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Theo Dious
02-20-2011, 09:57 PM
This full-on heel Cole shit is disgusting to listen to.

rated rjo
02-20-2011, 09:57 PM
At this point, I would seriously be surprised if King doesn't walk out of EC as champion. I mean, the guy's mother just died! How can the WWE NOT throw him a bone?!?!

Although, if he does win, I'm fully expecting something like a 24 hr title reign.

Theo Dious
02-20-2011, 09:58 PM
Big Show v Bossman, every Yokozuna match, etc.

Show vs Bossman was a ridiculous spectacle, but Yoko had some skills.

Providence Peep
02-20-2011, 09:58 PM
Can someone put the Lawler/Miz match on Youtube after the ppv?

RawRocks
02-20-2011, 09:58 PM
bye bye Alex

Captain Redneck
02-20-2011, 09:59 PM
If the strap comes down I'm starting to mark out

Londoner
02-20-2011, 09:59 PM
Oh yeh, show v bossman is definately up there.

RawRocks
02-20-2011, 09:59 PM
the WWE needs to end the Cole hard on

rated rjo
02-20-2011, 10:00 PM
Come to think about it, I'd just be shocked if they let King do his finisher :wtf::shifty:

Londoner
02-20-2011, 10:00 PM
know your role, cole.

Captain Redneck
02-20-2011, 10:00 PM
That was awesome...lol

RawRocks
02-20-2011, 10:00 PM
fucking beautiful

FearedSanctity
02-20-2011, 10:00 PM
Cole just annoying as fuck right now

jasean21
02-20-2011, 10:01 PM
YO I WANNA WATCH THIS SOMEBODY KNOWS!!!! HELP ME OUT,,,, DONT BE BALLSACKS!!!

Captain Redneck
02-20-2011, 10:02 PM
strap comes down...1,2, damn

Theo Dious
02-20-2011, 10:02 PM
Did Booker just say "all hail king Lawler?"

Londoner
02-20-2011, 10:03 PM
miz



WINNNNNNNNNNNNNNSSSSSSSSSSSSS

Captain Redneck
02-20-2011, 10:03 PM
Fuck

rated rjo
02-20-2011, 10:03 PM
dammit

ImpactPlayer365
02-20-2011, 10:03 PM
Dr. Dre quote from Booker. niiiice

Fignuts
02-20-2011, 10:04 PM
huh

Dragoneyes
02-20-2011, 10:04 PM
Cole needs to go away.....permenently

RawRocks
02-20-2011, 10:05 PM
OH SHUT THE FUCK UP COLE

Graveler
02-20-2011, 10:05 PM
I have to say that I'm surprised that he won that way.

Londoner
02-20-2011, 10:06 PM
KING V COLE AT WM, just set it up right there.

JimmyMess
02-20-2011, 10:07 PM
Cole isn't heelish.

He's faggish.

Londoner
02-20-2011, 10:08 PM
cena + fruity pebbles, oh man

ImpactPlayer365
02-20-2011, 10:08 PM
So hopefully the RAW Elimination Chamber match isnt another episode of "The Adventures of SuperCena"

Theo Dious
02-20-2011, 10:08 PM
Please tell me I did not just see that.

Corndad
02-20-2011, 10:08 PM
Fruity Pebbles lol

CSL
02-20-2011, 10:08 PM
LOL beautiful

Fignuts
02-20-2011, 10:08 PM
lol cena

Theo Dious
02-20-2011, 10:08 PM
It's been a good run, ladies and gentlemen, but I'm going to go nip off and shoot myself.

RawRocks
02-20-2011, 10:09 PM
Cena eating Fruitty Peebles.. thats funny

rated rjo
02-20-2011, 10:09 PM
Okay, just seeing Cena eat a bowl of fruity pebbles was pretty funny.

JimmyMess
02-20-2011, 10:10 PM
That was great!!! Fruity Pebbles!

jasean21
02-20-2011, 10:10 PM
FUKING PUSSY ASS MIZ SHIT!!!! Well we all knew KIng wasnt gonna win, but hey

rated rjo
02-20-2011, 10:12 PM
Can't wait to see what crazy shit Morrison pulls out tonight.

Londoner
02-20-2011, 10:14 PM
fuck off r -truth.

Fignuts
02-20-2011, 10:14 PM
Honestly have no idea how they are going to top that first chamber match.

Londoner
02-20-2011, 10:15 PM
Honestly have no idea how they are going to top that first chamber match.

BLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD:shifty:

Splaya
02-20-2011, 10:16 PM
Everyone has cashed in a money in the bank contract on a champion who is vulnerable.


Good thing RVD cashed it in on Cena at ONS and Cena was vulnerable :roll:

Swiss Ultimate
02-20-2011, 10:17 PM
Did Miz or King bleed?

Captain Redneck
02-20-2011, 10:18 PM
Anyone besides R-Truth or Cena wins this match and I won't complain

rated rjo
02-20-2011, 10:19 PM
:lol: at Punk banging on the glass during Cena's entrance.

Providence Peep
02-20-2011, 10:19 PM
Did Christian show up and lose in the Smackdown Elimination Chamber?

bigslimjj
02-20-2011, 10:20 PM
If JoMo wins I'm marking out. WM 27 -The Dirt Sheet Explodes!

bigslimjj
02-20-2011, 10:21 PM
Did Christian show up and lose in the Smackdown Elimination Chamber?Na after egde won it del riiiiiiiooooooo came out and attacked.Christian came in for the save and beat the brakes off of Del Riiiiiiooooooo ending with the unprettier,or whatever he calls it now.

Providence Peep
02-20-2011, 10:21 PM
If JoMo wins I'm marking out. WM 27 -The Dirt Sheet Explodes!

With The Miz just winning and retaining the belt, it would only make sense for JoMo to win.

Captain Redneck
02-20-2011, 10:21 PM
Did Christian show up and lose in the Smackdown Elimination Chamber?


No he made the save for Edge after Del Rio attacked Edge after the match.

jasean21
02-20-2011, 10:22 PM
I know we all wrestling fans and this is a thread for the chamber dont eat me alive, but they are really playing hard in the all star game... really playing hard d and kobe is going ham

Providence Peep
02-20-2011, 10:22 PM
Na after egde won it del riiiiiiiooooooo came out and attacked.Christian came in for the save and beat the brakes off of Del Riiiiiiooooooo.

OK, thanks! :y:

Evil Vito
02-20-2011, 10:23 PM
<font color=goldenrod>Don't see both chambers ending with a guy who started the match winning (Edge started his match).

Orton has a slight chance if they want to do Morrison vs. Punk at Mania instead of Orton vs. Punk...but Cena winning is by far the most likely scenario.</font>

Emperor Smeat
02-20-2011, 10:23 PM
:lol: random dual "Cena Sucks" and "Lets Go Cena" during the match even though Cena is in a glass case and hasn't done anything.

rated rjo
02-20-2011, 10:23 PM
Loved that spot. No wrestler these days makes me mark out like Morrison. Punk's probably a close 2nd.

rated rjo
02-20-2011, 10:25 PM
Punk looks like an angry gorilla in that cage.

CSL
02-20-2011, 10:26 PM
fuckkkkkk taking that DDT on the floor of that cage

Providence Peep
02-20-2011, 10:28 PM
Wasn't Edge already the number 1 contender before winning the EC match?

ImpactPlayer365
02-20-2011, 10:29 PM
ahhh...boooo

Captain Redneck
02-20-2011, 10:29 PM
Damn...Punk got screwed

Londoner
02-20-2011, 10:30 PM
well that was fucking LAME


email from gm!!!!

rated rjo
02-20-2011, 10:30 PM
Punk's first to go. Totally didn't see that coming!

jasean21
02-20-2011, 10:30 PM
Did CM Punk just job this match?

Corndad
02-20-2011, 10:30 PM
Really? Punk first out?? My Tipsters is crapped lol

Captain Redneck
02-20-2011, 10:30 PM
Punk about to be reinstated

Fignuts
02-20-2011, 10:30 PM
gay

rated rjo
02-20-2011, 10:30 PM
damn gm.

Londoner
02-20-2011, 10:30 PM
thank you lock jaw!!!!!!!!god of tpww!!!

jasean21
02-20-2011, 10:30 PM
LOL nevermind saved by the bell

Emperor Smeat
02-20-2011, 10:31 PM
Was hoping more of everyone beats up Punk as revenge then eliminated instead of the quick Orton RKO and pin but the GM fixed that.

:lol: Punk rushing back to the pod for it to be locked while smiling.

Dorkchop
02-20-2011, 10:31 PM
Interrupting the main event of a ppv? That's Xpac heat right there

CSL
02-20-2011, 10:31 PM
lol nice little swerve

jasean21
02-20-2011, 10:31 PM
WOW FUCKERY!!!!!

Splaya
02-20-2011, 10:31 PM
What the hell

Evil Vito
02-20-2011, 10:31 PM
<font color=goldenrod>ROFL</font>

GoneFishing
02-20-2011, 10:32 PM
Elimination Chamber just got Punked.

PorkSoda
02-20-2011, 10:34 PM
Somebody tell me whats going on

rated rjo
02-20-2011, 10:34 PM
Anyone know Cena's record against Sheamus? Isn't he like Celtic Kryptonite for Cena or something?

Captain Redneck
02-20-2011, 10:34 PM
Damn...Shemas jumps Cena before he can get out of pod....this is setting up the "Super Cena" comeback

treyace
02-20-2011, 10:34 PM
why is rtruth still there

jasean21
02-20-2011, 10:35 PM
AHHH, What R truth wins~~!!!!! lol JK@!!!!

Fignuts
02-20-2011, 10:36 PM
lol shaemus springboard

CSL
02-20-2011, 10:36 PM
Orton's knee drop is a work of art

bigslimjj
02-20-2011, 10:37 PM
FRUITY PEBBLES!!! ROFL:rofl::rofl::rofl: and now its time to get crunk. What's up?

Captain Redneck
02-20-2011, 10:38 PM
Goodbye Truth...

rated rjo
02-20-2011, 10:38 PM
As far as I'm concerned, they can keep Punk in the pod. His expressions throughout this whole match have been priceless!

CSL
02-20-2011, 10:38 PM
lol that's legit pain from Sheamus

bigslimjj
02-20-2011, 10:38 PM
And the black fella is eliminated first.

Fignuts
02-20-2011, 10:38 PM
lol

Corndad
02-20-2011, 10:38 PM
When are they gonna decide if the GM is a face or a heel lol

jasean21
02-20-2011, 10:39 PM
Damn r-truth 4 mins is all you get?

Evil Vito
02-20-2011, 10:40 PM
<font color=goldenrod>So guys, how about that LEXAN POD?</font>

Captain Redneck
02-20-2011, 10:40 PM
Sheamus has really taking some vicious bumps in this match

bigslimjj
02-20-2011, 10:41 PM
<font color=goldenrod>So guys, how about that LEXAN POD?</font>I got one of those for fifty bucks in Thailand one time.

Captain Redneck
02-20-2011, 10:42 PM
Punk gts to Orton...goodbye viper

Corndad
02-20-2011, 10:42 PM
Punk lol

rated rjo
02-20-2011, 10:42 PM
YESS!!! PUNK ELIMINATES ORTON!!!

treyace
02-20-2011, 10:42 PM
punk punk punk
what are we gonna do with you

Providence Peep
02-20-2011, 10:42 PM
Can someone please refresh my memory? There was a WM Match scheduled between Edge and Del Rio for the Championship. But then, Edge was put in a Championship match at EC. WHY? How did that happen?

Jura
02-20-2011, 10:42 PM
BOOO

Londoner
02-20-2011, 10:43 PM
ortons GONE!|

means cena's definately winning.

GoneFishing
02-20-2011, 10:43 PM
Holy shit, Punking things up.

Captain Redneck
02-20-2011, 10:44 PM
this is gonna be great

jasean21
02-20-2011, 10:44 PM
uhh ohh stream stopped no!!!!

Captain Redneck
02-20-2011, 10:45 PM
Morrisson is crazy

CSL
02-20-2011, 10:45 PM
Can someone please refresh my memory? There was a WM Match scheduled between Edge and Del Rio for the Championship. But then, Edge was put in a Championship match at EC. WHY? How did that happen?

It was just said that Del Rio was going to Mania after the WHC, not who he'd face

Captain Redneck
02-20-2011, 10:46 PM
Shaemus is eliminated

rated rjo
02-20-2011, 10:46 PM
GIVE MORRISON THE TITLE NOW!!!!!!! HOLY SHIT AT SPIDERMAN!!!

treyace
02-20-2011, 10:46 PM
holy shit

Corndad
02-20-2011, 10:46 PM
Holy shit Morrison

CSL
02-20-2011, 10:46 PM
Well that looked good didn't it

bigslimjj
02-20-2011, 10:46 PM
they stole that straight from tna yo.

RawRocks
02-20-2011, 10:47 PM
HOLY SHIT MORRISON

Captain Redneck
02-20-2011, 10:47 PM
Here comes Super Cena

Emperor Smeat
02-20-2011, 10:47 PM
Can someone please refresh my memory? There was a WM Match scheduled between Edge and Del Rio for the Championship. But then, Edge was put in a Championship match at EC. WHY? How did that happen?

Might have been related to Vickie trying to find ways of hurting Edge and making it easier for Ziggler to win the title. The plan backfired once Ziggler was "fired" on Smackdown.

Splaya
02-20-2011, 10:49 PM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

owenbrown
02-20-2011, 10:49 PM
I want Oakland to riot now when Cena wins

CSL
02-20-2011, 10:50 PM
Snapmare nearfall, first time for everything

Splaya
02-20-2011, 10:50 PM
With all his performances the past 3-6 months, Morrison's winning the World title by Summerslam

chieflikeanindian
02-20-2011, 10:51 PM
Damn stream went down can some one stream me plz

Gonzo
02-20-2011, 10:52 PM
Shit, forgot this was on. Did Lawler win?

Providence Peep
02-20-2011, 10:52 PM
OK, so Vicki made the EC match in an effort to get the belt off of Edge?

Captain Redneck
02-20-2011, 10:53 PM
Morrison is eliminated by punk

rated rjo
02-20-2011, 10:54 PM
Riot Oakland... Riot damn you!

Captain Redneck
02-20-2011, 10:54 PM
and Punk is eliminated by Cena....FUCK

treyace
02-20-2011, 10:54 PM
GODDAMNIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Londoner
02-20-2011, 10:54 PM
what a weak, fucking, ending.

ImpactPlayer365
02-20-2011, 10:54 PM
SuperCena overcomes yet again

Dorkchop
02-20-2011, 10:54 PM
WWE couldn't have given this this to Morrison? No one is surprised.

Corndad
02-20-2011, 10:55 PM
Well at least I got my points for Tipsters for that match. The rest not so much but at least that match.

owenbrown
02-20-2011, 10:55 PM
All 5 of them should have pulled a Bash at the Beach 2000 when they found out Cena was gonna win

CSL
02-20-2011, 10:55 PM
what a weak, fucking, ending.

Well that took about 4 seconds

Splaya
02-20-2011, 10:56 PM
GOD DAMN IT

DrCrawford
02-20-2011, 10:56 PM
wow fuck im not looking forward to WM at all

dronepool
02-20-2011, 10:57 PM
Good PPV, bad finish.

Testicle
02-20-2011, 10:57 PM
I hope the Undertaker match is intriguing because Del Rio/Edge and Miz/Cena probably aren't going to tear the house down.

Fignuts
02-20-2011, 10:58 PM
How was that a weak ending at all?

rob11
02-20-2011, 10:58 PM
The ending seemed rushed.

Emperor Smeat
02-20-2011, 10:59 PM
Meh, was hoping either for Morrison or Orton as the winner. Cena winning just means he's winning at Mania.

Morrison and Punk were the best during the match (Morrison for the moves, Punk for the expressions).

PPV was decent, a bit slow in the middle but Miz-King being much better than I would assume.

bigslimjj
02-20-2011, 10:59 PM
Morrison just made himself in that match. Fuck John "Fruity pebbles" cena.

jasean21
02-20-2011, 11:00 PM
LOL!!!! ARE YOU SERIOUS!!!! well I know this maybe taboo... now im seriously praying for sting!!!!1

Captain Redneck
02-20-2011, 11:01 PM
Good PPV, bad finish.


I agree....but it might set up nicely for the Rock to be ref/enforcer for Cena/Miz match....Why else would he have called them both out last Monday ?

Fignuts
02-20-2011, 11:01 PM
The IWC won't be happy until Cena is jobbing on superstars every week, I swear to god.

James Steele
02-20-2011, 11:02 PM
It wasn't a weak ending, it just lacked the drama of the last 10 minutes of the match so looked weak in comparison to the last couple of eliminations. Interesting to see where this all goes...

Providence Peep
02-20-2011, 11:03 PM
Initially, I was very disappointed that I could not afford to order this ppv. I really thought Lawler was winning the Championship and that I wouldn't be able to see it happen. Now that I know he hasn't (plus, now that I know Cena won the EC] I can honestly say that I don't feel like I missed much. I mean hell, how many times have we already seen Miz vs. Cena and now we'll be seeing it again for the billionth time at what is supposed to be the biggest show of the year??? Is that supposed to make us want to dish out $60 to order the ppv? Are we supposed to be excited about seeing a match that we've already seen countless times? :nono:

FearedSanctity
02-20-2011, 11:05 PM
Don't mind Cena winning, but when you go from 3 guys to someone winning in the space of 30 seconds....eh

MoFo
02-20-2011, 11:06 PM
The good thing about Cena winning is that it wasnt Orton winning.

James Steele
02-20-2011, 11:06 PM
Cena is now in his 7th consecutive WrestleMania World Title match (all 8 of his WM matches have been title matches, WMXX was opener for US Title vs Big Show). He has only lost ONCE in all those matches, and he didn't even take the fall in that one. Hell, Cena/Miz was a squash match at The Great American Bash a couple of years ago. I think Cena/Miz will be a good matchup, but its the same song and dance we have had for 7 years now. WrestleMania XXVII has some different matchups than you would expect for a WrestleMania, so the build up will be fun to watch since they can't just rely on starpower.

Supreme Olajuwon
02-20-2011, 11:06 PM
Crap, missed all of the PPV. Trying to find a stream, but haven't yet. Hope it was good.

CSL
02-20-2011, 11:06 PM
The IWC won't be happy until Cena is jobbing on superstars every week, I swear to god.

Pretty much. Eddie could have risen from the dead in the last 5 minutes but as long as Cena went over, it'd get shit on. CM Punk meanwhile could have won with a drop-toehold and it'd have been the greatest PPV main event of the year.

Cool King
02-20-2011, 11:07 PM
I'm not complaining but I've noticed that ever since Cena won his first WWE Championship at WrestleMania 21, he's been in every World Championship Match since.

Also, every single match Cena has had at WrestleMania, has been a championship match.

XX - United States Championship
21 - WWE Championship
22 - WWE Championship
23 - WWE Championship
XXIV - WWE Championship
XXV - World Heavyweight Championship
XXVI - WWE Championship
XXVII - WWE Championship

El Fangel
02-20-2011, 11:08 PM
Well fuck, I get back into Wrestling for all of 6 days before I am completely turned off it again.

Awesome WWE, Awesome.

rated rjo
02-20-2011, 11:08 PM
Now that we know Cena's winning at Mania, we can at least hope for the payoff of seeing the show end with him getting the title, celebrating, and then having his ass handed to him as the Rock lays the smackdown on that walking bowl of fruity pebbles with a Rock Bottom and People's Elbow.

If the WWE wants to sweeten the pot for me, include cutaways to Punk watching it all happen. I will willingly give Vince my money for that.

Providence Peep
02-20-2011, 11:08 PM
Crap, missed all of the PPV. Trying to find a stream, but haven't yet. Hope it was good.

Cena won. Lawler lost. Are you surprised?

Captain Redneck
02-20-2011, 11:08 PM
Initially, I was very disappointed that I could not afford to order this ppv. I really thought Lawler was winning the Championship and that I wouldn't be able to see it happen. Now that I know he hasn't (plus, now that I know Cena won the EC] I can honestly say that I don't feel like I missed much. I mean hell, how many times have we already seen Miz vs. Cena and now we'll be seeing it again for the billionth time at what is supposed to be the biggest show of the year???

I bought the ppv and I'm not disappointed. I didn't want Cena to win but other than that it was a good ppv. Morrison has really done some great work the last 2 ppv. If Vince doesn't give him a push after WM I'll be shocked.

Graveler
02-20-2011, 11:08 PM
Was the Kingston-Del Rio match any good? I couldn't find a decent stream until the end of the Smackdown EC match. Besides that, I thought this was a ok ppv. Sad that Lawler didn't win, but a better match than I expected.

Providence Peep
02-20-2011, 11:10 PM
I bought the ppv and I'm not disappointed. I didn't want Cena to win but other than that it was a good ppv. Morrison has really done some great work the last 2 ppv. If Vince doesn't give him a push after WM I'll be shocked.

Vince should have had Morrison win the match instead of Cena and go on to face The Miz at WM.

CSL
02-20-2011, 11:11 PM
Vince should have had Morrison win the match instead of Cena and go on to face The Miz at WM.

Because people would definitely pay to see that.

bigslimjj
02-20-2011, 11:12 PM
The IWC won't be happy until Cena is jobbing on superstars every week, I swear to god.Cena to FCW or we riot.

Evil Vito
02-20-2011, 11:12 PM
<font color=goldenrod>I don't really mind Cena winning, I expected it. A slight part of me hoped that he'd lose and Rocky would actually wrestle a match, but turns out he wasn't bullshitting about never working another match.

Personally speaking though, unless Taker/HHH Streak vs. Career goes through or Sting comes in, I can't see myself buying Mania. Cena/Miz and Del Rio/Edge should be good matches and everything but it doesn't exactly scream MUST SEE. Even Rock's involvement doesn't seem as big now since you know he'll be there to Rock Bottom and People's Elbow Miz and then hug Cena for the WM moment. Cool but not worth $50 to me.

We'll see. They've got like 5-6 weeks to build this thing up.</font>

Supreme Olajuwon
02-20-2011, 11:12 PM
With all the star power WWE has lost in the past year, you'd have to be a bit off your John Rocker to think Cena wasn't going to headline this Wrestlemania.

Swiss Ultimate
02-20-2011, 11:13 PM
Kids wouldn't...which is Cena's base.

CSL
02-20-2011, 11:14 PM
We could have avoided all of these 'problems' with a Kevin Nash 'Anecdote half-hour' as the WrestleMania main event, would have shattered all records as well as being better than all other Mania mains combined.

James Steele
02-20-2011, 11:14 PM
With all the star power WWE has lost in the past year, you'd have to be a bit off your John Rocker to think Cena wasn't going to headline this Wrestlemania.

Triple H will remedy this.

Shaved Monkey
02-20-2011, 11:14 PM
It wasn't a weak ending, it just lacked the drama of the last 10 minutes of the match so looked weak in comparison to the last couple of eliminations. Interesting to see where this all goes...

This is what I was going to say. The people I was watching with just kinda went ehhh at the ending because I guess they were expecting something more climactic and instead it was a relatively quick finish.

I don't get the impression that they were overly disappointed just had other expectations.

bigslimjj
02-20-2011, 11:15 PM
Is there going to be a MITB this year? If not I say Morrison vs. Bryan for the U.S. Title.

Providence Peep
02-20-2011, 11:16 PM
Because people would definitely pay to see that.

If Morrison had won tonight, and he and The Miz were put into another program with each other leading up to WM, and if it was booked correctly, then yes, people would have definitely paid money to see it. Cena could have easily faced someone else at Mania.

Captain Redneck
02-20-2011, 11:17 PM
Vince should have had Morrison win the match instead of Cena and go on to face The Miz at WM.


I agree that Miz/Morrison is gonna be a hell of a match but I also know that there is no way that Cena isn't gonna headline WM. I had hoped that maybe Rock/Cena would be WM main event.....I know I'm crazy for even thinking that but after Monday I was sure hoping it would come true.

bigslimjj
02-20-2011, 11:18 PM
If Morrison had won tonight, and he and The Miz were put into another program with each other, and if it was booked correctly, then yes, people would have definitely paid money to see it. Cena could have easily faced someone else at Mania.Yea like say...The Rock? Would have made more sense to me.They could drop morrison in a triple threat with Miz/Cena

Providence Peep
02-20-2011, 11:19 PM
I don't get the impression that they were overly disappointed just had other expectations.

But that's the problem. We keep looking forward to seeing matches that we haven't seen a million times, we keep looking forward to seeing mid-card guys be put into more main event matches, and our hopes and expectations continue to fail to be met.

CSL
02-20-2011, 11:21 PM
If Morrison had won tonight, and he and The Miz were put into another program with each other leading up to WM, and if it was booked correctly, then yes, people would have definitely paid money to see it. Cena could have easily faced someone else at Mania.

It doesn't matter how much you tart it up in 5-6 weeks, the majority of WWE's core audience is always going to shell out more for a Cena headlined Mania than a John Morrison version.

Supreme Olajuwon
02-20-2011, 11:22 PM
If Morrison had won tonight, and he and The Miz were put into another program with each other leading up to WM, and if it was booked correctly, then yes, people would have definitely paid money to see it. Cena could have easily faced someone else at Mania.

Just because you write the words doesn't mean they're true.

I am the King of Siam.
My penis is 75 inches long.
Juan is hilarious.

See? It's easy.

Shaved Monkey
02-20-2011, 11:22 PM
But that's the problem. We keep looking forward to seeing matches that we haven't seen a million times, we keep looking forward to seeing mid-card guys be put into more main event matches, and our hopes and expectations continue to fail to be met.

No it wasn't who won they had other expectations for. I mean they already knew Cena was winning. I guess they just expected some big Road Runner/Wile E. Coyote type thing to end the match as opposed to the quick finish.

CSL
02-20-2011, 11:23 PM
But that's the problem. We keep looking forward to seeing matches that we haven't seen a million times, we keep looking forward to seeing mid-card guys be put into more main event matches, and our hopes and expectations continue to fail to be met.

We=internet wrestling fans aka maybe 2% of WWE's entire audience.

Supreme Olajuwon
02-20-2011, 11:23 PM
I'm giving up on looking for a replay. Just as well because Cena won aAIWEHFIWFIWDNSKVDFPTRPVNF<MCPWEPW NWEF#$G^Y#IGNEKO#N@F

Fignuts
02-20-2011, 11:23 PM
Morrison isn't ready for a WM main event, no matter how many ninja flips he does.

Providence Peep
02-20-2011, 11:23 PM
there is no way that Cena isn't gonna headline WM.

Yeah but dude, it's Wrestling Fucking Mania. IMO, every single match should be a "headline" match. There should be no distinction between who will "headline" the card and who won't. Know what I mean? No, of course Morrison isn't the biggest superstar in the company and maybe he never will be. So Morrison vs. Miz didn't have to be the last match on the card. That spot could have been saved for Cena vs. whoever.

How many of you would have rather had seen Cena vs. Orton at WM rather than Cena vs. Miz? Yeah, I know we've seen both of those matches a million times, but if it were Cena/Orton, then it could be Miz/Morrison.

CSL
02-20-2011, 11:25 PM
what

Supreme Olajuwon
02-20-2011, 11:25 PM
Yeah but dude, it's Wrestling Fucking Mania. IMO, every single match should be a "headline" match. There should be no distinction between who will "headline" the card and who won't. Know what I mean?

What? No?

Supreme Olajuwon
02-20-2011, 11:25 PM
kinda jinx!

Supreme Olajuwon
02-20-2011, 11:25 PM
you owe me half a coke

CSL
02-20-2011, 11:27 PM
Holding a bottle of coke rn :|

Supreme Olajuwon
02-20-2011, 11:27 PM
found a stream! tits!

Lock Jaw
02-20-2011, 11:30 PM
Both chamber matches were the goods tonight... but... it all means nothing when you know who the winners are going to be beforehand. Which is why the EC should not be in between the Rumble and WM. If it was an event some other time, when you actually thought that some of these other guys in the match could win, it could be great.

FURTHERMORE:

I'M STILL MARKIN' OUT (BRO) at Christian's return!

Evil Vito
02-20-2011, 11:31 PM
<font color=goldenrod>I get what Peep is saying to an extent. Miz vs. Morrison in the WWE Title match could have definitely been done and the show would still get a fuckload of buys.

However, the reason for those buys would be because Cena would have to go in a match against either Rock or the Undertaker. Those are the only two guys "big" enough for Cena to face at Mania with no title on the line.

So yeah, Cena was headlining Mania title or no title.</font>

Providence Peep
02-20-2011, 11:35 PM
Here's what I would have liked to see happen at WM:

The Miz vs. John Morrison
Randy Orton vs. John Cena
Edge vs. Christian
Alberto Del Rio vs. Rey Mysterio
CM Punk vs. Daniel Bryan
Sting vs. The Undertaker

I know we've seen a couple of those matches already, but IMO that's still better than what we're getting.

Supreme Olajuwon
02-20-2011, 11:35 PM
I get what Peep is saying to an extent. Miz vs. Morrison in the WWE Title match could have definitely been done and the show would still get a fuckload of buys.

However, the reason for those buys would be because Cena would have to go in a match against either Rock or the Undertaker. Those are the only two guys "big" enough for Cena to face at Mania with no title on the line.

So yeah, Cena was headlining Mania title or no title.

And then people bitch that the world title is meaningless. WWE can't win either way.

Supreme Olajuwon
02-20-2011, 11:36 PM
Here's what I would have liked to see happen at WM:

The Miz vs. John Morrison
Randy Orton vs. John Cena
Edge vs. Christian
Alberto Del Rio vs. Rey Mysterio
CM Punk vs. Daniel Bryan
Sting vs. The Undertaker

I know we've seen a couple of those matches already, but IMO that's still better than what we're getting.

4 rehashed feuds are what you were hoping for? Good god, kid.

Providence Peep
02-20-2011, 11:37 PM
4 rehashed feuds are what you were hoping for? Good god, kid.

Why, Cena vs. Miz isn't rehashed?

XCaliber
02-20-2011, 11:38 PM
This almost entire PPV was utterly predictable but it managed to put out some quality matches and I can't help but notice that a few guys seem to be a lot more intense since The Rock showed up.

CSL
02-20-2011, 11:39 PM
Why, Cena vs. Miz isn't rehashed?

How is it exactly?

Evil Vito
02-20-2011, 11:39 PM
And then people bitch that the world title is meaningless. WWE can't win either way.

<font color=goldenrod>I never got that argument. The titles have been meaningless for years now.

Like I couldn't even get into a storyline revolving JUST around a title anymore. There needs to be personal animosity for me to care at this point. It's unfortunate that it's gotten to that point, but it is what it is.</font>

Skippord
02-20-2011, 11:39 PM
found a stream! tits!
link me, big fella

Fignuts
02-20-2011, 11:40 PM
Why the fuck would cena be facing orton, and why the fuck would cm punk go from feuding with the two top faces of the company, to daniel fucking bryan?

Supreme Olajuwon
02-20-2011, 11:40 PM
Why, Cena vs. Miz isn't rehashed?

That's the whole fucking point, you derelict. You bitch about getting the same old shit, then tell us you wanted EVEN MORE of the same old shit.

XCaliber
02-20-2011, 11:41 PM
Why, Cena vs. Miz isn't rehashed?

The result will be different though this time i'd go as far as saying that i'd even BANK on it. :D

Providence Peep
02-20-2011, 11:42 PM
That's the whole fucking point, you derelict. You bitch about getting the same old shit, then tell us you wanted EVEN MORE of the same old shit.

:lol: I'm drunk and tired

Supreme Olajuwon
02-20-2011, 11:42 PM
ugggggggggggggggh

Fignuts
02-20-2011, 11:42 PM
Cena and Miz had one match. Not a long drawn out program.

CSL
02-20-2011, 11:43 PM
I don't see how Miz/Cena is rehashed, they had a run-in for a couple of weeks with Miz getting himself over off the back of hounding Cena (which was pretty much the only objective) and 2 pretty quick matches. Then Miz eliminated him from the Rumble years later, leading to this.

Providence Peep
02-20-2011, 11:43 PM
Cena and Miz had one match. Not a long drawn out program.

Ok well for some reason I was thinking that they just had a program. But I can't be expected to think too clearly right now.

MoFo
02-20-2011, 11:45 PM
PPV was weaksauce, but who cares when you have STING on Raw tmz

CSL
02-20-2011, 11:47 PM
20,000th post up there somewhere.

wooo

James Steele
02-20-2011, 11:49 PM
Cena and Miz had one match. Not a long drawn out program.

Yeah, and Cena squashed him in 5 minutes a year and a half ago. Miz is in a completely different place right now, and Miz/Cena works well. My issue is that its been the same shit for 7 years. Hulk Hogan didn't even have this kind of run. I think the match will be your standard heel/face match with Cena "earning" The Rock's respect and a neat WrestleMania moment to close the show.

Skippord
02-20-2011, 11:51 PM
bet I can call one half of the Main Event of next year's Wrestlemania

James Steele
02-20-2011, 11:52 PM
bet I can call one half of the Main Event of next year's Wrestlemania

Aurora Levesque vs Undertaker

Supreme Olajuwon
02-20-2011, 11:53 PM
Hate that they don't announce provinces anymore for the Canadians. "From Toronto, Canada" sounds awful.

CSL
02-20-2011, 11:54 PM
Aurora Levesque vs Undertaker

Uh huh, Triple H is going to return with a 'maniacal astronomer' gimmick

Mr. Pierre
02-20-2011, 11:55 PM
Great show, I loved it. Thought the booking was pretty much perfect here.

-Kofi/Del Rio did it's job, and then some. An ideal opener to get the crowd going.

-SD Chamber was an awesome match. I was really disappointed to see Show be a replacement instead of Christian, but Christian's post-match return made much more sense (Triple threat at Mania I'm assuming?). This was the MOTN in my opinion though.

-Tag match was meh. Did it's job as a filler. I really couldn't care less about the Tag Titles, but I thought it was pretty cool how Corre got some gold.

-Looks like we may get Laycool vs. Kelly/Trish at Mania as our Divas match, which would be really fun.

-Miz/Lawler was another fun match. It's pretty amazing how good and smart Lawler still is. Him and Miz put on an entertaining match that far exceeded my expectations.

-RAW Chamber was another great one. I dunno why, I just liked the SD chamber a little better, but this one was RIGHT behind it. Punk made this match for me. They fooled me with the malfunctioned Chamber spot because I really thought it was a fuck up, so that was cool. Orton/Punk's feud really took leaps tonight and told a great story. Morrison was booked really well, and Cena won in not-so dominating fashion, which is a plus.

The "RTWM" PPVs have really done an excellent job in building this year's Mania. :y:

Skippord
02-20-2011, 11:55 PM
I'd watch it

Providence Peep
02-20-2011, 11:55 PM
Wait, didn't The Rock vs. Austin happen at three WrestleMania shows? 15, 17 and 19? So, why couldn't Cena vs. Orton have happened for a second time? Its been a year and a half since they feuded in 2009, and with the attention span that most fans in the WWE Universe have, they don't even remember that. I think if creative could have come up with a quality storyline between Orton and Cena, it could have definitely worked and have gotten more buys than Cena vs. Miz will. Throughout the eras of the WWE, there have always been main events worth the price of admission alone. John Cena vs. Randy Orton in today's era is one of them, just like Hogan vs. Andre or Austin vs. The Rock. Those all have a WrestleMania feel to them, more than Cena vs. The Miz.

XCaliber
02-20-2011, 11:55 PM
bet I can call one half of the Main Event of next year's Wrestlemania

Surely we all know it's gonna be Taker vs Cena by now. :roll:

GoneFishing
02-20-2011, 11:55 PM
Yeah, and Cena squashed him in 5 minutes a year and a half ago. Miz is in a completely different place right now, and Miz/Cena works well. My issue is that its been the same shit for 7 years. Hulk Hogan didn't even have this kind of run. I think the match will be your standard heel/face match with Cena "earning" The Rock's respect and a neat WrestleMania moment to close the show.

Wouldn't it be an awesome twist if Cena actually lost at Mania? But meh, I'm just living in dream town again.

Juan
02-20-2011, 11:56 PM
Wait, didn't The Rock vs. Austin happen at three WrestleMania shows? 15, 17 and 19? So, why couldn't Cena vs. Orton have happened for a second time?

Because Rock > Cena and Austin > Miz, pretty much.

CSL
02-20-2011, 11:58 PM
Wouldn't it be an awesome twist if Cena actually lost at Mania? But meh, I'm just living in dream town again.

It's not impossible depending on how serious they are about Miz or if it leads to a big swerve/turn/debut/event etc. Probably not though.

Supreme Olajuwon
02-20-2011, 11:58 PM
Wait, didn't The Rock vs. Austin happen at three WrestleMania shows? 15, 17 and 19? So, why couldn't Cena vs. Orton have happened for a second time? Its been a year and a half since they feuded in 2009, and with the attention span that most fans in the WWE Universe have, they don't even remember that. I think if creative could have come up with a quality storyline between Orton and Cena, it could have definitely worked and have gotten more buys than Cena vs. Miz will. Throughout the eras of the WWE, there have always been main events worth the price of admission alone. John Cena vs. Randy Orton in today's era is one of them, just like Hogan vs. Andre or Austin vs. The Rock. Those all have a WrestleMania feel to them, more than Cena vs. The Miz.

YOU'RE THE ONE ARGUING THAT REPETITION IS BAD YOU FUCKING RETARD

Mr. Pierre
02-21-2011, 12:06 AM
Also wanna mention how it was apparent tonight how ridiculously good WWE's camera work is. It seems like a little thing, but it really makes spots in multi-man matches seem "surprisingly" and "out of nowhere", and of course catching expressions is something they always do well. My favorite though had to be when Punk was selling the RKO on the outside and heard the reverse call, and he just scurries in the background to his chamber as Orton had his back turned and was complaining.

Providence Peep
02-21-2011, 12:10 AM
In an earlier post, I was complaining that I feel like we've seen Miz vs. Cena a million times and that it doesn't seem like a WM match. Then, you guys pointed out to me that Cena and Miz have not had a long feud with each other. I thought they did, at least it felt that way, and I thought it was recent, but I guess I was thinking of Miz/Orton. I was wrong and I was corrected. So fine.

All I'm saying now is that even though Cena and Orton have had several matches with each other, it seems like more of a WM match than Cena and Miz. It's been 1 1/2 years since Cena and Orton feuded, so I think they could have had another good WM match with each other if the storyline that lead up to it was well-written. Am I the only one here who feels that way? Would you guys not want to see Cena and Orton again? Does Cena vs. Miz really feel like a WM match to you guys?

bigslimjj
02-21-2011, 12:19 AM
Ok well for some reason I was thinking that they just had a program. But I can't be expected to think too clearly right now.SO no one remembers Miz 8 Ceno-0? he called him out then fought him on ppv,getting his Miz whipped.It started as some kind of weird side program. But the crowd liked the way miz trashed cena so they wrestled on some ppv a while back.

Lock Jaw
02-21-2011, 12:22 AM
Cena vs Miz will feel more like a WM match when I add The Rock as special referee.

XCaliber
02-21-2011, 12:26 AM
SO no one remembers Miz 8 Ceno-0? he called him out then fought him on ppv,getting his Miz whipped.It started as some kind of weird side program. But the crowd liked the way miz trashed cena so they wrestled on some ppv a while back.

I sure do it was the beginning of the Awesome One's rise as he proved to the entire world that he was no longer a push over and now it's all come full circle.

ThePhantom
02-21-2011, 12:32 AM
All in all a good PPV. If you actually thought Jerry Lawler was winning tonight, there is something wrong with you. The Miz, like him or not, is in the "mainstream" and can get WM hyped up.

The Smackdown chamber was excellent, and reading this board, not too much love for Rey Mysterio, however I think he stole the entire PPV. He took some awful looking spots and continued to bring it.

The Raw Chamber paled in comparison to the Smackdown Chamber. I seen people beaking Trish for botching, however, have failed to see any heat on CM Punk for botching his springboard move late in the match. Seems weird....
Cena winning was a no brainer, and was guaranteed when Orton was eliminated. I am not a big fan of John Morrison's (Spot Monkey) style. it isn't really that exciting for me.

Jerry Lawler throwing the Miz into Michael Cole was by far the best spot of the night. Booker T said something right after, and I lost my shit laughing. Can't recall what he said, but it was hilarious.

Monday should be interesting.

Poit
02-21-2011, 02:10 AM
This crowd doesn't deserve Christian or Trish.

I can't speak to how the crowd reacted to Christian's return because I WAS IN THE FUCKING BATHROOM. :mad:

As for Trish, my section was going crazy when she came out.

Also, when Vickie was talking to the crowd, what was she saying? There was so much booing, I couldn't understand her.

Also also, did anyone see my TPWW sign?

Mr. C
02-21-2011, 02:53 AM
I wasn’t too fond of the announcing tonight. It seemed empty without Jerry Lawler there. I really wish WWE would go to having Booker T, King, and JR as announcers. That would be fantastic. King throwing The Miz on Michael Cole was a highlight for me.

After listening to Booker and Josh Matthews for five minutes without Cole, it makes my head hurt wondering why Vince seems so insistant on having Cole do play-by-play for every show. He’s already commentating on the flagship show, so there’s absolutely no reason why Booker and Matthews couldn’t do SmackDown every week without Cole. It’s not like he makes matches on SmackDown any better. If anything, it would help give each brand its own identity with two different sets of announcers, just like it was before they decided to add Cole to every show.

Volare
02-21-2011, 05:15 AM
Three words from last nights PPV.

John Fucking Morrison. That is all.

JimmyMess
02-21-2011, 07:07 AM
I hate the supposed "character" that Michael Cole is playing. My number one reason? Its beyond stupid that the play-by-play guy is a heel. Because he will say things like "wow what a move by John Morrison" or whoever the face is.... or when two faces are against each other he just doesn't play the heel role, he just calls the play by play.

Thats why its retarded for a play-by-play guy to play a roll like this. YOUR JOB IS TO CALL THE MATCH, we don't give a FUCK what you think about it.

You never saw Jim Ross hate on the heels during the match unless they did something dirty. Plus he's a great voice.

I don't hate Cole in his character... he's just super annoying to the point where I want to mute the television.

bostonbill41
02-21-2011, 07:33 AM
I hate the supposed "character" that Michael Cole is playing. My number one reason? Its beyond stupid that the play-by-play guy is a heel. Because he will say things like "wow what a move by John Morrison" or whoever the face is.... or when two faces are against each other he just doesn't play the heel role, he just calls the play by play.

Thats why its retarded for a play-by-play guy to play a roll like this. YOUR JOB IS TO CALL THE MATCH, we don't give a FUCK what you think about it.

You never saw Jim Ross hate on the heels during the match unless they did something dirty. Plus he's a great voice.

I don't hate Cole in his character... he's just super annoying to the point where I want to mute the television.



As much as I like Cole I think its annoying when he starts in on Josh or whoever else he is with. I like that Cole isnt just a play-by-play guy but I think they have to be careful how they used Cole. It gets annoying really fast. There was no need for him to interrupt the Rock last week.

Mr. Nerfect
02-21-2011, 08:40 AM
Wouldn't it be an awesome twist if Cena actually lost at Mania? But meh, I'm just living in dream town again.

I don't think it's that out of the question, actually. The WWE obviously wants to build The Miz, and it's not like the loss would hurt Cena. Especially since The Rock is going to be involved in the match somehow. Now, while the WWE will probably have The Rock help out Cena in the end, passing on mutual respect to try and continue forcing face Cena down our throats (which is a good business move), it's also possible that The Rock will snap, hit Cena with a Rock Bottom and The Miz will capitalise, thus retaining the WWE Title.

Then you have Money in the Bank Winner, John Morrison, cash in right then and there, as Michael Cole whinges and bitches about exactly the same thing The Miz did to win the WWE Title. "Not this way!" would take on an entirely new relevance.

Reasons this could happen:

* The WWE is building up new stars, and crowning John Morrison the WWE Champion this way is pretty epic. Plus, Morrison and The Miz have plenty of history, and the irony of The Miz losing the WWE Title via MITB is delicious.

* Rock/Cena tension is going to get people interested in the product. No matter how many times The Rock says he is not wrestling again, people will want to see that dream match. Austin & Rock may have teamed up a couple of times, but people loved talking, no matter their age, about Rock vs. Austin. Cena & Rock could work, but Cena vs. Rock would just create more of a buzz.

* Morrison has been tearing it up since about Survivor Series. He's definitely stepped up his game, and was arguably the star performer of TLC, the Royal Rumble AND Elimination Chamber. Cena might sell the most merch now, and that is why he is getting the nod heading into WrestleMania (smart), but Morrison is certainly turning heads, proving himself to be a consistent commodity, and when he's out-shining guys like John Cena, Randy Orton and whoever else on PPVs, that makes a pretty strong argument to push the guy.

Mr. Nerfect
02-21-2011, 08:45 AM
And to protect The Rock's ultra-marketable face status, you can even have him serve as the "official" that counts Morrison's cash-in, which would be a huge thing for him. I mean, if anyone is going to be the referee of your first WWE Title win, it might as well be The Rock, right?

Skippord
02-21-2011, 09:16 AM
I was just thinking/hoping that exact situation you described will happen

bostonbill41
02-21-2011, 10:46 AM
Also wanna mention how it was apparent tonight how ridiculously good WWE's camera work is. It seems like a little thing, but it really makes spots in multi-man matches seem "surprisingly" and "out of nowhere", and of course catching expressions is something they always do well. My favorite though had to be when Punk was selling the RKO on the outside and heard the reverse call, and he just scurries in the background to his chamber as Orton had his back turned and was complaining.

Whoever the director is does an amazing job, he has a knack for "knowing" what shots to take and when. Id like to be a fly on the wall at these production meetings.

Hanso Amore
02-21-2011, 10:51 AM
Im calling it now. Miz Retains. They dont have both titles change anymore. Someone usually retains.

Del Rio is definitely going to win, When Christian turns heel and costs Edge the title at WM. This leads to a Christian vs Edge program, which explains why they are bringing him back (Comes back and is built back up as Edges friend but will turn on him).

The Miz will retain and the Rock will be involved in the match somehow.

XCaliber
02-21-2011, 12:04 PM
Wonder if it's still possible that they will could have Miz vs Edge again at WM27 to determine the Undisputed Champion the card still isn't that crammed up yet and they considered it a few months ago so it could happen.

The Naitch
02-21-2011, 01:00 PM
And to protect The Rock's ultra-marketable face status, you can even have him serve as the "official" that counts Morrison's cash-in, which would be a huge thing for him. I mean, if anyone is going to be the referee of your first WWE Title win, it might as well be The Rock, right?

wait what, since when did Morrison win MITB? :wtf:

loopydate
02-21-2011, 01:15 PM
My issue is that its been the same shit for 7 years. Hulk Hogan didn't even have this kind of run. I think the match will be your standard heel/face match with Cena "earning" The Rock's respect and a neat WrestleMania moment to close the show.

I get what you're trying to say, but Hogan at least co-main evented all but one of the first nine Manias. And an argument can be made that his tournament match against Andre at WMIV was the biggest pre-show draw of the show.

Brigstocke
02-21-2011, 03:22 PM
Anyone got a link to somewhere I can watch this PPV right now instead of waiting 2 hours for the fucking torrent to download.

Razzamajazz
02-21-2011, 03:51 PM
i was gonna say dailymotion but it was removed

Brigstocke
02-21-2011, 03:54 PM
Yeah, thats normally my first stop. Nevermind 17 parts on youtube.