if someone points out that other people have done the same thing, you say that it's different. Like for your example. Bret Hart wore pink therefore he sucked. "He didn't Randy Savage and Sting wear pink at times?" Yeah but they pulled it off, so it's different.
Oh the games we play.
Nark Order
02-14-2011, 10:36 AM
I can see your point to an extent, yeah. The IWC picks and chooses who they want to like and why they want to like them and it's usually based on a bunch of fickle shit. 5-6 years ago Matt Hardy was an internet darling and he was going to take over the world with his Mattitude... Now it's FAT HARDY LOL!!
Although, I think there is something to be said about Triple H not really adding up to the great main eventers of other eras. And it is only natural to compare them to each other. Once again, he's a great wrestler and a great performers but on a top 20 of all time list, I'd probably put him around 15.
ooTin
02-14-2011, 10:48 AM
I want to know Steels opinion on this.
And Hogan should defiantly be the most over rated anything of all time.
ooTin
02-14-2011, 11:03 AM
(I am to lazy to read everything on here)
Based on this list, they were rating in ring ability.
Wrestling is not all about in ring ability
Mic skills are a huge part of who you are perceived as a performer in my opinion.
Many of these guys are AMAZING on the mic
Diesel
Arn Anderson
Alberto Del Rio
Mr. Anderson
Regal
Orton
Hall
Hart
Christian
Henning
Lawler ( although he has gotten stale in my opinion)
Hogan
HHH
all of these men are very good mike workers and the majority are skilled wrestlers. This list must have been posted to get a rise out of people, you know, shock valus.
Supreme Olajuwon
02-14-2011, 11:05 AM
I can see your point to an extent, yeah. The IWC picks and chooses who they want to like and why they want to like them and it's usually based on a bunch of fickle shit. 5-6 years ago Matt Hardy was an internet darling and he was going to take over the world with his Mattitude... Now it's FAT HARDY LOL!!
Although, I think there is something to be said about Triple H not really adding up to the great main eventers of other eras. And it is only natural to compare them to each other. Once again, he's a great wrestler and a great performers but on a top 20 of all time list, I'd probably put him around 15.
But how many people are even making that argument? There's a few, sure, but for the most part everyone says he's good (in fact this UGO article says he used to be "great," and I dunno how you can say someone who was at one point great can be the most overrated) but not as good as Austin or Michaels or Rock or even Jericho, Guerrero, or Angle. You can make a case that he's overrated, but the most overrated ever? Come on now.
Supreme Olajuwon
02-14-2011, 11:08 AM
I mean just look how the point in here was already made that Austin refused to job to Triple H because Austin knew he sucked. Yet when Triple H refused to job someone it was because he was holding on to his spot.
Selective application.
Nark Order
02-14-2011, 11:17 AM
As far as ranking goes, yeah. #1 on the list is probably a little high when you consider how much he loves wrestling, how much he's done for it, how much he's put into it, and how much he's worked to improve it. For the most part, I think people get really bitter about the Stephanie thing. Did he do it to get ahead? Who knows but it's kind of irrelevant to argue (as stated) because he was in a pretty prominent position before he got together with her. Also, alot of disgruntled ex-WWE guys have told tons of stories about his power trips and the like so that's probably another reason.
Personally I think his style of wrestling is a bit boring and many of his promos sound the same. I'm willing to admit his accomplishment but overall I just don't really like him. I'm willing to bet that's the case with alot of the people trying to condemn him, to be honest.
Swiss Ultimate
02-14-2011, 11:18 AM
I feel that Testicle's slip-up is going to go unnoticed. How does he not know basic wrestling history like the fact that Rock was booed as a face?
SlickyTrickyDamon
02-14-2011, 11:57 AM
This is a one, fucked up post.
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Sycophant
02-14-2011, 02:20 PM
I think there needs to be more specification on what is being analyzed as "overrated." Are we talking about wrestling ability alone or in contrast to overall popularity? By some arguments, people are just going by who was pushed and shouldn't have been or who was popular, but shouldn't have been.
Brigstocke
02-14-2011, 02:44 PM
Just ignore the ACTUAL list I made then you pack of bastards.
Just ignore the ACTUAL list I made then you pack of bastards.
No one cares.
James Steele
02-14-2011, 05:23 PM
Damn it, my attempts to ruin this walking pile of ostrich cum called a thread were unsuccessful. Might just have to go on a normal tirade...
The Naitch
02-14-2011, 05:27 PM
Also, Hogans daughter is overrated in her attractiveness, she has a square jaw and a ridiculous chin.
and she looks like a man
I'm not going to really comment on this as the idea of an "Most Overrated Wrestler of All-Time" list is nothing more than a person's opinions with numbers next to them. One person's overrated wrestler is another person's wrestler of the year. The list doesn't mean anything except that the person who created it apparently doesn't like Triple H.
I will say this though: Triple H and Stephanie were seeing each other BEFORE his first World Title win. Anyone who judges the length of their relationship based on the "McMahon-Helmsley Regime" storyline is kidding themselves. It's pretty well known that they were seeing each other all the way back to the late months of DX, right around WrestleMania 15 time when Hunter turned heel and joined the Corporation, which was well before he won his first WWF Title.
James Steele
02-15-2011, 12:19 AM
I'm not going to really comment on this as the idea of an "Most Overrated Wrestler of All-Time" list is nothing more than a person's opinions with numbers next to them. One person's overrated wrestler is another person's wrestler of the year. The list doesn't mean anything except that the person who created it apparently doesn't like Triple H.
I will say this though: Triple H and Stephanie were seeing each other BEFORE his first World Title win. Anyone who judges the length of their relationship based on the "McMahon-Helmsley Regime" storyline is kidding themselves. It's pretty well known that they were seeing each other all the way back to the late months of DX, right around WrestleMania 15 time when Hunter turned heel and joined the Corporation, which was well before he won his first WWF Title.
Except...not really. Please show me actual proof of this. I have never heard anything occurring pre-2001.
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They both said they never really met until the angle started in late 99.
Tom Guycott
02-15-2011, 03:41 AM
I have re-written the list so it looks like it came from this reality rather than an alternate reality where the original author lives.
25. Jeff Jarrett
24. Val Venis
23. Mark Henry
22. Monty Brown
21. Jeff Hardy
20. Matt Hardy
19. D'lo Brown
18. Booker T
17. Goldberg
16. Scott Hall
15. Tommy Dreamer. (Take that ECW Marks)
14. Batista
13. Ultimate Warrior
12. Buff Bagwell
11. Luger
10. Road Dogg
9. Boss Man
8. Sid
7. Mountie
6. D'Von Dudley
5. Scott Steiner
4. Big Show
3. Kevin Nash
2. Hulk Hogan
1. John Cena
According to what I gather from this site, Brig, this list is bullshit as well, only because Jarrett is all the way down to the end and Jeff Hardy only appears on it once.
Tom Guycott
02-15-2011, 03:50 AM
I really don't blame the fans for wanting to kill that character. He was awful as Rocky Maivia and looked like a fuckin' clown.
http://gerweck.net/rocky.jpg is to http://thehouseofjukeblog.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/22-the-rock-wwf-champ.jpg
what
http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/pictures/t/tazz/17.jpg is to http://m2j.us/images/wrestlers/taz.jpg
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